Scathing Unanimous Decision
Please consider Trump’s Pennsylvania Appeal Rejected in Scathing Decision by His Own Appointee
“Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here,” 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals Justice Stephanos Bibas wrote in a 21-page opinion issued Friday.
The three-judge panel noted that the campaign’s grievances amounted to “nothing more” than allegations that Pennsylvania restricted poll watchers and let voters fix technical defects in their mail-in ballots.
“The Campaign tries to repackage these state-law claims as unconstitutional discrimination. Yet its allegations are vague and conclusory,” the opinion says. “It never alleges that anyone treated the Trump campaign or Trump votes worse than it treated the Biden campaign or Biden votes.”
The court said it would not issue an injunction to undo the certification because “the Campaign’s claims have no merit.”
“The number of ballots it specifically challenges is far smaller than the roughly 81,000-vote margin of victory. And it never claims fraud or that any votes were cast by illegal voters,” the court found.
“Voters, not lawyers, choose the President. Ballots, not briefs, decide election,” they wrote.
“The ballots here are governed by Pennsylvania election law. No federal law requires poll watchers or specifies where they must live or how close they may stand when votes are counted. Nor does federal law govern whether to count ballots with minor state-law defects or let voters cure those defects.
“Those are all issues of state law, not ones that we can hear. And earlier lawsuits have rejected those claims. Seeking to turn those state-law claims into federal ones, the Campaign claims discrimination. But its alchemy cannot transmute lead into gold.”
Expected Outcome
Anyone who seriously expected a different outcome has wormy oatmeal where brains belong.
There was no chance of a win.
It was foolish to even present the case because it let a panel of Republican-appointed judges blast the case sky high.
Deluged by Madness
My inbox is deluged with madness: What about this? What about that?
The questions and articles are all absurd.
Sworn Statements
The same people refuse to believe sworn statements against Judge Kavanaugh but are willing to believe obvious nonsense here.
Why?
It suits their purpose.
For the record, I believe the statements against Kavanaugh were lies and I believe the same here.
All we have is hearsay. No actual evidence was presented.
A Word About Statistics
Supposedly it was “impossible” for all these late ballots to be 90%+ for Biden.
In reality, this was the expected behavior and stated in advance of the election.
Absentee ballots could not be separated from the envelopes until after the election in many states. Republican legislatures purposely disallowed the process.
The result was a deluge of mail-in votes, overwhelmingly Democratic to start with, from overwhelmingly Democratic counties on top of it.
Once again, one has to have oatmeal where brains should be to actually believe these ballots represented fraud.
Voting Machines
Claims of voting machine tampering keep circulating. The fact remains (and I do mean fact) that if there was machine tampering, then it would have turned up in Georgia hand recounts.
It didn’t. There is only one logical conclusions: There was no machine tampering.
That is not the same as thing there was no fraud anywhere. There is fraud, a handful of votes here and there, in every election. Call it several thousand if you prefer.
But several thousand, even if all in one place, would not have changed a single state.
No Evidence of Fraud
There is no evidence, none, anywhere, of any fraud. Not only was there no evidence, Trump’s lawyers refused every time to allege fraud in court.
Let me repeat that so that it might sink in: Trump’s lawyers refused every time to allege fraud in court.
Publicly, team Trump charges fraud. In court they refuse to do so.
Why?
There are legal ramifications of lying to a judge.
Inside Story of Michigan’s Fake Voter Fraud Scandal
Politico has thorough coverage of the Inside Story of Michigan’s Fake Voter Fraud Scandal.
“We must not attempt to exercise power we simply don’t have,” declared Van Langevelde, a member of Michigan’s board of state canvassers, the ministerial body with sole authority to make official Joe Biden’s victory over Trump. “As John Adams once said, ‘We are a government of laws, not men.’ This board needs to adhere to that principle here today. This board must do its part to uphold the rule of law and comply with our legal duty to certify this election.”
Van Langevelde is a Republican. He works for Republicans in the Statehouse. He gives legal guidance to advance Republican causes and win Republican campaigns. As a Republican, his mandate for Monday’s hearing—handed down from the state party chair, the national party chair and the president himself—was straightforward. They wanted Michigan’s board of canvassers to delay certification of Biden’s victory.
“Anybody can sue anybody for any reason. But winning is a whole different matter. And Trump didn’t have a realistic pathway here,” Brian Calley, the former GOP lieutenant governor, told me prior to the certification vote.
No amount of @realdonaldtrump tweets or wild-eyed allegations from his lawyers or unhinged segments on One America News can change that.
