The WSJ reports Kamala Harris Named as Joe Biden’s VP Pick
Joe Biden named Sen. Kamala Harris of California as his running mate, picking his former Democratic primary opponent to be the first Black woman and the first woman of Asian descent nominated for vice president by a major party.
Mr. Biden, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, described Ms. Harris as “one of the country’s finest public servants” in a tweet announcing his decision Tuesday.
“Back when Kamala was Attorney General, she worked closely with Beau,” he wrote, referring to his late son, Beau Biden, who worked with Ms. Harris while serving as Delaware’s attorney general. “I watched as they took on the big banks, lifted up working people, and protected women and kids from abuse. I was proud then, and I’m proud now to have her as my partner in this campaign.”
Nauseating But Predictable
This is as nauseating as it was predictable.
It will not help Biden beat Trump, but Trump is so far behind it likely does not matter.
I cannot support this ticket, nor can I support Trump.
In that regard, nothing really changed. No matter who Biden picked, I was not about to endorse him.
But Biden’s caving into the progressive wing of the party with a political opportunist like Harris is sickening to say the least.
Mish
his pick was totally racist. where was the best pick for a qualified black man? is he saying there wasn’t any other race that had a qualified person by stating he was going to pick a black woman . because of the color of her skin? and gender? we all are in trouble and so is he. Clinton’s and obama are going to knock him off.
bad choice and I stand in line with my brothers for my 2nd rights
I have been following Mish for about 15 years and I always give him some slack on those occasions when I don’t agree with him. This will be an exception. Predictable, maybe. Nauseating? Not even close. As noted by others here it wouldn’t make any difference who he selected, their flaws would be focused on first and this is especially true when it’s a woman, which we all knew it would be. Kamala wasn’t my first choice but in the end she’ll be fine. She’s smart and an ass kicker, which Joe needs since he seems incapable of actual fight. (And you may have noticed that Republicans fight dirty so maybe she can help there too.) Of course, she has warts, BFD! Who doesn’t in politics?! Opportunist? Yup, again BFD. She’s modestly progressive which, again Joe needs. Overall, as is usually the case, the VP is not going to win or lose an election – but this one is the democrats to lose (of which they are fully capable.) Love you, Mish, but rethink your position on this.
This is the woman who could not even win her own state. She has a lawyer’s mouth with not much else that I can see. Her ‘I rode the desegregation bus’ comment was mindless, irrelevant, and never questioned: she presented herself as the ‘poor little girl’ forced to ride the bus to a more prosperous neighborhood. However, at the time, her mom was a breast cancer scientist with a PhD in endocrinology and her father had a PhD in economics. Serious fraud and opportunist!
In addition, the US Constitution requires a President to be a natural-born citizen. For Obama, his mother was a US citizen at the time of his birth. For Harris, this is in question. It is possible that both parents were not US citizens at the time of her birth. They came to the US as graduate students–unlikely to get even permanent resident status, let alone citizenship until their studies were completed. Inquiring minds want to know the truth, the sooner the better! If you don’t care to find out, throw the Constitution in the trash.
The problem with this ticket is that it simply represents power on the part of the Dems; anything Biden or Harris says about uplifting or helping anybody is simply political calculation. In the end, they support their donors, the military industrial complex, the corrupt elites, and have no real program. Biden supported big finance and credit card companies in Delaware. He has been on the wrong side of all the major mistakes of the past. He helped to dismantling one of the only things that America always had over other countries: the possibility of bankruptcy and getting out from under your debts and starting over again (inscribed in the text of the liberty bell). Virtually all countries tie debtors to their fate perpetually.
Harris has proved above all to want to climb upward, and has no qualms about the means to get higher up.
Both are empty vessels chosen by Dem apparatchiks as least likely to lose them the elections.
I banned Montana33 for saying this “Mish would not call a white, male Senator with the exact same resume as Kamala an opportunist. He is biased against women and/or women of color and he probably has no idea.”
In addition, I removed every comment he ever made (in progress – It may take a while but is automatic). I will not tolerate such accusations.
For the record, I praised Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms
Good Riddance to Montana33 – I give a lot of leeway, not that.
WHERE IS THE GROWTH TODAY!
UNDERGROUND! AS THE PEOPLE SAY THEY LET MURDERS GO AND THEY KILL AGAIN PLUS THE POLICE ARE BEING HAMPERED AND SHUT DOWN SO WHO CARES.
JUST LIKE THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT THE MARK OF THE BEAST SOME WILL BE TOTALLY UNDER THE MARK, SOME WILL GO BOTH WAYS, AND THE REST THE DOWNTRODDEN WILL BE HORSETRADING TO SURVIVE!
LET FREEDOM RING!
I didn’t hear ol’ Biden or Kamala say anything in regards to rioters, endangering police and others, their destruction, looting, Antifa, etc. A vote for them is a vote for chaos. You fools will want to run farther than Utah, Idaho or Montana if they get in. Their silence and support of this uprising is the best thing to happen to Trump! A lot of undecided will vote for Trump after this fiasco.
