1,500 Army Paratroopers on Alert for Deployment to Minnesota

“We are taking prudent steps to prepare active-duty Army forces,” an official told ABC News.

Active-Duty Soldiers on Standby for Deployment

ABC News reports Active-Duty Soldiers on Standby, 2 Defense Officials Say

Some 1,500 active duty Army paratroopers have been put on alert for a potential deployment to Minnesota, according to two defense officials.

The soldiers are from the 11th Airborne Division, based at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson in Alaska, one of the Army’s premier infantry formations and a frontline force in the U.S. military presence in the Pacific, positioned to help deter China. The division is also the military’s leading formation for Arctic warfare.

One official said the president had not made a final decision on whether to deploy two battalions. The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

“We are taking prudent steps to prepare active-duty Army forces,” the official said. “This doesn’t mean they will deploy; we are preparing options.”

The 11th Airborne troops were recalled to base on Friday, amid the long holiday weekend, to stand by as a so-called quick reaction force, a rapid-deployment force, according to an internal notice to the unit’s leadership, reviewed by ABC News.

Trump Is Threatening to Invoke the Insurrection Act in Minnesota

Yesterday, the Wall Street Journal reported Trump Is Threatening to Invoke the Insurrection Act in Minnesota

The 19th-century law would allow Trump to deploy the military inside the U.S. It would be the first use of the emergency federal power for domestic law enforcement in over three decades.

What is the Insurrection Act?

The Insurrection Act is a law that authorizes the president to use military force for civilian law-enforcement in the U.S. in a narrow set of circumstances. It is an exception to the Posse Comitatus Act that typically places strict limits on how federal forces can be used on U.S. soil.

It permits calling in federal forces whenever the president “considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States” make it impossible to enforce laws through normal judicial procedures.

It also allows Trump to use the military when an insurrection or similar action deprives someone of a constitutional right and state authorities don’t remedy the situation. He can also send in federal forces, the law says, when such a group “opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.”

The law as written is extremely broad, and many of the terms it uses don’t have concrete definitions, said Laura Dickinson, a professor at George Washington University’s law school.

Nevertheless, she said, it has been interpreted by both parties for centuries as a final-resort emergency option to be used only when law and order has completely broken down.

“If it were invoked now, we would be in uncharted waters,” Dickinson said.

It was most recently used by President George H.W. Bush in 1992—at the request of California’s governor—to aid with civil unrest over the acquittal of four Los Angeles police officers in the beating of Rodney King, the center said.

Could it be challenged in court?

Any invocation of the act will almost certainly be challenged in court.

It will raise several questions, including how much deference the courts should give to the president’s interpretation of the situation on the ground. While the act is historically understood as a last-ditch tool for absolute emergencies—such as when law cannot be carried out because courts have been forced to close—the Trump administration is likely to argue, as it has in similar cases, that the courts don’t have the authority to second-guess the president’s judgment.

The law’s vague language will also play a key role, said Dickinson, the law professor. Some experts say the lack of a clear definition for terms like “rebellion” will grant the president wide discretion. Others say that invoking it under these conditions so deeply contradicts the act’s principles that it is unlikely to survive legal scrutiny.

Harold Hongju Koh, a Yale Law School professor, said a use of the act in these circumstances so plainly violates the idea of the law that any ambiguity in the wording wouldn’t be enough for the Trump administration to prevail.

“The entire thing is antithetical to the history and tradition of the Constitution, which is what the Supreme Court cares so much about,” he said.

Does this mean federal troops will police Americans?

While the act suspends Posse Comitatus, it doesn’t necessarily mean that the National Guard or armed forces would involve themselves directly in law-enforcement. The military hasn’t been trained to police Americans, and traditionally has been vehemently opposed to the idea of doing so.

Why Hasn’t Trump Invoked the Insurrection Act Yet?

That’s a good question and that answer isn’t clear.

5 Possible Reasons Trump Has Held Off

  1. Trump’s legal team thinks the Supreme Court would squash it.
  2. Trump would prefer a more violent reaction in Minneapolis than what’s happened so far.
  3. The US military would be more professional and better trained than Ice.
  4. Trump’s Military experts advise against doing this.
  5. Ranking Military leaders advise against doing this.

I suspect it is some combination of those but it’s impossible to weight accurately.

Meanwhile, Trump Hits European Nations With Tariffs Until Deal Reached to Buy Greenland

If you need another reason IEEPA tariffs are idiocy, you have one.

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Augustine
Augustine
24 days ago

Anyone who believes that Alaskan paratroopers are being deployed in MN is living under a rock and didn’t notice the military movements to invade Greenland.

David
David
26 days ago

I love it. You virtue signalling mostly white and some hispanic names are championing the states and cities you are moving out of!!

LOFL at your virtual signaling hypocrisy!!!!!!

As posted here:
what nonsense. these “sanctuary states” account for most of the U.S. economy and innovation: Cali., NY, Mass, Ill.,

3 out of 4 of these states are losing population on an annual basis for many years now and MA is right up there.

OMG fucking hysterical. You people have no shame

merv conlan
merv conlan
26 days ago

Minneapolis and the so-called ‘State’ its in?? Waaaay overdue

Avery2
Avery2
26 days ago
Reply to  merv conlan

I hope the Mary Tyler Moore statue is ok.

