Mark Zandi is the near-perfect contrarian indicator. I am wondering if anyone is better.
Take Heart Republicans
Congratulations to WSJ Op-Ed writer Allysia Finley for compiling an amazing list of Mark Zandi’s stunningly wrong predictions.
Mark Zandi is Chief Economist, Host of the Inside Economics podcast, and co-founder of Economy.com.
Please consider Trump Can Take Heart: Mark Zandi Says Harris Will Win
“The economy’s performance is an increasingly strong tailwind to the presidential election bid of Kamala Harris,” Mr. Zandi tweeted last week. According to his model, “Harris is expected to win 286 electoral votes by winning the swing states of Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina.”
Mr. Zandi also called the Federal Reserve’s 50-basis-point interest-rate cut an “economic tailwind behind the Harris campaign.” That’s far from reassuring for the vice president. It isn’t an exaggeration to say that Punxsutawney Phil has a better predictive record than he does. Let’s rewind the tape.
Stunningly Wrong Calls
- In October 2006, Mr. Zandi predicted that the shaky housing market would “bottom out” in a year. It took five.
- In July 2007 he said “the economy isn’t going to weaken any further.” Mere months later, it began to plunge into the “Great Recession.”
- Mr. Zandi later devised the economic models the Obama administration used to claim that its stimulus spending would create economic “multiplier” effects, with each dollar spent on unemployment benefits and food stamps producing more than $1.60 in output. The Obama stimulus, Mr. Zandi forecast, would result in 141.4 million jobs in 2012. There were only 135 million by the end of that year, fewer than his model predicted if the Democrats’ stimulus hadn’t passed.
- He projected the Obama stimulus would boost gross domestic product by 9.1%, between 2008 and 2012. GDP grew a mere 3.9%.
- Mr. Zandi forecast an economic Category 5 hurricane if Mr. Trump won. The Republican’s policies, he predicted, would tank the economy and create 7.4% unemployment, soaring interest rates, deficits and inflation. GDP would fall 2.4% in “an unusually lengthy recession,” and “the average American household’s after-inflation income will stagnate, and stock prices and real house values will decline.”
- Mr. Zandi predicted that a Democratic sweep in the 2020 election would supercharge economic growth, while interest rates would stay between 0.1% and 1.5%.
- When inflation heated up, in June 2021 Mr. Zandi said not to worry: “It is wrong to get all worked up over today’s high inflation. It will soon abate” and “moderate to between 2% and 3% by this time next year.” Inflation peaked at 9.1% in June 2022.
Zandi’s Presidential Election Model
Importance of Gasoline
How ridiculous. The price of rent, food, and especially the unemployment rate are all more important.
Manufacturing Sheds 24,000 Jobs, Government Adds 24,000, Big Negative Revisions

Dear Mr, Zandi, please note A Breakdown, by Sector, of the Negative 818,000 BLS Job Revisions
Dear Mr. Zandi, please note the September Payroll Report: Manufacturing Sheds 24,000 Jobs, Big Negative Revisions
Dear Mr. Zandi, please note the yellow line in the above chart shows full-time employment is -1,021,000 for the last year.
Dear Mr. Zandi, everyone makes bad calls on occasion, including me. But when the constant best use of your analysis is a contrarian indicator, it’s time to shut up.
Allysia Finley concludes, and I agree, Mr. Trump could very well lose, but Mr. Zandi would deserve as much credit for projecting his defeat as Punxsutawney Phil does when he predicts an early spring.


I can give both Zandi and Lichtman (hey, and Jim Cramer) a run. My record goes back to Nixon/Humphrey. Only inconsistencies were:
Other than that, my record is perfect. I blew Reagan/Mondale. I blew Nixon/McGovern. I blew ’em all. This takes truly amazing skill!
Currently (emphasis currently), Harris wins for sure (though late-late-late).
No matter who wins, I predict the calls of “foul” will be deafening.
Deep State Goons and Assassins For Harris!
Yay
Harris “defends America’s democratic ideals” how exactly? By washing out in primaries 4 years ago so thoroughly that she was ushered around that whole mess by unseen players in the political theatre this time around?