“No matter who Biden picked, I was not about to endorse him. “
Mish, with all due respect, if you are indifferent to whom Biden chose, why do you label this choice nauseating?
I suspect Mish is a good judge of character and has spent time looking at the record. There is a reason why she received ZERO (0) delegates in the primaries. she is an unpopular nasty progressive, who is now being rammed down the voters’ throats.
So the Democratic ticket consists of a addled sick old man and a full blown California communist. Does anyone really believe that is what the independents are going to vote for?
To all those saying I will not vote, that in and of itself is a vote for whoever wins so whoever we get it will be directly related to you. You don’t get to claim “Well I did not vote for them so its not my fault” it will be your fault whoever wins plain and simple.
Slight quibble: as a principled non-voter, I deny any responsibility for the outcome whatsoever. However, I do accept the result and agree to abide by the dictates of my voting neighbors.
Also, not voting in a safe state like California is not nearly as consequential as not voting in a swing state like Texas or Georgia or Iowa lol.
Kamalah Harris is not progressive. Reports claiming she is are just Republican smear for 2020. What is true is Biden sought progressive support going into 2020 so his campaign and Sanders campaign came up with a common platform so there was a move to the left but it has nothing to do with VP choice. Grain of salt however recommended as the most far left positions were turned down.
IDK. Newsweek said she had the most liberal voting record in the Senate in 2019, and was the least likely of any Democrat in the Senate to join a Bipartisan bill.
And I very much look forward to Trump being indicted.
I look forward to President Harris.
I’m not a fan of either Biden nor Harris. My choice would have been Klobuchar as candidate for POTUS. But it is what it is – in an imperfect democracy imperfect people have chosen this Dem ticket. Now the only question is: who will do less damage to the country – and the world? That’s your rational vote. Anyone who insists on their dream ticket and doesn’t vote or votes for a 3rd party will make it more likely that the madman in the WH continues his work of destruction. Irrational votes for Jill Stein where one of the reasons Trump won key swing states in 2016.
Making my drink analogy a bit simpler to understand:
You’re dying of thirst, someone offers you 1/2 full glass of water. Not voting, or voting for a pie in the sky 3rd party candidate equals rejecting that half glass, because you insist you deserve a full one.
That’s not a rational decision, though.
I think there is a side of Kamala Harris that would fit right in with the GOP as Mr. Purple notes above.
I should add that I understand that there is no party for people like you. The Republican Party has morphed into a tribe driven by fear and misinformation with zero interest in conservative policies that people like you valued. Trump has ended the party. A person who did believe in historical Republican values cannot support the Democratic Party any more than they can Support the thing that the “Republicans” have become. People like you need a third party and there are a lot of people like you. Republicans are now the party of grievance for white men with no college education. That is their core demographic – their true base and that is not you. You are in a very tough spot. You could try to fight to get it back but I don’t see any viable strategy coming from you here. The Lincoln project is trying to engineer a wipeout of Trump so they can then reform the party back to what it was. They can only reclaim it if Trump get slaughtered. If it’s close – then they lose their party forever and they’ll have to join the Democrats and try to move us more toward center right. I never liked the Republican Party because it’s always been anti-woman and pro white, but the old guard weren’t trying to destroy the country and Democracy. I long for the days when my complaints about Republicans were more policy driven and not driven by their overt racism, hatred and conspiracy theories.
” Republicans are now the party of grievance for white men with no college education. That is their core demographic – their true base and that is not you.”
That sounds pretty much like overt racism and hatred!
You sound poor.
And white.
I concur 100%. Just as the Republican Party no longer exists, having sold its soul to the Trump Cult, there is no place within the Democratic Party for progressive socialists.
True Republicans are now more closely aligned with Democrats than the Cult.
Progressive socialists have no party at all.
The Sanders wing thought it would be more expedient to try to co-opt the Democratic Party than to abandon it and start a third party. They were wrong!
We could see a sea change in party organization between 2020 and 2024. Or this might be the swan song of “extremist” politics in America and they’ll all fall in line behind the NWO.
That sounds elitist, you should have said deplorable.
have you seen the lily white repub political rallies?
“If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black”
I see several ways it can go from here. I agree that the Republican Party is dead, at the National level, though it has much strength at the local level, in some parts of the country:
Mish,
Please watch any Jimmy Dore video about Kamala:
The Democrat party is controlled opposition. And the job of their press is to make actual left-wingers look bad. They’d rather lose the general election than run a clean primary and nominate an anti-war anti-oligarchy candidate.
In a two party system you will endorse the winner by not casting a vote for the loser. So there’s your ticket Mish. I hope you like the result.
I will not vote at all. Biden is too old and will likely die in office. He only picked a (incompetent) black woman for “affirmative action” and to get the blacks to vote for him. If they had gone to the polls for Hillary, like they did for Obama, Trump would not be president. Biden should have picked Chang or Buttigieg.
Not that it matters, but when you called Andrew Yang “Chang” I think you meant to write “Ching Chong.”
