I am skeptical of deals until they happen, but this one looks real. Congrats to Trump.
Israeli Ministers Meet to Ratify Deal to End War in Gaza
CBC reports Israeli Ministers Meet to Ratify Deal to End War in Gaza
- Israel and Hamas have signed a deal to stop fighting and swap Israeli hostages for Palestinian detainees, the most significant step yet to end the war in Gaza after two years.
- Israelis and Palestinians alike rejoiced after the news was announced.
- The leader of Hamas said he was assured the agreement will end the war in Gaza, while U.S. President Donald Trump said the deal was a major breakthrough.
- The world is now waiting to see whether the Israeli government ratifies the deal. Cabinet ministers are meeting tonight to make their decision.
- Canada is in talks to join a task force to help find and return the bodies of Israeli hostages who died in captivity.
- More than 67,000 Palestinians have been killed since Israel launched its offensive in response to the attacks led by Hamas on Oct. 7, 2023. At that time, 1,200 Israelis were killed and another 251 were taken hostage.
Hostages Released Monday or Tuesday
NBC News reports Trump says hostages will be released ‘Monday or Tuesday’ as he plans travel to Middle East
- Deal Announced: President Donald Trump announced last night that the “first phase” of the plan to end the conflict in Gaza had been agreed to. It includes a pause in fighting and the release of Israeli hostages and Palestinian prisoners.
- Trump Traveling to Egypt:Trump said he is planning to travel to Egypt for an official signing of the ceasefire deal during opening remarks at his White House Cabinet meeting.
- Calls for Peace: The Israeli Cabinet is meeting to vote on whether to approve the deal, with a ceasefire taking effect “within 24 hours.” Scenes from Gaza of devastation and hunger, as well as a famine declaration, have prompted outrage around the world and left Israel isolated diplomatically.
- Hostages to Be Released: The White House said that it expects hostages to be released Monday. Forty-eight hostages remain to be returned, of whom Israel says it believes 20 are still alive.
- Toll of the Two-Year War: The agreement comes almost two years to the day after the Hamas-led terrorist attacks on Israel that killed 1,200 people. Since then, more than 67,000 people have been killed in Gaza, according to the Palestinian Health Ministry.
- Issues Remain: It was not immediately clear whether the parties had made any progress on thornier questions about the future of the conflict, including whether Hamas will demilitarize, as Trump has demanded, and eventual governance of the war-torn territory.
20-Point Plan
- Gaza will be a deradicalized terror-free zone that does not pose a threat to its neighbors.
- Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit of the people of Gaza, who have suffered more than enough.
- If both sides agree to this proposal, the war will immediately end. Israeli forces will withdraw to the agreed upon line to prepare for a hostage release. During this time, all military operations, including aerial and artillery bombardment, will be suspended, and battle lines will remain frozen until conditions are met for the complete staged withdrawal.
- Within 72 hours of Israel publicly accepting this agreement, all hostages, alive and deceased, will be returned.
- Once all hostages are released, Israel will release 250 life sentence prisoners plus 1700 Gazans who were detained after October 7th 2023, including all women and children detained in that context. For every Israeli hostage whose remains are released, Israel will release the remains of 15 deceased Gazans.
- Once all hostages are returned, Hamas members who commit to peaceful co-existence and to decommission their weapons will be given amnesty. Members of Hamas who wish to leave Gaza will be provided safe passage to receiving countries.
- Upon acceptance of this agreement, full aid will be immediately sent into the Gaza Strip. At a minimum, aid quantities will be consistent with what was included in the January 19, 2025, agreement regarding humanitarian aid, including rehabilitation of infrastructure (water, electricity, sewage), rehabilitation of hospitals and bakeries, and entry of necessary equipment to remove rubble and open roads.
- Entry of distribution and aid in the Gaza Strip will proceed without interference from the two parties through the United Nations and its agencies, and the Red Crescent, in addition to other international institutions not associated in any manner with either party. Opening the Rafah crossing in both directions will be subject to the same mechanism implemented under the January 19, 2025 agreement.