But what they can change—where he can ultimately succeed—is in convincing unprecedented numbers of Americans that their votes didn’t count.The true insanity was saved for Detroit. By early afternoon on Wednesday, hundreds and hundreds of Republicans had descended on the TCF Center, responding to an all-hands-on-deck missive that went out from the state party and was disseminated by local officials. Cox, the party chair, tweeted out a video of her comrades standing outside the locked-up downtown building. “Republican poll challengers blocked from entering the TCF Center in Detroit! This is egregious!” she wrote.
Truly egregious was Cox’s dishonesty. At the time of her tweet, several hundred of her party’s poll challengers, attorneys and representatives were already inside the TCF Center monitoring the count. By law, Republicans were allowed to have 134 challengers in the room, one for each tabulation table. In reality, the GOP had far more than that, according to sworn testimony from nonpartisan poll watchers inside the TCF Center.
“The people outside that room were doing exactly what the law says you would eject people for doing—they were disrupting the election,” Thomas said. “Everyone else in the room—the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, the ACLU, the nonpartisans—they all still had a full complement of challengers in the room. And the Republicans, by the way, had far more challengers in the room than they were entitled to.”
As conspiracy theories proliferated across the right-wing information universe—Sharpie markers disenfranchising Trump voters in Arizona, a marked Biden/Harris van unloading boxes full of ballots in Nevada, suspicious turnout patterns in Wisconsin—Detroit held a special place in the president’s heart.
Trump alleged that Republicans had been “denied access to observe any counting in Detroit” and that the windows had been covered because “they didn’t want anybody seeing the counting.”
All of this was a lie. Republicans here—from Ronna Romney McDaniel to Laura Cox to federal and local lawmakers—knew it was a lie. But they didn’t lift a finger in protest as the president disparaged Michigan and subverted America’s democratic norms. Why?
There is little cause for optimism. If the majority of GOP politicians couldn’t be bothered to do the easy work of debunking crackpot conspiracy theories, how likely are they to do the hard work of hardening our democracy?
“A lot of our leaders in this country ought to be ashamed of themselves,” said Thomas, the nonpartisan elections guru who kept Michigan’s governing class guessing his political affiliation for the past several decades. “They have propagated this narrative of massive fraud, and it’s simply not true. They’ve leapt from some human error to massive fraud. It’s like a leap to Never Neverland. And people are believing them.”
Critical Thinking
A long-time reader today accused me of lack of critical thinking.
This same reader sent me crackpot theories about Venezuela, statististics, voting machines, poll watchers, and sworn statements.
He believes all of them, even the ridiculously wild claims of Attorney Sidney Powell.
This is despite the fact that Sidney Powell Fired was for Being Too Conspiratorial Even For Trump.
This is also despite the fact that Trump not once presented a case in court alleging fraud.
And it is also despite the fact Chris Christie Calls Trump’s Legal Team a National Embarrassment.
Critical thinking, where the hell is it?
Accurate Flashback Prediction
Bingo.
We saw the result today with the second scathing rebuke of Giuliani.
Supreme Court Thesis
My “critical thinking” reader also believes there is some sort of reasonable chance the Supreme Court will come flying in like SuperGirl teaming up with SuperMan Trump to preserve Truth, Justice, and the American way.
Indeed, many delusional people still believe the Supreme Court will save the day for Trump.
Amusingly, this is despite the second scathing rebuke of Rudy Giuliani and Team Trump by Appeals Courts.
Judge Disembowels Trump’s “Frankenstein” Pennsylvania Lawsuit
In case you missed it, please consider Judge Disembowels Trump’s “Frankenstein” Pennsylvania Lawsuit.
With these rebukes it is highly unlikely the Supreme Court will even hear these cases, let alone decide them for Trump.
I discussed this on November 24 in Universal Realization That Trump Lost the Election.
As I suggested all along, the Supreme Court is unlikely to even hear most of these cases if any at all … on the basis that the controversy does not make a difference in the ultimate result.
What I describe above is called denial of writ of certiorari because the case is moot, that is, the Supreme Court will refuse to take the case because decision will make no difference in the outcome of the election.
The fact remains Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia, and Nevada have all certified the election for Biden.
No court is going to overturn that.
Trump Cult Syndrome
Feel free to believe whatever delusions you want.
Just be aware that if you do, you have a clear case of Trump Cult Syndrome (TCS), belief in anything Trump says, no matter how preposterous or contradictory.
Mish
The world’s ruling elite select the President, not lawyers.
FIFY
Faked voters decided the election as faked workers(inmates) got unemployment benefits. California showed it. And, one Vietnamese American vote counter/examiner who took 50K to swap Trump’s votes to Biden’s got shot to death as the court appearance on Dec 02, 2020.
