Record Covid Hospitalizations 
Bloomberg reports Hospitalizations due to Covid-19 are rising in 49 states or territories in the U.S., including 24 reaching their highest number since the beginning of the pandemic. Texas leads all states with at least 6,170 patients now hospitalized, but 20 states still have a higher rate per capita.
Daily New Cases 7-Day Average

Daily New Deaths 7-Day Average

Covid Tweets of the Day
https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1326383046640234496
Other than the above and dozens of related stats, Covid vanished right after the election.
Mish


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I don’t understand why the cost of hospitalizations isn’t being covered by the media or discussed by anyone. Someone is going to pay for this. Whether it be the person hospitalized, the government (via medicare due to the age of those getting the sickest ) or the insured. My rates as a small business owner just went up 13% for 2021.
Meanwhile Sweden’s approach has been an abject failure
“So far Sweden’s strategy has proven to be a dramatic failure,” said Lena Einhorn, a Swedish virologist and prominent critic of its strategy. “Four days ago we had eight times higher cases per capita than Finland and three and a half times more than Norway. They were supposed to have it worse off than us in the autumn because we were going to have immunity.”
Even Sweden’s public health agency admits its earlier prediction that the country’s Nordic neighbours such as Finland and Norway would suffer more in the autumn appears wrong. Sweden is currently faring worse than Denmark, Finland and Norway on cases, hospitalisations and deaths relative to the size of their population.
Ha ha ha. You found ONE critic who make a statement that matched what you want to believe, Sad!
Deaths are not an important measure anyway. People die all the time and will continue to do so. Most who died supposedly from Covid-19 were on the brink of doing so anyway because they were sickly and had multiple comorbidities. They could have died from someone looking a them cross-eyed.
I will counter your two sentence post that neglected to provide a link for context checking with this article. Perhaps you will learn something, should you choose to actually read it.
Sweden’s “Dry Tinder” Accounts for Many Covid-19-deaths
Jonas HerbyJonas Herby
– November 9, 2020
Compared to other countries, Sweden had a soft mandatory lockdown. Sweden also experienced a high death toll compared to other Nordic countries. By mid-September 2020 and adjusting for population, Sweden had 5.3 times as many Covid-19-deaths as Denmark, 9.5 times as many as Finland, and 11.8 times as many as Norway.
The high death toll has been attributed to the soft lockdown, but Sweden had a remarkably mild flu season in 2018/19 and 2019/20. Many vulnerable souls who normally would have died of the flu survived to April 2020 and, then, sadly died from Covid-19 instead. This buildup of a stock of vulnerable persons has been called “dry tinder.” The “tinder” metaphor is that more forest fires this year can be explained by fewer fires in previous years. Dry tinder accumulated, awaiting a spark.
A recent article suggests that dry tinder in Sweden is an important factor in explaining the country’s large number of Covid-19 deaths. Sweden was an exceptional case, both compared to other Nordic countries and in a historical perspective. Dry tinder is important for our understanding of the differences in Covid-19 deaths tolls between countries.
It is NOT just the deaths but morbidity and disability affecting those who got infected but left debilitated with many with chronic condition affecting vital organs including heart, lungs, liver and brain. These will be relatively younger people!
More body counts before ‘DENIERS” become serious.
You can get a PCR test here for free most days…..maybe every day….but the rapid tests we paid for today cost $130 cash up front.
And one correction….I was just informed a third employee was given a rapid test today and also tested negative…So I’m out roughly $400 for tests today and more than that in lost productivity. I’m grateful nobody so far is positive….but the cost and the disruption of scheduled appointments…which people wait to get…does matter to our bottom line.
Dodged another bullet. All five employees tested negative so far, no symptoms. Just basically the loss of a day’s production in the hygiene department and $650 in test costs.
I expect more of these scares if infection rates keep rising……but local tests rates are still below 5% positive at the moment.
I attribute our “good luck” to good infection control policies and an honest, quick response from my team members, who reported their COVID exposure incident immediately, as soon as they found out.
Wear your masks. The newer data, based on actual COVID, and not some unrelated disease, shows masks CLEARLY protect both the wearer and others. There is no cogent argument otherwise, and I’d suggest to Mish that the idiot rabble insisting that masks “don’t work”…be banned for spreading false information.
Four of my employees got tested today. Two who were exposed outside work….and two other employees who work in close physical proximity to the ones who were exposed.
The exposed employees got PCR tests and won’t know the results for a couple of days at least..they have to quarantine until then or find a place to give them a rapid test that shows they’re negative.
The other two employees got rapid tests today and were both negative…..but the local test center said the incidence of false negatives is 16%….so they also got PCR tests to confirm they’re negative. Waiting on those too.
None of these people has been symptomatic, and they all were masks faithfully and properly at work.
Another employee got a call from her child’s preschool informing her that several children there tested positive today.
I haven’t gotten tested since May..but if any of these people turn up positive I’ll have to get tested immediately.
Tis the season.
So? It’s 99.9% survivable.
