Trump Heads to Walter Reed
Please consider Trump Will Head to Walter Reed Hospital After Testing Positive for Coronavirus
President Trump is being moved to a hospital on Friday following a positive Covid-19 test that forced officials to cancel White House events and postpone travel, injecting new uncertainty into the final stretch of the 2020 election campaign.
Mr. Trump was being moved to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center based on the recommendation of his physician and medical experts and will work from the presidential offices there in the next few days, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said. She said the president’s symptoms were mild and the move was made out of an abundance of caution.
Earlier Friday, White House physician Sean Conley said the president was fatigued and that first lady Melania Trump, who also tested positive, had a mild cough and headache.
Affects Virtually Nobody
Please recall the Covid statement Trump made at a September 21 rally.
“It affects virtually nobody,” Trump said.
The Cocktail
Trump took an 8 gram dose of Regeneron’s polyclonal antibody cocktail. He is also taking zinc, vitamin D, famotidine, melatonin and a daily aspirin.
Others Testing Positive
- First lady Melania Trump
- Notre Dame President Rev. John Jenkins, who attended the nominating ceremony at the White House on Saturday for Judge Barrett, has tested positive. He was tested before the event but didn’t wear a mask for its duration, which he said Friday was an error in judgment. Neither Mr. Trump nor Judge Barrett wore a mask.
- The Republican National Committee also said Friday that chairwoman Ronna McDaniel tested positive on Wednesday afternoon.
- One of Trump’s top aides, Hope Hicks, was diagnosed with the virus early Thursday.
Correct Response From Biden
Mr. Biden said he was sending prayers that the Trumps will recover quickly. “This is not a matter of politics. It’s a bracing reminder to all of us that we have to take this virus seriously,” he said during an appearance in Grand Rapids, Mich.
Try to imagine Trump responding similarly.
Mish
Trump had oxygen on Friday
Twitter Says You Cannot Tweet That You Hope Trump Dies From COVID https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3zynw/twitter-says-you-cannot-tweet-that-you-hope-trump-dies-from-covid
How many conservatives prayed for the death of Ginsberg
Trump Is in Trouble for a Lot of Reasons, But the K-Shaped Recovery Is a Big One
The president’s happy talk about the bounceback from the pandemic downturn will not resonate with the voters who may have put him over the top last time around https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a34235103/k-shaped-economic-recovery-coronavirus-trump-joe-biden/
So if Trump dies, will it be ruled as WITH Covid or OF Covid, given his age and existing comorbidities?
tRumpVirus
On to remdesivir now.
Second experimental treatment for the president in one day.
Regeneron is supposedly most effective at the very start of the virus. Starting remdesivir indicates perhaps the illness had been present for at least a few more days already.
There are indications that he went to the debate already feeling ill (avoided the “mandatory” pre-debate CV test).
Remdesivir side effects….it ain’t a sugar pill…Randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial in hospitalized adults with severe COVID-19 in China: Adverse events (e.g., constipation, hypoalbuminemia, hypokalemia, anemia, thrombocytopenia, increased total bilirubin concentrations) reported in 66 or 64% of patients who received remdesivir or placebo, respectively. Serious adverse events reported in 18 or 26%, respectively, and drug discontinued because of adverse events in 12 or 5%, respectively.
Phase 3, adaptive, randomized, placebo-controlled trial in hospitalized adults with mild/moderate or severe COVID-19 (NCT04280705; ACTT-1): Serious adverse events (e.g., cardiac events, respiratory distress or failure, acute kidney injury, hypotension) reported in 21% in remdesivir group and 27% in placebo group; grade 3 or 4 adverse events occurred in 29% in remdesivir group and 33% in placebo group. Most common nonserious grade 3 or greater adverse events in remdesivir group were anemia or decreased hemoglobin concentrations (8%); acute kidney injury, decreased eGFR or Clcr, or increased Scr (7%); pyrexia (5%); hyperglycemia or increased blood glucose concentrations (4%); and increased ALT and/or AST concentrations (4%); these were reported in 3–9% of patients in placebo group.