- Gaza will be governed under the temporary transitional governance of a technocratic, apolitical Palestinian committee, responsible for delivering the day-to-day running of public services and municipalities for the people in Gaza. This committee will be made up of qualified Palestinians and international experts, with oversight and supervision by a new international transitional body, the “Board of Peace,” which will be headed and chaired by President Donald J. Trump, with other members and heads of State to be announced, including Former Prime Minister Tony Blair. This body will set the framework and handle the funding for the redevelopment of Gaza until such time as the Palestinian Authority has completed its reform program, as outlined in various proposals, including President Trump’s peace plan in 2020 and the Saudi-French proposal, and can securely and effectively take back control of Gaza. This body will call on best international standards to create modern and efficient governance that serves the people of Gaza and is conducive to attracting investment.
- A Trump economic development plan to rebuild and energize Gaza will be created by convening a panel of experts who have helped birth some of the thriving modern miracle cities in the Middle East. Many thoughtful investment proposals and exciting development ideas have been crafted by well-meaning international groups, and will be considered to synthesize the security and governance frameworks to attract and facilitate these investments that will create jobs, opportunity, and hope for future Gaza.
- A special economic zone will be established with preferred tariff and access rates to be negotiated with participating countries.
- No one will be forced to leave Gaza, and those who wish to leave will be free to do so and free to return. We will encourage people to stay and offer them the opportunity to build a better Gaza.
- Hamas and other factions agree to not have any role in the governance of Gaza, directly, indirectly, or in any form. All military, terror, and offensive infrastructure, including tunnels and weapon production facilities, will be destroyed and not rebuilt. There will be a process of demilitarization of Gaza under the supervision of independent monitors, which will include placing weapons permanently beyond use through an agreed process of decommissioning, and supported by an internationally funded buy back and reintegration program all verified by the independent monitors. New Gaza will be fully committed to building a prosperous economy and to peaceful coexistence with their neighbors.
- A guarantee will be provided by regional partners to ensure that Hamas, and the factions, comply with their obligations and that New Gaza poses no threat to its neighbors or its people.
- The United States will work with Arab and international partners to develop a temporary International Stabilization Force (ISF) to immediately deploy in Gaza. The ISF will train and provide support to vetted Palestinian police forces in Gaza, and will consult with Jordan and Egypt who have extensive experience in this field. This force will be the long-term internal security solution. The ISF will work with Israel and Egypt to help secure border areas, along with newly trained Palestinian police forces. It is critical to prevent munitions from entering Gaza and to facilitate the rapid and secure flow of goods to rebuild and revitalize Gaza. A deconfliction mechanism will be agreed upon by the parties.
- Israel will not occupy or annex Gaza. As the ISF establishes control and stability, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) will withdraw based on standards, milestones, and timeframes linked to demilitarization that will be agreed upon between the IDF, ISF, the guarantors, and the Unites States, with the objective of a secure Gaza that no longer poses a threat to Israel, Egypt, or its citizens. Practically, the IDF will progressively hand over the Gaza territory it occupies to the ISF according to an agreement they will make with the transitional authority until they are withdrawn completely from Gaza, save for a security perimeter presence that will remain until Gaza is properly secure from any resurgent terror threat.
- In the event Hamas delays or rejects this proposal, the above, including the scaled-up aid operation, will proceed in the terror-free areas handed over from the IDF to the ISF.
- An interfaith dialogue process will be established based on the values of tolerance and peaceful co-existence to try and change mindsets and narratives of Palestinians and Israelis by emphasizing the benefits that can be derived from peace.
- While Gaza re-development advances and when the PA reform program is faithfully carried out, the conditions may finally be in place for a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood, which we recognize as the aspiration of the Palestinian people.
- The United States will establish a dialogue between Israel and the Palestinians to agree on a political horizon for peaceful and prosperous co-existence.
Expect More Palestinian Aid
The New York Times reports What We Know About the Hostage Deal Between Israel and Hamas
Israel and Hamas have agreed to an exchange of the remaining Israeli hostages in Gaza for Palestinian prisoners, President Trump announced on Wednesday. But as people across the Middle East woke up to news of the agreement on Thursday, many of the details were still unclear.