Megan McArdle
@asymmetricinfo
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Cannot emphasize this enough: What New York City did in March will not be possible now. It’s too widely distributed to ship personnel in from everywhere else to help handle the spike.Too many places need extra help, too few places able to donate it.
About 1 out of every 54 people in South Dakota is considered an active COVID case right now
WoW! That means 53 out of 54 AREN”T active Covid-19 case right now!
Gabriel Bosslet–Pulmonary and Critical Care fellowship program director, Assistant Dean of Faculty Development at@iumedschool
@gbosslet
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What people seem to not understand is that COVID therapeutics really don’t do much.
We seem to talk about therapeutics constantly when we should be focusing on preventing community spread.
In Michigan (patients discharged from hospital 4/1 to 7/1)
….Of 1648 patients with COVID-19 admitted to 38 hospitals, 398 (24.2%) died during hospitalization and 1250 (75.8%) survived. Of 1250 patients discharged alive, 975 (78.0%) went home whereas 158 (12.6%) were discharged to a skilled nursing or rehabilitation facility (Table 1). By 60 days after discharge, an additional 84 patients (6.7% of hospital survivors and 10.4% of intensive care unit [ICU]-treated hospital survivors) had died, bringing the overall mortality rate for the cohort to 29.2%, and 63.5% for the 405 patients who received treatment in an ICU. Within 60 days of discharge, 189 patients (15.1% of hospital survivors) were rehospitalized….
…Cardiopulmonary symptoms (such as cough and dyspnea) were reported by 159 patients, including 92 with new or worsening symptoms and 65 with persistent loss of taste or smell. Fifty-eight patients reported new or worsening difficulty completing activities of daily living. Among 195 patients who were employed before hospitalization, 117 had returned to work whereas 78 could not because of ongoing health issues or job loss. Of the 117 patients who returned to work, 30 reported reduced hours or modified duties due to health reasons.
Nearly half of all patients (238 of 488) reported being emotionally affected by their health, and 28 sought care for mental health after discharge. Moreover, 179 patients reported at least a mild financial impact from their hospitalization, with 47 reporting use of most or all of their savings and 35 rationing food, heat, housing, or medications due to cost….
Speaking of hospitals, they aren’t on board with Biden interest in lowering the Medicare age, which would be a big help to many who get Covid-19. They are afraid of losing profits.
Biden Wants To Lower Medicare Eligibility Age To 60, But Hospitals Push Back
November 11, 20209:00 AM ET
Of his many plans to expand insurance coverage, President-elect Joe Biden’s simplest strategy is lowering the eligibility age for Medicare from 65 to 60.
But the plan is sure to face long odds, even if the Democrats can snag control of the Senate in January by winning two runoff elections in Georgia.
Republicans, who fought the creation of Medicare in the 1960s and typically oppose expanding government entitlement programs, are not the biggest obstacle. Instead, the nation’s hospitals — a powerful political force — are poised to derail any effort. Hospitals fear adding millions of people to Medicare will cost them billions of dollars in revenue.
Check your facts: how many Republicans voted for and against Medicare? How many Democrats voted for and against Medicare? Then get back to us with the numbers.
Trump is busy securing his dictatorship with the help of Republicans. They are too busy to worry about some crummy pandemic. Welcome to the Fourth Reich.
I hope everybody here took advantage of the recent 100% off sale at the Chicago Macy’s on State Street the other day. 100% compliance with the mayor’s and governor’s mask rule, too.
I’m a medical professional in Florida and it seems there is a different strain with our patients.
Do patients survive better with this strain or not? The study I posted said it seems to be less virulent.
There will be no economic normalcy until covid is dealt with correctly. Trump administration wasted 2020 and now the country suffers for it. The economy will get shut down one way or another. I fully expect some places to have people dying at home soon. The colder the weather gets the more easily covid spreads.
yeah yeah yeah ….may I remind you for the (Tr)umpteenth time that we didn t have Trump in Europe and look how we re doing despite all STUPID measures…..Your unfounded anti Trump narrative makes me sick …..and angry!
I would guess that you have dummies there too–after all it is a country where a little boy peeing is the best known cultural artifact.
like most Americans; cultural luggage : 0 !
‘Manneke Pis’ is not a cultural artifact , a folkloristic one rather related to a funny legend ….Culture he says !
Comorbidity and COVIS-19.
…..and judging by all ignorant posts on Mishtalk in recent days, we definitely are on a pivotal path of total intellectual, or RATIONAL rather, collapse…
Then why are you still here if it is so painful for you?
I live in South Florida. At the time of July, I didn’t know anyone who had the virus. Now in November, I know plenty of people who have had it. I only know 1 person who has died from it and he was very overweight and in uncertain health. Of the rest, one was hospitalized (fairly overweight) and everyone else would barely have known they had it other than they tested positive (in some cases the wife or husband never caught it despite sleeping in the same bed).
In my social circle there is zero interest in a lockdown (much of my circle consists of beer league hockey teams and co-workers). Masks are worn here in stores and that’s about the extent of it.