Phase 3, randomized, open-label trial in hospitalized adults with severe COVID-19 (NCT04292899; GS-US-540-5773; SIMPLE-Severe): Adverse events reported in 70 or 74% of patients who received a 5- or 10-day remdesivir regimen, respectively; serious adverse events (e.g., respiratory distress or failure, septic shock) reported in 21 or 35%, respectively, and grade 3 or greater adverse events reported in 30 or 43%, respectively. Drug discontinued because of adverse events in 4% of patients in 5-day group and 10% of patients in 10-day group. All-cause mortality at day 28 was 10 or 13% in the 5- or 10-day group, respectively. Most common adverse events overall were nausea (10 or 9%), acute respiratory failure (6 or 11%), increased ALT concentrations (6 or 8%), and constipation (7% in both groups),
Remdesivir has a HORRIBLE safety profile and provides NO BENEFIT in death rates.
Only benefit is that people getting it who would have otherwise survived Covid get out from hospital a few days earlier.
This is totally insane load of stuff from Walter Reed!
Are the doctors at Walter Reed incompetent or are they trying to kill Trump?
Specially because Trump has high cholesterol and slight obesity he SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN the failed cancer drug Remdesivir that Gilead picked up an branded as Covid medication despite NO BENEFIT in death rates and SEVERE heart complications and brain complications for many patients which are blamed on Covid but which are affecting those who got Remdesivir.
Trump should have been given:
HCQ+Doxycline+Zinc+D-vitamin and continue his usual Aspirin and melatonin.
“Trump should have been given:
HCQ+Doxycline+Zinc+D-vitamin and continue his usual Aspirin and melatonin.”
Ha ha ha. I am sure that would have went over well with all the TV MD’s! They would have equated this to witch doctoring.
For older patients like Trump with obesity he should be on Hydroxychloroquine that was shown in the Henry Ford Hospitals study to lower death rates over -50% in patients who were so sick from Covid they needed to be hospitalized if given immediately after hospitalization.
Instead of Regeneron’s antibody cocktail Trump should be on antibiotic called Doxycline in addition to Hydroxychloroquine to create the highest chance of survival.
(since Z-pak (azithromycin) can prolong QTc interval and Hydroxychloroquine has in very rare cases prolonged QTc interval the early use of Hydroxychloroquine+Z-pak while curing most with Covid showed some adverse effects and deaths, which Hydroxychloroquine itself has been not shown to cause):
It is good that Trump is using Zinc because it is an ionophore and prevents Covid replication and access to lungs:
It is good that Trump uses D-vitamin because people with adequate D-vitamin have shown to be 52% less likely to die from Covid based on Boston University study:
WTF is happening at Walter Reed that they give Trump Regeneron’s antibody cocktail and Remdesivir on the SAME DAY?
Regeneron’s antibody cocktail is in clinical trials and has had averse effects and the clinical trials were done on 40-year old people!
Remdesivir has a horrible safety profile compared to HCQ and Remdesivir provides NO BENEFIT in death rates when HCQ provides over -50% lower death rates all by itself and likely better with Doxycline and Zinc.
Zinc is not an ionophore. Zinc is the ion. Zn++ inhibits the action of RDRP. But Zn ions cannot cross the cell membrane. That’s where the HCQ comes in. It helps the Zn++ ions across the membrane. Ionophore (Grk, ion=going, phore=carry), as in phosphor (Gk light bearing) or Christophor (Christ bearing).
There are other substances which also seem to function as does hydroxycholoquine to get the Zn ions into the cell, such as quercetin and green tea and other substances with flavenoids. Green tea contains EGCG, a polyphenol (flavenoid).
This works for other viruses as well. RDRP is a protein that the virus lets the cell produce, and is instrumental in reading/transcribing the genome to replicate the RNA sequence. Zn++ ions inhibit its action, and therefore interferes with viral replication.
It is thus not correct to say hcq + zinc, one could better say zinc + hcq. Better levels of serum zinc alone are not enough without a way to cross the cell membrane. HCQ may have other anti-viral effects (altering PH levels, and others) than just as an ionophore. Whether supplemental zinc is needed depends on whether the serum zinc levels are low or adequate.
Incidentally, this also implies that any clinical trial of hcq which doesn’t monitor serum zinc levels is a crock. Application at early disease onset is a condition for all anti-virals, since there will be little effect after the virus has replicated itself all over and starts to cause havoc with your system.