He decided to report to the authority about the illegal payment he git to swap votes, so he was shot to death. Check San Jose court fir his appearance on Dec 02, 2020 and the coroner office for his death record. The Vietnamese community knew the facts and reported the news on Facebook but got blocked!
trump is attempting to resurrect jim crow laws by disallowing hundreds of thousands of votes cast by blacks in Democratic cities Philadelphia, Detroit, Atlanta, Milwaukee and Madison. He initially had DeJoy sabotage postal equipment in black/democratic voting areas to prevent timely delivery of ballots. Nothing subtle about his racist strategy and campaign tactics appealing to Proud Boy types. The more this election is dissected the more evil will be found in this profoundly flawed person.
I have squandered my resistance
For a pocket full of mumbles
Such are promises
All lies and jests
Still a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest
I think the Kavanaugh analogy is a poor one. A sworn statement about an incident 35 years ago where the person swearing (1) can’t even give a specific day or event and (2) has a clear political motive is FAR different than attesting to a crime that happened a few weeks ago and is being made by some people who are democrats – the opposite party of Trump.
I’m shocked at how far Mishs standards have fallen over the last year. If he thinks that sending out hundreds of thousands of ballots that were NOT requested and don’t require any sig matching (PA) doesn’t lead to massive fraud, he’s being deliberately obtuse and is suffering TDS himself. I lived in Chicago for 15 years and ran for office three times as a libertarian. If you think Machine politics and fraud don’t exist in big dem cities, I seriously question your IQ. Mish HIMSELF lived in Illinois forever and watched it happen. He’s either deluded himself or sold his website to someone who has
What you saw in PA were hundreds of thousands of unrequested APPLICATIONS for an absentee ballot sent out to potential voters–not an actual absentee ballot.
These APPLICATION forms were sent out by a variety of groups, left, right and center.
They were not ballots. It is entirely legal for interest groups to send out these APPLICATIONS for an absentee ballot.
An actual ballot would be sent out from the PA election authorities if a legal voter returned the APPLICATION and the right to vote was confirmed.
Once again, what was sent were mass mailings of an APPLICATION form for an absentee ballot–NOT an actual ballot. A legal mailing by a third party, but not a guarantee of access to a ballot.
It’s like the mailings from Publishers Clearing House–just because they send you a letter, it doesn’t mean you’ve won. It’s just an application for the possibility of winning.
Don’t be so low-information.
You dislike Trump, believe we get that. What about the Great Reset?
Maybe the weirdness lies in you
Most of his “curiosities” aren’t curiosities at all, they’re either easily explainable in the context of this election or are just plain wrong. For example, in his #8 he repeats the same lie Diaper Don retweeted I mentioned in my message five posts above.
Utter tripe.
Just look up Basham – it only takes a second – and you get a complete background of partisan stupidity. It’s not like he made his decision and wrote this article after the election – there is plenty of garbage published by him before the election.
And just to be clear – he offers no actual evidence for his support of fraud allegations. It’s just a list of garbage that we’ve all heard from the former president and his cultist members.
LOL
” Patrick Basham, is actually a tobacco industry apologist who was accused of faking his academic history in the British Medical Journal. After Basham wrote a piece in the BMJ downplaying the obesity epidemic, a British professor responded in the journal saying that Basham had never received a PhD from Cambridge University as he had claimed. Basham, who was once an adjunct scholar at the libertarian Cato Institute, has recently been writing for the British tabloid the Sunday Express. The director of the little-known Democracy Institute—which says it is based in Washington, D.C., and London—claimed before the election that Trump would win in a landslide. On Sunday, Basham claimed in his latest column that widespread fraud was the only reasonable explanation for why his outlandish prediction had proven to be so badly wrong.”
I think everyone just needs to buy a few pounds of Au and Ag instead of complaining about Biden.
A few pounds of AU would be quite a lot
The Fed is “loaning” another $2,000,000,000 to the State Of Illinois via the Municipal Liquidity Facility (MLF, not to be confused with a MILF). Enough already! We need President Joe to send the full $200,000,000,000 with no strings to bailout all the state, muni and teachers government pension funds.
200B is not enough to bail out all public pensions, multiply a factor of 10 minimum.
When ‘Whataboutism’ and TCS’ join, any thing is possible including Earth is flat. It is beyond hopeless!
It is interesting the creepy-crawly things of conspiracy therorists that come out when you turn over the rocks of the election and the pandemic.
A computer guy who confuses vote totals in Minnesota with votes in Michigan is the “bedrock” of the current crop of crazies and the kraken suit in Georgia.
