The Trump Trial Opening Statements Confirm a Zoo Spectacle

The opening statements confirm what we knew already. It’s a zoo.

The Hush-Money Trial

The Wall Street Journal reports Trump’s Lawyer in Hush-Money Trial: ‘There’s Nothing Wrong With Trying to Influence an Election’

Prosecutor Matthew Colangelo told jurors that in August 2015, Trump, then a presidential candidate, met with tabloid publisher David Pecker and Michael Cohen, his lawyer and fixer, at Trump Tower. The three men hatched a plan to silence people who had bad things to say about Trump’s behavior by buying their stories, the prosecutor said.

“It was election fraud, plain and simple,” Colangelo said, as the jurors watched intently.

I am struggling to see how paying someone to cover up an illicit affair would ever be considered “election” fraud, but that is the opening accusation.

Trump lawyer Todd Blanche later told the panel that Colangelo had told a nice story that wasn’t true. “I have a spoiler alert,” Blanche said. “There’s nothing wrong with trying to influence an election. It’s called democracy.”

I am not sure I would have phrased it that way, but yes, candidates try to influence elections by design. Biden’s illegal student aid forgiveness plans are a perfect example.

After Trump won the election, Colangelo said, Cohen and Trump took steps to cover up the payment, figuring “reimbursement for porn star” wasn’t a good look in their records.

“They agreed to cook the books,” Colangelo said. He said they agreed Trump would reimburse Cohen in installments for the payment, and disguise the payments as a legal retainer.

Trump’s lawyer, Blanche, told jurors that prosecutors couldn’t prove their case because they couldn’t show the former president had criminal intent. Trump sought to protect his brand and family, Blanche said. “That is not a crime,” Blanche told jurors.

Blanche said two likely prosecution witnesses, Cohen and Daniels, were both unreliable and flawed. Cohen had pleaded guilty to lying under oath, and therefore couldn’t be trusted, and has written books and podcasts about his work with the former president, the defense lawyer said.

“His entire financial livelihood depends on President Trump’s destruction,” Blanche said.

Trial by Media

There is nothing new in any of this, not a thing. This has all been hashed and rehashed in the media many times.

Here’s the zoo clincher.

The office of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, a Democrat who brought the case, has made the unusual move of bringing falsified record offenses without charging Trump with other crimes. If Trump were convicted, he would face no mandatory prison term. 

Trump is accused of falsifying records to commit some crime, but the prosecutor never charged any other crime.

Summation

  • The star witness is a repeated liar and perjurer to the courts and to Congress.
  • The case against Trump is a misdemeanor under New York state law.
  • The law allows an upgrade to felony status if the false record entries with intent to commit or conceal another crime.
  • The case of intent to commit or conceal another crime is so weak the Manhattan DA did not charge Trump with any other crime.

Can Trump Get a Fair Trial?

That’s actually the wrong question. The right question is: Should there be a trial?

Since there should not be a trial at all, by definition a trial cannot be fair.

The charges are remarkably shaky and so is the key witness. It only takes one holdout to reach the correct conclusion, that felony charges are a sham.

By overplaying their hand everywhere, for clearly political and personal reasons, these district attorneys dramatically improved the odds of Trump being elected.

Black Voters Abandoning Biden In Huge Numbers

Please note Swing State Poll Shows Black Voters Abandoning Biden In Huge Numbers

What the Election Come Down To

Immigration won’t decide the election. Polls have not yet captured what will. This may come as a surprise, but the top issue housing. More explicitly, it’s shelter costs.

On April 20, I commented People Who Rent Will Decide the 2024 Presidential Election

Turnout of young voters and blacks, very upset of escalating rents and being locked out of buying a house will decide the elections. See the above link for detailed analysis.

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Jim
Jim
6 days ago

Hopefully, Trump will be able to strip the presiding judge of any pension and health benefits he may have accrued. The legal “system/bureaucracy” have become too ingrown and self-dealing as of late. Time for some uber disruption.

Bayleaf
Bayleaf
17 days ago

There must be repercussions for intentionally bringing these false/bogus charges like personal fines, disbarment, impeachment and imprisonment.

Bayleaf
Bayleaf
17 days ago

It’s always been about housing. Real estate has been the single best investment for most by far. And everyone wants to get in on the action. This is the top issue.