Some of the most sensitive questions — such as whether Hamas would lay down its arms and who would run the Palestinian enclave after the war — still need to be worked out.
The plan says hostages in Gaza and Palestinian prisoners are expected to be exchanged about three days after Israel formally ratifies the cease-fire. The roughly 20 living hostages are likely to be released on Sunday or Monday, according to an Israeli official, who spoke anonymously because they were not authorized to discuss sensitive matters.
Israeli forces would also withdraw to an agreed-upon line, although the precise location has yet to be made public. Mr. Trump’s proposal contained maps showing Israeli withdrawal lines, but those appear to have been amended during the course of the negotiations, according to two Israeli officials and an Egyptian official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss diplomatic matters.
Under Mr. Trump’s plan, about 20 living Israeli hostages would be exchanged for 250 Palestinian prisoners serving life sentences in Israel and 1,700 Gazans detained during the war. The bodies of 15 Gazans would be returned for the remains of each Israeli.
Officials and analysts say that turning over the bodies of the roughly 25 hostages who were killed would likely be more complicated and take longer.
The deal is expected to allow more aid into Gaza.
Mr. Trump’s proposal called for an influx of humanitarian aid into Gaza, which has been gripped by a hunger crisis for much of the war. Aid groups have blamed Israeli restrictions on food and other goods entering the enclave for the shortages, which led international monitors to declare a famine in parts of northern Gaza this summer. Israel has denied the characterization.
Hamas and Qatar indicated in their initial statements about the agreement that it would allow for more aid to flow. But the details were unclear.
An earlier, short-lived cease-fire between Israel and Hamas in January stipulated that hundreds of trucks ferrying supplies would enter the enclave each day.
It’s unclear whether Hamas will disarm.
For Mr. Trump’s full peace plan to work, diplomats and negotiators will probably need to resolve a crucial question: Will Hamas agree to give up its weapons?
Mr. Netanyahu has long insisted that he would not accept an agreement in which Hamas refuses to disarm. The Palestinian militant group has publicly rejected his demands that it do so.
Mr. Trump did not mention that issue in his social media post or in a television interview afterward, and there were no immediate public comments about it from Israel or Hamas.
Some Arab mediators negotiating an end to the war in Gaza believe that they can persuade Hamas to partially disarm, The New York Times reported this week.
Will Peace Work?
The New York Times commented For Mr. Trump’s full peace plan to work, the crucial question is: Will Hamas agree to give up its weapons?
That is more than a bit optimistic. Arab states will not want to see Israel take over the West Bank.
There was no mention of a Palestinian state which I believe is a prerequisite to lasting peace.
Where is Israel withdrawing troops to? Where is rebuilding aid coming from? War contamination of land and water supplies?
We Have a Start
Despite all of the missing pieces, we have a start. But there was no way to negotiate all of the missing pieces I mentioned.
So, congrats to Trump for the start, even if it is less than ideal, because ideal was impossible.
As a Libertarian, I always praise peace.
Venezuela’s opposition leader Machado wins Nobel Peace Prize, dedicates to Trump.
Let’s pray this peace plan holds & gives the middle east a chance at real peace between Jews & Arabs.
Praise to Trump for allowing (and helping) Bibi turn Gaza into ruble the past 10 months?
There is a city within Israel today that consists of Jews and Palestinians, has growing economic standards, has no Hamas or PLO presence, and has never once experienced a muslim terror bombing or attack of any kind. It is called Wahat Al-Salam, and demonstrates that what is proposed in Gaza can actually happen.
“For every Israeli hostage whose remains are released, Israel will release the remains of 15 deceased Gazans.”
Sadly, this reflects how much value they place on Palestinian lives vis-a-vis Israeli lives. The life of a Palestinian is worth only 1/15 or less, that of an Israeli. In other words, for every Israeli killed by Hamas, Israel will kill 15 Palestinians! That is how 67,000 Palestinian children and women had to die for the 1,200 Israelis killed in the conflict, which worked out to be 56 Palestinian lives for every Israeli killed. You have to be monsters to keep on killing ….!
