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China Seeks Ways to Avoid US Sanctions But a Deadly Embrace Complicates Matters

China seeks to protect its currency reserves from US sanctions

Deadly Trade Embrace Complicates Matters for China

Tweet Thread by Michael Pettis 

  • Beijing is very worried about the potential effects of sanctions on China’s vast holding of foreign assets, but the fact that they weren’t able to come up with any solution shows the extent to which China is locked into a structural problem. https://www.ft.com/content/45d5fcac-3e6d-420a-ac78-4b439e24b5de
  • As long as China runs large trade surpluses, it has no choice but to acquire foreign assets in exchange for the surpluses, and as long as it is incapable of rebalancing domestic demand, it has no choice but to run large trade surpluses.
  • What is especially interesting, according to the FT, is that “when one official asked Chinese bankers if they could diversify into more yen or euro-backed assets, they replied that the idea was not practical.”
  • They are right. It isn’t practical because if China stops acquiring American assets and instead acquires Japanese or European assets, the resulting capital inflows into those countries would cause the huge American trade deficit to shift to those countries.
  • Unlike the US, Japan and Europe are unable and unwilling to run the huge deficits that correspond to China’s surpluses. In fact they rely on their own trade surpluses to resolve their own domestic demand weakness.
  • It is mainly the US (and the anglophone economies) that are willing to run the huge deficits that allow other rich countries and/or commodity exporters to run surpluses. This means that the US provides the mechanism which allows other countries to repress domestic demand.
  • In order that they can continue doing so, the US must run permanent trade deficits and accept the unemployment or (more likely) soaring debt and asset bubbles that balance these deficits. Europe and Japan, rightly, refuse to play this role. The US, weirdly, embraces it.
  • The world, and especially the US, would be much better off if the problem of where to acquire foreign assets in exchange for permanent trade surpluses were resolved by preventing the net foreign acquisition of US assets by foreigners.
  • This would immediately force surplus countries to choose between either surging unemployment or a redistributing of income domestically that would boost domes
  • Put another way, if the US stops countries like China, Germany, and Russia from recycling their export surpluses by acquiring American assets, these countries would have to choose between either exporting less or importing more American products.

Understanding China’s Dilemma

China benefitted from Nixon’s move but is very concerned about the the US weaponizing the dollar as president Biden did to Russia.

Understanding Actual Reserves 

China’s has currency reserves far bigger than widely reported. 

Nixon Shock, the Reserve Currency Curse, and a Pending Currency Crisis

None of the above should be too shocking to long-time Mish readers. The subject comes up again and again.

For example, please consider my September 30, 2019 post Nixon Shock, the Reserve Currency Curse, and a Pending Currency Crisis

Many problems today including deficit spending, trade deficits, and income inequality have their roots in 1971.

Every country wants to devalue its currency to raise exports and have a current account surplus. It’s mathematically impossible but math never stops politicians.

Who Really Want’s Reserve Currency Status?

Despite moaning about the dollar, China does not want to have the world’s reserve currency because it implies running trade deficits in which other nations accumulate yuan reserves.

Japan and the EU (led by Germany), don’t want to have the reserve currency “advantage” either, for the same reason:

An export-based, current account surplus economy is incompatible with reserve currency status.

Reserve Currency Curse

The reserve currency irony is that despite protestations of US advantage, no country wants the alleged advantages the US purportedly receives.

Trump would be very pleased if the Yen, yuan, and Euro rose vs the dollar, and US exports rose.

Does Japan want a strong currency? China? The EU?

Since no one really wants it, having the reserve currency is best viewed as a “curse” not an “exorbitant privilege“.

Global Consumers of Last Resort

The US is stuck with the reserve currency because we have the largest, most open capital markets in the world, the world’s largest bond market, and a far better business climate than the EU, China, or Japan.

To ensure the US remains the curse holder, the EU and Japan have negative rates, China does not float the Yuan but props up corrupt SOEs, and Germany punishes the rest of the EU.

Everyone wants to export to the US, and they do.

For the above reasons, The Yuan Will Not Replace the US Dollar, Nor Will It Be Backed by Commodities

The current situation was not possible under a gold standard because deficits were self correcting. 

Now, no nation wants to give up the printing press and the bubbles printing creates. 