Harris is not progressive. A lot of people on the left are upset by this choice. So far it seemed as though Biden would easily beat Trump, but with this choice I suspect a lot of Millenials will just not bother voting, and Trump will have a better chance in swing states.
She was rated as more liberal than Sanders or Elizabeth Warren in 2019:
https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-more-liberal-bernie-sanders-senate-record-analysis-shows-1524481
I am a libertarian – I would not have endorsed Biden no matter who his running mate. Nor can I vote for Trump.
I did not predict Harris. I did not predict anyone. But she was the odds-on favorite from start to finish. I said who I liked. Klobuchar.
Harris was a nauseating pick. Period. I would have said the same about Warren but it has nothing to do with either of them being a woman. I can’t stand their politics.
Klobuchar would not have been nauseating – nor would the Atlanta Mayor. The latter if only because I do not know enough about her.
That Harris is nauseating does not imply Trump isn’t. But Trump had no pick to make, nauseating or otherwise.
I will post all kinds of reasons in a follow-up post.
Thanks for this Mish – look forward to your add’l follow-up.
It would seem that libertarianism on its own has some significant weaknesses? Can it be construed as a cop-out ideology? Does it appeal to and exacerbate people’s fears and undermine a cohesive society?
Libertarians tend to agree with Democrats half the time (on social issues) and with Republicans half the time (on economic issues). As such, it is always difficult to endorse either. In this election it is particularly difficult, because Biden/Harris are more in favor of Social restriction than normal, and Trump is certainly not in favor of smaller, less expensive government.
“…the liberalism that Biden represents”
Really? The Patriot Act supporter, 1994 crime bill supporter?
He was an aggressive supporter of the war on drugs, and civil asset forfeiture
Joe Biden does not represent liberalism on civil rights, which is what Libertarians care about. He is not about to lead criminal justice reform.
Welcome to the new world of woke-ism, say something negative about a person of color, you’re racist, say something negative about a woman, you’re sexist.
You neglect one important thing that Harris does bring to the ticket. Trump gambled that by taunting BLM protesters, he could get them to riot, and that if they rioted, he could be the “law and order” President, and gain popularity. It worked, sort of. Riot they did, and it is costing Democrats some support. Yet, Biden has a track record of being tough on crime, and Harris was a DA. That negates Trump’s position as the “law and order” guy, and eliminates it as an issue, and the rioting ends up turning into local issues for Minnesota, Washington, Illinois, and Oregon to deal with.
I disagree that Trump “has no choice to make”. I think he does. I think he should let Pence move on to future endeavors, and select a more vibrant person for his VP, perhaps Nikki Haley. In my option, the odds are against either Trump or Biden surviving to 2024, so this will be a comparison between Harris and whoever Trump chooses.
Good call, Nikki Haley is not nauseating, nor made of cardboard like Pence.
I’m not disputing that picking Harris is nauseating, I would just like to know what qualifies her as progressive.
https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-more-liberal-bernie-sanders-senate-record-analysis-shows-1524481
“… as being more liberal than Democratic Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders.”
Well, this is embarrassing. Sanders is an Independent, not a Democrat. A journalistic mistake that glaring in the first sentence of the article doesn’t inspire me to read on, but I’ll give it a read.
Ok I finished it and … it’s utter crap that proves nothing. I’ll go by her record as a prosecutor and attorney general.
I suppose she could have voted on the liberal side consistently because it was primary season, but having a 100% record in measure is unusual.
That’s not a scientific article Carl. I’m open-minded, but I need to see real substance.
Many people rank Congressmen and Senators based on their voting record. They simply pick the votes that they think are critical to the issue they are looking at, and then rank them according to those votes. I certainly am not claiming that this is the only ranking, nor the best one. It’s just one of many. Here’s another one, from the American Conservative Union:
The ranked 0 in 2019, and has a lifetime rating of 3.02/100.
There are a handful of others lower than her, but she certainly is among the more “Progressive” on their rating as well.
They have medicine for nausea. I doubt a VP pick could seriously be so nauseating to you.
From Willie Brown’s bed to the White House is a journey I simply cannot stomach. Is that what this nation has come to? Really?
You must have been living under a rock with no communications. Donald Trump is President.
What awful people the Dems have chosen. And I’ve never been a nose-holding voter, but I’m considering it this year … almost compelled to believe there’s a moral duty to be part of a popular landslide against Trump’s chaos and recklessness.
Anyone voting for Trump will have to hold their nose more in 2020 then in 2016.
It is a moral duty. That moron is literally destroying our country.
I don’t like Trump but I am going to go with Gundlach
I don’t like Trump much, and neither Biden, KH even less. Like Gundlach all I’m interested in is to get as close as possible to an accurate estimate of who might win. Like Gundlach in 2016 I too predicted Trump would win. This time, I disagree with Gundlach. The signs are that Trump has destroyed too many bridges with some of his 2016 fringe supporters and not built enough new ones to make up for it. I reckon Trump will lose this time.
