Trump’s Claim
President Trump told his crowd in Ohio that COVID-19 ‘affects virtually no one’ except older Americans and those with pre-existing conditions as death toll nears 200,000 .
“Take your hat off to the young people because they have a hell of a immune system,” Trump told the cheering crowd.
“In some states nobody is young. They have a strong immune system – who knows. Take off the hats off to the kids because they have a hell of a immune system. It hardly affects anyone ‘
“Now we know it affects the elderly. Elderly people with heart problems and other problems. If they have other issues, that’s what it really affects. That’s it, ”Trump said.
The above is from Trump says Ohio COVID-19 campaign rally “hardly affects anyone,” but the elderly
First Question of the Day
Does this mean we stop worrying about the elderly, especially recklessly careless elderly like Trump?
Tweet of the Day
25 Positive Associated With Trump
- Donald Trump
- Melania Trump
- Bill Stepien, Trump CM
- Trump Senior Aide Hope Hicks
- Former White House counselor Kellyanne Conway
- Former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie
- Utah Sen Mike Lee
- N.C. Sen Thom Tillis
- Wisconsin Sen Ron Johnson
- RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel
- John Jenkins, Notre Dame president
- 3 White House reporters
- 11 Cleveland debate staff
Second Question of the Day
Are those people “virtually nobody” or are they just too old to matter?
Total Dead
The total number of dead in the US from Covid is 213,861.
Third and Fourth Questions of the Day
Were they all old? What about lasting damage to those who recover?
Bonus Question
When does Trump apologize to the nation for his reckless behavior?
I believe we all know the answer to that one.
Mish
If our ancestors had responded to every infectious disease the way we’re responding to this one we’d still be living in caves.
just as soon as joe joe biden apologize for being corrupt and taking bribes
now we have timeline mish
Bravado aside. Trump was clearly panicked.
“Before being taken to Walter Reed Trump kept asking aides: ‘Am I going out like Stan Chera? Am I?’”
My question is what exactly should his apology cover? He is 74 and therefore elderly and so he falls into the categories mentioned – that he caught it is consistent with that. How about the others? How seriously are they affected? There is much mention about numbers of infected but how do they compare with deaths? How about the counting of deaths? how is it being determined as a covid death in the first place? We have two family friends who have had family members die in the past half year of chronic heart ailments. When they saw the reports they were each listed as covid deaths. Let’s not forget that the CARES act increases hospital reimbursements for covid by 20%. Of course if you claim that the medical establishment might be corrupt enough to increase their profit everyone clutches their pearls and pretends like doctors are somehow above human frailties such as greed.
The Covid fear emptied many hospitals from other patients so of course they are listing every death that had Covid as a Covid death to get the extra 20% in money because it was a “Covid death” so Republicans/Trump themselves created the incentive for hospitals to report massive “Covid deaths” by passing CARES act with that kind of incentive to do it.
Many have been listed as “covid deaths” despite NOT having the test done just based on symptoms they had in addition to the heart, liver, lung etc comorbidities that caused the death together with either flu or Covid.
Only way to stop the racket would be to send FBI to investigate hospitals and charge those for FRAUD who wrote “Covid” as a reason for death when people had 2-5 other comorbidities.
Hospitals that have Doctors that come to say Hello every morning and charge 400 dollars for each hello or lots more if the Doctor is “out of network” have absolutely no moral obstacle to list everyone dying as a covid death.
Ha! ‘Trump’ and ‘apologize’ don’t belong in the same sentence. Has he ever apologized for anything in his entire life?
Trump apologized for the Access Hollywood tape and looked really actually sorry while doing it.
Fact check: True!
I stand corrected. Trying to find a 2nd apology on record, but can’t find one…
“When Does Trump Apologize to the Nation for His Reckless Behavior?”
Right after the entire Republican and Democratic Parties apologize for the War in Iraq
I guess what I am saying is no matter what Trump or anyone else could would or might have done, makes any difference.
Nonsense. South Korea managed the pandemic extremely well. New Zealand practically eradicated it.
The US is #1 in most covid cases in the entire world, and #1 in covid fatalities in the entire world.
The US is #1 in covid cases and #1 in covid fatalities.
A lot of people have died WITH covid. Not very many have died from it. What I mean by that is roughly 10X the number of confirmed cases exist. This has been confirmed by antibody testing in several places meaning the virus is even less deadly. I work in close contact and meet 40 to 50 people a day still haven’t caught it. Futher more I know nobody first hand who has.
Also look at Sweden no lockdown. No mask mandate. No shutting out tourism. Roughly the same results as countries that did, and even better than us.
Look this thing is so infectious that anyone who is going to get it will or has. Most will not even know they had it. Even those that get sick rarely need hospitalization. The ones who die would most likely have died within the year regardless.
I’m praying for Trump’s death, but since I don’t believe in God it shouldn’t have any effect.