Bipolar System

Treasury Secretary Yellen is worried about Russia avoiding sanctions via China, India, etc

The irony in this madness is the US is concerned about China and India breaking US sanctions when the EU transacts with Russia, hidden in plain sight.

For discussion, please see Janet Yellen Warns China on Russia and Creating a Bipolar Global Financial System

Using Ethereum and Bitcoin, Not the Yuan, to Avoid US Sanctions on Russia

Numerous countries have established ways of avoiding the US dictating sanction policy for the world.

In case you missed it please consider Using Ethereum and Bitcoin, Not the Yuan, to Avoid US Sanctions on Russia

How Russia Avoids Oil Sanctions: Transfer at Sea to “Destination Unknown”

For more on sanction avoidance please see How Russia Avoids Oil Sanctions: Transfer at Sea to “Destination Unknown”

China is simply too big and manufactures too much stuff for similar measures. 

But as Pettis notes “when one official asked Chinese bankers if they could diversify into more yen or euro-backed assets, they replied that the idea was not practical.” 

What Does China Do With a Dollar That’s No Longer Risk Free? Buy Gold?

On March 18, I asked What Does China Do With a Dollar That’s No Longer Risk Free? Buy Gold?

Unmistakable Message

Team Biden just sent unmistakable message to China, Saudi Arabia, Russia, well actually everyone

  • We can make your fiat reserves worthless overnight
  • Buy gold
  • Buy base metals.
  • Hoard things you have everyone needs.

But guess what happens if everyone starts hoarding things that others need?

There is no practical measure China can take, but it can chip around the edges. 

Meanwhile, de-globalization is underway but the New Supply Chains Are Inefficient and Will Drive Up Inflation.

It’s a complicated mess globally, for literally the entire world. 

I do not know when this explodes into a major currency crisis, but it will. Gold, not Bitcoin will be the beneficiary.