Mish this election is really about competence. Read Michael Lewis’ book thr Fifth Risk to understand why Trump has failed. The main job of a president is to manage risk and Trump has failed the country and the world. He simply doesnt think anything needs to be managed. This is what you get when you get a real estate magnate (glorified salesman) as President.
Mish in Utah your vote does not matter just as mine doesn’t in California. Harris will bring out suburban voters once they get to know her in the South. And that is where Trump will unexpectedly get grinded to a pulp. Suburbs of cities like Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, Atlanta, Denver are increaingly becoming places where Republicans are in trouble. Biden is taking a different strategy with this election. The places where Trump won like the Detroit suburbs are where he is in deep trouble already. If the turnout is higher because of Harris this will seal Trump’s fate. Harris will not only attract the black vote but also the Asian-American vote. Trump has been so anti race and white supremacist that he wont have the advantages he did in 2016.
I don’t think any one person’s vote really matters much in any particular state. By way of his blog, Mish’s opinions do have considerable influence however. That is why his statement that he would not vote for the BH ticket is concerning, and deserves better explanation than just “nauseating”.
Votes matter in swing states. 500 votes mattered in Florida in 2000.
This is the right Jo
Indeed. Biden will beat Trump anyway, so voting Dem or Rep is 100% wasting your vote completely. Nice opportunity to get 3rd party in the picture.
Trump is still way more nauseating.
Mish you are showing your spots here. How come a word like nauseating is only used for a woman ? Trump is a nasty parasite. Notice I didnt say human or being. You actually have to have some consciousness for that.
How can you possibly extrapolate this single data point to infer Mish is sexist?
Simple. He has used the word nauseating to describe her. He has never used this word to describe any male despite there being many nauseating males in politics and business.
True but he’s also never used it before to describe other women. You need more than a single data point to back a statement like this. Your screen name certainly fits your lack of thought and research on this topic.
Picking Harris was Biden’s payback to Jim Clyburn for resurrecting his campaign from the dead. She will likely become president when Biden is forced to bow out due to mental issues before his term is up. That’s the plan Sam.
59% Think Biden Unlikely to Finish A Four-Year Term in White House
Monday, August 10, 2020
He will last longer than Trump. Trump will be impeached even if he sniffs the White House lawn in January. He belongs in the junkyard like the dog he is.
Signed,
2016 Trump Voter
Huh?
The Senate is up for grabs and increasingly bad news for the GOP.
reagan “served” his entire second term
Harris is neither a progressive, nor the best VP pick as far as the electorate is concerned. However Kamala Harris and Beau Biden were close friends, and so Joe Biden feels that he can trust her the most out of all the candidates.
From an electorate standpoint – Kamala Harris will certainly help with African American and other ethnic group votes, but does not do much with other constituencies.
Here in CA I’m not too happy with Kamala, seems like a career opportunist without a very solid track record of working policies and getting things done the right way.
Mish – would be great if you stated why you don’t like Harris other than just stating she is “nauseating”, which is not meaningful. Please follow this up with some more substantive thinking.
Biden/Harris have laid out much more reasoned and thoughtful policies for our country (https://joebiden.com/) than Trump/Pence has laid out or demonstrated over the past 4 years, and they are well suited to build and lead a moderate coalition that can work to heal the divisions that have been greatly exacerbated both domestically and internationally. I also trust them as individuals to do what is in the best interest of the country, whereas I have no trust in our current President in this regard.
There’s no question that almost anyone would be better than Trump/Pence going forward. But Biden/Harris unfortunately are the “B” or perhaps “C” team. Dems could have picked better.
I think that depends on ones point of view….Mish doesn’t seem willing to acknowledge they would be better…. Politics is about compromise. I think Biden and Kamala are well suited to building a team that will bring the country together, which is what is needed. We should look for and encourage common ground. If they fail to do this after 4 years, then vote them out. But for now, we are all better off supporting this goal, and not calling others “nauseating”….
“Bring the country together” around continued theft from the productive for the benefit of the connected, is in no way at all “what is needed.”
What is needed is complete repudiation of all, or as much as possible, of absolutely every single political and economic development since before the founding of The Fed. And especially of absolutely everything since 1971, when debasement theft driven financialization really became the only thing America is about.
You’re simply not going to bring those who have benefited, and continues to be benefiting to an ever accelerating degree, from that, together with those their entire lives depend on robbing.
The solution to the crime of burglary, is never to bring the burglars and their victims for a Kumbaya and hold hands session, while doing nothing about the burglarizing itself.
While I suspect I agree with you with respect to problems and solutions much more than you might think, the way to get there has to start with building trust as opposed to advocating extreme approaches like complete repudiation. Biden and Harris are not fools, they fully appreciate the political dynamic and concerns with liberalism’s track record, and I do expect to see real change. However if they do not receive a sufficient mandate, this will be much more difficult to achieve.
Lend an inch and give a mile ?
Problem is, you cannot possibly build trust by robbing someone. And the entirety of what is attempted (successfully it seems, unfortunately) as “The System”, is 100% exactly that.