Last edited 17 days ago by Bayleaf
Richard F
Richard F
18 days ago

US Bill of Rights Article VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation, to be confronted with the witnesses against him, to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

Once this farce went for criminal charges against Trump it opened the door for Defense to unlock all Prosecutorial attempts to railroad Donald Trump.
Prosecutors apparently never were exposed to US Constitution way back in Law School.
That phrase ” to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor” is going to be quite a challenge for prosecutors to hide whom they have been talking too and what has been said behind the scenes.

Richard F
Richard F
18 days ago
Reply to  Richard F

Mass media has not read US Bill of Rights either. They talk about everything except what US Constitution actually says. So called Constitutional experts manage to avoid the US Constitution as well. It keeps gumming up that narrative being preached.

KDiddy
KDiddy
18 days ago

We no longer reside in a republic or live under the rule of law.

Case should have never been brought, prosecutorial misconduct. Judge should have dismissed immediately. There is no there, there. Facts or law.

If not blinded by hatred of Trump, most that are objective in legal profession would agree.

Chester
Chester
18 days ago

He’s going to jail, with all the simps he promised to pardon, and didn’t.

realityczech
realityczech
18 days ago
Reply to  Chester

He is? You can see the future? Got any stock picks for me, too?

RonJ
RonJ
18 days ago

ZH: “Unsealed Court Docs Reveal Biden DOJ Colluded With National Archives To Target Trump, Jack Smith Tried To Conceal”
Government corruption

Bam_Man
Bam_Man
18 days ago

Soviet Show Trial, but with The Three Stooges as the prosecution.

Richard F
Richard F
18 days ago

Just because mass media is headquartered in NYC and currently is foaming at the mouth over this case, most of rest of USA does not give a shit about what happens in Manhattan.
If Derms wish to give Trump the campaign opportunity of a lifetime to show himself as a Liberator for those oppressed, well that remains their problem.

Bam_Man
Bam_Man
18 days ago

Idiocracy on PCP.

Blacklisted
Blacklisted
18 days ago

This is how great societies die. The other side will use this as precedent to retaliate, scaring off more businesses, who will find safer jurisdictions to operate or simply get off the grid (with their capital).

The enemy is Govt, who ignores the law and exploits the difference of opinion and beliefs, instead of settling differences with blind justice and upholding the Constitution they swore to protect.

The hubris of the Nutjobs is their blind spot. They do not think there will be another Black Friday, where banksters where dragged out and hung in the street. This time, instead of a revolt against the private sector, it will be against the corrupt public sector, just as occurred in Rome and other great societies.

Chester
Chester
18 days ago
Reply to  Blacklisted

If they want to operate a criminal enterprise, they can do it somewhere else.

Avery2
Avery2
18 days ago

Poor Karl Dennijer post today (re lawfare). He is under the delusion that there is actually a functioning government in place! “We’ll see.”

The comments there are a lot more based than him.

Last edited 18 days ago by Avery2
Jan de Jong
Jan de Jong
18 days ago

The other crime was winning the election.

fast bear
fast bear
19 days ago

Its all theatre meant to polarize and divide the country.
Its not the UNI party
Its the anti-UNITY party.
Because when we are divided we cannot mount an effective defense against a totalitarian fascist regime who has eviscerated our rights.

Give em some credit, when laws are written to erode our rights like the recent injection of steroids into the Patriot Act.
We readily tolerate it without a peep; since we imagine, “when our guy is in power” we can use it to suppress those other guys, those Trump Tards or Libtards, those climate deniers or climate loonies, those zionists or those antisemites, those open borders lovers or open border haters, those abortion lovers or those abortion haters, those elections are stolen or elections are fine morons, Covid vaxes are real & life saving or Covid vaxes are killing people, Ukraine must be saved – Russians are noble and on and one and on.

Imagine thinking every issue is a near perfect 50%/50% – (((coincidence)))?

Imagine thinking Ai can write and play perfect Taylor Swift songs in seconds? But cannot be utilized as the internet’s windows into our minds (we all get different Goggle results) to build a digital prison all while exerting near total control over the media we see while also dis-intermediating our communications over Facebook, Youtube, Twitter (X), Instagram et. al. to manipulate what we think and feel?

But of course, that free ranging Tik Tok has got to go….

Imagine thinking elections matter?