Remdesivir should have NEVER been approved for the treatment of Covid because it provides NO BENEFIT in death rates and has many serious side effects and complications and only benefit is for sick people who would have survived Covid anyway to get out of hospital a few days earlier.
“Safety profile of the antiviral drug remdesivir: An update
Qianqian Fan and Bo Zhang
Department of Pharmacy, Peking Union Medical College Hospital,
Jie Ma*
Department of Nephrology, Peking Union Medical College Hospital, Beijing
Shuyang Zhang**
Department of Cardiology, Peking Union Medical College Hospital,
The expanding epidemic of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), caused by the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), has posed a serious threat to the global public health. There is an urgent demand for safe and effective therapeutics. Remdesivir, a broad-spectrum antiviral drug, emerges as a potential candidate for fighting against COVID-19 because of its potent in vitro anti-SARS-CoV-2 activity [1] and encouraging benefits for the infected patients [2]. However, with increasing application, adverse effects of remdesivir have been detected and become a concern of clinicians. Since current safety data about remdesivir is fragmented and limited, we reviewed published studies and official documents regarding remdesivir treatment and summarize the up-to-date safety information, especially in COVID-19 patients (Table 1 ), to provide evidence for clinical practices.
Hepatotoxicity. Toxicity studies of remdesivir in animals showed no liver changes, while transient treatment-emergent elevations in aminotransferases were noticed in clinical studies of remdesivir [3]. In a case series, increased aminotransferases following remdesivir initiation were observed in three COVID-19 patients [4]. Lescure et al. also reported one COVID-19 patient discontinued remdesivir because of alanine aminotransferase elevation and rash, which then decreased within 3 days [5]. According to Grein et al.’s study on compassionate-use remdesivir against COVID-19, 23 % of the patients reported increased hepatic enzymes, and two of them therefore discontinued remdesivir prematurely [2]. A recent randomized controlled trial (RCT) in China also showed that total bilirubin, aspartate and alanine aminotransferase increased, respectively, in 10 %, 5 % and 1 % of COVID-19 patients in the remdesivir group versus 9 %, 12 % and none of COVID-19 patients in the placebo group [6]. More patients in the remdesivir group than the placebo group discontinued the study drug because of aminotransferase or bilirubin increases [6]. However, it should be noted that frequent incident liver injury was observed in COVID-19 patients [7], therefore it is challenging to distinguish whether the elevations in aminotransferases and/or bilirubin attributed to remdesivir or to the underlying diseases. As recommended by European Medicines Agency, remdesivir should not be used with other hepatotoxic drugs and hepatic function monitoring is required during the treatment [8]. Since most COVID-19 patients with liver injury had mild aminotransferases and/or bilirubin increases [7], if abnormality of liver enzymes occur after remdesivir initiation, especially in high levels, adverse drug reactions need to be considered and drug discontinuation is required if necessary.
Gastrointestinal symptoms. According to a case series in which three COVID-19 patients were treated with remdesivir, two had nausea and one suffered from gastroparesis after the treatment initiation [4]. Diarrhea was observed in 9 % of the remdesivir recipients in Grein et al.’s study [2]. Based on a RCT in China, a higher proportion of remdesivir recipients than placebo recipients had dosing prematurely stopped because of anorexia, nausea, and vomiting [6].
Respiratory toxicity. Safety studies of remdesivir in animals showed no adverse effects on respiration except for transiently increased respiration rates [3]. However, acute respiratory distress syndrome (4 %) and pneumothorax (4 %) were reported after the infusion of remdesivir in Grein et al.’s study [2]. Based on the findings from a RCT in China, more patients in the remdesivir group than the placebo group suffered from respiratory failure or acute respiratory distress syndrome (10 % versus 8 %) and therefore discontinued the study drug (5 % versus 1 %) [6].
Cardiovascular toxicity. No side effect of remdesivir on cardiovascular parameters was observed in safety studies on monkeys [3]. However, one case of hypotension was judged to be potentially related to remdesivir in a RCT of experimental therapies against Ebola [9]. In Grein et al.’s study, hypotension (8 %), atrial fibrillation (6 %) and hypernatremia (6 %) were observed in COVID-19 patients treated with remdesivir [2]. What is more, one case of cardiac arrest was reported in remdesivir group in a RCT in China [6].
