Michigan Judge Denies Trump Backers’ Bid to Toss Detroit Votes
Bloomberg reports Michigan Judge Denies Trump Backers’ Bid to Toss Detroit Votes
A Michigan judge rejected a lawsuit by supporters of President Donald Trump seeking to block certification of the election results in Detroit and surrounding Wayne County on the grounds that the counting of ballots there was plagued by widespread fraud.
Circuit Court Judge Timothy Kenny ruled Friday that the suit failed to show why he should halt the certification or order an audit of the vote tally in Michigan’s largest city, which voted heavily in favor of President-Elect Joe Biden. Major media outlets declared Biden the winner of Michigan and its 16 electoral votes last week, and he leads the vote count by more than 146,000 votes.
Wayne County provided a large part of that margin, casting 587,074 votes for Biden, compared to 264,149 for Trump, according to the county’s unofficial results.
The Trump campaign has filed a similar lawsuit in federal court in Michigan seeking to halt certification of the state’s results based on allegations of fraud, largely in Wayne County. It is also suing to block certification of the election results in Pennsylvania, likewise alleging fraud in Democratic-leaning cities and counties in that state.
Trump Loses Pennsylvania Appeal Challenging Ballot Receipt Deadline
ZeroHedge reports Trump Loses Pennsylvania Appeal Challenging Ballot Receipt Deadline
The 3rd Circuit upheld a lower court order rejecting a constitutional challenge to PA’s extended, post-Election Day deadline for absentee ballots.
“…we do so with commitment to a proposition indisputable in our democratic process: that the lawfully cast vote of every citizen must count.”
The Ruling
We do not decide today whether the Deadline Extension or the Presumption of Timeliness are proper exercises of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania’s lawmaking authority, delegated by the U.S. Constitution, to regulate federal elections. Nor do we evaluate the policy wisdom of those two features of the Pennsylvania Supreme Court’s ruling. We hold only that when voters cast their ballots under a state’s facially lawful election rule and in accordance with instructions from the state’s election officials, private citizens lack Article III standing to enjoin the counting of those ballots on the grounds that the source of the rule was the wrong state organ or that doing so dilutes their votes or constitutes differential treatment of voters in violation of the Equal Protection Clause. Further, and independent of our holding on standing, we hold that the District Court did not err in denying Plaintiffs’ motion for injunctive relief out of concern for the settled expectations of voters and election officials. We will affirm the District Court’s denial of Plaintiffs’ emergency motion for a TRO or preliminary injunction.
Fast and Expected
That was both fast and expected.
Similar challenges await the same fate.
Trump will appeal, and if there is any bit of further common sense, higher courts will refuse the case.
Mish
Anyone who didn’t vote for someone that could win doesn’t have a lick of common sense. Right Mish? Let’s see how this plays out in the courts, you don’t have a problem with due process do you Mish? We already know the programs and machines were fixed, 6000 votes switched that we do know from Trump to Biden. Let this play out. The good thing is your vote will never count in Utah. Wow have you gone off the deep end since 2003.
Read the first two words. Rest is superfluous
Maureen Dowd compares Trump to silent screen star Norma Desmond. Interestingly enough Trump does say Sunset Boulevard is one of his favorite pictures
Another interesting way this could turn out would be for the Supreme Court to agree to hear one of these cases, and then to affirm it. That would be a powerful, powerful statement that they are an independent branch of government, and not a political branch.
I think SCOTUS will take the case and give Trump a pyrrhic victory by ruling in his favor but there’s not enough ballots to change the outcome. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a big Trump fan but there’s a silver lining in his defeat. A likely GOP Senate and right leaning judiciary will make Biden a lame duck right off the bat. Fair or unfair but anything that goes wrong will be blamed on Biden. The Democrat House majority is thin and will be dodged by infighting. GOP needs only 7 seats to take over which would probably lead to Biden impeachment in 2023.
I’m now thinking all of this is just to keep money flowing to Trump entities in some form or fashion. I think it is possible the Trump campaign is just laundering money to the Trump organization using lawyers as the intermediary. Once the Trump campaign runs out of money, the lawyers will leave him. The people who continue to support Trump are the biggest fools around. Even Trump thinks they are fools.
Trump just had a devastating loss in the courts which is virtually impossible to recover from. A court refused to grant Trump relief due to the “Purcell principle”.
Coming from this conservative panel, and saying that [federal courts] can’t interfere so close to an election, destroys any hope Trump thought he had. He can try to get SCOTUS to flip it, but very tough.”
There’s no question in my mind that if you remove any ONE of these things:
…then Trump eeks out an Electoral College victory.
So to me that’s why Trump will forever be the winner of this election…due to how slanted it was against him and how much it started off in Biden’s favor.
Trump shot himself in the foot by missing his chance to actually become a leader…..COVID was his shot at real greatness…..and instead he proved that he was completely incapable of rising to the challenge.