Its all fake
You’re being played

Alex
Alex
19 days ago

It’s not a zoo it’s a circus. Complete with an orange tinged clown and a Deomocrat Freak Show.

Avery2
Avery2
19 days ago
Reply to  Alex

I wouldn’t be caught dead in New York City.

Bruce
Bruce
19 days ago

Given the BS DAs are pouring onto Trump-WHY wasn’t Hillary persecuted for her role w/ the BOGUS Steele Dossier she paid for? She should also pay for other crimes including her secret, unauthorized home server & destroying phones & laptops to hide her emails etc.

Casual Observer
Casual Observer
19 days ago

There’s some irony here. The Dems are using the system to hamper Trump. Trump keeps appealing which makes him need to show up to courts everywhere. Trump is too cheap to follow the law. The only difference between him and every other businessman or politician is a good lawyer who knows how to circumvent the law. So Trump’s cheapness is coming back to haunt him.

Avery2
Avery2
19 days ago

He should have went to H & R Crock.

LM2020
LM2020
19 days ago

Hilarious. The people who wanted to lock up Hilary Clinton because of her emails are just BESIDE themselves at the injustice of Trump, a career criminal, finally being held to account. I say… LOCK HIM UP!

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
19 days ago
Reply to  LM2020

WTF are you babbling on about, you deranged bastard?! Clinton is more likely whatever you imagine Trump to be.

Roto1711
Roto1711
18 days ago

Bingo!

DAVID J CASTELLI
DAVID J CASTELLI
19 days ago
Reply to  LM2020

What crime’s has this career criminal been convicted of?

Roto1711
Roto1711
18 days ago
Reply to  LM2020

You are obviously deluded, I’m sure you just love your demented crooked Biden and his cronies, I say lock them up.

realityczech
realityczech
18 days ago
Reply to  LM2020

TDS.

A D
A D
19 days ago

Soviet Show Trial with a Democrat hack judge, AntiFa jury, and a rabid Soros prosecutor

Chester
Chester
18 days ago
Reply to  A D

Which one? What is he up on, 70 charges now?

Soviets would have just chucked him out the window when they were done with him.

If you guys wouldn’t have voted for an obvious criminal with ties to the Russian mob, you wouldn’t be seeing your candidate go to jail. Maybe it doesn’t matter to you simps if he “shoots someone on fifth avenue” but it matters to the adults.

Time to take your binkey away.

realityczech
realityczech
18 days ago
Reply to  Chester

lol, the TDS is going full tilt.

Patrick
Patrick
19 days ago

Lock her up! Remember that one? Yet James Comey told us that no reasonable prosecutor would charge Hilzy for wut, sedition, treason, murder? I digress. As Turley points out yet again, Hilzy w/ pet sleezebag lawfare whore, Marc Elias, paid for the Russia, Russia dossier as a legal expense. Exactly what the so called prosecutor here is accusing Trump of doing. Its not mushrooms, its angel dust, PCP lawfare. I think this is proof that we are not living in a simulation because no machine mind could ever come up with something so whacked.

Scott Craig LeBoo
Scott Craig LeBoo
19 days ago

The young people cant find houses because the houses, which are indeed there, were bought up with zero percent money offered by the banks to the rich and connected, and with this free money over 14 years (2006-2020), American began to be “taken private,” where a few thousand superrich used their credit lines (at zero percent) to buy up everything in sight: stocks, bonds, real estate, businesses (less competition = higher prices for everything), houses, apartment buildings, etc. The houses are available — they just are now rentals at twice the price. The fault starts with Obama …

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
19 days ago

How many million illegal immigrants are there now occupying housing?!

Stu
Stu
19 days ago

The exact same number of Legal Citizens, that are currently homeless, would be my guess…

Pavel
Pavel
18 days ago

I was going to make that exact point. Plus how many of the low-wage jobs are they taking away from US citizens — who are double-whacked by having their taxes subsidise the “newcomers” as they are now labelled?

The hospitals and schools are also being overwhelmed by the migrants. Do Biden & Co really think people aren’t noticing?

Stu
Stu
18 days ago
Reply to  Pavel

C’mon Man, doesn’t everybody get Free College, Free Rent, Free Housing, Free Medical, Free Dental, Free $?

What’s that? Only if you’re in Our Country Illegally, do you, and your extended Family get all that and More.