Given the state of D.C. and the MIC’s track record of nation-building and other democracy-forward actions (both foreign and domestic), it leaves one to wonder which is more farcical: That an endorsement would be made with the genuine expectation that it would benefit the endorsee or that a voter would consume this press release and be moved by its contents.
Go ahead. Keep attempting to rationalize Trump’s upcoming smackdown!
You’ll be better prepared mentally or when the real thing happens and won’t have to beat your dog.
BTW: Trump has stated he won’t give 228 a try again if he loses this time. That’s heartening but what will all of you do w/o your cult figure? Usually, this isn’t an issue because the cult worshippers conduct a mass suicide when the leader dies.
Yikes. RCP has her national average below the margin of error and everyone knows that Trump over performs lib polls including your hero Carville. National polls don’t matter Bubba and I guess you missed the supposedly gold standard NYT polls as well as the panic in the dem party over the teamsters non endorsement. That’s over a million potential teuno voters by a 2-1 margin over cackles. Trump will win in an electoral landslide. Please do tey not to riot or sue everybody whe it happens. “Democracy” and all, right ?
Incorrect. This election is still Trump’s to lose. Even if Harris wins, it’ll be close, no “smack down” in sight
He’s a Democrat who’s an integral part of “The System”.
Nuf said.
This is one of the reasons Trump is going to lose:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEzDRSJM9vE
Funniest video I’ve seen in weeks.
“A lifetime republican” who’s now somehow amazed at Kamala’s record of achievements.
We’ve got a name for his kind: RINO – Never Trumpers
Trump may well lose, but it won’t be due to vast swaths of RINO republican’s coming to grip with Harris’ vast accomplishments. These are the people who might not have voted for Trump in 2016 and most certainly didn’t vote for him in 2020. So there’s very few of these people who are Johnny Come Lately crossovers for Harris.
If I was renting, no way would I vote for Headboard Harris. Or lived in a big city. Or seen grocery costs and listened to her ideas.
Her stupidity is eye watering.
Zandi is a living breathing Dunning-Kruger experiment.
He’s a paid propagandists just like all the other mainstream talking head economists. They have never been right about a single thing but they’re not being paid to be right. They’re being paid to toe the line.
What’s amazing is that there are people who listen to these gasbags.
I feel Bill Maher is a near-perfect contrarian indicator also. He thinks Trump is done. That being said, if I were a betting man, my money would be with Harris. Don’t follow polls – follow the last elections. I agree with Professor Lichtman below.
Alan Lichtman has a near 40 year perfect record of predicting Presidential wins based on 13 criteria…
He says Harris will win…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE22XjWEyQE
There has to be some witty ‘chasing Nostradamus’ quote, but can’t think of any right now.
Sorry. Meant to say , who did he have for 2016? Lol
If you’re voting the same way as Dick Cheney, you might want to reassess. Unless, of course, you want perpetual war. Then it would totally make sense.
I don’t think Putin’s avatar is going to win.
Here’s someone that has a 90% accurate track record predicting presidential elections & this election Harris is his pick:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/09/10/historian-allan-lichtman-predicts-next-president-harris-trump-2024-elections/75148207007/
“Mark M. Zandi is the chief economist of Moody’s Analytics, where he directs economic research.”
“Zandi infamously discounted the 2007–2009 housing market collapse stating to The New York Times in March 2006 that “Even in the most vulnerable markets, most people just have to look through it and ignore it because it’s of very little relevance to them.”
Should have had this moron playing himself instead of the old lady with the big sunglasses in The Big Short movie.
I just think we should give a white guy a chance.
the clown had a chance already, he failed miserably. No wall, no swamp drain….
All we got were tariffs that increased inflation for everyone.
Racist
Yes, many people accuse trump of that too.
It will take more than just a drop in interest rates to save the housing market
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/23/business/housing-market-interest-rates-other-problems/index.html
Zandi is a mouth piece for the establishment . . . Alot of voters who are going to vote for Trump aren’t saying who they are going to vote for now. Its taken 248 years to get to this stage . . . if Harris wins the Country will continue its current trajectory of decline . . . but only faster . . .