Nephrotoxicity. Although there was no evidence of remdesivir-related nephrotoxicity in Phase I clinical studies, dose-dependent kidney injury and/or reduced function was detected in the repeated dose toxicity studies of remdesivir in animals, which correlated with histopathology findings of renal tubular atrophy, basophilia and casts [3]. Grein et al. reported renal impairments, acute kidney injury and hematuria in 8 %, 6 % and 4 % of the remdesivir recipients, respectively [2]. A COVID-19 patient, who was treated by our team in Wuhan in March 2020, suffered from acute renal failure after using remdesivir. This case was also reported in a RCT in China [6]. Therefore, it is important to monitor kidney function during remdesivir treatment, particularly for those with pre-existing renal impairments or those receiving combination therapies with other nephrotoxins.
Reproductive toxicity. Reproductive and development toxicity studies in animals revealed remdesivir had no effect on reproductive functions in males or on embryo-fetal and peri-postnatal development, but effect on fertility parameters in female rats were notably found [3]. Although it is not recommended to use in pregnant women, remdesivir treatment is necessary in some cases after weighing the pros and cons. Based on previous application against Ebola, remdesivir appears to be safe in human pregnancies [9]. However, the safety of remdesivir in this special group of patients needs to be further evaluated by therapeutic trials which include pregnant women of COVID-19.
Other adverse effects. Transient rise in serum amylase was reported in an Ebola-infected patient treated with remdesivir [10]. Grein et al.’s study mentioned rash, multiple-organ-dysfunction syndrome, deep-vein thrombosis, delirium, septic shock, pyrexia as adverse events occurred in remdesivir recipients [2]. Adverse events related to hematologic, circulatory, endocrine and other systems were also detected in the remdesivir group in the RCT in China [6].
The current safety profile of remdesivir is still incomplete. Increasing evidence has witnessed COVID-19 is implicated in injuries of multiple organs including lung, liver, gastrointestinal tract, heart and kidney [7,[11], [12], [13]], hence it is complex to distinguish the underlying causes of adverse events during remdesivir treatment. Moreover, the latest safety data from Grein et al.’s study on compassionate-use remdesivir which reported adverse events in 60 % of the patients and the RCT in China which reported adverse events in 66 % of remdesivir recipients versus 64 % of placebo recipients might be limited by the inclusion criteria, finite sample size and follow-up duration. Since the experience of remdesivir application in the newly emerging COVID-19 is still limited, adverse drug effects need to be paid much attention to.
No worries. This will all be detailed in unreadable point 4 font size on the drug warning labels. Meanwhile, patients will be depicted smiling and happy as they roll themselves out of the hospital in the TV commercials.
“to get out of hospital a few days earlier”
Yes. 11 instead of 15 days. But only for a selection of patients: those without mild, moderate, or severe disease, but moderately severe, and those who had had supplemental oxygen but not invasively. Pretty selective. And this observation was incidental to the study, not what was being tested.
That’s it. That’s all that you can say to recommend it.
“Regeneron is supposedly most effective at the very start of the virus. Starting remdesivir indicates perhaps the illness had been present for at least a few more days already.”
Everything seems to be pointing to someone in the group being infected before Sat. (may be Trump himself) and the maskless ceremony for the SCOTUS nominee, spreading it further. Five days to symptoms.
“There are indications that he went to the debate already feeling ill (avoided the “mandatory” pre-debate CV test).”
There were several articles on how he look unwell. Maybe it was the covid starting to take hold.
Maskless ceremony? It was outside! Any breeze with that volume of air means the dispersal dilution half-time can be measured in milliseconds. Being outside is infinitely more protection than masks.
the doctors are clearly worried. sounds like they are throwing the kitchen sink at trump’s virus. all these medications have side effects. they’re doing it because of risk and reward analysis. from the actions we’ve seen its reasonable to assume trump’s condition is worse than being let on.