The problems with his affadavit…
Lawyer-twitter: if you rely on an expert to support your litigation claims, make sure he [in this case] is qualified, AND that his conclusions are based on the facts of your case. 1/17
In the recent Georgia lawsuit (Case 1:20-cv-04651-SDG), plaintiffs filed an from Russell Ramsland, who claims to be an expert on cyber security. 2/17
The affidavit was intended to support plaintiff’s claims of voting irregularities in Georgia. 3/17
There are some problems with the affidavit that make it untrustworthy. 4/17
First, the affidavit cites alleged anomalies in Michigan, not Georgia. 5/17
Second, Ramsland concludes “at least 19 precincts where the Presidential Votes Cast compared to the Estimated Voters based on Reported Statistics exceeded 100%.” (¶ 11). He provided neither the # of votes cast or # voters. 6/17
Ramsland claims to use data “obtained from the Michigan Secretary of State” but it is not clear what data; it certainly wasn’t the precinct names.7/17
A fact check with the Wayne Co clerk’s records, had he done it, would have confirmed the names in ¶ 11 are not precincts in Michigan. 8/17)
The Michigan Townships Association database shows the twps identified are not in Michigan; every one of the “Precinct townships” in ¶11 are in Minnesota, not Michigan. (Yes, both start with M, & both are in the upper Midwest, but they are, in fact, different states.) 9/17
Worse, the Minnesota townships ID’d ¶11 are not even all in the same county: Benville Twp is in Beltrami Co; Bradford Twp is in Isanti Co; Kandiyohi & Lake Lillian Twps are in Kandiyohi Co; 10/17
Hokah & Houston Twps are in Houston, County; Brownsville & Champion are Twps in Wilkin County. & Etc. Minnesota. Not Michigan. 11/17
Third, the basis of his Wayne Co. (¶17) conclusions are demonstrably wrong. Ramsland stated “46 out of 47 precincts/townships display a highly unlikely 96%+ as the number of votes cast, using the Secretary of State’s number of voters in the precinct/township; 12/17
“and 25 of those 47 precincts/townships show 100% turnout.” Wayne Co. has more than 47 “precincts/townships”: The official results reported by the Wayne County Clerk shows the City of Detroit alone has 503 precincts. 13/17
He calculated the turnout percentage by comparing the # of registered voters in 25 precincts to the # of votes cast in 25 named precincts, none of which are in Michigan. At least 3 – Detroit Lakes, Walworth, and Frazee are in Minnesota. Not Michigan. 14/17
because he apparently compared the number of Michigan registered voters to Minnesota vote totals (apples to oranges), or vice versa, he could not have “reliably applied the principles and methods to the facts of the case” as required by FR 702. 15/17
In short, the “anomalies” Ramsland flags rely on incorrect data: comparing one state’s registered voters to another state’s vote totals resulted in invalid conclusions. 16/17
TL;DR: When you use an expert in litigation, make sure their conclusions are based on relevant facts you can confirm. fin
Where are those from?
Link?
Thanks
Mish just wanted to say I have been reading you for 13 years now and I have always admired what you have to say. I have been gratified to see you be willing to admit the ridiculousness of trump when before you were at least a lukewarm supporter. This reflects very well on your critical thinking skills. Not that you now dislike Trump just that you were willing to reconsider and to so publically.
Just curious going back to 2016 would you have still preferred Trump over Clinton?
‘Whataboutism’ is a sorry excuse to question the past!
I answered that question already somewhere.
There are pros and cons and I listed some, concluding “I Don’t know what would have happened”.
Diaper Don just will not stop lying. Just randomly checking his tweeter feed… The latest item is the following:
Which is just another blatant lie:
Just how some people think this is acceptable behavior from a leader of a nation (well, one which considers itself an advanced democracy anyway) is beyond me.
What do we want in a president? Seems like anyone who might be good at the job gets weeded out during the primary. The real scandal is despite the incredible amount of water-carrying for Biden the popular vote was this close. This should have been a Carter vs Reagan result.
Former Pfizer VP: ‘No need for vaccines,’ ‘the pandemic is effectively over’ https://www.lifesitenews.com/mobile/news/former-pfizer-vp-no-need-for-vaccines-the-pandemic-is-effectively-over
take this spam down.
WHY?
The headline from its page today:
Tsunami of voter fraud evidence is about to sweep away media’s claim that Biden won
The simple fact is that the only way we will no that the pandemic is “effectively over” is when we see cases start to fall. In North Dakota, they “may” be starting to fall, now that cases have hit 10%. That would be consistent with a portion of the population having some immunity, and with a fairly large number of cases that are undetected to go with those detected.
On the other hand, I put “may” in quotes because it may indicate nothing of the sort. Cases can and do also fall due to non-pharmaceutical interventions. It is reasonable to believe that, with cases exploding, and hospitals full, people are more apt to stay home and limit exposure even in the absence of a lockdown. Thus, the early signs are that cases may be falling, but it will take a few more weeks to see where it goes from here.
Meanwhile, in tiny Clay County, Nebraska, cases have finally started to fall, now that 59% of people have tested positive. Perhaps there is something unusual about that country, but if not, and they are a correct indicator, even states like North Dakota are far, far from seeing cases go down permanently, and the pandemic is not “effectively over”.