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Kimbo252
Kimbo252
4 years ago
China export machine greatly benefitted from the former but China is very concerned about the latter.
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Mish why don’t you describe it how it really is,USA are just modern day Pirates,thieving other people’s money because they use their own rules only when it suits their interests at the expense of other nations.
GodfreeRoberts
GodfreeRoberts
4 years ago
The US is stuck with the reserve currency because we have the largest, most open capital markets in the world, the world’s largest bond market, and a far better business climate than the EU, China, or Japan.
Not any more.
China’s capital markets, in sync with its Asian neighbors’, are bigger and more open (they don’t steal people’s money and they don’t block members’ access. They are ramping up both the size of their bond market and its accessibility. Again, they won’t steal your money.
In fact, the days of steerable reserves may end this year, with China and Russia adopting SDRs, Special Drawing Rights. They’re Keynes’ Bancor reincarnated: a synthetic currency whose value is derived from a basket of trading currencies and commodities as publicly traded on a daily basis.
Extremely stable. Politically neutral. Hard to influence. Every participating central bank will get a board seat at the table and a vote.
China made perfectly clear what it wanted in 2009, after the Global Financial Crisis, when Zhou Xiaochuan, Governor of the Peoples Bank of China, PBOC, announced,
The world needs an international reserve currency that is disconnected from individual nations and able to remain stable in the long run, removing the inherent deficiencies caused by using credit-based national currencies.”
Zhou proposed Special Drawing Rights, SDRs valued against a basket of trading currencies, and Nobelists C. Fred Bergsten, Robert Mundell, and Joseph Stieglitz agreed, “The creation of a global currency would restore a needed coherence to the international monetary system, give the IMF a function that would help it to promote stability and be a catalyst for international harmony”.
What happened next:
2009: PBOC says, “We want SDRs”
2012: Beijing values the RMB in SDRs
2014: IMF makes its first SDR loan.
2016: World Bank makes its first SDR bond
2017: StanChart Bank issues its first commercial SDR note
2019: All central banks restate their reserves in SDRs
2022: Russia, the EUEU, and China will announce the new reserve currency Apr 1.
Expect a synthetic currency whose value derives from a global, publicly traded basket of currencies and commodities.
China has steadily been internationalizing the RMB ever since, to the extent it is now included in the IMF basket of currencies and has risen to fifth place as a global currency, representing 15% of global currency holdings, with Russia holding 25% of Chinese RMB international reserves while dumping the US dollar in return.
These moves will mean that in less than 5 years, the US dollar will account for less than half of global trade.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
4 years ago
Reply to  GodfreeRoberts
China needs to remove (loose) peg to $US for yuan to be considered anything but a carnival act.
JeffD
JeffD
4 years ago
Good article.
LostNOregon
LostNOregon
4 years ago
Mish, quick question and I apologize if you answer this later in the article. I wanted to capture this thought before I forgot it!
If we had not started off-shoring our manufacturing in the 90s, would our bubbles and subsequent implosions have been so bad?
Jojo
Jojo
4 years ago
China has many internal problems that influence the steps it takes in the outside world. Here’s another one:
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China’s millennials are shunning marriage at alarming rates, and it’s creating a nationwide population crisis that Beijing can’t magically fix
Apr 19, 2022, 10:37 PM
– China’s marriage rate is hitting record lows, and Beijing is struggling to stop the freefall.
– As China modernizes, more women are rejecting marriage in pursuit of financial freedom.
– That’s led to a decline in birth rates, which has Chinese authorities concerned.
….
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
4 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
Declining birthrates more accurately reflect a negative social mood. The West and Japan have been going through declining birth rates for a few decades, and now it’s China’s turn to join the list. The implication is a global depression since fewer people will be available to service their parent’s debt. As greater portions of personal budgets go to repaying debt, less will go to the economy.
TheCaptain
TheCaptain
4 years ago
There was never really a gold standard. There was only a gold standard marketing program. AS SOON as the ink was dry on Bretton Woods we began cheating, printing up more dollars than we had gold. It was a very smart con game by the US. Not only did we lie to everyone saying they could have their gold back on demand, we also allowed them to buy interest bearing US treasuries with the cash that they held instead of their gold. So they actually thought they were leasing their gold to the US, getting interest on a non interest bearing asset. All the while, we were inflating the currency faster than the rate of interest we were paying on treasuries. It is Satanic in nature, being the exact opposite of do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Instead, it was screw the other guy as much as you can as fast as you can. The US was in control because we had physical possession of the metal once again proving that if you don’t hold it, you don’t own it. Also, we had the biggest military so anyone who didn’t like it would have to take on the big bully and that would have ended badly. So the US got away with straight up theft. And people wonder why social has lost all its moral values and people with obvious mental problems now run this $hit show.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
The internet didn’t change discourse at all.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Looking at the price of gold there doesn’t seem to be that many people buying it and this with a new covid scare in China, highest inflation in 40 years, deficits out of sight and a major war in Europe that could quite possibly turn into a direct war between Russia and Nato with Russia openly threatening to use nuclear weapons and the price of gold still can’t seem to break the $2,000 mark. We haven’t had an alien invasion yet but if we do that just might do the trick. We have had a lot of bad news and the markets by tanking are reacting correctly but gold isn’t moving.
Scooot
Scooot
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
It’s because the dollar’s been favourite recently.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Scooot
The safe haven effect is alive and well.
Scooot
Scooot
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Yes. Gold’s mostly held its own against other currencies.
MPO45
MPO45
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
You make the argument that I’ve been thinking about now for at least a decade or two. If the 2008 financial meltdown didn’t cause gold to go ballistic along with everything else you listed then it is literally a dead metal but people can believe whatever they want. Gold necklaces and rings can get you laid but that’s about the utility of gold these days and I think most women would rather have a new iphone than a gold necklace anyway.
TheCaptain
TheCaptain
4 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
Thanks for your opinion! It is EXACTLY the kind of thing that pro traders like me look for to mark bottoms.
MPO45
MPO45
4 years ago
Reply to  TheCaptain
Then by all means load up the gold truck.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