David
David
26 days ago
Reply to  Avery2

LMMFAO! You are on fire man

PS: I am sure the Prine statue and museum is fine too. In all truth he is a talented guy and an under rated guitar player

Jeff Kassel
Jeff Kassel
26 days ago

Trump is a jerk, a bully and a pig as he inflames Minneapolis after ICE agents murdered a US citizen in an outrageous act of lawless violence. Trump is addicted to publicity and pushing around people, companies, law firms, universities, whole countries. It’s hard to believe that Americans elected this cockroach who is burning down America’s alliances and antagonizing Canada, Mexico, Britain, France, Denmark, Greenland, Norway, Germany and basically the rest of the world….He’s wrecked America’s international reputation as a beacon of democracy, freedom and fairness, and is an embarrassment to our country. Republicans in the Senate & House sit silently as is damages our country because they fear his MAGA voters. Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham despise Trump, but they sing his praises because they love their seats in the Senate more than they love protecting America. They were sharply critical of Trump in 2016, but when their approval numbers dropped into the 30s, they turned on a dime and backed Trump up 100%.

Avery2
Avery2
26 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Kassel

Gets one wondering how / why he got there.

Last edited 26 days ago by Avery2
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
25 days ago
Reply to  Avery2

He acted like many of his voters live their lives, and they could relate, so they pulled the lever. “Hey, he’s just like me!”

Albert
Albert
26 days ago

It would be outrageous to unleash the US military on American citizens whose only “fault” is that they disagree with the politics of the president. This is beyond banana republic.

David
David
26 days ago
Reply to  Albert

Keep upvoting this virtue signaling post. I am sure it makes you feel good.

Meanwhile in the real world, right now paid protestors are violently assaulting people

I just saw a video of a guy, looks latino, he ain’t white, he has a jacket on that has the American flag and they told him to take it off or he was going to get assaulted.
Yesterday I saw a photo of young black guy, could not be older than 25. somalia or african american, in broad daylight leaning on the hood of a car with a rifle
Saw another video of cars being stopped by paid protestors and asking questions of their affiliation and how they feel about ICE

Innocent people can not even walk the streets now.

The police are standing down.

The Governnor and Mayor now own this shit

Antifa groups are there. You know, the group you democrats say does not exist
You know the guys that spent 250k of mommy & daddies money on some stupid college degree and now can only get a job at a local starbucks so they have to take it out on somebody

Expect a post from Mike about how now the national guard and/or some other government force actually comes in and will start enforcing the law

And its going to be violent.

You upvoters can virtual signal away now.

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Jon
Jon
26 days ago
Reply to  David

I’m surprised you didn’t provide evidence of paid protesters in this post.

David
David
26 days ago
Reply to  Jon

You seriously do not think there are paid protestors?

A 10 second Utube search will tell you

Wow, you liberals are in denial

The Sunrise Movement is one
How about the group that was paying the woman shot?
Unidos MN
Defend the 612

Are you that far in denial about what the democratic party is doing?

You are part of the problem in this country and you may not think so but you are contributing to the chaos in this country

Do a search……….I know you won’t. Really Jon you are part of the problem in this country you are just to arrogant to understand it

Last edited 26 days ago by David
Tom
Tom
26 days ago
Reply to  David

And in 5 seconds I can get a video of a pedophile flipping a bird for being called the pedophile.
Six seconds more and he’s claiming the construction just gets in the way.

I can also find videos of cats and dogs.

More importantly, I can find lots of videos that are completely fake on any subject of political nature. Consider the source.

David
David
26 days ago
Reply to  Tom

groups not from that city are coming in an rioting.

I hope it happens in your city Tom

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
25 days ago
Reply to  David

You love the fear bait, David, anyone observing other than you can see it plain as day.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
25 days ago
Reply to  David

Sorry David but we don’t base our facts on just anyone’s ten second Youtube videos. The world is more complex than that.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
25 days ago
Reply to  David

Paid protestors? And you talk about virtue signaling? I see “Obama’s gay chemtrails” seriously damaged your critical thinking abilities.

Bam_Man
Bam_Man
26 days ago

Are they going to have them parachute jumping out of C-130’s in the skies over the Twin Cities? That would be quite a Trumpian spectacle – 1,800 big, beautiful parachutes.

Last edited 26 days ago by Bam_Man
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
25 days ago
Reply to  Bam_Man

Raining 50 caliber fire as they descend

Flavia
Flavia
26 days ago

Too funny!
ICE agents hit by snowballs, and falling down on the ice…..so Trump gonna send Arctic paratroopers to help…..

David
David
26 days ago
Reply to  Flavia

Really? Thats all you know that is going on now?

Perhaps you are not has smart as you think you are?

Tom
Tom
26 days ago
Reply to  David

He’s probably aware that there are US citizens being murdered in Minnesota by people wearing police costumes.
He’s aware that this is a violation of this country.

You are not

David
David
26 days ago
Reply to  Tom

Its on both sides now pal.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
25 days ago
Reply to  David

*It’s

you’re really terrible at this

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
25 days ago
Reply to  David

*That’s
and “as smart” not “has smart”

Consider the source

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
26 days ago

What a pussy this pig is.

David
David
26 days ago
Reply to  El Trumpedo

And there you are with your 2nd grade commentary

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
25 days ago
Reply to  David

He’s well past beginner spelling and grammar, unlike you.

Curtis
Curtis
27 days ago
  1. “Trump’s legal team thinks the Supreme Court would squash it.”

Haha. It’s correct legal term is actually “quash” it. Not squash it. Sure makes your analysis entertaining and frivolous fun.

Frosty
Frosty
26 days ago
Reply to  Curtis

Ever hear of “Auto correct”?

😉

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
26 days ago
Reply to  Frosty

Squash works fine in context anyway

Dean Falk
Dean Falk
27 days ago

The alleged president Donny is basically following Germanys script from the 1930s AKA a fascist takeover note there is no insurrection hence no need for Insurrection Act. Besides that it is Donny Blanche Bondi and Bovino wiping their ass with the US Constitutyion

Dean Falk
Dean Falk
27 days ago
Reply to  Dean Falk

Constitution

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
26 days ago
Reply to  Dean Falk

The micropenis club has risen to power.