There will be head fakes along the way, where we think things are getting better, only to have them get worse again. Someday it will be over, but we may not know when that is until is actually happens.
Whether Democrats or Republicans, the Establishment, demure, politically and socially correct as they are (or what they smugly think of themselves) want Trump out of the way, that’s all !
the professional class despises incompetence
Well, if what you say is true, the Establishment has evidently failed, hasn’t it!
Has it ? Trump’s a goner ! ….soon anyway…
Well as noted above, its not over until the fat lady sings. And she hasn’t sung yet.
She’ singing as I type this.
The US seems so divided on this issue, that UNLESS this goes to the highest authority in the land (as I understand it) and UNLESS they make a strong pronouncement one way or the other, the nation will remain divided. I would like to think that if the Supreme Court, having looked at all the angles, comes down heavily in Biden’s favour, then the Trump supporters would at least accept the situation and albeit with reluctance will move on. I do have faith in human nature.
We’ve seen it here in the UK with Brexit where the early groundswell in favour of ‘remain’ and who initially kicked up a monumental fuss are now largely resigned to the situation. That was thanks in part to a couple of subsequent elections that gave the leave campaign a strong mandate. Not to say that there are not die-hards, but their voice is now very weak.
I honestly think that is the only way this situation is going to be resolved with any degree of certainty. A strong Supreme Court ruling. At the moment, Biden’s task – should his status indeed become confirmed – is utterly hopeless. And if the Supreme Court ducks out, the situation will only become worse. Courteously, HV.
You don’t understand how the SCOTUS works. It has rules so that it does not need to spend time hearing BS like this. This clue is in the article above, writ of certiorari. The court can’t hear the 7000+ cases per year appealed to it. Not hearing the case is the same as the court saying “You case is not even wrong”.
“Typically, the Court hears cases that have been decided in either an appropriate U.S. Court of Appeals or the highest Court in a given state (if the state court decided a Constitutional issue). The Supreme Court has its own set of rules. According to these rules, four of the nine Justices must vote to accept a case.”
https://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/educational-resources/about-educational-outreach/activity-resources/supreme-1#:~:text=Typically%2C%20the%20Court%20hears%20cases,vote%20to%20accept%20a%20case.
Lance – with respect, that isn’t the point. I know there are rules. I know they don’t have to listen to every case. I am well aware Trump’s claims are claimed by many to be bullshit. Maybe they are, but many millions think not. So unless you have an authority, equal as or greater than the sum of your other two branches of government willing to deliver a ruling that a significant part of the aggrieved party (whichever it may be) will buy into, this dispute is simply going to go on and on and on and on for ever.
The Third Circuit already called BS on this one. The SCOTUS denying the hearing is the ultimate ruling by the Judicial Branch. The briefs did not make a plausible case.
And thereby ‘dismissing’ 75m (maybe more) very angry fellow citizens with utter contempt will get you exactly … where?
So, I get it, you are seeing thing from the other side of the pond. At this point other than the QAnon, white supremists, and ZH wackos everyone else has moved on. The appeals court was unanimous. I tried to tell you that this is how the US court system works. The guy that wrote the opinion:
“On June 19, 2017, Donald J Trump nominated Bibas to serve as a United States Circuit Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit”
Hi Mish. After 4, 8, 12 or even 16 years of the Biden-Harris administrations would you move back to the Chicago area, figuring everything there will be better without President Orange Hitler?
Voter integrity was not included in choosing US President.
Fraud, cheat work for prisoners who got 50K unemployment benefits when
they could apply via mail. So were votes !
And my grandmother could take up hip hop if she wanted to.
And I could drive into a brick wall if I wanted to.
And my neighbor’s dog could stop incessantly barking if it wanted to.
A lot of things CAN happen but what matter is what actually DID happen. That’s the difference between speculation and reality.
There you sit in your parents’ basement.
Shaking with rage at the results of an “unfair” election.
Trembling in fear waiting for the George Soros-funded UN Agenda-21 troops to come in their black helicopters to haul you off to a FEMA reëducation camp where you will be implanted with a Bill Gates’ monitoring chip.
Crying in despair knowing that Q has been captured and now languishes in a secret CIA prison in Kazakhstan.
Thanks for that made me laugh!
Cheat, fraud chose President ! easy as prisoners could get unemployment benefits !
MSNBC contributor – nuff said.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CIHeRxJHkjV/?igshid=1qbpbr4g6ky8r
This may be another reason why Rudy has worked so hard to take down Joe Biden
Giuliani is “probably the most underqualified man since George Bush to seek the presidency,” he says. Rudy Giuliani – there’s only three things he [needs] to make … a sentence: a noun and a verb and 9/11. -Joe Biden
I think what you may be dismissing is the facade of impartiality in the Supreme Court has been removed and it is now as political as the other 2 branches. This could be decided on a strictly political, not legal, basis. Sad.