Twenty years ago I studied the Siege of Sarajevo and what struck me was that gold through most of the siege had no value whatsoever. You couldn’t eat it of burn if for warmth. You would think that it would be natural as a means of exchange but it didn’t. The “money” that people used was tobacco and alcohol and not gold. Later on when some smuggling through the Serb lines became possible gold was exported out but at such as discount that your gold watch would buy you a couple of loaves of bread. When the going gets rough you would do better having things that people need and not something that is just pretty.
Scooot
Scooot
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
That’s all very true.
Although Gold can be used is a medium of exchange, usually it isn’t, as you know. It’s other quality is as a portable store of value, to be used at a later date, which is why most people want it these days. I view it as a longer term defensive hold instead of some of the cash allocation in times of uncertainty.
JRM
JRM
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
There’s plenty of stories out their about Gold and Silver being used to barter with during the civil war in Bosnia.
Anti- metal people just ignore those stories!!
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  JRM
More people used dollars and other hard currencies during the war in Bosnia than ever used gold or silver for transactions there.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
So loading up on cigs and alcy , will save our asses ?
JRM
JRM
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
People are buying it in large quantities, the price is being manipulated by the Powers to be!!!!
Eighthman
Eighthman
4 years ago
I think certain issues must be addressed. First, can China fend off future sanctions because the US lacks domestic productions of many things? Like drugs, electronics, tools, parts? Keeping reserves of yen, euros and dollars looks insane, as they can be erased with a keystroke – unless they are on a pallet in China.
China could demand yuan for various products, like Russia is doing. That could be tailored according to yuan strength and dealing with western sanctions thefts. Properties in the EU and US need to be sold off now before confiscation ( I understand they may be doing some of this already).
As for Taiwan, they need to wait or encourage economic collapse in the US so that the military becomes unaffordable. Then, a blockade and maybe an EMP weapon. I think their building of an underwater “Great Wall” has been overlooked. They might be able to precisely sense and target anything in the South China sea.
As for the lockdowns, that’s practicing hardships for what’s to come.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Eighthman
“Properties in the EU and US need to be sold off now before confiscation”
Which will necessitate a discount to be sold. They will receive Dollars and Euros in the sale so what will they do with them? That’s the problem. The sums will have to be converted but into what?
“As for the lockdowns, that’s practicing hardships for what’s to come.” I suppose they could practice famine after the lockdown next.
Eighthman
Eighthman
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
They buy more gold and commodities and then the currency is someone else’s problem. Or invest the dollars in BRI/’Stan nations. Or get the cash on pallets with non sequential serial numbers. It’s like we were discussing a kidnapping payment.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Eighthman
Gold itself couldn’t take the quantities and commodities are not money unless you want to do business by barter only. Taking the dollars to invest in BRI/Stan is not exchanging dollars for another currency because you would still be using dollars. The dollar and the Euro are reserve currencies because they represent the major economies that have free-floating currencies. China could do it also but they do not want to do so so the choices are very limited. Russia says its currency is backed by gold and commodities but unless you can freely covert your rubles into a fixed amount of gold or oil then saying it is backed by gold and commodities is just not true. Long ago the dollar was directly covertable into silver but FDR did away with that.
Eighthman
Eighthman
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
1.5 trillion in treasuries held by China is nonsense. It’s money they’ll never see again. US gets mad or in trouble – and poof, a keystroke took it away. Eventually, they must price trade in yuan, not dollars.
If the Nixon petrodollar had any effectiveness, so will the ruble. Indirect currency support.
If China has commodity stockpiles as insurance, then barter is available. An option.
If China buys property in the ‘Stans, then the dollars in payment become someone else’s problem.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Eighthman
The Chinese government hates having to recycle their dollars and they even told us so but to change that they would have to float the Yuan and they don’t want to do that either as Mish pointed out. In this world the value of a currency depends on the reputation of the country issuing it. For a major currency it just has to be better than the others rather than being perfect. Russia’s reputation is pretty bad now and not many want to hold rubles. Also seeing that Russia has a big problem with public assets disappearing into oligarchs pockets there is a certain scepticism as to if much of the gold in Russia’s vaults are actually gold and not pieces of wood painted gold. The war has brought out evidence that things that were supposed to be there were no longer there at all. With all those dollars China could buy all of the Stans but that would create a backlash by the inhabitants as the see them selves become disinherited of their land by the Chinese.
Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Reply to  Eighthman
Pallets of cash may not mean anything if we transition to digital dollars.
Sebdelson
Sebdelson
4 years ago
Gold is too inefficient. That’s why they have banks like JP Morgan and others guard it in repository. Gold does not work for 21st century needs.
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  Sebdelson
Better to have a piece of gold than money in a bank that’s been confiscated.
Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Reply to  Sebdelson
We treat gold like yap stones. The physical thing is meaningless, and mostly kept in a box. The value is in the story we tell each other about it.
TheCaptain
TheCaptain
4 years ago
Reply to  Sebdelson
YES! Gold is inefficient, gold is dead, gold is a pet rock! Keep it up, dummies. Talking when you should be averaging into a fat position.
Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Reply to  TheCaptain
Your ideas intrigue me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
4 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
buttlicker
prumbly
prumbly
4 years ago
Buy gold? Oil, surely. Once the oil starts running out, those countries that have it will control the world. Now is a great opportunity for China to stock up on cheap Russian oil.
MPO45
MPO45
4 years ago
China, like Russia and the US, has a huge demographics problem of aging population. As bad as things will be in the US by 2030 when all boomers will be over 65, China and Russia will have it much worse. Ironically, both will end up on relying on India to save them. Europe and the US will need to rely on South America and Africa. The great global gentrification continues…
Dutoit
Dutoit
4 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
If the forecasts about climatic change and shortages in energy become true, a great decrease in population will be necessary and will happen anyway. The countries will a very aging population will be much better that the ones with a large young population (the decrease will be much easier).
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
4 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
Oh yeh, the great population implosion, and you even provide the link to the author, chief implosionist Spengler aka David Goldman. If everybody could breed like mongoose, we would be all saved.
Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Reply to  MPO45