And thank God….or we’d have to put up with four more years of his constant campaigning (which is all he ever did, other than let Navarro do the trade war thing) and his gross incompetence….and his persistent cronyism….and his inability to listen to the slightest criticism……I could go on and on.
I don’t expect to change your delusional mind….don’t really care about that…..but I just think this kind of silly shit you’re writing on a public forum should be called out.
The mail in voting had nothing to do with Covid-19. Multiple states passed mail in voting laws after 2016 prior to covid. Do you know why ? Because the repeal of the Voting Rights Act gave states more leeway on how to conduct elections. In 2016, the Democrats were not prepared and took victory for granted. Republicans thought the repeal of the voting rights act would be a long term victory but it is turning out to be just a one and done situation. Mail in voting is here to stay.
By the way, you don’t deal too well with reality. Just like Trump.
I don’t deal to well with corruption. I was aised to beleive that this was a fair country where elections were above board. Both Zuc and Jack Dorsey should be behind bars for illegal censorship which amounts to election tampering.
There’s no question in my mind that if you remove any ONE of these things:
…then Trump eeks out an Electoral College victory.
So to me that’s why Trump will forever be the winner of this election…due to how slanted it was against him and how much it started off in Biden’s favor.
The turnout was high because of Trump. His followers were eager to vote for him. His detractors were eager to vote against him.
It was artificially high though by the “ease” of mail-in voting, AND the fact that a lot of people were artificially at home with nothing better to do than go vote. Restore any one of those factors to “normal” and Trump certainly wins. To me it is no coincidence at all that this bug19 arrived exactly one year or so before the most pivotal election in our lifetimes against a man who open declared war on the Globalists….
Thanks to Covid, there was almost no way Trump could lose. Presidents never lose re-election in times of crisis. Well, they don’t, unless they act like morons. All Trump had to do was to act Presidential. He could have made some simple statement such as “We are all in this together, and we will get through this”, and his support would have shot up. Then he needed to appoint a bi-partisan pandemic committee to insulate himself from the outcome, and then he could have gone and played golf for 6 months.
He was dealt a win-win position, where his support would have gone up if the pandemic was awful, and his support would have gone up it it was a big nothing. Instead he abandoned the high ground, and let the Democrats have the win-win position. He gambled that Covid would go away on it’s own, and it didn’t, and he lost.
When you look at the election results, Republicans did well at the state level. They took back seats in the House. They most likely have retained the Senate. So, it was a very, very successful election for Republicans, with the sole exception of Trump. The high turnout did not doom Republicans; it only doomed Trump. The people spoke loudly and clearly: “We want Republicans. We just don’t want Trump.”
Covid was a no-win situation, and the Globalists and/or Chinese knew it would be for Trump. The only way to satisfy “the people” would have been to take draconian anti-liberty actions that Trump was never, ever going to do. I found Trumps response to be more more than acceptable given that the Constitution would certainly label this a “State’s Issue”.
Not true at all. To reiterate, in times of crisis, the popularity of leaders always goes up, so long as they make one critical move. The one thing they MUST do is to unite the country. Can you point me to even one case where Trump made a comment along the lines of “This is going to be a long and difficult struggle, bu we can get through this if we all work together”?
Trumps first 3.2 years were fine, and until Covid, he was merely an average President, and he would surely have been reelected on the strength of the economy alone. In late February, however, Trump abandoned his strong position, and made two ludicrous statements. First, he boasted “We have it completely under control”, putting his incompetence out there for everyone to see. Second, he said “if you want a test you can get a test”, an obvious lie, at a time when tests simply were not available in the US, even though other countries such as S. Korea had already done tens of thousands of tests.
Mish has an entire thread of the incredibly stupid, false, and inconsistent things Trump said about Covid:
It is an astounding array of incredible incompetence. Even with all that, he nearly won. He didn’t have to be brilliant in his handling of Covid. He merely had to be better than grossly incompetent.
He had one last chance to win the election. When he himself contracted Covid, he had an opportunity to show understanding and empathy to the people infected by Covid, and one last opportunity to call for unity. Instead, he ripped his mask off, and defiantly said, in essence, “I don’t care about anyone else, and no one can stop me from spreading Covid to everyone around me”.
With that despicable behavior, he cemented his position as the worst President in US history. At a time when Republicans made gains at the state level, gains in Congress, and when they did better than expected in the Senate, Trump was soundly “fired”, as he should have been.
Rudy will take it all the way to the supreme courtyard by marriot
Get ready for four more years. Anyone who thinks this is over is dreaming. The entire Republican Party is supporting Trump’s continued hold on power. Finally we can see what really matters in this country: white supremacy forever. If you value freedom find another country because this ain’t it!
I was looking forward to an audit of detroit. It’s a total cess pool.