Add bill stepien and Kellyanne Conway. With Parscale under investigation for stealing campaign money the campaign is effectively shut down
‘God-tier genetics’: A stunned MAGA world offers blame, adulation after Trump’s diagnosis
Mainstream MAGA figures were resolutely optimistic, while the fringes pushed new, baseless conspiracies about the Democrats and China planting the virus.
10/02/2020
Donald Trump’s coronavirus diagnosis has stunned MAGA world, but it hasn’t changed how it reacts to bad news: blame others, accuse the left of craven behavior and cling tighter to the president.
Another one gets the bug. An early Christmas, indeed!
2 Oct 2020
Kellyanne Conway says she tested positive for COVID-19
Oh DAMN! I was hoping it was Bill Barr!
“Out of caution, an ordinary American goes to hospital to check his illness…”
AND GETS 60K MEDICAL BILL HIS INSURANCE IF HE HAS ANY DOESN’T COVER.
Welcome to Capitalist America.
The cure is Socialized Medicine.
Zeke Emanuel
@ZekeEmanuel
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4h
I’ve been in this hospital. The “presidential offices at Walter Reed” are called “hospital rooms.”
….Likewise, for all its promise, the antibody cocktail Trump has taken is still an unknown quantity.
As Dmitry Korkin, a bioinformatics researcher at the Worcester Polytechnic Institute in Massachusetts put it, the president’s case “must be serious enough for them to resort to a treatment that is only about to enter large-scale clinical trials now.”…
Not really. Trump just has to be freaked out enough.
“Neither Mr. Trump nor Judge Barrett wore a mask” – I’ve read that judge Barrett had C-19 earlier this year, so she’d be immune for up to 18 months if true.
Barrett did have a genuine case where she did get sick. March I believe.
People HAVE gotten reinfected in as little as 5 weeks….
Documented cases of reinfection are extremely rare. In most cases the reinfection or positive tests are an artefact of PCR testing vagaries, and not an actual reinfection. For almost all people, having had the disease will afford immunity for a long time, especially since we now know that T-Cell reactivity plays a much larger role than first assumed. (Waning) antibodies are not a big concern. Antibodies correlate to the severity of the infection, which means the T-Cells did not activate quickly enough, a condition associated with age, as is the impact of this virus.
Uh, more like 2 to 3 months…
Hicks tested positive. Does she have any symptoms? RT RCR tests are notoriously sensitive and the great majority of positive subjects never get sick. Anything replicated more that 25 times is too sensitive. 95% accurate tests are replicated 40 times, 70% accurate tests are replicated 34 times.
High fever, loss of sense of smell…
Wow more craziness in the election. Maybe this is trumps way of bowing out. If it was like my case hes gonna be fatigued for a long time after two weeks.
The Democrats are in the majority now (a healthy majority, if you will…) in the Senate judiciary committee.
I trust there is no urgent business to be conducted there while the ill Republicans recover.
Looks like the Republican Barrett love-fest at the WH had some univited but inevitable guests…
Nice for Trump benefiting from Venezuelian style Socialized Healthcare (but w/o the illegal US sanctions & illegal invasions). Now if only he’d have extended the same socialized healthcare to us, we’d be healthier, living longer, wealthier, and more likely to vote to reelect him.
Conspiracy theory–watch the walk of “Trump” to the helicopter to Walter Reed.
This guy looks thinner, walks differently, and is wearing a mask.
Some democrat said he “wouldn’t be stunned” if the whole thing were an effort to change the news from the white supremacy and other bad news. NYT or WAPO this morning.
They say this in order to not panick the public?
I think it’s more to prevent widespread celebration.
Ah yeah, don’t panic… the deep state has never lost control, it’s just the actors that are getting sick. They are replaceable.
Has a US President ever received the maximum dose of an experimental medical treatment before? For only “moderate symptoms”?
That is my concern, he must be in worse shape than they are reporting. A experimental drug, without any trial? This does not sound right.
Monoclonal antibodies have a good record, and this one has had some testing.
Experimental sounds risky, but intubating people on ventilators is far more risky. In China 95% died, in one NY study 97.5%. Surviving a ventilator does not mean you will see the end of the year. I for sure would go for an experimental drug if the alternative was a therapy with 90% mortality.