Hamas started it and could have ended it way before that many died. You’re placing blame on the wrong group.
Sucker! At least 50% of that 67k (from the HAMAS Health Agency!) are terrorist fighters. So that leaves maybe 35k civilians killed.
All of these 35k deaths could have been prevented had Hamas returned the hostages it held, laid down its weapons and surrendered. They chose not to do this and so Israel was forced to have to kill civilians as it went after the terrorists.
There is also the question of how many Gazan Palestinians should be considered “innocent”.
The vast majority celebrated the Hamas attack on Israel on Oct 7, 2023, even though they knew that Israelis citizens and residents had been brutally killed, just as they also celebrated the 9-11 attack in 2001. In a poll taken in 2024, 80% of Gazan residents supported Hamas and their goals.
These facts remove the idea that civilians in Gaza were innocent.
You should watch less TikTok propaganda videos!
Many believe the Ministry of Health’s count of the dead in Gaza is a gross underestimate, as it does not include the missing—bodies buried in the rubble of Gaza.
https://english.elpais.com/international/2025-01-10/study-shows-gaza-death-toll-is-70-higher-than-hamas-figures.html
The idea that half of the Gazans killed are Hamas fighters is just not credible, given the small number of Hamas fighters relative to the population and the reality of the carpet bombing striking virtually every school, hospital, playground, and apartment building in Gaza. The vast majority killed are women and children.
https://www.vaticannews.va/en/world/news/2024-11/gaza-war-deaths-exceed-44-thousand-over-13-thousand-children.html
In fact, Israeli IDF data shows 83% of dead in Gaza are civilians. https://ronpaulinstitute.org/horror-israeli-intel-database-reveals-83-killed-in-gaza-are-civilians/
If you believe there are no innocent people in Gaza, then you agree with 64% of Israelis. https://libertarianinstitute.org/news/64-of-israelis-say-no-innocent-people-in-gaza/ That belief is what makes killing small children and babies every day in Gaza a perfectly acceptable thing to Israel.
All Hamas propaganda statements, proving you are also a sucker.
And what about the small children and babies in Sudan and other world trouble spots who are starved and massacred? How many posts of concern have you made for them? Or don’t they count because Jews are not involved?
Suggest you join Greta’s next flotilla. Some time in an Israeli prison might change your POV. [lol]
Sorry, bud, but that’s how war works. The stronger military power kills more people.
FYI – the X (probably not inflated 67K) of children didn’t have to die, because Hamas didn’t have to invade Israel & slaughter 1,200 people & take 250 hostages.
Why The Middle East Won’t Accept Palestinian Refugees (4:02)
3,796,108 views – Nov 1, 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7GAg8sWDpI
“That is how 67,000 Palestinian children and women had to die”
well, in fact none would have died if Hamas hadn’t attacked first. and this isnt how war works, it’s rarely 1:1 death rate. and of those 57,000 about half were Hama.
It should be remembered that Hamas fighters started this war by murdering 1200 Israelis…mostly young people and civilians. In Hamas’s charter, they claim to want the obliteration of Israel. Instead, Gaza was obliterated. It was a political and humanitarian disaster for Gaza. Yet still, no Arab country is willing to take Gazans into their nation. Palistinians have burned a lot of bridges. When America went to war with Germany and Japan, after they were defeated, America occupied those countries…and we’re still occupying those countries, even today.
I’ll believe it when I see it. Hamas started this war, and their losses were astonishing. Sometimes it’s better to fully comprehend that you’ve been defeated, so you can get on with life. Gaza’s people have trouble doing that. If Mexico crossed the border and killed 1200 Americans and took 250 hostages, the response would be dramatic. To grasp what has happened, remember that Japan attacked America and killed over 2000 Americans at Pearl Harbor in 1941. America then declared war on Japan and millions of civilians were killed in bombing raids during that war. There are people who accuse Israel of genocide, but those same people never accuse America of genocide; and America has killed millions of civilians and combatants in the wars of the 20th and 21st centuries.