Karma can be a bioch
200,000 deaths vs estimates of 2 million back in March. For sure 200K is bad, but far better than 2 million.
Just 6% of those who were counted as Covid deaths had Covid as the sole cause per CDC.
Others had on average 2.6 serious comorbidities like heart problems, liver, problems, kidney problems, cancer, morbid overweight, lung problems already before getting Covid and Covid was just the final nail in the coffin.
Media has been really silent about these CDC stats and only alternative/right-wing media’s have reported this truth:
Yes, that’s correct. About 6% of the Covid deaths had death certificates filled out incorrectly which only listed Covid. Obviously, Covid doesn’t kill that way, and should never be listed as the sole cause of death. Covid kills indirectly, by triggering pneumonia, ARDS, Kidney failure, Heart attacks, stroke, and other things. On a properly filled out death certificate, the direct cause of death should be listed first, and covid should be listed as well. Apparently 94% of death certificates were filled out properly.
If you believe that only 9,000 people died of Covid, FactsonJoe, you must be stupider than I thought, a lot stupider than I thought.
“When Does Trump Apologize to the Nation for His Reckless Behavior?”
Never.
He never apologizes.
He sees it as a sign of weakness.
Trump apologized for the Access Hollywood tape.
Thanks for reminding us!
Here in Colorado we know the Doomsday planes are in the air. The weather is great (wish for rain), so any excuse to launch.
When does he apologize? Right after every Democrat leader who is supporting the violence, looting and rioting apologizes and works to lock up BLM and Antifa and their financial supporters.
Didn’t you hear?
“Stand back and stand by”
Russian bot doing Putin’s work. Traitor.
Mish is full of shit. He’s all in for Biden and the socialists.
It’s impossible to feel sorry for people who don’t take routine precautions to protect themselves or those around them. That doesn’t mean I want them to die, though it’s very possible that some will. In fact, I do hope they all recover. It does mean that I hope they learn something in the process.
Similarly, if Pence gets it, too, and we end up with President Pelosi, it will be exceptionally fitting. In my company, you will almost never find myself and my co-manager in the building at the same time, much less in the same room, and we are a tiny company. What sort of lunatics would have the President and Vice President together, with no masks?
It is especially difficult for me to understand why some of these people, especially ones who are seriously overweight, have no concern for their own health. Christie, for example, may well have a rough time with Covid. It isn’t just at the national level. I have a customer who is very obese. He runs a hardware store that sells masks. He absolutely refuses to wear one. I will be surprised if he is still with us a year from now.
Getting back to Mish’s question, will Trump apologize? It’s hard to know. If he recovers easily, and completely, it obviously won’t happen. If he has a long and difficult struggle, or if he has a loss of function, he may emerge less healthy, but wiser.
There are national security issues with this type of behavior….
The chain of succession…
Vice President Pence
Speaker of the House of Representatives Pelosi
President pro tempore of the Senate Grassley
Secretary of State Pompeo
Secretary of the Treasury Mnuchin
Secretary of Defense Esper
Attorney General Barr
How many of these were exposed since the Rose Garden event?
Politics over country.
Yeah national security risk. I would have liked to see there faces when they figured out Nancy was after pence. Would not be surprised if pence is going to work sick
Accuse me of being a liberal when I have not voted for a Democratic for President for decades and I did vote for Trump in 2016 will immediately have every comment you ever made instantly deleted.
That just happened.
Good for you Mish. Pragmatists are always misread.
You can do that? Well you must not be a classical liberal then if you can expunge free speech so readily.
It’s his blog, he can do whatever he wants, welcome to the free market.
I just did my mail in vote for Jo today, so I’m now fully spectator. I pay lot in taxes, so I expect a lot in entertainment from my government because that seems to be about all I get. I did actually make popcorn for the last debate and will be bummed if we don’t get two more debates with Mr. T.
The “get out of here, lib” accusation goes with the recent conversion of the Republican Party from the “Big Tent Party” of Ronald Reagan to the “Tiny Tent Party” of today. Once everyone was welcomed to the party, and differences of opinion were debated and settled internally. Now, only mindless drones are welcome. The “Big Tent Party” won landslide victories. How will the “Tiny Tent Party” do?
The GOP under Trump has become a cult increasingly detached from reality. Break with the cult, you must be a liberal. Dissent is not allowed within the cult.
Everyone there was well informed about protecting themselves, and could have chosen to stay home. The young were well justified to attend. If Trump bounces back, his mask wearing days (so few) are over. Others will look weak (Biden).
The only thing is that almost everyone there was on the government payroll.
Fiscal responsibility?
National security?
Damn it all, let’s just own the libs.
what happens to a person who internationally spreads the HIV virus?
it is a crime. intentionally spreading STD’s is a crime (and can subject you to civil action). emphasis on the word “intentional”.
Man accused of trying to spread coronavirus at Michigan grocery store could face domestic terrorism charge