Chamberlain tried the “build trust” with Germany approach. Didn’t work then, won’t work now.
Since The Fed’s founding, 95+ percent of all dollars currently in existence have been printed out of thin air and handed out not on the basis of who did the work to earn them, but instead simply to The Fed’s favored welfare queens.
If it was 5%, or 10%, then maybe some slight adjustments and getting along may have been viable. But when 95%, and increasing in an accelerating fashion, of all wealth have been stolen, darned near anything owned by anyone is fundamentally stolen goods. And every single facet of “The System” is build around nothing more than perpetuating and accelerating this. Since noone in any position of wealth and power hence influence, owes near any of their privileges to anything aside from this theft, no “building trust” will ever amount to anything aside from yet another attempted con-job to placate those being robbed for another few years. But by all means, if 95+% of those in all and every FIRE racket wants to hand over 95+% of what they own and will ever earn to productive people, as a trust building exercise; maybe that just may work. I’m not holding my breath, though.
Mish is going back to voting L after ticking the box for Trump in the last election. I think he learned his lesson.
Exactly – it is silly to hold ones breath waiting for something that won’t happen regardless of whether you believe what you are saying is true or not.
Personally I think the majority of US GDP results from American’s hard work and creativity our historically favorable political climate. Needed improvements to the fairness of the system are best made by working from within our democratic system. I believe these are values that Kamala agrees with.
‘I cannot support this ticket’ – I expected better from you Mish.
As a North European living in the US for the past 20 years, the general lack of political maturity here never ceases to astound me. We don’t get the parents we want, nor the kids, nor partner – and we sure as hell will never get the ticket we want. Politics (in case you haven’t noticed) never offers anyone their ‘perfect ticket’. Rather it allows us to pick the lesser evil. Let me explain with a metaphor: If you’re dying of thirst and someone offer you a glass of milk – even if you normally hate the stuff, will you say ‘no thanks’, or will you drink it? I hope you’re rational enough to choose the latter.
Then why, after (correctly) vilifying Trump every day, can’t you as an intelligent and well informed citizen endorse Biden?
I’m really curious.
To paint this blue team ticket as a mere “lesser evil” is disingenuous. They’re terrible in every way that matters, their support of the Fed, the MIC, prisons, etc. Their platform (do they even have one?) seems to be to pretend the last four years didn’t exist so we can go back to the 2016 status quo, a time when the world had already gone off the rails but it wasn’t quite as obvious to many.
Things are going badly enough that it’s fair to question how long this can continue, with skyrocketing debt and regular people absolutely hating each other.
I think 2020 could be the last successful election we have, meaning that the populace generally accepts the results. It’s going to be ugly in November no matter who wins, but after a few more years of this acrimony all bets are off.
Politics “allows us to pick the lesser evil” and we should be mature about it ?
Allows means permits, but if you have no good choice then that means forces, not allows. Why would anyone want someone else’s permission to “pick an evil” , that sounds irresponsible not mature.
It all does not sound very rational to me.
And why is there no water ? The governments spend 50% of gdp and all they can come up with is milk and cake. Did they nationalise the water maybe, because it was a free and nescessary resource, because it might give people ideas like “Why are we having to vote for evil to avoid evil, when the water is free and pure ?” .
No wonder so many people were clamoring to leave the old continent back in the days. Drinking milk is evil? Drinking milk does not hurt anyone, unless you are lactose intolerant.
A more apt comparison is do you pick someone who will hurt the other side knowing that later on they’ll come to hurt you as well in the end?
Evil is evil. There is no lesser evil.
GTFO.
I don’t need milk or water. I’m going to brew my own BEER and vote libertarian
Picking between the King of England and The King of France, or between Hitler and Stalin, is not “political maturity.” It’s just being a bent over butt wipe.
Shelling the living crap out of all of them, and all and everyone even remotely like them, until none of them have any choice but to get the heck out of your face and stay there, is.
Biden Harris is a perfectly normal ticket.
I think Mish just needs to appeal / not alienate a wider range of audiences reading his site, so he won’t endorse Biden / Harris
I thought dems liked aliens though… could you make us illegal so we can fit in ?
As a Southern European living in the U.S. for over 20 years I find the claims of the United States’ socio-political immaturity to be grossly overstated and to be quite frank a rather typical example of what I’ve noticed as an arrogant undercurrent in Northern European attitudes towards others. Every country has it’s own cultural, social and political identity – one’s view of the maturity of another nation is generally seen through the filter of their own bias, not really an objective standard of conduct in those areas. Like every nation, the U.S. has problems that need to be solved. Part of the reason we can never seem to solve those problems is precisely because of the ‘very proper and logical’ idea that we seem to be doomed to pick the lesser of two evils in every election. This has nothing to do with the ‘maturity’ of the ‘poor uneducated slobs’ that ‘enlightened Europeans’ (and largely liberal American Europhiles) perceive a large number of Americans to be. It does have everything to do with a continuous stream of propaganda that reinforces the idea that a binary choice is the only option. Propaganda that makes the most out of emotional push button issues while obfuscating the fact that there is little actual difference between the two. Whatever you may think of Trump, his election was at least in part a cry from the disaffected masses that are tired of this status quo.