It was not genocide when the acts were against the criminals of genocide ie., the Japanese. Read more about the Japanese in WWII instead of the whitewashed history put out by the Americans, in a despicable deal with the Japanese war criminals. Japan was not the victims in WWII, they were the aggressors, and not only at Pearl Harbor. They were aggressors throughout East and Southeast Asia into Australia and Burma too.
Reminds me of Tacitus in Agricola 30: “They make a desert, and they call it peace.”
Here’s hoping both sides can use this to end their squabble. I will say that Trump did what Biden refused to and told Bibi to sit down and shut up. I’m predicting a prison cell for him and a long road to recovery for all parties if Israel doesn’t want to get cut off further.
I didn’t get past 2 before it became too much for my suspension of disbelief… but from the signing of the agreement to approximately 7 minutes later, there will be peace once again.
Does this mean “Free Palestine paid protesting will end”?
The Dark Lord Soros shall redirect them to other evil business.
Most people don’t need to be paid to protest the bombing of tens of thousands of children. But those people have moral compasses, habibi.
and yet any rational person who would dare insert the word morality into this cannot think of the last two years of war without first thinking about the savagery inflicted upon innocent civilians, including children, on 10/07/2023. no warnings. no defenses. surrounded by savagery. newsflash … those images were not AI generated. sorry you don’t get to pull down posters of israeli hostages anymore. i guess you’ll just have to wait for greta to shine the light of rage on whatever comes next for leftist lunatics so you can know what to put on your signs and/or who to spit on. maybe go burn some teslas for the time being …
Silly false binaries. The Israeli hostages should never have been taken. NOR the thousands of Palestinian political prisoners held without charge and/or defending their country from illegal occupation. The Israeli civilians should not have been killed NOR the tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians killed before Oct 6th, or expelled from their lawful homes over the past 80 years including this past week. If Israel stops blocking a Palestinian state and lets the Palestinians go back to their homes in what is now Israel, then they can talk about morality. The world is watching. and waiting.
sorry. I thought you were presenting a binary choice between those with a moral compass versus those who do not have one based on the bombing of Palestinian children. I must not be able to read, or maybe you’re trying to dig out of a ditch. if you’re going to interject morality into the topic of war, you better know what you’re doing.
Blame that on the British and the UN.
Also blame the then Arabs (now called Palestinians) in the area who were all offered FULL CITIZENSHIP in the new state of Israel. 20% accepted and to this day, they and their descendants have the exact same rights than any Israel citizen has and live relatively happily in Israel.
The remaining 80% refused to move and called themselves “refugees” becoming a permanent UN welfare case, even given their very own UN agency (UNRWA) dedicated SOLELY to their needs. No other marginalized population in the world has their won UN agency!
Israel should have chased them all into Egypt or Jordan back then. Had they done that, we would not have all the problems these people have caused over the decades and the instability they have brought to the Middle East!
Just curious. Which of the facts I posted above caused 6 of you to thumb down my post?
let’s play another game. name any other region in the world right now where people are being persecuted and or suffering. there’s no lack of places for you to pick from. but I’ll bet you can’t or won’t name any of them. you haven’t been brainwashed and/or told what to think about any of these places yet. you invoking the word morality is offensive. your self-righteousness blinds you.
Deflection from Israel’s war crimes and continued displacement of Palestinians… Are those who support Israel not allowed to mention Oct 7th until they mention each of the other horrors you are alluding too first?
My country funds these war crimes and enables the stomping of Palis legitimate rights. If you do not care, you are not a moral person.
so said another way, i was exactly right.
With all due respect, Bill. If you’re so concerned about self-righteousness, this response should make you look in the mirror.
how does me looking in the mirror help Three blind mice to see her self-righteousness??
Just to be clear, it was not a war for the last two years following the October 7 attack on Israel. There were no battles. Just relentless dropping of bombs and other attacks on a defenseless population in Gaza. No one disputes this; the only question is whether it was justified.
it is not up to you whether or not it was a war, nor is it up to you who was justified. the self-righteousness in this thread, especially given that somebody invoked the word morality, is shocking. Vietnam wasn’t a war either, just a conflict, right? word games have no business when applied to serious matters.