Hard to say if this is like Trump hiding out in the bunker because some protesters were in a park across the street from the White House, or if his case is not as “mild” as we are told. His doctor faked his height and weigh which can be measured. “Mild” is entirely in the eye of the beholder. “Tis only a scratch”.
That night that Trump was taken to the bunker by Secret Service as their protocol dictated over 50 Secret Service agents got hurt by “peaceful protesters” throwing frozen water bottles, rocks, bricks, glass bottles etc. at Secret Service agents from among the peaceful protesters just yelling obscenities that Antifa and other extremists use as cover to hide among.
The lights on Whitehouse were turned off because Secret Service genuinely feared that perimeters would be breached and Whitehouse would be attacked and there were snipers on the roof for that possibility and so they would get a good shot if Whitehouse would be attacked the outer lights were turned off from the Whitehouse.
When there was those kinds of attacks against Secret Service agents that night it was entirely plausible there could be 10 people with guns among the peaceful protesters ready to attack on command and in that case Trump’s life could have been genuinely in danger because 2-5 could have reached the Whitehouse if 50 people broke through the Secret Service line between the park and Whitehouse with the 10 armed ones among them and the snipers only managed to drop 5-8 of them.
It was the same night that “peaceful protesters” burned down the kiosk in the Park and tried to burn down the church which was only prevented by Secret Service using tear gas that night to clear the street next to the church from “peaceful protesters” to allow firetrucks to get to the church and put out the fire.
Those “peaceful protesters” tried to arson the church and did arson the kiosk in the park and attacked Secret Service agents and defaced the Lincoln Memorial and the peaceful protesters provided them cover and just celebrated the arson of the church and arson of the kiosk and attacks against Secret Service agents.
Trump made in my opinion a mistake to not to reveal what happened that night and he did this because he was afraid he would seem weak.
AG Barr gave the order to clear the park immediately after he came to work the next morning but lower level officials and Secretary of the Defense stalled until there was no time to do it properly and officials rushed the clearout and thereby gave Democrats and media a talking point to use against Trump and this talking point was aided by Trump himself because he shushed what had really happened the previous night and how Secret Service was nearly overpowered by Antifa thugs who should be arrested and tried as terrorists.
Source?
He would still kick you ass Missy
You’re confusing a whiner with a tough guy….
Don’t feed the trolls njbr, just flag it and HIDE his posts.
How do you hide posts Herkie?
Most comments have a
^HIDE Inside a cartouch you can hit.
You think Trump, an obese old man, can take on anyone fit and healthy? He would kick my ass? You don’t know who you are talking to.
Hah, with Trumps centre of gravity I seriously doubt he could kick at someone without toppling backwards
It’s not looking good. Fatigue. There’s been a marked escalation from low grade to high fever, from mild to moderate symptoms, to an experimental drug at the highest possible dosage , and now being airlifted to Walter Reed
as always the demon rat beta
Yeah I wonder how much per dose that new cocktail costs? It is an artificial version of the blood plasma from a person that survived Covid. God forbid he get plasma from a black or Mexican right? 8 grams. That must be millions of dollars worth. The helicopter ride alone cost enough to have treated dozens of treatments for people who are sick and have no insurance. Well maybe not dozens, I am still getting bills where the VA paid for my visit to the ER in May. The hospital billed $15,000, radiology another $1,600, today I got a notice that the doctor charged over $400 and I talked with the guy less than 4 minutes, he never listened to my breathing even. Who knows how much more was charged that have not trickled in yet? Can you imagine if you were uninsured and soley responsible for the debt?
I was in the ER less than 4 hours. Still no lab charges yet.
No wonder heathcare is broken and the country is going bankrupt.
A thought did just come to me though, I had a flu shot last weekend. They claim that flu shots can’t make you ill. That a study showed the same reactions exactly between flu shots and salt water shots, so it must be in people’s heads, psychosomatic. The opposite of the placebo effect.
I got the shot, my arm hurt a bit for two days and I never thought about it again, but woke Tuesday feeling rough. Was downrigt sick last night.
Keep in mind any “hospital billed” amount is total BS. According to someone I knew who has spent his life in the biz and wrote a book about it, even the amount the insurance paid is BS. Both are artificially high.