And “Bama” Neck-Tucky, West Virginia, Mississippi, Florida, Ohio, Indianna and Their Brethren are not!!!
4:00 pm press conference. Trump started discussing Biden as the next president but then pulled back
There is some speculation about Trump giving pardons to his whole grifting family, then resigning and getting Pence to issue him a pardon.
The entire idea that this might be possible is something I find reprehensible and disgusting.
It wouldn’t protect him or them in the NY State cases that are ongoing….but it still stinks, if it were to happen that way.
I still don’t understand how a pardon can be issued when he has no indictments and cannot be prosecuted as president. No clear explanation of pre-emptive pardons.
It’s a bad idea that should not happen, but possibly could happen. Constitutional scholars differ on exactly what a President can pardon….and Ford pardoning Nixon without him ever being charged or convicted set a bad precedent.
And yet it worked out well. Nixon vanished in shame, and never reappeared again for the remainder of his life. Does anyone think Trump would vanish for the remainder of his life?
I’m hoping the Russians take him out because he failed to deliver the goods. Or the Deep State pretending to be the Russians….or the Russians pretending to be the Deep State pretending to be the Russians.
It appears Trump has finally gotten sick and tired of winning.
Losing these cases is a prerequisite to US Supreme Court review.
Yes – but there needs to be a question of law that there is disagreement on for an appeal. It doesn’t sound like there is much of a question about the law in these cases.
The whole thing is just an infomercial to support is “Trump Recount Fund” grift. Trump takes the first $5K from the donation and puts into his PAC that he can then use to by Trump stuff and pay Trump family members. Reminds me of the ShamWow.
“On Tuesday, a week after the election, the small print changed: Now, 60 percent of every donation goes to Trump’s new leadership PAC, Save America. Only after a donor gives the $5,000 legal maximum to Save America would any portion of their contribution go to Trump’s recount effort.
The remainder of every check, 40 percent, goes to the RNC, up to the legal maximum of $35,500. Only donors who’ve maxed out to the RNC will have their contributions deposited in the party’s legal and headquarters accounts, each of which can accept contributions of up to $106,500.”
What did Trump and surrogates say in 2016
Who is going to drag Trump kicking and screaming out of the White House??
America’s Biggest Loser
I posted the below earlier in a different thread, but I had been thinking about it a bit more and was coming to the conclusion that there may be some method to the ‘throw these lawsuits against the court and see what sticks’ madness that seems to describe the Trump legal strategy.
Although these losses in the current thread are rather devastating as far as actually getting to overturning/changing the election outcome, that may be secondary to holding on to people’s attention. To the true believers, all it takes is one win and then all these losses are just proof that the ‘system’ is against them.
Even if the win is as dumb as this:
The idea is to prolong the inevitable as long as possible so they can bilk Trumptards for more “legal defense fund” donations.
Whiner-in-Chief needs to pack his shi*!
Just his orange jumpsuit.
Arizon too
Hasn’t the plan with these lawsuits always been to have trump and Mcconells hyper-partisan supreme court get the cases and hand trump the election?
At the end of the day, regardless of the venue, the suits alleging widespread counting irregularities simply have no merit. In Michigan for example, the claimants’ assertions, even with the 250 or so affidavits were easily refuted by election officials. These GOP election “challengers” failed to attend an October 29 training session. When they showed up after Election Day to observe the counting, they completely and fundamentally misunderstood the process and what was going on, as well as not following the election challenge resolution protocol as set by Michigan law. Therefore, the judge easily found the information contained in those hundreds of affidavits to be be irrelevant to the case. There is no doubt that any appellate court which will look at the same evidence and apply the same law would reach the same conclusions.
It is unclear whether the cases’ merits, or lack thereof, are a material issue. If the cases lacked merit, but contained enough votes and EVs to flip the election, I believe these courses would sail directly to SCOTUS and they would do the unthinkable. All of the positioning in 2020 pointed to that eventuality being enabled.
But of course, we presume innocence, unlike Trump does with regard to the 2020 election, so we will let the baby have his bottle.
I wouldn’t discount merit. The plaintiffs still have to show that some law was broken. There is just no evidence for that.
In case you missed it, I made significant additions to my last post.
Good however this election wasn’t about trade policy. It was merely about getting back to competent governance and the very existence of government again in America.
Trade policy has a great affect on the global economy. This is not an election website. It is a website about global economics. Politics do come up here, because they also have an impact on global economics.
Agree. I actually think Biden will co-opt some of Trump’s trade policies. Biden is the only candidate who didn’t think 100% of Trump’s policies were bad though he never admitted that publicly. The one thing Biden knows is that politicians lost in 2016 (not just Democrats) and there was a lesson there for all politicians as they had forgotten the American worker. Losing the Senate may not be the worst thing for the country (and I voted for Biden) from a policy standpoint.