Casual Observer
Casual Observer
19 days ago

This is also what happens when banks give loans to people who aren’t as wealthy as they claim. Bank fraud props up prices and crowds out the market for loans unnecessarily. Everyone who overstated wealth on loans fraudulently should be prosecuted.

Mike2112
Mike2112
19 days ago

There aren’t enough courtrooms in the land to handle that docket.

The fact is we didn’t prosecute all the bad loans that led to the Housing Collapse and we shouldn’t be prosecuting Trump for loans that did NOT lead to any foreclosure.

But if you’re going to prosecute then dont forget the bank’s appraisers who agreed with the valuations of the properties.

By the time you are done locking up the bankers and borrowers we wont have any chance of a thriving economy b/c ppl will start to avoid doing things on paper and go more underground.

Stu
Stu
18 days ago
Reply to  Mike2112

That started about a year or so ago…

Chester
Chester
18 days ago
Reply to  Mike2112

He’s not being prosecuted for the loans. He’s being prosecuted for the risk premium he cheated them out of.

You don’t care about that though. I don’t know why you even bother to bring it up. Doesn’t matter anyhow. He’s going to jail, and there is nothing any of you keyboard warriors can do about it.

realityczech
realityczech
18 days ago
Reply to  Chester

lol, sometimes rather than debating, it’s just fun to watch TDSers spin themselves into a fluffy froth.

babelthuap
babelthuap
18 days ago

Then you would have to prosecute everyone who lied about their income during the 08 housing crash. I am 100% with you on this one. They all should have been sent to the gulag.

Chester
Chester
18 days ago

Fraud is fine if you have a tv show, and tell all the fat kids how special they are.

DAVID J CASTELLI
DAVID J CASTELLI
19 days ago

you should look a couple of the islands in Hawaii.
Look into all the short term rentals by the wealthy, the mansions or more like fortresses owned by Zuckerman, Oprah, so many others. Meanwhile the local hawaiin cant afford to love on their own land

DaveFromDenver
DaveFromDenver
19 days ago

It ain’t cheap to live in paradise.

Jeffrey Kassel
Jeffrey Kassel
19 days ago

Mish, get used to spectacle over substance and rationality. That’s America now.

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
19 days ago
Reply to  Jeffrey Kassel

Reality show land… the Big Brother House? I’m a celebrity get me out of here?!

Chester
Chester
18 days ago

We made one our president, that one time…

Outback
Outback
19 days ago

It is NOT a trial, but a kangaroo court.

Woodsie Guy
Woodsie Guy
19 days ago

This is a big yawn for me. I suspect Trump will be acquitted in this case. He has serious problems in the Georgia case in my view. Regardless I couldn’t care less one way or the other if he’s convicted or not. One of these two knuckleheads is gonna be our next President. So plan accordingly. That is all….

Last edited 19 days ago by Woodsie Guy
Jeffrey Kassel
Jeffrey Kassel
19 days ago
Reply to  Woodsie Guy

How will Trump get acquitted? He took the hush money bribe as a tax deduction. That’s a felony. I suppose he can try to blame his CFO but there’s that recording of Trump discussing the sordid mess with his lawyer. Trump’s MO remains blaming everyone but himself..

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
19 days ago
Reply to  Jeffrey Kassel

I guess the same way the Bidens got acquitted of bribes to do with Ukraine?

Mike2112
Mike2112
19 days ago
Reply to  Jeffrey Kassel

Then why ist the IRS going after him?

Chester
Chester
18 days ago
Reply to  Jeffrey Kassel

Still has a few clowns coming round to get chucked under the bus, but even the nazis are starting to realize his pardon promises are empty.

deadbeatloser
deadbeatloser
18 days ago
Reply to  Woodsie Guy

Gavin Newscum will be in office before you know it

Chester
Chester
18 days ago
Reply to  deadbeatloser

Bow down before the Maginificent Hairdo.

RonJ
RonJ
19 days ago

Supposedly, the statute of limitations expired. Two entities declined to prosecute Trump. As Jonathan Turley put it, Bragg bootstrapped a misdemenor into 34 felony counts. Bragg is obviously corrupt. The intent is to meddle in our election. It is not about seeking justice.