David
David
26 days ago
Reply to  El Trumpedo

And now you have graduated to 4th grade

Anthony
Anthony
27 days ago

The situation in Minessotta is nowhere near what it was in the LA riots.

If he invokes the Insurrection Act he will not un-invoke it until after the midterms. Invoking emergency powers to suspend rights is how totalitarian regimes take and maintain power.

Dean Falk
Dean Falk
26 days ago
Reply to  Anthony

Anthony good point and it is too bad that there is not a real opposition party or parties

David
David
26 days ago
Reply to  Anthony

Were there paid protestors in LA back then?

And were any backed by foreign groups hostile to America?

Your right. This is starting to look like a foreign invasion.

Where the fuck are my South Koreans?

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David
David
26 days ago
Reply to  Anthony

Today we had a church service disrupted by these so called “legal observers”

David
David
26 days ago
Reply to  David

Well you can downvote it and I guess in your liberal mind you can yell blah blah blah because you don’t want to hear it but it happened today

Tom
Tom
26 days ago
Reply to  David

And some got shot by ICE goons too.
So yell blah blah blah you troll

David
David
26 days ago
Reply to  Tom

You want a civil war Tom, you got one

Keep making excuses for the people on the left.

You think you are immune to this?

Tom
Tom
26 days ago
Reply to  David

You did?
You personally?

I didn’t think trolls went to church

David
David
26 days ago
Reply to  Tom

Another one. Let me guess you are a libertarian?

A libertarian is now someone to embarrassed they voted Democrat their entire life

Six000MileYear
Six000MileYear
27 days ago

#6 Trump gets 2 legal chances if he first uses Alien Enemies Act, and then the more broad Insurrection Act upon SCOTUS denying him Alien Enemies Act.

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
26 days ago
Reply to  Six000MileYear

I think he already tried that alien enemies shit and got squashed

Moi
Moi
27 days ago

The question asked by so many people is why Trump? I’m not American, I would definitely vote Republican but I was also 100% against Trump running again for President. My response was GO AWAY, he is such a toxic disruptive force, last time it was just in America, now it’s spread World Wide. I also thought at the time and still do that he seems To be someone who does not take any advice from anyone, that he surrounds himself with Yes men and women and makes really dumb decisions sometimes with nobody there to step in and challenge him.

So why Trump again? Because the Democrat Party has morphed into the “Bat Sh*t” crazy party and Trump is the reaction.

Think of what the Democrats were pushing, DEI, it flooded every corner of government and businesses, no longer hiring the best and the brightest and most capable, the hardest working etc. Instead hiring people purely based on the checksheet. Race, Skin color, Gender, LGBTQXYZ, political views etc. This is the group that said Math is Racist because inner city Black kids were bad at Math, of course the fact that most of these kids had no Father’s, skipped school most of the time so the Democrats answer, let’s not try to fix their Social problems, let’s lower the entrance requirements for them or just flat out ignore their test scores and create a quota. In other words the kids that worked really hard and got great grades were given lower priority for College entrance purely based on the fact they didn’t meet the “checklist” requirements.

Remember cancel culture that permeated the Democrat run government, people were fired for something as simple as “misgendering” an individual, or even Tweets or Social Media posts from decades earlier regardless of how tane they were. This toxic culture was all over the Democrat run Society.

This just scratches the surface of the nonsense the Democrats were pushing and now the result is Trump. There were so many never Trump Republicans his first go around but all of the nonsense pushed by the Democrats turned those never Trumpers into plug your nose and vote for him anyways.

Here is a good example of the Lunacy that flooded Society and Government under the Democrats and it would have got much much worse. I think most Democrats aren’t even aware of the nonsense that was going on because the MSM buried it and never talked about it but the Conservative media was all over it.And niw we have Trump!

https://youtu.be/x6DxC7UxRkE?si=xHmF0tMhnVeHXT6v

John H
John H
27 days ago
Reply to  Moi

You may not be American, but you understand us 100 percent. I couldn’t have put it any better.

Anthony
Anthony
27 days ago
Reply to  Moi

you’re right that the Dem insanity led to Trump, but Trump is much worse than what they did.

And it was burning itself out naturally. All the cancel stuff, the DEI. in the end white people aren’t going to set up a system that discriminate against their own kids and themselves.

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
26 days ago
Reply to  Anthony

Bullshit this is Republican work. It’s insane gaslighting to blame this on Democrats. This started at least as far back as Gingrich, escalated with the tea party (blame the Democrats for daring to elect a black man, go ahead) and Trump is the natural conclusion to the ugly ideas percolating through the Republican party. The modern Republican base built itself on genteel racism and religious fundamentalism and it’s natural they ended up completely encaptured by irrational forces.

Last edited 26 days ago by Phil in CT
David
David
26 days ago
Reply to  Anthony

You actually get it Anthony. And I am not making excuses for the dumb shit the president does.

You can add to your list defund the police.

Saying Free Palestine is basically a college credit now.

Making transgenderism a bigger issue than it really is.

Ever wonder why there is no transgender women in the WNBA? Other than the man Brityney Griner and a whole host of lesbians(Not that there is anything wrong with it) ?
Because being black and being a lesbian carries a lot more politically correct weight than being a 16 yr old white girl who can’t complain when a 17yr old male bashes a volleyball in her face thats why. And a lot of middle of the road white folks that have young girls playing sports are wondering WTF is going on?
When there is a transgender white man dominating and bashing a shot back into the stands and dominating the sport then I won’t think that right now its just a subtle but sometimes dangerous attack on young white girls.