All great lawyers lose in the lower courts as a way of getting to the Supreme Court. They also hide their evidence until the final case. Come on! This is law school 101
I really hope that comment was deeply soaked in sarcasm. If so, it was a good one.
Where to start, I’m just debunking here for the sake of it:
“The fact remains (and I do mean fact) that if there was machine tampering, then it would have turned up in Georgia hand recounts.”
It’s not that simple, tampering with the machines can also be used to hide or fit other activity, for example.
Here is a critical look at possible exploits
and they have a latest article on mismatch of mailed out vs mailed in, might be dud or not.
Similar questions at
90% vote from certain regions by mail, what ghettos or something ? If the votes were first sorted and added together later then maybe, but I really don’t think so… who knows.
” He can’t change the result, but he’s going to get wilder as he becomes increasingly more desperate.” … I mean we’ve had several years of hearing this.
Supreme court, who knows – it depends on the quality of the evidence.
Voters decide not lawyers – obviously, but lawyers present facts to courts which decide if voters had decided, or if they have found evidence of fraud.
Anda that is bullshit.
There is no manipulation of tallies if a hand count matches.
Exactly. Anda clearly does not understand how the legal system works. Speculative “evidence” that voting systems “could” be rigged from so called “expert” witnesses willing to testify via hearsay affidavit with no actual evidence of irregularity at the scale that would affect the final outcome is not prima facie evidence of election irregularity, and hence not sufficient to support an injunction….accordingly if that is all you have to go on, your case will be dismissed out of hand. The fact is hand counts have confirmed the machine counts and hence no actual fraud has been shown (but of course to the true believers, the hand counts were rigged too…you can’t fix fanaticism).
Apparently Trump will appeal this to the Supreme Court. I have faith in the Justices to art in an impartial matter, and decide the case based on the merits. The best possible scenario would be a swift 9-0 decision. That would go a long way towards restoring the faith of the people in the independence of the court.
You have faith in a court that say corporations – a legal construct – are people?
Are you delusional 100% of the time or 1,000% of the time?
The best decision is not to hear the case. It has no merit to take up the time of the court.
Deny the Writ. No Constitutional matter is at issue. That is far more damning than a 9-0 decision against, though it may be emotionally less satisfying.
I predict it won’t even get heard. The Supreme Court will not be a joke of by Trump or his minions.
Good job. The CLEAR FACT NONE OF TRUMP’S LAWYERS WILL ARGUE THERE WAS ANY FRAUD IN COURT IS PRIMA FACIA EVIDENCE HE’S FULL OF BS. Full stop.
Turn off the life support on TCS people, they’re wasting valuable electricity as a pulse does not mean the brain is alive.
Donors, not voters, choose the candidates.
Excellent article, Mish. I do agree with your writer on one point: there is a lack of critical thinking out there. It doesn’t take much critical thought to reach the conclusion that if Trump had evidence of fraud, he would have presented it, and the fact that he hasn’t presented any evidence is de facto proof that he has no evidence of fraud.
Had Trump shown evidence of fraud, we would have all wanted to see it considered. No one wants to see fraud. However, he didn’t have any evidence of fraud, so I will side with those saying that this was the most secure election in history.
Trump was/is just dumb enough to think that the Republican judges would be as partisan as the Senate was when they voted along party lines to not impeach him, in the face of decent evidence that he was guilty.
But sitting judges, thankfully, are not all as willing to trade their ethics and their duty to curry favor with a sitting president. Part of that is the nature of the judicial appointment….they are not running for office.
I wouldn’t say it’s impossible to subvert the US federal judiciary…..but federal judges don’t serve at the whim of the president the way an AG does….
I’d say Sydney Powell thinks the same way as Trump….she just hopes she’ll get a sympathetic judge in Georgia state court who will rule for her because Republicans all need to stick together and screw the Democrats because……that’s the program, after all.
Trump will go at some point. Even he can see now that it isn’t going to work……just because he didn’t like the election results, they aren’t going to be overturned….
We are fortunate that he isn’t getting four more years….because in that time frame he might come up with some better scam to make himself President-for-Life….which is obviously what he’d like to accomplish.
First let me say I think overturning the election is a long shot at best. I’m also not delusional, I just disagree on the quality of the witnesses in this case vs. Kavanaugh.
Could it be just a cynical attempt to get back at the media and the Democrats for 4 years of all the major media outlets screaming about Russia collusion, the Mueller report and various other nonsense? Absolutely.