Covid 24 will rid them of that demographic overhang.

FromBrussels
FromBrussels
4 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
….in combination with the clot shots
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
4 years ago
China is making investments in the domestic economy. It’s building up infrastructure like noone else: cities, high-speed railways, airports.
Look up just one of the projects, the Hong Kong-Macau bridge.
More importantly, it is domestically financed, designed and made, as opposed to some oil banana republic hiring foreign companies.
The original export oriented economy, might have become and surplus export economy.
Also, look at the domestic savings rate rather than borrowed wealth.
I have had great respect for FT and the Economist, in the past.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
4 years ago
“China is making investments in the domestic economy”
Yes. President Xi (attempting to) transition from mercantile to more consumer based economy as means for common prosperity. With a record trade surplus the time is now for transition. That is the plan.
Unfortunately, Mike Tyson (global recession) awaits.
MPO45
MPO45
4 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.
dbannist
dbannist
4 years ago
This is sort of on topic but a slight digression:The shut downs in China make virtually zero sense, considering that COVID is now endemic and a permanent part of the landscape. Shutting down a country to temporarily reduce rates of infection therefore seems incredibly foolish. It hurts China domestically as well as their exports to others. The only reason I can possibly imagine why they would be doing what they are doing is for a reason other than medical.

While there’s been a bit of speculation to the shutdowns being used as a political weapon against the West I’m not fully on board with that, but I can’t think of any other reason for it either. There’s never been a better time for China to use the power of denying exports to the rest of the world to wreak havoc with their economy.

I feel uneasy about it. Ukraine changed the political landscape in ways I don’t think any of us can possibly imagine just yet. All bets are off.

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
4 years ago
Reply to  dbannist
Why would China want to wreak havoc with other countries economies?
Any havoc would reflect back on their own economy in that they’d experience a slow down in their exports. China needs to keep things humming along because over the past couple of decades they’ve moved HUNDREDS of millions of peasants off farms and into large cities to work in the export industry (factories). Those people need to work to afford food, rent etc just like like we do here (everyone moved to cities here a few decades earlier). Political unrest can happen there just as easily as it can happen here if people aren’t working and being fed.
What I wonder is if a more virulent version of Covid or something else has been discovered and they don’t want it to get loose.
dbannist
dbannist
4 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Why? Because maybe they finally feel like they can challenge the USA’s hegemony and take Taiwan.
Maybe they are concerned about the attempt by the USA to isolate Russia and are taking steps to ensure they would be prepared were that to happen to them.
I don’t really know. What I do know is it makes zero sense to lock down for COVID now, especially since there’s a vaccine and everyone will get COVID eventually. Why try to postpone the inevitable? What are they going to do, lock down forever? Lockdowns to try to prevent a COVID outbreak are stupid now, and China knows it. Whatever their reason for locking down, it can’t be COVID.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
4 years ago
Reply to  dbannist
To be fair, it never made sense to lock down for Covid anywhere. Vulnerable people (old and/or sick) should have been isolated and that should have been that.
If they want to take Taiwan, they should just go ahead and take it (or fail to take it). No need for subterfuge by locking down your main port that mostly exports junk (ie non-necessary stuff) worldwide.
prumbly
prumbly
4 years ago
Reply to  dbannist
Funny how these daft narratives emerge. China has been creating COVID-free isolation bubbles for factories so they can keep producing crap for the rest of the world. Why would they do that if their aim was to deny the world their crap? It’s clearly nonsense.
I suspect China’s continuing zero-COVID policy has more to do with ‘face’ than anything else. But don’t expect to understand that if you’re American – Americans are pathologically incapable of understanding any other culture.
dbannist
dbannist
4 years ago
Reply to  prumbly
They don’t need COVID free bubbles to create stuff.