Moody’s is a criminal enterprise.
Zandi may have this one right. Harris has MMM (Momentum, Money, and Moms) in her favor.
Letting AWFL’s pick the president – a great idea – NOT.
She has the Democrat Election Heist Machine in her favor.
no matter who wins neocons/CONgress are going to strap them with massive deficits and no win wars
provided we haven’t been nuked by then
Trump and Harris are equally pro-Israel. On Ukraine, Taiwan and general U.S. worldwide meddling, Trump is the better one. Dick Cheney is going with Harris as the greater of two evils.
“Mr. Zandi predicted that a Democratic sweep in the 2020 election would supercharge economic growth, while interest rates would stay between 0.1% and 1.5%.”
Except for the supercharging by the fraudulently named Inflation Reduction Act, that prediction didn’t pan out very well.
ZH: “ABC News Admits Kamala Is Significantly Underperforming Amongst Hispanic Voters”
700 intelligence officials are interfering in our election, again. Eisenhower warned about them in his speech about the military industrial complex.
60 years ago. What have we learned?
Plenty of job openings in NZ 🙂
An OIA (freedom of information) request to Health New Zealand asked for “The number of people under the age of 40 presenting to Emergency Departments (A&E) throughout New Zealand hospitals with Chest Pain or Heart Issues by year?” The Health New Zealand answer (OIA reference: HNZ00061156) contains shattering information:
Year | Number presenting to Emergency Departments with chest pain
Alarm bells sounding among private health insurers
Our second source of information has been passed on to the Hatchard Report from within the New Zealand Private Health Insurance industry. Around 36% of the New Zealand population are covered by some form of private health insurance.
According to our source, the incidence of heart disease and cancer has accelerated to record highs in the years since 2020. However the most concerning trend for our health insurance industry involves another condition.
Some health insurance policies include income protection coverage for working adults should they become sick and unable to work. In the event of an illness, the insured’s income will be covered if they are absent from work as a result. There has been a recent significant and concerning blow out in the number of working adults suffering from cognitive decline—a condition sufficient to cause long term incapacity to work. Individual cases can cause insurers to continue to make income support payments over many years, costing millions of dollars per person.
To put it bluntly, this information may indicate there has been a significant increase in the incidence of early onset dementia among working age adults.
https://hatchardreport.com/staggering-new-data-from-health-new-zealand-and-others/
For the benefit of our overseas readers, these figures need to be read in the context of COVID-19 incidence in New Zealand. Because of border closures, quarantine, and lockdowns, New Zealand had close to zero Covid cases until February 2022. In contrast, Pfizer mRNA COVID-19 vaccination became available in February 2021 for older people and those at risk. General availability for those under 40 years started towards mid 2021. Legislation making COVID-19 mRNA vaccination compulsory for those in various state employment sectors (vaccine mandates) was enacted in November 2021. The mandates were also adopted by the vast majority of private employers.
The OIA figures suggest approximately a ten fold increase in chest pain and/or cardiac events among those under 40 probably associated with the administration of mRNA vaccines. Moreover the figures to June 2024 indicate the trend is still continuing.
https://hatchardreport.com/staggering-new-data-from-health-new-zealand-and-others/
In NZ, you can book your covid vax here.
https://info.health.nz/conditions-treatments/infectious-diseases/covid-19
Aren’t you due for a monkeypox booster?
He needs a Monkey BRAIN transplant.
The current one has pox holes and pus infecting the synapses and he is overdue for a quick 2′ x 4′ whack to his head which offers temporary relief:
FOR US!
HIS F-OFF and DYING TRICK IS WORKING, by the way. There are signs of deep infectious worms digging into his brain cells.
Treatment is indicated RIGHT NOW!
Otherwise, he seems just fine.
Signed, and Certified,
Dr. Dave
The reign of Jacinda and Covid-Lockdown-Vax Theater was all about clearing the way for the world elite parasites to hide out there at the appropriate time.