With regard to critical thinking, we should clear up a couple of talking points that are being circulated on the Curated News Networks. The Trump team only has 3 or 4 lawsuits. I believe it was Guliani that said the rest weren’t brought by them and were dismissed for lack of standing. Those lawsuits were brought out of sheer stupidity or possibly were an attempt to increase someone’s social media profile. (See the idiot congressman that claims he is filing lawsuits in a bunch of states to get the Trump team disbarred.) So the 30 to 2 rational is just simply wrong. Gore vs. Bush had to be rejected at the lower courts since that’s the only way it could have gotten to the Supreme Court. Don’t take a judges ruling from a lower court as evidence that there is no case to be made. Don’t think that judges aren’t immune to public pressure especially when punting the case is so much less risky in terms of public blow back from the media.
I also keep hearing there is no evidence. I’m attaching a link to an affidavit from Russel James Ramsland Jr. This guy is no Julie Swetnick. (Remember her?) He has serious credentials and testifies to some serious statistical anomalies that have nothing to do with the percentage of mail-in ballots that went for Biden.
Votes were allocated in partial votes. This could only mean that an algorithm was operating on the data. Don’t take my word for it read it for yourself.
Votes were added faster than the machine could process them. The machine looks like a standard office copier that has a typical paper feeder on it. The scan speed for the device was listed as 60 impressions per minute or 3600 per hour. The votes were being added way faster than the scan speed of the device.
Precincts had higher turnout that registered voters.
The link is below.
Wow, Russell is a freaking genius. So knowledgeable. Now if he could only figure out the difference between MN and MI.
“The affidavit was filed by Russell James Ramsland, Jr., of Allied Security Operations Group, a Dallas-area firm that does cybersecurity work and lists a number of precincts as purportedly seeing anomalously high numbers of votes. But those precincts—including distinctively named ones like Monticello P-1—appear to be located in Minnesota, not Michigan.”
Needed to add link https://www.fastcompany.com/90578730/trump-supporter-election-lawsuit-affidavit-seems-to-mix-up-michigan-and-minnesota
You didn’t read the affidavit that was included in the link. I looked at the link you provided and the precincts are different and so are the affidavits. Look at the document numbers at the top of page, they clearly have different indexes. How do you explain the difference. It’s probably a clerical error in the document that was originally filed. Critical thinkers realize people make mistakes ALL of the time especially when they’re rushing to file documents in various jurisdictions. Your effort to cast doubt on what Ramsland said demonstrates your own confirmation bias. You WANT to believe there was no voter fraud, as soon as you found the evidence you were looking for you stopped looking any further. So maybe Russel isn’t as dumb as you think. P.S. He may have validated the data but I would bet money he didn’t write the affidavit.
…allegations are vague and conclusory….
The kraken lawsuits in Georgia and Michigan by Sidney Powell will be dismissed for exactly the same reason.
The same bunch of conspiracy stupidity (based on redacted interviews), unrecognized “authorities”, and hearsay evidence from people loosely connected to ballot processing–all vague and seriously lacking in solid evidence of anything, but, for their purposes, justifying the over-turning of an election.
Saying something is true, doesn’t make it so.
There are way, way too many insane people on the loose in this country.
Van Langevelde is the decisive hero of the election. Had more moral fortitude, conviction and courage than any Senate Republican. He recognized his role , its importance and honored it.
It was his action that precipitated GSA Emily certifying the transition so Biden could get GSA funds, begin clearance. meet Whitehouse staff and be ready for January 20th. Trump just rolled over after that
Van Langevelde, and also the Federal judges. The judiciary was intended to be a separate branch. Even though nominated by the executive branch, and confirmed by the legislative branch, it is beholden to neither. In this race it is standing up, and deciding cases based solely on the evidence and the law. Good for them.
Which judge, case? I’ve heard the case be made and while their role was certainly important mo case or decision resulted in GSA Emily signing off in my view
So it’s come to this — doing one’s job and following the law is heroic?
pretty much where we are.
This may be another reason why Rudy has worked so hard to take down Joe Biden
Giuliani is “probably the most underqualified man since George Bush to seek the presidency,” he says. Rudy Giuliani – there’s only three things he [needs] to make … a sentence: a noun and a verb and 9/11. -Joe Biden
Doing one’s job in the face of partisan pressure, yes. In the case of Van Langevelde, he will most likely lose his position and many of his clients because he did the right thing.
Well if you lie down with dogs, you get fleas. Van Langevelde isn’t any more flea-repellent than anyone else.
There is nothing wrong with the vast majority of Republicans. They just have been taken over by a great evil at the moment. Whether that evil leaves behind a lasting legacy remains to be seen.
The general body of Republicans had the power to eliminate or at least mute the damage that Trump was doing. They just had to stand up as a group and say ‘no’ to some of the most egregious BS that he was pulling.
They did nothing. They deserve the contempt many of us NOW have for them.