And paid protestors that go around city to city in this country to initiate confrontation and the end result is violence.

More young people voted for Trump or a republican than in a very long time. And that includes young black folks and latinos because they have been priced out of just about everything. A decent paying job, one that has health benefits. Hell they can’t even afford to get out of their parents house anymore. And yes I do blame republicans for not taking the lead on healthcare and for far to long and deserve just as much of that blame.
But when all the young kids hear is everything the republicans do is racist and all white people that don’t vote democrat are racist, well, they just don’t believe that bullshit anymore

Granted on the over the top dumb shit Trump is letting ICE get away with that uptick in the Latino vote is going to be a down tick. Assuming they go out in vote.

Don’t forget the class based ideology and snobbery of current liberalism. Its been about preserving the privileges of the few against the aspirations of the many.
And now they care more about the illegal immigrant that has committed and some even convicted of crimes than they do about the working class American, white, black and latino. Especially the white people because they just assume they are all Trump voters

I can admit that the Democratic party did a lot of good things for this country and republicans stood in the way of getting some of that done sooner.
That does not justify what the Democratic party in this country has now become
The far left has taken over the democratic party and liberals like Phil from CT just keep making excuses for it and everything is Trump and Republicans and basically every white person that didn’t vote democrat fault.
This aint my daddy or anyone here daddy or grand dads democrat party.
Many of them should be required to be registered under the Foreign Agents Registration Act.

PS:The fraud in Minneanapolis is real. Ohio. California. real. real

Last edited 26 days ago by David
Tom
Tom
26 days ago
Reply to  David

You know the people who complain about all this anti-white woke diversity happen to be white. They also happen to be racists on the inside.

I’m not going to go running around screaming names at people and telling them they should go back to the cotton fields. Those aren’t requirements to being a racist.

But to think that lifestyle is going to be taken away because you’re sharing it with somebody else is very short-sighted. You don’t understand the concept of a non-zero sum game. If you did, you could see beyond transactional relationships. You might even understand soft power.

I hope you understand what is going to happen to this country in the coming decade. If you do not, you will be miserable and still white.

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
26 days ago
Reply to  Moi

Perfect a YouTube video, at least it’s credible. If you watch Fox News or whatever the Murdoch equivalent in your country is all the time you would rant like you do here. But in reality there are thousands of small stories of cultural conflict every day in a nation like the US and it’s the media and manipulative politicians that choose to blow this shit out of all proportion and context.

Joe Biden did really wild stuff like forgive student loans. He didn’t run around putting transgender people in sports. He was super milquetoast and that was a flaw, and he got too old, but he was such a tame dude that it’s ridiculous that you’re trying to blame Trumpism on the Democrats.

If you poll Democrats what their priorities are, they’re going to say affordability, health care, democratic ideals, and civil rights. There are always activists for pet causes like neo Nazis, white supremacists, Christian nationalists, gun nuts, anti abortionists, anti vaccine kooks, etc etc etc, but it’s new for a government to mostly be staffed by these extremists. What extremists were in Biden’s cabinet? The highest profile far left politicians like Bernie Sanders, AOC, their radical ideas were… Income equality? Workers rights?

It’s gullible folks like you who fall for this kind of hot button social division shit that makes this whole disaster possible. You are intellectually disposed to gobble up propaganda and blindly take whatever position the media tells you to.

Last edited 26 days ago by Phil in CT
Sentient
Sentient
27 days ago

“On standby” probably means nothing will happen, but if he sends them, I hope they parachute in. More dramatic. Can they parachute when it’s -4F? (-20C)

Frosty
Frosty
26 days ago
Reply to  Sentient

Nipple heater sales to the Pentagon are going wild!

Mike R
Mike R
26 days ago
Reply to  Sentient

It will be just like the start of the movie “Red Dawn”. The Patrick Swayze one, not the crappy remake of course.

J_Schneider
J_Schneider
27 days ago

Why does Trump consider confrontation in Minnesota? What if Trump’s battle against Democrats is to sweep a blue state every two months? Local Republican vigilantes supply info about potential fraud (there is a lot of it, I am sure), Palantier supplies data on fraudsters and sympatizers, ICE goes in to chase illegal immigrants (easy catch, they are in every state), FBI investigates state’s political leadership (aka Democrats) for anything FBI can find and DOJ charges them. Minnesota first, then California, Illinois, New York, Oregon, Washington…. 2026 mid-terms – Trump claiming all Democrads are fraudsters. 2028 – there is no one who can lead Democrats as all high ranking Democrats are charged by DOJ. Political liquidation of Democrats. Now imagine that Minnesota and Tampon Tim find a way how to defend themselves against ICE and FBI by turning Minnesota into a battle ground. Newsome, Fatman Pritzker and all others will try to do it too. I am not supporting Democrats neither Trump. This show is in reality a debacle for the country because things have gone too far for too long and there are no simple solutions availble anymore.

Tenacious D
Tenacious D
27 days ago
Reply to  J_Schneider

Your theory reminds me of the “7 countries in 5 years plan” that General Wesley Clark had talked about hearing/seeing when he was in the Pentagon shortly after 9/11.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo6u9DpASp8&pp=ygUnd2VzbGV5IGNsYXJrIDcgY291bnRyaWVzIHZpZGVvIHJlYWN0aW9u

Mick
Mick
27 days ago
Reply to  J_Schneider

I like your theory, and some (including DJT) might actually think that way. The problem is that the more DOJ prosecutes along these lines, the greater the perception that it is politically motivated (and it would be). Then you get a political blowback. This is the other side of the coin when I warned my parents that attempts to prosecute DJT will backfire and get him re-elected.