“I am struggling to see how paying someone to cover up an illicit affair would ever be considered “election” fraud…”

Trump borrowed money from a bank and repaid it. There was no victim. Malicious prosecution. Again, the intent is not that of seeking justice. The intent is to meddle in our election.

The phone call with Zelenski was legal. Morrison, who was in on the call, confirmed that. Yet Trump was impeached. The intent was to meddle in our election.

The Democrat Party is corrupt.

Jeffrey Kassel
Jeffrey Kassel
19 days ago
Reply to  RonJ

The case is about tax fraud as well. Trump took a corporate tax deduction for the bribe he paid to Stormy.

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
19 days ago
Reply to  Jeffrey Kassel

…and even if that is true, how is that “electoral fraud”?

Mike2112
Mike2112
19 days ago
Reply to  Jeffrey Kassel

That’s a case for the tax authorities and they apparently dont agree with you.

Willie Nelson II
Willie Nelson II
19 days ago

Just a humiliating fiasco for NYC and the USA.

Alvin Bragg should be charged with election interference at minimum, and maybe accessory to murder of a NYC police officer.

An illegal immigrant shot a cop last week, after being released by Bragg “himself” (his office, and his signature). Of course, it was likely a subordinate that did the release, but at minimum Bragg chose to ignore the illegal immigrant and instead focus on being a DNC stooge interfering in a federal election with a sham of a witch hunt.

Bragg made the choice to ignore the safety of NY’ers in general, and the cop specifically. And yes, it is reasonable to expect a multi-time assault illegal immigrant was going to be a problem again. No one is qualified to pass the NY state bar if they couldnt anticipate this illegal would keep doing exactly what he had been arrested for multiple times. Bragg knew it. Don’t know if that constitutes accessory to murder in a legal sense, but Bragg definitely acted in a way very likely to result in someone’s murder (cop or citizen) by the illegal.

None of this is going to hold up on appeal. Its just going to make NYC look worse.

Vote however you wish, but don’t destroy the USA in the process.

Just shameful NYC. Get your acts together and act like the greatest city you used to be

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
19 days ago

Remember the 70s? Not NY’s finest period.

DAVID J CASTELLI
DAVID J CASTELLI
19 days ago

this is worse. More people, more violent mentally ill homeless on the street and while there was also not enough law enforcers back then, since they do not enforce criminal law in NYC anymore whats the difference

DAVID J CASTELLI
DAVID J CASTELLI
19 days ago

It is because liberals never look in the mirror. They think they are above all this, even though they voted for it.
Those Westchester liberals are going to have to move once the migrants make there way up a tad north

Thetenyear
Thetenyear
19 days ago

Meanwhile…Where are the dam Republicans?

Too busy waving their little Ukraine flags to speak up for THEIR presidential candidate?

Albert
Albert
19 days ago
Reply to  Thetenyear

What are Republicans supposed to say? Maybe it‘s good for family values to „hang out“ with pornstars and playmates and then pay them to stay silent because otherwise you can’t win an election (and your wife is mad at you).

Laura
Laura
19 days ago
Reply to  Albert

This is NOT a hush money trial. That’s what the MSM/Trump haters are calling it. This is about a campaign finance violation.

Albert
Albert
19 days ago
Reply to  Laura

You mean this by campaign finance violation? Making, Receiving, or Failing to Report a Contribution, Donation, or Expenditure, in Violation of the Federal Election Campaign Act; Fraudulently Misrepresenting. I guess Trump did all of that. And Cohen went for prison for it. Then let justice be done in the case of Trump as well.

Sean
Sean
19 days ago
Reply to  Albert

This is a minor bookkeeping issue.. that is usually no more serious than a misdemeanor yet this corrupt da manipulated into a felony.. they want to put him in jail for the rest of his life over a campaign Finance issue that is usually resolved with a fine.. truly Banana Republic crap.. selective prosecution violative of the equal protection clause.. can’t even believe what corruption we are witnessing .. blatant election interference.. the idiot judge here didn’t even understand that money market accounts are cash..

Jeffrey Kassel
Jeffrey Kassel
19 days ago
Reply to  Sean

A $400,000 bookkeeping error. He took it as a tax fraud crime. Errors are unintentional mistakes. This tax deduction was intentional and Trump did pay her off because bad publicity could hurt is run for President, among other things.. The story is amazing. Everybody is being betrayed and Trump will insist it’s everybody’s fault but his. Trump made a lot of enemies and he can’t stop himself from insulting people including the judge who can give him time. You seem to have mastered Trump’s talking points.