I’m angry because I have always thought of myself as independent – more than willing to vote for either party and for any candidate that I thought was appropriate. I cannot, in good conscience, do that anymore. The fact that half our country thinks that a rising stock market and the permission to be a racist in public forgives everything Trump has done and stood for is scary for this country.
Ok, hate the sin, not the sinner. I get it. Then the Republican Party needs to reorganize and have a platform besides Trump Cult and its attendant nihilism.
But if this goes on too long, alas, the sinners will have proved unrepentant.
In addition to failing to prove fraud or even allege it in court Trump is on a fool’s mission to challenge the voting rules. That ship has long sailed. There’s an important decision known as Purcell which says voters have a right to know what the rules are and the time to challenge rules is before an election. Finally judges do not like to nullify votes or disenfranchisement voters
Mish, I agree with you on most things but you can’t go against statistics. This election was cooked.
If there was proof it should have been presented to a judge instead of seeing 30 court losses. There is no proof of fraud, certainly none that meets the burden of proof.
Gee, for months, Biden had been polling ahead of Trump-Biden voters were as motivated as Trump voters, Biden voters were overwhelmingly likely to vote early and Trump people were more likely to vote in person.
On those items, Biden was quite likely to win.
But that was in a reality-based reality.
Not sure what your sources are.
From October in Politico…what was so unlikely about the outcome…
Several states that were once considered reaches for Democrats look viable and Midwestern battleground states have generally given Biden a durable lead, fueling a rare good mood in the party known for handwringing.
“There has been a lot more consistency and a lot less volatility to the polling in 2020 than 2016. Joe Biden has had a 4-5 point lead [in Wisconsin] since I think May,” said Sen. Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.), who handily won reelection in 2018.
“Four years ago at this point I told people that Hillary was going to lose Michigan, I knew it in my gut. Now I think Michigan is competitive,” said Rep. Debbie Dingell (D-Mich.).
“I feel stronger about that than I did then,” the Ohio Democrat said in an interview, touting his state’s party infrastructure. “This culture of corruption coupled with Trump’s betrayal of workers says we win Ohio. Win Ohio, we certainly win Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, right? … Ohio with those three is close to an Electoral College landslide and it will feel that way.”
Certainly Brown is more confident than many Democrats still scarred from Hillary Clinton’s surprise loss in 2016. But it turns out that more and more Democrats are coming along to his sunny view of things as the election creeps ever-closer.
There’s lies, damn lies, statistics … and the crap that spews forth from Calcutz.
as I figured – can’t produce machines to VERIFY FRAUD PERPETRATED ON MERICAN VOTERS
so courts use LAME AS EXCUSE – FIX IS IN
ILLEGITIMATE JOE and HOE
so sorry but I for one will not be participating in their charade and will go out of my way to stick it to woke folks – HIGHER RENTS FOR EVERYONE or on streets you go
Mish: you have a typo- “The fact remains Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia, and Nevada have all certified the election for Trump.”
I think you meant Biden.
Of course, the TCSers will claim this as just another proof the election was stolen from the Orange man.
[Mish Note: Thanks Much. Fixed]
Thanks – Fixed
There’s another Pennsylvania case that should get settled today. The one that hit Wednesday. I fully expect Trump’s side loses but still looking for it
From what I’ve read on ZH and other places, the central issue seems to be a disbelief that anyone could vote for Biden, let alone 80M people. What they’re not considering is that many of those voters probably disliked Trump more than they thought Biden was a good candidate.
The MAGA crowd spent the last few years in an echo chamber (like most people do today, unfortunately) so they can’t fathom seeing Biden as a lesser evil. They’ve lost touch with a lot of the country, much like ivory tower elites on the coasts lost touch with them.
They’re in total denial, so Sidney Powell has to be correct. Anyone who gets in her way, like Tucker, has to be thrown overboard. They should have accepted their rude awakening three weeks ago, but instead this will continue until January. Even after the electoral college votes for Biden on 12/14, they’ll still be promoting fantasies that Trump won’t vacate on 1/20. Even after that, I’m sure there will be predictions that Trump will be back any day, like Napoleon’s return from Elba.
They didn’t vote for Biden. They voted against trump.
Exactly what I did.
That’s an awful thought, that we would have to depend on the Armed Forces to remove Trump. I hope they are wrong, and it doesn’t come to that. If it does, surely Trump would be tried for Treason. We are already too divided as a country. We don’t need this at all.
I’m starting to think that Rudy isn’t a particularly good lawyer
A lot, and I mean A LOT of good people and American heroes died on 9/11, but Rudy Giuliani, and Donald Trump for that matter, did not. What an unjust world.
This may be yet another reason why Rudy working so hard to take down Joe Biden.
Giuliani is “probably the most underqualified man since George Bush to seek the presidency,” he says. Rudy Giuliani – there’s only three things he [needs] to make … a sentence: a noun and a verb and 9/11. -Joe Biden