Quatloo
Quatloo
26 days ago
Reply to  Mick

Is there anyone who doesn’t already believe the DOJ prosecutions are politically motivated? Are any republicans other than Trump enemies (like John Bolton) being prosecuted?

Jon
Jon
27 days ago
Reply to  J_Schneider

It hasn’t gone too far for too long. Trump simply has to direct ICE to return to the very successful protocols under the Obama administration. The larger number of immigrants requires a larger number of ICE officers, but that is already in place.

A D
A D
27 days ago

Minnesota creates a sanctuary state environment.

ICE comes in to enforce immigration law, while Democrats in Minnesota view this as illegitimate and an invasion, hence they engage in rioting like breaking into federal law enforcement vehicles, throw objects at ICE, etc.

The Democrats created this, and now they are protecting this and controlling the narrative that ICE is solely causing the chaos.

So they believe that even criminals like gang members should be protected within their sanctuary state from immigration law enforcement ?

They want ICE out, but what does that mean for immigration law enforcement within their sanctuary state ? Is it mean there is none ?

And I agree there needs to be due process and perhaps some leniency such as for those who commit very minor crimes like writing one bad check.

Mak
Mak
27 days ago
Reply to  A D

People aren’t being targeted for crimes. They are being targeted for the colour of the skin. This isn’t about crime. This is about targeting people who are white.

” JD Vance said ICE would be going “door to door” in the coming months as agents carry out President Donald Trump’s plans for the largest mass deportation in history.”

cambeiu
cambeiu
27 days ago
Reply to  Mak

“Show us your papers” – That is what freedom sounds like.

Toutatis
Toutatis
27 days ago
Reply to  cambeiu

Freedom does not authorize the violation of the law, for example, being an undocumented immigrant in a country.

rafterman
rafterman
27 days ago
Reply to  cambeiu

Name one country you can enter without being asked that question.

Mick
Mick
27 days ago
Reply to  rafterman

That has nothing to do with the rhetoric and tactics being employed by the goon squads and the cheeto king. It’s possible to protect borders and work on the problem of selective deportation of violent individuals without terrorizing the public.

Dean Falk
Dean Falk
26 days ago
Reply to  Mick

Mick right on go after real criminals not invading neighborhoods and hurting and killing AKA terrorizing noncriminals

Quatloo
Quatloo
26 days ago
Reply to  rafterman

This is not about asking to see papers upon entry into the country, it is about demanding to see papers from people who are already here and living and working in the country. Where does THAT occur? Nazi Germany comes to mind.

Do you carry your passport on you at all times? Do your spouse and children and parents? If not, maybe their car window should be shattered and they should be pulled out of the car over the glass shards and thrown to the ground? If they are innocent, don’t worry, after a day in a jail cell ICE will be able to confirm they are US citizens and leave them out in front of the prison. Once they figure out how to get home, pay the impoundment fee for their car and get it repaired, explain to their employer why they missed work, and go to the doctor to get their wounds healed, everything is back to normal, right?

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
26 days ago
Reply to  rafterman

We’re not taking about entering the nation, we’re talking about going about our daily lives in our neighborhoods. “Papers please” Fuck off Nazis!

Tom
Tom
26 days ago
Reply to  rafterman

How many countries are you asked for your papers after you have already been here for generations?

Tenacious D
Tenacious D
27 days ago
Reply to  Mak

Certainly sounds like it. If not, then what was the reason for even stopping 4 Native Americans who were US citizens and members of the (can’t remember the name) tribe? And then arresting them?

Sentient
Sentient
27 days ago
Reply to  Tenacious D

Lakota

Quatloo
Quatloo
26 days ago
Reply to  Tenacious D

Did they vote for Trump?

Mike2112
Mike2112
27 days ago
Reply to  Mak

Ridiculous. The ppl targeted are the ones committing the fraud.

Avery2
Avery2
26 days ago
Reply to  Mak

Is anyone from Iceland or Japan swimming over wearing new Nike shoes?

Jackula
Jackula
27 days ago
Reply to  A D

Not quite!! You are seeing a reaction to extremely unconstitutional behavior by ICE. If ICE behaved the way it does in red rural areas we’d have a hot civil war started already.

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
26 days ago
Reply to  Jackula

I actually think you have this backwards. Look at Uvalde. The myth of the “don’t tread on me” red states is just that, a myth. Don’t mistake fear for resolve.

Last edited 26 days ago by Phil in CT
El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
26 days ago
Reply to  A D

How do you talk so much with that jackboot in your mouth?

Tom
Tom
26 days ago
Reply to  A D

I wish you would stop watching the news headlines. Sure, everybody wants ice out.

But if you have a longer conversation, you will discover that. What people really want is the violence out. Stop arresting US citizens. Where is the due process that is guaranteed by the Constitution? Stop killing. None of this warrants shooting people in the head.

Had he taken that path, we wouldn’t be here. That’s the point. He needs the insurrection act so that he can shut down the elections.

FDR
FDR
27 days ago

This maneuver by Humpty Trumpy as was Greenland, Venezuela, threatening Columbia, Iran every other day, US tariffs on Europe, kidnapping Maduro, swap lines to Argentina, etc., are to flood the zone and keep the Epstein files off the front page.

This is what wannabe dictators do and how they behave.

Humpty Trumpy’s great fall will be celebrated by the rest of the world except the vassal fascists and US corporate fascists and of course those in on the Trumpy grift.

Neil
Neil
27 days ago
Reply to  FDR

Very much this. Anything to distract the people and avoid them finding out how close and complicit TACO was to Epstein.

Jon
Jon
27 days ago
Reply to  Neil

I think Trump should just admit his relationship and participation with Epstein. MAGA will just say it has always been Biblical and their priests and pastors can start enjoying their proclivities publicly. It would be great for the whole movement. Not so much for the boys and girls, but they’re probably liberals anyway.

cambeiu
cambeiu
27 days ago
Reply to  FDR

ColOmbia.