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
19 days ago
Reply to  Jeffrey Kassel

Yeah, but what happens after all that? There’s no other republican candidate, you just have one-party state, where the dictator doesn’t even know what time of day it is? What exactly are you fighting for?!

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
19 days ago
Reply to  Albert

Even if you get your way, what will that achieve? You make him a martyr, and turn the election into a complete farce, with two geriatric candidates, one in prison, and the other demented and managed by Mr Zients and co.; how do you govern the largest economy in the world after that? I mean, what actually comes after your “victory” if you manage to achieve it? An almighty ungovornable mess, a Phyrric Victory that leads to potential far-left Maoist woke techno-authoritarianism?!

Mike2112
Mike2112
19 days ago
Reply to  Albert

Hillary just paid a fine when she did it with the Steele Dossier.

But it’s different when democrats do it, right?

Thetenyear
Thetenyear
19 days ago
Reply to  Albert

Everyone knows that Trump is not Mr Clean. And no one cares. It’s not 1950 anymore. We hired him because he gets things done. Biden is the biggest pervert to occupy 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and is incapable of getting anything done.

I’ll take competent Trump with his porn star/playmate baggage over the incompetent perv that currently occupies the white house.

Albert
Albert
19 days ago
Reply to  Thetenyear

Call me old-fashioned, but I have zero respect for politicians like Trump who cheat on their wives. If they cheat on their wives, they will cheat on everything.

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
19 days ago
Reply to  Albert

Besides a few Howdy Doody types like Carter, what politicians are likely *not* to have cheated?

We know Kennedy, Clinton and Trump for sure have cheated? What do you think the odds are that other recent ones (Reagan, both Bushes, Obama, LBJ, Nixon, Biden) were faithful? As Chris Rock famously said: ‘ a man is only as faithful as his options’.

Jeffrey Kassel
Jeffrey Kassel
19 days ago
Reply to  Albert

Trump’s even cheated himself. For a guy that thrives on crowd approval, he has a long record of embarrassing behavior, slander, sexual assault, lying and fraud.

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
19 days ago
Reply to  Jeffrey Kassel

Who doesn’t? I mean honestly, if you want perfection, then you want an AI government I presume, rather than a human one, and you should be very very careful what you wish for.

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
19 days ago
Reply to  Albert

Whenever politicians or their detractors start getting moral, it usually unravels quite quickly. If you want to conflate romantic relationship issues with imagined fraud or other crimes, then heaven help humanity.

Mike2112
Mike2112
19 days ago
Reply to  Albert

Biden showered with his dgtr.

That’s much worse.

Oh, and then he had his DOJ throw the woman who exposed the crime in jail.

That’s much, much worse

deadbeatloser
deadbeatloser
18 days ago
Reply to  Albert

you lost all credibility when you referred to Trump as a politician

Jeffrey Kassel
Jeffrey Kassel
19 days ago
Reply to  Thetenyear

I’m not a Biden guy but Trump was the one trying to steal the election. At least Biden isn’t talking to the press every friggin’ day looking for attention. Biden mostly knows when to shut up…..Trump could learn a few things from Biden; but I’m no Biden guy. Neither one of these guys should be running. To me it looks like dumb and dumber.

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
19 days ago
Reply to  Jeffrey Kassel

So who then? What do you want? What are you fighting for? Where does all the hate and vitriol come from? What is your genuine vision for the future? Do you want to continue with this degraded democracy?

DAVID J CASTELLI
DAVID J CASTELLI
19 days ago
Reply to  Jeffrey Kassel

Dems want another 4 years of Weekend at Bernies……..

realityczech
realityczech
18 days ago
Reply to  Jeffrey Kassel

Biden can’t speak at all. They locked him in the basement in 2020, but he really can’t do that now. His dementia is on full display. He’s going to be hilarious to watch in the ‘debates’.

The Dirty Mac
The Dirty Mac
17 days ago
Reply to  Jeffrey Kassel

I’m not a Trump guy but I’ll vote against Biden’s lawfare.

realityczech
realityczech
18 days ago
Reply to  Albert

What’s worse: paying hush money to pornstars or funding a war that has so far killed about 450,000 people on one of the sides? If you’re struggling with this question or you think the Trump’s still the baddie, seek help.