Maybe Zandi just sucks as an economist, but missed his calling as a political forecaster? Alternatively we can’t discount the possibility he sucks at everything including pickleball.
Free market betting data over at PredictIt says Harris 58% chance of win.
https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7419/Will-Kamala-Harris-be-the-47th-US-president
Then take a look at ticker symbol DJT. It’s at 52 week and all time low. another ‘free market’ data point that doesn’t bode well for trump.
So yeah, take heart trumpers, take heart.
I am kindly asking for a v3 version of yourself, healed and functioning. v2 is looking tired and malfunctioning.
WTF are you talking about? I am merely pointing out data sources and it’s triggering you?
For the record, I don’t give a rats a$$ who wins the election, I am a data driven investor, speculator, profiter, and profiteer. I only care about outcomes that increase my wealth, that’s it.
I have data feeds that aggregate, distill and spit out potential outcomes based on probabilities. If I post a comment here, it is likely data driven not politically driven. If you don’t like the data then that’s your problem not mine.
I’m not even going to vote because all the candidates are clowns.
Pure selfishness, exactly what this world needs more of. Would v3 somehow create a perfectly selfish being?
Go and take a look at social security and medicare spend then tell me who the selfish parasitic group are in the United States.
Here’s a link to help you out on your research.
https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/federal-spending/
We are all inherently selfish, it’s our actions that define who we are. We can only control ourselves. Give more of yourself than you take.
Are you the same poster who keeps on saying you’re going into the bumper sticker business?
No, that’s JoJo. I don’t post comments here as anyone else, I’ve said that numerous times.
Losing and crying about it is their thing now. Booooo hoooo hooooo….
VW Could Cut Up To 30,000 Employees In Germany
Cost-cutting measures were expected and already hinted at earlier this month, but these numbers are more aggressive than anticipated.
So far, VW has not confirmed this 30,000 figure, but fears are growing it will move ahead with drastic cuts shortly.
The news come after reports earlier this month that VW was planning to historic factory closures for the first time in the country’s 87-year history.
The company cited soaring business costs, including energy and labor, along with logistics chains.
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/vw-could-cut-30000-employees-germany
I guess solar panels was a bad idea
I wonder how Toyota is fairing. It seems that manufacturers that deliver value are doing quite well.
Interesting thing happened by me this weekend.
Wife and I went for a stroll at Harbour near me.
In parking lot was EV Truck. These are distinctive looking vehicles. Wife went over to look at it and engaged conversation with two other woman who were walking by.
One of the woman started explaining to my gal how the Truck had so much Battery weight it needed special tires and that in Ten years it would be all trash as replacing those batteries so costly that it would not get fixed.
Overhearing a Woman discussing mechanics of an EV was something surprising for me.
Would appear that the Green EV story as being a Big motivator for Woman to vote Blue along with Abortion as making this a one or two issue election for woman is not so assured.
Woman have a practical side and it does affect their perception of things.
It’s a margin of error rather than a toss up race by now. But I find it amazing that 45 percent of the electorate sticks to a self-made idiot like Trump despite all the obvious nonsense he peddles on a daily basis.
Wormtongue? Is that you?
Zandi is a moron
But I am sure he has been told by someone who was told by the “CIA” that Trump will not win. Like Macron saying 6 months ago he was told Trump would not win
Because they are sure as day going to steal this election even more surely than they stole 2020
Take heart? That a 34x felon adjudicated rapist and attempted wanna be dictator might win?
and yet still preferable to Kamala harris.
Rob, having lost their minds, heartless Trumpers are now looking for love.
It’s
the economy,stupid.Just CYA and you’ll be fine!
Re dictator: In my best Inigo Montoya voice, “You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.”
One group of people is definitely acting like dictators and fascists though per the definitions. Just a clue, it’s the group trying to literally kill the other group.
You can tell when it’s election season because all of the shills and bots come out of the woodwork.
Krugman?
So sick of these political operatives pretending to be economists. Only in America can you get it so wrong and still be considered an expert.
FIFY: Only in
AmericaEconomics can you get it so wrong and still be considered an expert.