J_Schneider
J_Schneider
27 days ago

I thought that there was insurrection in Canada or in Greenland. Will Tim Waltz be extracted by a Blackhawk hellicopter and put in the same cell with Maduro? Trump has to mobilize paratroopers because MN National Guard was mobilized by Waltz and probably stands on his side – just a guess from a some watching from distance.

gianni
gianni
27 days ago

In Italy, we have entire neighborhoods in large cities occupied by illegal immigrants or second-generation immigrants who deal drugs or commit other crimes.
Is there the same concentration in certain neighborhoods in America?
Is ICE able to solve this problem?

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cambeiu
cambeiu
27 days ago
Reply to  gianni

Homicide rates in Italy have dropped by 80% since 1990.

Italy’s overall crime rate per 100K population peaked in 1991 at 3.6.
In 2022 it was 0.51.

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gianni
gianni
27 days ago
Reply to  cambeiu

Murders have plummeted because since the 1990s, the mafia has adopted a different approach and infiltrated business activities, choosing the path of political influence.
Italy has not become a paradise, the crime is more hidden.
The inability to integrate immigrants and select the people who are actually needed in factories has led to a concentration of drifters in northern cities, where there is greater prosperity and therefore more money for drug dealing.
It should be noted that, apart from murders, other crimes tend not to be reported if there is no confidence that justice will be done, and this is exactly the case in Italy.

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Jojo
Jojo
26 days ago
Reply to  cambeiu

So what? Murder isn’t a crime that the vast majority of people need to worry about. What common people need to be worried about is robbery, theft and being injured in a crime, leading to time out of work, hospital bills, perhaps permanent disability.

A D
A D
27 days ago
Reply to  gianni

ICE is viewed as illegitimate in sanctuary states (which are Democrat states). These sanctuary states attract illegal immigrants especially those who engage in crime.

Democrats in these sanctuary states created this problem, and now they are protecting it as far as trying to stop ICE. All the while as they create the chaos on the streets, they blame ICE for causing the chaos.

Anthony
Anthony
27 days ago
Reply to  A D

what nonsense. these “sanctuary states” account for most of the U.S. economy and innovation: Cali., NY, Mass, Ill.,

most Dems in these states support reasonable immigration control. What ICE/border control is doing now, showing up masked, disappearing people, stopping random people who look hispanic that are U.S. citizens, harassing tourists because of anti-Trump social media posts, is not reasonable. People who expressed support for Palestinians are being stopped from entering the U.S. Trump is using ICE to, entry into the country as a way to punish people who don’t like him. Families literally do not know after weeks of asking where family members are after they’ve been picked up by ICE. There’s videos, which Mish has included in articles last week, of ICE agents holding kids hostage outside a house to make the parents come out.

So yes, far left Dems let too many people in and have dumb sanctuary laws but at least this is done pursuant to law. States are allowed to do that, stupid as it is. What Trump has done with ICE is getting to 1930s Germany level of insanity.

David
David
26 days ago
Reply to  Anthony

In your first sentence you named 3 of the top 4 states that are consistently LOSING population year after year now.

If its so great why are more people leaving year after year?
And it would be even worse if you start counting all the illegals
Which they do in the census

Your last sentence; ” at least this is done pursuant to law”
What does that mean?

Sentient
Sentient
27 days ago
Reply to  gianni

In America most violent crimes are by African Americans. ICE can’t fix that. Some (fewer) violent crimes are by illegal aliena. ICE can help with that.

Tenacious D
Tenacious D
27 days ago
Reply to  Sentient

How dare you look at FBI statistics and then state uncomfortable truths!!!! Sarc.

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
26 days ago
Reply to  Tenacious D

60% of convictions for violent crimes are of white people. So, no, black people are not responsible for most violent crime in the US- whites are.

David
David
26 days ago
Reply to  Phil in CT

That shows you right there you are now delusional.

Don’t let facts get in the way of your ideology there Phil

Now some of you people are just saying some real bullshit out here

How many people here actually believe that statement?

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Phil in CT
Phil in CT
26 days ago
Reply to  David

60% of convictions for violent crimes are of white people. Look it up, dipshit

David
David
26 days ago
Reply to  Phil in CT

Meanwhile the majority of white people choose to live in a majority white neighborhood. Whether it is an upper income hood or a middle or lower middle class hood
So apparently they do not agree with you

Tenacious D
Tenacious D
26 days ago
Reply to  David

No, he’s not delusional. He’s a legitimate troll. Best approach is to ignore him and click that “Hide” button which hides his bullshit from having to be viewed.

David
David
26 days ago
Reply to  Tenacious D

Thank you. I think I have to

David
David
26 days ago
Reply to  Phil in CT

As of 2019, adjusted for population size, approximately 1 out of every million white Americans killed killed a black person, while 12 out of every million black americans killed a white person.

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
26 days ago
Reply to  David

Again, 60% of convictions for violent crimes are of white people. Once you’re doing word statistical bullshit like your post you can say anything you want. But the claim was black people commit the majority of violent crimes in the US, and that is factually false.

Albert
Albert
26 days ago
Reply to  David

You are committing a classic base rate fallacy. Look it up …

David
David
26 days ago
Reply to  Albert

Just the fact that black people commit more violent crime against white people than white people commit more violent crime against black people tells me all I know need to know
Are you disputing that?

Jon
Jon
26 days ago
Reply to  Sentient

Most violent crimes are committed by people in the lowest 15% socioeconomic status. Regardless of ethnicity.