My wife once was in a hospital and someone came by every day. We called him “Dr. Good Morning”. That was his contribution. He’s your $400 doctor. We complained. He was taken off the bill.
What we need is an even bigger monopoly. That’ll fix everything. 🙂
Healthcare costs so much because of health insurance so you are thanking the system that creates the high cost of healthcare for you not having to pay the high cost of hospital bills while health insurance costs are destroying competitiveness of American companies and driving ever increasing federal debt levels.
Also thank Trump for making VA choice come true otherwise you would be paying those bills or still waiting in a VA waiting list to be seen.
The healthcare+health insurance system in USA is a monopoly where both health insurance companies and hospital companies benefit from high cost of healthcare which creates the high cost of health insurance and vice versa.
Exactly right. It’s a synthetic version of the plasma. The problem with plasma is that antibody levels in recovered people drop fast, so the amount of antibodies in plasma is highly inconsistent. By making antibodis synthetically, they can get a consistent amount of antibodies.
My guesses? Yes, it probably will work, primarily because they gave it early in the treatment. Cheap OTC drugs that might work, if given early, are never tested to see if they really do work when given early because they low profit items, and the cost of a study isn’t worth it. By contrast, this is patented, and no doubt very expense, so it’s well worth doing a study, and doing it right, giving it to people early, when it might help. I expect it will get an EUA soon, because it is expensive. I expect HCQ and Ivermectin to get one never, because they are cheap.
“the cost of a study isn’t worth it”
Unless you’re counting in lives instead of dollars.
The studies will come, but from Bangladesh and India.
Sorry to hear about your situation Herkie. But I’m coming from a country with a centralised health system ad a functioning private health insurance sector.
Last time I needed an ER treatment, it cost me Zero. Private health insurance covered the paramedic ride to the hospital. Hospital costs were zero.
With all them Trillions the Fed is handing out to the 1%, surely a billion or so could be diverted to set up a proper government funded Medicare system
BI you are right.
In fact, I say that if you get rid of private for obscene profit health insurance and make doctors and hospitals return to the practice of medicine rather than having to hire office managers, and accounting staff, and coders for billing, and building fabulous bone palaces in every city by competing supposedly non-profit entities so that the redundancies run to the billions in every hamlet in America, we could afford to pay for it with what the government now spends on Medicare and Medicaid.
That would mean the end of premiums that are mostly paid by businesses, thus giving them the biggest tax break in the history of capitalism, and relieving the population of the burden to pay the remainder along with co-pays and deductibles. It would end the insecurity of care, as well as satisfying the claim that healthcare is a right, even as it puts an end to one of the most divisive arguments in American politics once and for all.
But, the majority of the right have been hornswoggled into believing that if we alter the broken healthcare system in any way they might have to sit in a waiting room with colored people! Jesus Christ we can’t have that, can we?
We will never have decent healthcare in America till this changes, and as long as medicine is private for profit that is just not going to change, it will get worse and bankrupt the nation.
I do not pay for that care either because I am a 100% disabled veteran, the taxpayers pay it, and I have zero sympathy for them as long as they maintain that this is the only workable system. What do they expect people to do? DIE? Based on credit score or net worth? Because more than 60% of all Americans now have zero or less net worth. There is no way they could pay any bill for care on their own as the right wing insists is proper. I only post these bills to show them that costs are nothing short of insane and to prove their argument that there be no controls on or right to care is the root of the problem.
It will change, because this system is a fatal flaw in the United States, they have a choice, they can be part of constructive change, or they can have socialist change imposed upon them whether they like it or not, and nobody will like a NHS cooked up by just one party. That is why nobody really LIKES the ACA, it is a flawed and imposed system. I am a democrat and I hate the ACA, it is a total failure that protects nobody. The only thing is it is better than nothing at all, but rather than changing our care system it protects it from personal bankruptcies related to healthcare costs so entrenches a bad system. Still it was the best the left could do with the right refusing any changes to a broken system of any kind.
Well, he’s getting quite a return on his $750 tax payment….
Dosages usually go by body weight. Trump could easily require double the dose of a more modest person.
You’re a dope Mish and you’re embarrassing yourself.
Maybe he can complete his annual physical there.
Two birds, one stone.
Thoughts and prayers, baby!!