This is not a word game, it is deadly serious. Vietnam was absolutely a war, there were many battles and 50,000 Americans lost their lives fighting before America pulled out in defeat. Everyone who is honest would call that a war, and the President violated the constitution by going to war without congressional approval. As for morality, we have a lot of international law designed to address it. Netanyahu has been indicted by the International Criminal Court, and we will see what happens in the trial.
Perhaps you should step outside of your echo chamber and pay more attention to the news. For example, this article from almost six months ago.
Those arrest warrants are being legally challenged and have now been sent back to a lower court inside of the ICC for reexamination. So sorry for your loss! [lol]
P.S. Justice certainly is slow inside of the ICC!
That was just a procedural appeal that had no effect on the arrest warrant on Netanyahu. The ruling allowed Israel to challenge jurisdiction in the ICC (the prior court said their appeal was not permitted). Note that Israel’s argument is NOT that they didn’t commit war crimes, but rather that the ICC has no jurisdiction over Israel because it has never agreed to recognize the ICC. However, the case brought by the ICC was with regard to activities in Gaza, which has recognized ICC jurisdiction. Thus, it is likely Israel will ultimately lose the appeal.
The arrest warrant against Netanyahu for war crimes is still in effect, which is why he couldn’t fly over Europe to give his speech to the UN last month. https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/25/middleeast/netanyahu-flight-war-crimes-intl
Procedural arguments are valid and work also. Many cases in the US get thrown out because of procedural issues, such as a lack of standing. As they say, whatever works. Still, would be nice to fid some updates as to what has been happening in the 6 months since this throwback occurred.
There are many other procedural tacts that can yet occur without having to get into the messy subject of what is or is not a war crime (sort of like what is the definition of “is”) lol
Oh and don’t forget that the US sanctioned the prosecutor who filed the arrest warrants and four ICC judges. Th ICC can mess around with Israel but when they come after the USA, they are asking for trouble! [lol]
not true. Hamas was still sending rockets into Israel for many months.
if it wasn’t a war, why was there a negotiation with Hamas to end it? why is Hamas disarmament a major sticking point?
let’s play a game. on what standard do you base what you call morality?
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Game on. My morality does not allow for the killing of civilians, defends private property rights and supports self-determination. It does allow for violence in self-defense.
and on what standard to you base “your” morality. morality either is or it is not.
You have no power. Why should anyone pay any attention to what YOU define as morality?
Every single person on this planet has their own definition of what is or is not moral.
This is not what Nutty Yahoo wanted. His end game was to expel the Gazans from their land.
Kudos to Trump for standing up to Nutty. Same as he did when Nutty wanted to drag us into war with Iran.
Netanyahu’s not done trying to get America into a war against Iran, and judging by the American military buildup in the region, he might not even have to do any dragging.
It’s a long game and is still afoot, despite what the media and Trump would have you believe.
Of course they do. They are an aggressive, war-mongering nation intent on subjugating anyone they like, made possible by US tax dollars and diplomatic cover.
Taco said he deserves the Nobel Peace prize and is actively campaign for it.
Like this guy.
What did Barack Obama do to win the Nobel Peace Prize?
The 2009 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to United States president Barack Obama (b. 1961) for his “extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples”.
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Trump exhibits all the trademarks of what used to be derogatorily referred to as the “Nouveau riche”. Like Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack.
What does that guy gotta do to get a little respect around here? Rodney, I mean. Sheesh.
Any fair treatment to OPPRESSED PALESTINIANS will be welcome.
typing in caps … nothing says cool headed and stable like typing in caps. greta … could this really be you?
Maybe if you ignore the Palestinians haven’t lost and are now, today, losing lands, homes and rights at the hands of the Yeshuv/Israelis, you can pretend it didn’t happen.
maybe if you could name one other region in the world right now where people are suffering and being persecuted I’ll believe that you have any sense of what morality is. but yourself righteousness doesn’t allow for that. you are a brainwashed sheep who’s told what to think.
that’s what happens when you keep starting and losing wars.
after WWI and WWII dozens of borders were re-drawn. and the countries that let that be and went on with their lives did well, and the ones who didn’t suffered )balkan wars).