Jojo
Jojo
26 days ago
Reply to  Jon

This is why I advocate a $200/hr minimum wage for everyone! Raise all boats!! /s

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
26 days ago
Reply to  Sentient

60% of convictions for violent crime in the US are of white people, so your claim is bogus. What you might have said if you were more literate is that blacks commit violent crimes at a disproportionally higher rate in the US, but even if you had somehow managed to express that idea, you would have been failing to control for poverty, concentration of poverty, and fallout from centuries of racial repression. Let’s face facts- you’re not really bright enough to tackle these kinds of issues.

David
David
26 days ago
Reply to  Phil in CT

Why do you have control for poverty? So being poor is an excuse for violent crime now?

As of 2019, adjusted for population size, approximately 1 out of every million white Americans killed killed a black person, while 12 out of every million black americans killed a white person.

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
26 days ago
Reply to  David

Yeah, look up how much violent crime is associated with poverty. “Excuse” that’s your weird idea not mine…. Poor whites commit violent crimes at really high rates, so you tell me is that an excuse? Retarded conservative thinking is what that is. Black and white television sucks, can’t imagine living my whole intellectual life without any degree of context or nuanced thought!

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David
David
26 days ago
Reply to  Phil in CT

You really are living proof of the arrogant white liberal

You know Malcolm X even hated you.

To paraphrase He said at least the southern racist calls me a _igger to my face its those white liberals that conspire against me behind my back that are the ones to fear

You sound like a childless guy that is not happy and needs to take it out on everyone that does not think like him

Anthony
Anthony
27 days ago
Reply to  gianni

not really. there are neighborhoods with higher crime rates, but ICE isn’t going to solve the problem because the perpetrators aren’t illegal immigrants.

and entire neighborhoods aren’t occupied by criminals. here it’s more like a fraction ruin the whole neighborhood.

Frosty
Frosty
27 days ago

Trump is going to help the Iranian protestors and kill the American protestors?

What is wrong with this deranged pervert?

Toutatis
Toutatis
27 days ago
Reply to  Frosty

What immediately stopped the protests in Iran (at least those against the regime) was the complete shutdown of the internet, particularly Starlink, thousands of whose terminals were present in Iran (I wonder who sent them). This was made possible thanks to the help of the Russians and the Chinese. The knowledge acquired in Ukraine, where the army initially communicated using Starlink, proved crucial.
Maybe the next idea of Trump’s team will be to look at the internet. We now know that the “services” in the USA, the NSA for example, can listen to all digital communications.

Frosty
Frosty
26 days ago
Reply to  Toutatis

Yes, They will probably kill me… Steal my assets…

That is what Fascists do…

Jojo
Jojo
26 days ago
Reply to  Toutatis

The government can easily shut down the net, either by ordering the backbone services to turn off the switches or destroying the infrastructure. Both possibilities are already planned for, if considered necessary.

David
David
26 days ago
Reply to  Frosty

I would take the Iranian protestors over the American protestors and legal observors
any day of the week

Jojo
Jojo
27 days ago

FAFO. Best if those in the streets of MN come to their senses and back down before MN winds up looking like Iran. Trump is looking for a reason to declare martial law. Don’t give it to him. This administration is different than any that has ever held power before in the USA.

It’s funny when I think of how many tout the ability of a population, such as in the USA, to fight against government because of the weapons people are allowed to hold. That is ludicrous. The government can easily overpower any ragtag group of citizens, such as are on the streets of MN, or even a citizen army. This isn’t France in 1789!

Tenacious D
Tenacious D
27 days ago
Reply to  Jojo

Right on Jojo.

The government loves creating/promoting insurrectionist thoughts in order to foster perceived crimes in order to arrest people and thereby justify more surveillance and laws for the entire population. Often what they’ll do is the FBI will infiltrate groups of poor blue-collar redneck types who blame their miserable lot in life on other people and who hate other people (blacks, Jews, gays, whatever) with undercover agents. These undercover agents then try to get the dumb rednecks to start saying and doing things that can be considered a crime. Then they arrest everybody and declare that they (FBI) just prevented some kind of major coup/insurrectionist plot against the government. 😱

The most recent example was the supposed plot to kidnap Michigan’s governor Whitmer a few years back, but an even better example was the J6 supposed “insurrection.”. Which was another example, like with Renee Good, where discretion can be the better part of valor. Had the J6’ers who were angry stayed home, they would not have been arrested, jailed, and undergone all that. For Renee, she’d still be alive.

These ordinary people don’t realize they are being used as pawns in a larger political game between heavyweights. They need to consider the saying, “when elephants tussle, blades of grass get trampled.”. We are the blades of grass.

Mike
Mike
27 days ago

#2 So only those living under rocks or wearing blinders get a reality check regarding living in glass houses when disputed in the courts and appealed to SC. Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz mobilized the National Guard to support the Minnesota State Patrol and other local law enforcement during expected weekend protests in downtown Minneapolis.

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Neal
Neal
26 days ago
Reply to  Mike

To little, to late. Plenty of destruction and disruption happened already.

cambeiu
cambeiu
27 days ago

My guess is that #2 is the main reason so far. No one has shot back at ICE yet. But I think it would take only once such incident (false flag or not) to give him enough PR cover to deploy.
My suspicion is that the brains behind Trump (Miller, Vought, Bannon) want to either control or nullify the mid-terms altogether and this is the way to do it.

Please who don’t see Trump’s 2nd presidency as a real attempt at permanent rupture with the previous status quo are missing the big picture.

Toutatis
Toutatis
27 days ago
Reply to  cambeiu

I think we need to remember the “color revolutions” of recent years, which led to regime change. In some cases (for example, Maidan in Ukraine in 2014), gunmen appeared out of nowhere and started shooting at protesters and the police. Therefore, I think the state isn’t waiting for violent unrest. If it wants it, it will create it.