Edward
Edward
19 days ago

I wish I was on the Jury. Probably lose 1/4 of my family and 3/4 of my friends.

YP_Yooper
YP_Yooper
19 days ago

Gotta say, I didn’t think about things in this way. So what if he tried to influence the election by subverting negative news in an election? How is it any different for any political campaign “spin team” to try and influence new releases.
Now, he does need to go up on charges for the orchestrated and planned overthrow of an election with all the Trump hand-picked “I only hire the best” bunch of lawyers that turned state’s witness.
But he’s innocent until proven guilty in court…

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
19 days ago
Reply to  YP_Yooper

It increasingly looks like the Democratic Party don’t simply want Trump to not be a candidate for the presidency, but they seem to not want there to be a rival candidate at all… the Democratic Party seem to want a one-party state where they dictate culture and morality to half the country who abhor everything they stand for.

Independent2024
Independent2024
19 days ago

Biden is currently leading in the polls even if just by a margin but what else is happening?

In deep red Tennessee, unions just won there at VW plant.
link to npr.org

In Washington, the first ever Costco just unionized, expect this to spread.

Plenty of Starbucks have been unionizing the past few years.

Yeah, young people are mad and they are unionizing to fix the wage deficiencies so they can buy a house, they are not jumping on the trump bandwagon no matter how badly boomers want it to be true.

Then you have all those young women that won’t touch trump with a ten foot pole.

Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
19 days ago

Union leaders win. More VWs will be made abroad while low seniority workers get pink slips. Costcos and Starbucks will close unionized stores. I experienced this first hand. My unionized plant was closed while some of us salaried types were offered a move package to a business friendly state.

Not knocking the idea or the need for higher wages but this is not the environment to demand it. It would have been much better to avoid insane govt spending and QE that caused inflation in the first place. I know, let’s increase taxes. Yeah, that will help.

YP_Yooper
YP_Yooper
19 days ago

…and other entrepreneurs and companies will fill the gap. At some point, companies will learn to account for the higher wages or new companies will take the market share.

Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
19 days ago
Reply to  YP_Yooper

I really hope so. Love to see anyone that wants a job have one. Afraid we’re in for a long dearth of employment for humans where plenty of 24/7 robots are born. Jobs will be a lot different on the other side of what is coming.

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
19 days ago

Biden is not leading in the polls, not by any margin.

Avery2
Avery2
19 days ago

But would anyone pay to see Fanny at Polekatz?

realityczech
realityczech
18 days ago

Young people can’t afford rent. Or a car. Or insurance. But go on….

Albert
Albert
19 days ago

Summation:

The star witness lied and perjured himself to cover up for Donald Trump‘s catch-and-kill scheme.

There are several options for the prosecution to establish a crime in addition to the misdemeanors. It’s up to jury to decide whether the prosecution is successful in doing that.

And on Trump‘s intent, let’s hear from Hope Hicks and other witnesses. And let the jury decide. That’s our system.

matt3
matt3
19 days ago
Reply to  Albert

And the venue doesn’t matter? I think the only way to end the utilization of lawfare is the Republican State Attorneys to try Dem politicians in very GOP areas. These trials are not what the judicial system was designed for.

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
19 days ago
Reply to  Albert

…and then what? imagine everything that you want to happen with respect to this trial, happens… then what? what do you get? what do you win? what is the outcome? what kind of election is it? Is there one at all? Or do the Dems just trigger WW3 to avoid it?

Patrick
Patrick
19 days ago

The whole reason they are doing this “trial” is so they can hurt trump in the public opinion via the mainstream media, that not many people believe any longer. This actually helps Trump in the big picture, while decimating people’s believe in the “Justice System”

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
19 days ago
Reply to  Patrick

They must know that it’s having the opposite effect, yet they double down, which starts to suggest that they simply want him jailed or murdered or something, and they don’t want to have a real election at all.

Hank
Hank
19 days ago

The pedo groomer tyrannical election cheating surveillance state has taken their kill shot.

Based on history I would advise “don’t miss because if you do, then YOU are fucked”

Here’s me hoping they miss because the retribution will be spectacular…… they may even get their wet dream wish of an angry dictator which is historically one of the possible outcomes of a missed shot

Buckle up kids it only gets worse from here

matt3
matt3
19 days ago
Reply to  Hank

They will get more shots with other trials. The also have the JFK and RFK option available.