The Palestinians are what would have happened if Jaoan and german surrendered but never gave up their maniacal imperilistic dreams and every so often attacked their neighbors. they would ave been isolated, enclosed and would have had horrible living standards.
every loss by palestinians, every retaliation was in direct response to violence by them. including 1948 and pre-1948 when Palestinains massacred Jews who were buying up land perfectly legally in Palestine (some Jews then formed their own militias and committed atrocities too).
pre intifada the palestinians were living much better than after them. they kept committing stupid violence with zero chance of strategic success. had htey just accepted what happaned in 1948, they would have had an actual, sovreign country whichis more than Palestinian Arabs ever had.
Clearly, since Netanyahu seems to be so eager all the sudden, Trump must’ve said something to scare the shiat out of him.
Israel is running out of friends. I am guessing bombing Qatar was the last straw. Qatar is one of the US’s closest allies in practical terms while Israel isn’t really an ally at all. Israel is more like a client state that gets money. If the US were to turn hostile on Israel there would not be many options left for them.
Netanyahu pretends he’s fine with this ceasefire because he knows he won’t be constrained by it. He’s already signaled to Smotrich and Ben-Gvir that this deal won’t change their plans at all – which is why they haven’t quit the government. He’ll find some Hamas infraction even if he has to do it himself.
Exactly. Looking at the 20 point plan there is no hard obligation that Israel has, and certainly no specified timeframe. Once the hostages are all released, Israel will likely release most of the Palestinian prisoners it has, claim Hamas didn’t comply with some part of the agreement, and go back to ethnically cleansing Gaza. If they don’t, the Israeli government will collapse when Smotrich and Gvir make good on their commitment to pull out of the coalition.
Orange Man Good. Noooooooooooooooo……!!!!!
I hate Trump but he did a good thing and I have zero problems admitting this. he’s done several good things.
Sorry to rain on the parade but the exuberance across the media over a POSSIBLE end to the Gaza war is downright embarrassing, to say the least.
There is an famous old axiom about not counting one’s chickens until they are hatched. This applies to Trump also.
I look forward to Hamas actually releasing ALL the hostages in the next few days so we can eliminate them as a factor. Celebrating Hamas actually following through in advance is a bit fool’s errand though, based on past experience.
Given the lack of any real Hamas leadership, we have the question of whether ALL of Hamas is in agreement (it only takes a few disagreeing renegades to throw a wrench into this agreement) and whether fighters other terrorist factions (e.g. Islamic Jihad and the PLO) are also agreeing to lay down their weapons and walk away from their decades long quixotism.
Looking deeper into the end game, detailed questions such as how to deal with cleaning up Gaza can proceed when the territory is littered with military and environmental pollution that will take decades to remove and which cannot be done with 2 million shiftless Palestinian refugees wandering around stealing everything that isn’t nailed down, so they can sell it to someone else and make a few extra Shekels.
From what I have heard so far, it looks like the world is ready to put the Gazans back on their permanent welfare plan of hundreds of trucks of free food and supplies, delivered to their doorstep daily.
Perhaps we should try this in the USA in our poor areas. There might be a lot less crime if everything anyone wanted is provided for free.
good call … crime in north korea is absolutely lower than in the us.
Hamas should disarm once Israel leaves the WB, EJ, stops blockading Gaza and let’s them have a state. Until then, they need to be able to defend themselves. The PA recognized Israel, disarmed and wasn’t even granted the last 22% of the territory Palestinians inhabited before Zionism. It’s time for Palestinians to have their rights recognized.
[lol[ The Palestinians will NEVER be given a State of their own.
The war will resume in a few weeks to a couple of months.
You seem to believe the Israelis are incorrigibly wedded to snuffing out Palestinian rights and lives. I had hoped for better from them. So far they have disappointed me (and the rest of the world).
Yes, it is sad, but that is reality.
https://www.jfeed.com/news-israel/gaza-civilian-perception-poll
Hamas isn’t a main player in the WB so what happens there should have no bearing on the Gaza Strip. The Israelis were not in Gaza pre the Oct 7 terror attack and Israel will not let the terrorists keep weapons that can be used for future attacks.