For those who feel that Harris was “predicted” or “predictable”, please check for when you predicted her. And dismissed the others.
If you can’t find your prediction, consider that other parts of your thinking may be as muddled.
On Monday, predicting the game score is easy. Predictable, really.
Dunno when I predicted her on here, but I always though she had the best shot. She’s a perfect establishment candidate, a black woman who’s happy to get rough with minorities and do so under the blue team banner. She’s also eager to look the other way on financial crime like she did with Mnuchin’s OneWest fiasco.
thats a great point, she let them off easy and took a short walk to the state senate with virtually no opposition like 18 months later. I believe 28 of her people wanted to investigate/prosecute.
“She’s also eager to look the other way on financial crime like she did with Mnuchin’s OneWest fiasco.”
That goes for all of them. Were it not for “financial crime”, none of the neither currently wealthy in New York, nor powerful in in DC, would have nor control anything.
I didn’t predict Harris but the polls and the reporting did, especially after Klobuchar pulled out.
“There is hope, but not for us.”
Franz Kafka
Biden chickened out choosing Harris,..period.
My choice was Klobuchar,..then possibly Warren or Sanders if he really wanted to shake things up.
With Biden we’re getting the same ole same ole.
Boring and predictable.
Lets not forget Biden was the asshole that gave us the Patriot Act in form and substance,..granted it was eventually adopted by the Repub’s,..but this IS the man who initiated taking away our rights.
https://ritholtz.com/2011/12/the-core-of-the-patriot-act-was-drafted-in-1995-…-by-joe-biden/
I now expect Trump to win. It will be a repeat of 2016.
I don’t really care either way, but that’s a bold prediction! If Trump wins from here it will be an even bigger upset than 2016!
Pelosi, Newsom and Harris.. the bay area trifecta!!
Everything is gonna be just great now.
Now if only they can do something for California Pizza Kitchen. I miss their Kung Pao Spaghetti.
I remember many, many years ago I took my friends kids swimming for the day at the river and after we went into one of their places thinking it was a regular pizza place lol! the looks we got!!
Kamala is probably the worst human being of any of these VP candidates, but as others have said this was entirely predictable.
There is a lot of dark humor in this presidential race. Just like Trump plays rural Americans for fools, Harris loves bringing the hammer down on poor black people in particular. Both she and Biden are “law and order” types who always want to imprison more people.
As much as I want to rail on about elite corruption, regular Americans have to show they no longer have the stomach to be used as punching bags. If they refuse to stand up for themselves, they deserve everything they get!
Throw muppets to the wall. I’ve said again and again. Grind them to dust.
Not to mention that a few weeks ago she still accused Biden of being a racist and a sexual predator – she has yet to explain when and why she changed her mind.
because she wasn’t in either lane.
What also did Harris in was she’s a bit of a grand-stander and engages in publicity stunts like at the Kavanagh hearing
I’ll say it again. You’re going to get Biden or Trump. You say you’re ambivalent but the choices are so different I find hard to believe. I think you’re taking the George Carlin approach.
No matter how “different” two turds floating down a sewer pipe may be, ……….
Exactly! There is a zero percent chance I will vote D or R for President. Hopefully voting for a third party will encourage more to run.
I really don’t see what will make anyone enthusiastic about voting in this election. Are there really people who feel like one of these candidates is going to dramatically improve things?!
“…who feel like one of these candidates is going to dramatically improve things?!”
No.
But unfortunately I do feel that one of the candidates will produce a dramatic decline in many things.
Not my first or second pick for VP who was Klobuchar and then Rice respectively but anything is better than Trump. I’d support a smelly tuna fish sandwich over Donald Trump.
It’s not that I don’t like Harris I don’t see how she adds to the electoral map or will work well with Biden or has the experience once in office Klobuchar did the former, Rice the latter. Klobuchar will bring energy to the campaign trail and should match up very well against Pence. She’s not a governor so lacks the executive experience and doesn’t have the deep foreign policy experience either. I see Harris as sort of doubling down on a base. Biden has the black vote just like Trump has the under-educated white vote.
But let’s be honest a Biden Harris ticket is better than a Trump Pence. Other than being a sycophant and strong with evangelicals Pence doesn’t bring anything to Trump’s ticket.
It was a math problem, Harris brings in the black vote, the woman vote, the Asian vote, the millenial socialist vote, the law and order cred vote, the California vote as if that were needed, but I will tell you this, she loses the Markus vote. And veterans will likely go about 90% for Trump rather than their usual 70 something. That woman HATES soldiers. Veterans are less than nothing to her.
She actually loses the millennial socialist vote. But the Dems are trading them for a small slice of law-and-order Trump-leaning independents.
This is a sensible short-term strategy and a very risky long-term strategy. But in the long term we’re all dead.
Now, with no change in meaning or substance, reword it to, “Like our hero, FDR, Trump has the working man’s vote.”