The USA has roughly an extra 200K deaths this year (so far) over an average year. Those 200K are almost certainly the Covid deaths. While not nice (esp for those who died), it’s insignificant next to the total population (340 million). What will be really interesting is how many extra deaths there are next year or whether the deaths are less than expected because the virus many have pulled demand forward from the elderly/sick.
I don’t think most people support a lockdown. Right now the best solution seems to be for everyone to wear a mask, which may slightly reduce the number of cases, but seems to dramatically reduce the number of hospitalizations and deaths.
The big problem is the hospitals fill up and the Covid death rate skyrockets. Most of the 4% that require hospitalization die as well as the stroke, heart attack, appendicitis, car accident victims, etc. That is why its so critical to slow the spread.
Pfizer’s CEO Dumps 62% Of His Stock On COVID Vaccine Announcement. Strong proof that 90% effective is a lie. https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/pfizers-ceo-dumps-60-his-stock-covid-vaccine-announcement
Saw that….hehehe. Inspires confidence….NOT!
Pump and Dump
Well, not that it’s a lie, which would send him to jail, but rather that the market over-reacted to the significance of it. They can only produce a finite amount of the vaccine. The vaccine has to be stored and transported at -70C, and there is no system in place for doing that. By the time there is, the pandemic may be over. And, of course, it could be a one-time event. It’s possible we may all have to have a covid booster shot every year, but unlikley.
As much as I would like to believe this, it’s probably not true. As an officer of the company, there are only limited times each quarter that you can sell stock or stock options. Most of each quarter, officers of the company are “blacked out” from selling or buying. The timing is probably a coincidence. Don’t know about the 62%. If true, it seems high for normal officer selling.
The number won’t really be 90% in the end. This is only for 7 days of protection. I would suspect it drops to something like 60% for 6 weeks to 3 months of protection and then declines thereafter. What if Covid figures out a way to adapt to this mRNA vaccine which is not really a traditional vaccine but more like a therapeutic vaccine ?
As I understand it, the study was based on the first 94 people who contracted Covid from the 44,000 people in the study. Ninety percent of those that had covid who had been vaccinated had milder symptoms than those who didn’t. It’s impossible to tell whether a vaccine protects from infection without doing a challenge study, which is unethical.
Challenge study not unethical in the UK, apparently. Probably also being done in Chinese prisons.
20 October 2020
Dozens to be deliberately infected with coronavirus in UK ‘human challenge’ trials
I think that it”s a sign that Pfizer although being the first major to develop a vaccine is not the only one. Others are coming in rapid sequence. maybe some of the others are better when it comes to storing and distribution which is the weak point of Pfizers’ vaccine. Competition is coming and their stock could be at its high.
Got his skin out of the game
Why wouldn t the guy take some profit and some more ….he waited to announce ‘the miracle concoction’ till Trump got officially defeated….ALL according to plan ….Give him a bonus !
I like to see the actual test data in detail. Many questions:
I was under the impression watching the news that Texas was seeing a massive spike, but clearly in November, they aren’t even as close to their peak a few months before.
Texas has a big problem, but it’s limited to a few hotspots in West Texas. El Paso is in horrible shape and Lubbock and Amarillo have spikes.
Houston and Dallas are still doing fine at the moment, and here in the Travis and Williamson county areas around Austin we’re almost still flat…just the slightest of increases so far….but it’s not cold weather either.
COVID scare in my office today. Canceling part of the schedule and sending two employees to be tested because they just found out they were exposed outside of work. If they test positive, we all have to get tested and quarantine. Hopefully we get immediate results..but no guarantee of that. It really sucks.
We think we have our first case in the office. Should know later.
Don’t worry. Trump says we have the best testing in the world. But really, you aren’t doing your part. If we didn’t test so much, we wouldn’t have as many cases!
Yesterday was a 12.2% positivity rate, like in the bad old days at the end of April. The majority of states aren’t moving now to control it, and even if\when they do turning around a pandemic is like turning around an oil tanker. The restrictions in Europe are just starting to show results.
This is why I don’t see the vaccine as being huge for the US. We are going to have a super spike in Nov-Feb just like 1919 unless we do something soon. Some states may be ok but the majority, not so much. Once we get to spring the tinder will have been burnt and the seasonality will be on the wane. For other countries that have controlled the virus it will be huge though.
Can’t edit. Here is a good quote from the Post
“I’m not sure it disappoints me as much as it scares the hell out of me,” said Michael T. Osterholm, director of the University of Minnesota’s Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy. “This is like one huge coronavirus forest fire, and I don’t think it’s going to spare much human wood out there unless we change our behavior.”
More likely, he said, the grim present will grow only darker as the fall wears on. Despite positive news this week, no vaccine will arrive in time to quickly alter the current trajectory. In many places, bars, gyms and restaurants remain open. Weddings and funerals continue. People fighting pandemic fatigue or who are dismissive of the risks are gathering with friends and family, and doing so more often indoors as cold weather arrives.
Osterholm is a regular scaremonger on TV over the past 4 months or so.
He could be right.
But most likely not.
For many reality on the ground is hard to swallow!
Looks like we will get to see the cost to attain herd immunity in a community. Thanks for performing the experiment, I guess, Trump supporters.