Egypt should form the main component of the international forces in Gaza as they already have the troops in Sinai and the logistics to carry out the task.
I doubt the Israelis will ever allow the situation of pre Oct 7 where large numbers of Gazans worked each day in Israel only for them to provide intel on the Israelis homes and families to Hamas. Here in Egypt there are no opportunities for Gazans to cross the border as day labourers so Gaza will have to rely on local jobs like rebuilding (funded by the gulf states?) or getting jobs in the gulf states.
Hamas members better take the opportunity of Trumps deal to get amnesty unless they want to be hunted down like the Munich terrorists.
The point is that Gaza/WB/EJ are all part of one country. Israel wants credit for “leaving” one part while continuing its military occupation/creeping annexation of the others.
“The Israelis were not in Gaza pre the Oct 7 terror attack ” Sort of. They just controlled everything in Gaza remotely since then – borders, phones, population registry. Perhaps you knew this. Maybe if the Israelis took their boots off Pali’s necks in G/WB/EJ, then the Palis would not feel the need to claim their rights by attacking their no-longer oppressors. (Worked for us Americans.) Just a thought.
Not true. Gaza and Judea & Samaria (aka WB) are run by two separate governments. What country has multiple governments? Waiting….
Israel is in the process of dividing Judea & Samaria into two separate areas and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Perhaps you missed this news story?
I’m still waiting for someone/anyone to logically and coherently explain exactly how this Palestine state would function, given that:
On top of all this is the immensely critical issue of how to accommodate an ever-expanding Palestinian population in a geographically limited space. Given the Palestinians inability and/or lack of interest to limit their population and the fact that Gaza previously to Oct 7, 2023 was one of the most densely populated spaces on the planet, how would their ever-growing population be supported? Where could it expand into as it continues to grow without restraint?
Just minor details, yes?
“….where large numbers of Gazans worked each day in Israel only for them to provide intel on the Israelis homes and families to Hamas.”
It went both ways. Some had been recruited by the Israelis to provide intel on Hamas govt leaders.
they PA didn’t live up to the accords, what are you talking about?? PA refused to sign on to Camp David in 2000, and Arafat then started the 2d Intifada which led to hundreds of Israelis being killed in buses, synagogues, restaurants. The PA rejected the offer of a Palestine– it’s true there were huge issues with the offer but they could have built on that, had a sovereign Palestine with universally recognized borders for the first time ever and refused it.
Even today people are arguing about whether it was a good deal for them, to which my response is always: how did that refusal work out for them? Could accepting have conceivably been worse than what the refusal led to?
Having lived in the region the main issue is Arab pride and vengeance thinking where they are ok with doing something everyone including themselves knows is a terrible idea– like, lets kill hundreds of Israelis when that can have zero strategic positive benefit and will lead to many more of them being killed.
What concessions did Israel, Hamas make to reach hostage-ceasefire deal in Gaza?
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-869898
Perhaps we should give some credit to Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson for their coverage of the Charlie Kirk assassination. A lot of pressure was placed on Zionist warmongers who rightfully believed there was a groundswell of belief that Kirk may have been assassinated to clean up potential opposition and influence by Kirk who was pushing back on the Zionist plans to escalate the situations in Gaza and Iran. I will reserve my judgment on the assassination until all the evidence is in– realizing of course that we may not ever get the true story of what happened- Just like the JFK, RFK and MLK assignations, as well as many other conspiracies, widely beleived, but never really resolved.
You are citing as a reliable source, Candace Owens who has created the conspiracy that Macron’s wife was a man?
and yet nobody who listens to candace owens was running around after 10/7/23 saying footage of hamas’s savagery was AI generated.
She didn’t create the conspiracy. Would be very easy for Bridgett to prove it wrong. Just a matter of chromosomes. We’ll see how it plays out.
And yes, based on the evidence candace has produced so far, and a lot of circumstantial evidence, Candace’s questions and observations on the Kirk assassination seem quite plausible-unless of course you always believe the official Government/Establishment version on such events.
Wow! That is a LOT of crazy in a single paragraph.