Biden interacted with Rice on an almost daily basis. Maybe Harris is better for him on the campaign trail. Interestingly enough Harris failed in the primaries so I share the confusion on why she’s so great now.
It’s the personal connection with Harris that’s not there with Rice.
Harris is vetted on the national level recently. Finally I think Biden needs an attack dog, and Harris being an eloquent prosecutor is a perfect choice.
So far the most effective attacks levied against Trump have been by the Lincoln project.
Mish if you remember I said she was the one person on his list he could pick that would mean for the first time since I was 18 in 1976 I just would not vote. I will take a look at local candidates, and state propositions in case there is some I want to suport or oppose, but I see the odds of Biden making it to 01/20/2025 as just not good enough, so his VP choice was very important to me, critical in fact.
For me, she was strongly in favor of a Universal Basic Income, and surprisingly as a financial graduate, I do not necessarily oppose a UBI. I see it as a continuous devlauation such that the more cash/assets valued in dollars you have, the more you lose. And SOMETHING must be done about wealth inequality.
But Harris’s proposed UBI was not U(niversal). It was not even a basic income. I was instead a wage support for the low income which deliberately and specifically discriminated against disabled veterans such as myself. Their (Yang shared her plan and also cut out disabled) plan called for an amount that is substantially higher than SSI but only for working people (and some question whether or not students would be entitled to it) with the explanation that the disabled are already getting money/income from the government. That explains NOTHING. They want to give it to working people already getting money from employers but disabled vets nope.
Her plan was in fact a wage support for working people that phased out at $50,000 so that if you are making minimum wage you will get the full amount, only at about $33k do your benefits start to drop until you reach $50k (single person) where you would get nothing.
For me the problem is that there is going to be advancing inflation that goes with any UBI, that is WHY it can only be supported if it is in fact UNIVERSAL. It would create a huge super underclass that would be even more desperately poor than homeless people are now. I would have to deal with inflation even as my pay declines. I am already anything but middle class. Her proposal would send me instantly into maybe not poverty, but serious low income status. I would be taking home less than the famous burger flippers.
Just not going to vote for someone that targets me and my fellow disabled vets for degrading humiliating lowering to untouchable status. By the way have you ever heard her mention veterans? She has many affiliations with people that that refer to us as babykillers. And politically she sees stats that say vets vote GOP at almost 80%. So we are not a demographic she will ever court.
There’s a lot of sense in your comment Herkie. But if you believe for one minute that any politician, Republican or Democrat cares about meaningful change for veterans or views them as anything but a disposable resource, you’re deluding yourself.
Yes Mr. P but there is the salt in the wound effect to consider. Sure we will be shat upon by whoever wins, but when they start rubbing that salt into the thousand cuts it matters how many pounds of salt they have up their sleeves. Harris hates veterans. Or maybe the better word is we do not even register as a thing with her, I never once heard her utter the word even when the subject came up. She and the black community complain about mistreatment and also being invisible at best? That is her with us, I am sure on some intellectual level she knows that we exist out there, but money spent on us would be better spent on minority reparations.
“But Harris’s proposed UBI was not U(niversal)”
Politicians in unlimited-government “systems” are never in favor of anything Universal.
Their entire game, revolves around setting some groups up against others. Giving more to those groups who vote for them, than to those who vote for their opponents.
Universal anything, flies directly in the face of all that. Meaning, it flies directly in the face of politics itself.
True Universals, are the domain of Statesmen, not mere self promoting politicians.
The US founders were no saints, but “All Men Created Equal”, noone more empowered to print/pan for money than anyone else , everyone, including the Presidential security detail, shops for guns at the same store etc., exist on a whole ‘nother plane than the trashy favor peddling and “but some people are more Universal” nonsense peddled by the likes of Harris.
A truly universal UBI, pegged at a percentage of already collected revenue, replacing every other handout, is the only universal, hence legitimate, way for government to hand out anything to anyone. Anything else, is just a lightly obfuscated recipe for setting some people up against others, so that politicians can live large off of fanning the flames of the resulting polarization.
But Stuki, in this case, meaning the income gap and rapacious taking of all new wealth by the top 10% since prior to the year 2000, if they do not do something today (or years ago made retroactive), or jubilee, or another plan, this nation will fail.
Or better way to put it is we are already in that failure gravity well (think black hole) and it is going to take extreme measures to blast us back out of it. Some point you cross the point of no return, and we may already have done that. It could be that we are in such poor condition there is no salvation. But, if that is true we have an agonizing period of waiting for the inevitable end and what shape that takes we can only guess at. Will it be a breakup like the USSR? Would the division of assets be too acrimonious so it ends in war?
The possibility of extinction is back on the table, then where will all the arguments have gotten us? What possible motivation can Wall Street and their political shills possibly have for gorging on the labor body like a fat tick on hound if the fat tick has grown larger than the hound? If they end not only prosperity but the entire economy and nation, then what?