Neil
Neil
27 days ago
Reply to  Toutatis

And trump seems hell bent on creating it.

Anthony
Anthony
27 days ago
Reply to  cambeiu

I agree, there’s no going back for these peope. they know if they lose power they will likely spend the rest of their lives in prison. so they will do everything they can to maintain power.

Augustine
Augustine
26 days ago
Reply to  cambeiu

Maidan in Minnesota, with snipers on high rises shooting protestors and the police alike? Vic Nuland approves of this tactic.

strongGnu
strongGnu
27 days ago

Judge Charles Breyer (CA) and Judge Jia Cobb (DC) said you cannot use the National Guard so what are you going to use? This is not Trump fault, but a forced reaction caused by the overstepping of the courts. What else are you supposed to use? Lawless behavior is rampant, and the behavior is appalling. We have all seen the videos. Do you remember Chaz? – what about all the business and residents that lived there? Did you write about them having their lives damaged? Wherever the national guard has been deployed, the crime rate has gone down significantly – New Orleans and Washington. If I lived in Chicago, Memphis, St Loius, Baltimore or Detroit, I would want them to come. Everyone wants to talk about the people’s rights but what about all the victims. I don’t get why the protestors are trying to protect drug dealers, rapists, murderers and anyone who breaks the law. They will all get their day in the proper venue where they have standing, an immigration court.

Neal
Neal
27 days ago
Reply to  strongGnu

I’m concerned that your country has reached such a state that a governor and mayor are encouraging lawlessness to protect criminals. I hope Trump doesn’t deploy the army and if the morons then burn their own city let them deal with the fallout themselves. No federal aid for anything.
Just send in the FBI, the IRS and plenty of bean counters and charge tampon Tim, the loony mayor and the Somali grifters with any charge that will stick.

Tenacious D
Tenacious D
27 days ago
Reply to  Neal

Hi Neal

Political corruption is pervasive across the entire political leadership at all levels and on both sides of the political aisle. We have all seen news articles about how many politicians come into federal office without significant material wealth and then suddenly have material wealth that cannot be explained by their ~$200k per year Congressional salary. Ilhan Omar is the most recent example that comes to mind.

The level that often gets the most attention is the federal level because people have been conditioned to pay more attention to politics at that level, which they cannot meaningfully influence, rather than the state and local (county, city) levels where they have way more influence.

Anyways, both sides are doing it, and both sides are fine with it. For the people behind the politicians who are really in charge (these are the people who’s names we will never know), the corruption serves as a reason for disposing of the politician when they are no longer serving a useful purpose, or to just keep the politician in line while they are in office.

While this all goes on, the public finances are being destroyed directly through gorging in debt and indirectly through inflation of the currency, which destroys its purchasing power. When this reaches a culmination point, what cannot continue to go on in its present form (e.g., the current form.of government) won’t.

Got gold and silver?

Dean Falk
Dean Falk
26 days ago
Reply to  Neal

Neal what are you wearing an SA brown shirt you sound as if you are pro gestapo pro storm trooper

Jon
Jon
26 days ago
Reply to  strongGnu

There is no rampant lawlessness in any of those cities. The government needs to create fear in the small people so they will welcome being ruled by a stronger, more powerful man.

Dean Falk
Dean Falk
26 days ago
Reply to  Jon

Jon u r kidding Donny trump is a fat weak old and frail he has the IQ of a pumpkin hence the nickname pumpkin head anyways your fearless leader can’t even walk one mile with the wind at his sorry ass

Dean Falk
Dean Falk
26 days ago
Reply to  strongGnu

I hope that u do not believe that nonsensical BS do u

Tony Frank
Tony Frank
27 days ago

Will 2nd Lt. trump be leading the troops into ths foreign state in order to take over full control of its assets and people>

Frosty
Frosty
27 days ago
Reply to  Tony Frank

No, his heel spurs and bloated belly prevent his serving in the armed forces.

Tenacious D
Tenacious D
27 days ago
Reply to  Tony Frank

2nd LT Trump will be flanked by the Fox News Blonde Bimbo Battalion (FNB3), whose chemically whitened teeth will blind some of the enemy and whose surgically enhanced faces will scare the rest to death.

The Orange-face brigade, named for their chosen color of face paint and weapon (i.e., Agent Orange) and often confused for being a Dutch unit, will prevent enemy retreats by dropping chemical weapons behind the enemy formation to prevent them from withdrawing from the battlefield.

A golden fleet of Little Marco ships led by the namesake Secretary of State, based in Florida and captained by Cuban exiles, will pound the trapped enemy formations from the sea.

Prettyboy Pete, aka SECWAR, will visit the troops to prance around in his hair gel and short sleeves that show off his “really cool” tattoos and talk about the “lethality” of the US military and how nobody in the world could have accomplished what they just did.

VPOTUS will work the TV networks to sell the citizens on how this is all totally legal and how things will be better after we raze the entire area to the ground and Jared Kushner and the Trump children complete Reconstruction to replace what was there with luxury hotels and other hospitality-related businesses.

VPOTUS will be joined by Linda Graham, who, mistaking this for an attack on Iran, will tell the audience how “these mullahs had it coming” while continually shifting in his seat in an effort to keep his hard-on at the thought of Iranian regime change from showing on camera.

The war will be paid for with reality TV subscriptions offered exclusively through the Truth Social platform, which will allow subscribers to vote on who should be attacked next and how.

Did I miss anything?

Dean Falk
Dean Falk
26 days ago
Reply to  Tony Frank

Haha Donny was a draft dodging chicken hawk

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