COVID is a non-issue now. It really is. Lockdowns now make zero sense.

Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Reply to  prumbly

That’s because we really don’t have an established culture. Without it, it’s hard to grasp that other cultures even exist.

Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
4 years ago

“Team Biden just sent unmistakable message to China, Saudi Arabia, Russia, well actually everyone. We can make your fiat reserves worthless overnight”

Not so fast. US can play tough guy with Russia since for all intent and purposes no trade relation. China? Who we count on to supply us with Junk? Who our Corporations have invested $billions in factories? Who we count on to buy our Treasuries? We’re gonna play tough guy … with no repercussions?
Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
The only thing that gives most Americans hope is their daily ration of discount outlet merchandise.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
4 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Nah, it’s the readily available firearms and ammunition.
Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
I can’t afford to shoot my firearms much, so they aren’t that fun.
prumbly
prumbly
4 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
“Who we count on to buy our Treasuries?”
I’m sure the Fed can step in as needed
Greenmountain
Greenmountain
4 years ago
Part of this is because of America’s love affair with both lots and cheap stuff. Given that – Is there really a move among American companies to move manufacturing back to the US or is it just to other cheap countries (Africa may yet see a manufacturing boom) US trade surplus therefore remains high but more diversified among poor countries. And if not manufacturing what is the other key driver of the trade surplus.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
4 years ago
“The US, weirdly, embraces it.”
Nothing “weirdly” … just pure GREED.
Wall Street and asset holders (top 10%) sold out America to enrich themselves … at the expense of the bottom 90%.
Greenmountain
Greenmountain
4 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Fun to see Wall Street trekking to Saudi Arabia and prostrating in front of the those unsavory characters. No end to what GREED will do.
Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Reply to  Greenmountain

The saudis are biblically evil, as is anyone that befriends them. Those pictures of W. Holding hands and playing kissy face with Saudi royals were repulsive.

KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
The Saudis were the biggest benefactors of the Clinton Foundation. Clearly because they care deeply about poor children in Africa.
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
“In order that they can continue doing so, the US must run permanent
trade deficits and accept the unemployment or (more likely) soaring debt
and asset bubbles that balance these deficits.”
For each action there must be a reaction.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
4 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
Yo, RonJ. Americans are special. They can run trade deficits and increase debt and blow asset bubbles and increase unemployment all at the same time.
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
China is acting very strange. They have draconian lockdowns under the guise of preventing covid. Seems they’re preparing for something bad.
dbannist
dbannist
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
I just made a similar comment.

They make no sense, unless it’s not about COVID. Something is up and I don’t think they are up to any good.

Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Secretly creating an army of 10 billion attack drones instead of consumer crap they’ll get worthless paper for is my bet. Pearl Harbor 2 is coming! Run to the hills!
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Practically except for Sweden, every country had some sort of shutdowns under the guise of preventing Covid. It wasn’t until April 2021 that Disneyland opened up again, with reduced capacity.
The CDC, NIH, FDA, are acting strange. The WHO is acting strange. Top down authoritarianism, over medical treatment by one’s personal physician.
Apparently, a bill in California to punish doctors for telling their patients the truth about the Covid shots, passed out of the Assembly committee.
Top down authoritarianism.

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