At my age I may see us fail and enter a period that would be exciting (not in a good way) but also possibly fatal to the planet. I will not live long enough to see the end of the period though.
We are witnessing the end (or beginning of the end) and it just kills me how many people are rooting for it. We need transformation but we also must be ready for that transformation with a plan and we don’t have one. As it is the monstrous machine that mankind has become will be out of balance and vibrate and smoke till it explodes and takes every living thing with it. We are in the countdown and all I see is denial. Pretending this is just a more severe version of normal politics/economics. It is not, there is real hunger in America, real hate, real true poverty, and nobody at the wheel with good intentions, only their own plots for power and yet more wealth even as the nation sinks into a quicksand it will never get out of. Kind of like the sabertooth tigers and mastadons that fell into the La Brea Tar Pits and never got out.
If the common man and woman does not rise up now, today, and take back the country we will lose it and probably see the end of that country. And I don’t know what fork in the road is best, I only know that Trump and his party = death.
“If they end not only prosperity but the entire economy and nation, then what?”
There’s no “if” about that anymore.
Incompetent, utterly-mediocre-to-straigt-up-retarded zero-to-negative value add leeches, already own hence control the lions’ share of all potentially productive resources in this country. Hence why nothing works and no business can compete, even with something as hopeless as communists.
The non threatening, sycophantic idiots the Fed has handed the reigns to, simply don’t know better. It’s not as of they were somehow born evil. They’re just plain dumb. Or, at best, mediocre at everything. Yet, on the back of debasement driven theft from their superiors, they now own all resources. And hence control how those are allocated. Guaranteeing they are misallocated and wasted.
The only two ways out, is 1)mass bankruptcy (which is an entirely benign and harmless event which doesn’t destroy any wealth nor cause any net harm at all), such that debt is wiped out, and all assets obtained over the past 50 years all wealth allocation stemming from nothing but Fed theft, are being firesold at more economically reaslitic prices. Or 2)war, revolution, hyper criminalization or any other such effective “bankruptcy by extralegal means.”
Sad thing is, we’re now so far down the hellhole, that even option 2 is now an improvement on any possible attempt to preserve the current “System”/theft racket.
But while Mogadishu in the 90s may seem a wonderful time and place compared to our current dystopia, option 1 is infinitely superior still. Problem is, choosing it takes some insight, effort and doing. while careening towards option 2, is the default.
I agree Stuki. Rights are universal. Privilege is specific. That’s why no one is interested in rights. If everyone has something, it becomes meaningless.
“If everyone has something, it becomes meaningless.”
Only in zero-sum worlds. Such as ones where all wealth, and hence attendant privilege, are stolen by debasement to be handed to those who own it.
I free economies, things aren’t thus. Hence the rising tide of advances in knowledge, can lift all boats at the same time.
But, when the ruling idiotocracy owes their wealth not to building a better house, but rather by preventing their less incompetent neighbors from doing so, then zero-sum (at best) is what we’re stuck with.
Yes, and sadly, as you have pointed out, that is the world in which we live.
The privileged are not interested in rights because rights are the death of privilege via equality.
Vote third party!
Harris is not progressive. She is reactionary as all get out — a drug warrior and tough-on-crime soft-on-cops prosecutor. This is quite the authoritarian, right-leaning Dem ticket.
I agree, authoritarian all the way, just like Trump.
I have never seen Harris mention her Indian background, she only refers to herself as black.
She is the type who will say anything, do anything to increase her power. Tulsi Gabbard called her out during the debates and destroyed her.
We do love seeing that boot crush a face forever…
It’s almost like a one-party system.
Almost?
Haha forgot my /s.
Picking Harris was the last middle finger to the Sanders wing. You’d think he would have gotten the message in 2016 but some people never take the hint.
The Dems risk alienating the 18-34yo cohort. This pick will not poll well with them.
If the progressive socialists had any stones, they’d abandon the Dem Party (after this election, natch) and form their own party where they’re actually welcome.
I think you’re right about the middle finger. The Democrats have decided to roll the dice again relying on Trumps record to destroy him. I wish they had taken a more proactive approach to winning the election, but here we are. The progressives should leave. Unlike Republicans, Democrats have proven much better at preventing a party coup.
Yes, if she’s a progressive it’s limited to virtue signaling. Unless she’s hiding it well and I’ve watched her here in CA, she’ll govern in the same way as Biden and Obama. That’s why she was picked, she doesn’t pose a threat to the Democratic money machine.
Except that she is against the death penalty or even life in prison.
I posted a rebuttal to you with a link, it got deleted. I don’t feel like recreating it, but the gist is that Harris is personally opposed to the death penalty but professionally respectful of the popular will and so considers it valid. In California it matters not because it is never carried out. But she has no problem with life sentences as an alternative.
Not sure how anyone could see Biden’s choice as caving to the progressive wing. Quite the opposite. Harris is most certainly a centrist, but most importantly an opportunist with no real convictions, other than the poor people she incarcerated for drug offenses in her home state. She kisses the ring of corporate cash and AIPAC just like the rest of the con artists in Congress.