Hank
Hank
19 days ago
Reply to  matt3

It’s very possible. If those idiots chose to go the kennedy assassination route on trump, I suspect that would be an open and immediate invitation for a large majority of the 400millions guns and several to ten+ billion rounds of ammo to weigh in domestically …… which would be really ironic

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
19 days ago
Reply to  Hank

The obvious inference is of some kind of civil war, but it would not be like olden days, because the technology and bureaucracy and distribution of population is different. The real question is what happens to the bank accounts of such dissidents?

Jon Myers
Jon Myers
19 days ago

Sympathy for the Devil

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
19 days ago
Reply to  Jon Myers

Which one?!

CzarChasm Reigns
CzarChasm Reigns
19 days ago

One of Michael Cohen’s convictions was a campaign-finance violation stemming from the hush money payments made on behalf of Individual-1.

What is good for the goose, is good for the gander.

YP_Yooper
YP_Yooper
19 days ago

True, the “election fraud” claim is garbage, after reading Mish’s post.
I’d agree with you that if it’s campaign finance related, and one minion guy already went down, so yeah, so should “The Don” who orchestrated it.

Laura
Laura
19 days ago

Just because Cohen was convicted of a campaign finance violation doesn’t automatically mean ANYONE else has a campaign violation. Cohen accepted a plea deal for anything the prosecution wanted in order to limit his jail time.

CzarChasm Reigns
CzarChasm Reigns
18 days ago
Reply to  Laura

Cui bono? Hint: it wasn’t Cohen.

steve
steve
19 days ago

The dems are in heaven right now. They may take months and months with a cast of thousands to smear Trump all day long with anything they want to whether or not relevant to the case. The longer they can go, the happier they will get. They think they will win votes this way. So deluded are they.

Wisdom Seeker
Wisdom Seeker
19 days ago
Reply to  steve

“Never interfere with an opponent who is in the process of self-destructing.”

Ockham's Razor
Ockham’s Razor
19 days ago

If someone says in a funeral “He was a great guy, who loved relaxing with his friends”, instead of “He was a mean drunk”, it’s electoral fraud?

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
19 days ago

This is an enormous waste of NY taxpayer money (I suspect the final cost will be in the millions when all the investigative time + court time + lawyers times are factored in). At a time when homeless migrants is at a crisis state due to lack of funds.

If I were a NY taxpayer I’d be outraged that the DA (the city) was spending taxpayer money on this when there are so many more pressing issues to spend money on.

notaname
notaname
19 days ago
Reply to  TexasTim65

Yea … don’t want to spend migrant $$ on a sham trial!

How about some new thinking … have the migrants serve as jurors in exchange for food/housing?

One shot
One shot
19 days ago
Reply to  TexasTim65

If I were a NY taxpayer, Id leave NY. Oh wait, I already did!!!

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
19 days ago
Reply to  TexasTim65

If you were a NY taxpayer with any sense, you would probably leave the state.

Tom Bergerson
Tom Bergerson
19 days ago

The Alvin Bragg charges are such an outrageous abuse of prosecutorial discretion that SCOTUS is not doing its job as it just watches while our entire Justice System and Rule of Law dissolves on its watch.

Were I Roberts I would break legal precedent by SUI GENERIS sending some kind of message to all involved in the White House endeavor to remove their chief opponent from the field using the Legal System at which he sits at the apex.

A massive breach of all precedent and all red lines by the White House and the Dark Powers demands such a response.

Roberts is obviously as captured by the Intel State as Mike Johnson is.

Meanwhile the Bang Point comes on and on and on.

Tick tock tick tock

Last edited 19 days ago by Tom Bergerson
Avery2
Avery2
19 days ago
Reply to  Tom Bergerson

Roberts on Epstein Island. Johnson in his closet.

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
19 days ago
Reply to  Tom Bergerson

One hopes that the idea is to let the idiot DAs overplay their hand to the maximum, and then the subsequent prosecution of them becomes a very simple open and shut case, because there’s so very little that they can deny having done.

Tom Bergerson
Tom Bergerson
17 days ago

The best outcome is they are removed from the Bar.

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