Another Anti-Vaxxer Nearly Got Religion, Unfortunately He Died First

Defender of the People

Mask Burning Party 

On Facebook, Apley endorsed a Mask Burning Party.

Apley, a leader of the Texas Republican Party hopped on Facebook in May to post about a “mask burning” party 900 miles away in Cincinnati.

The 45-year-old Dickinson City Council member republished a Facebook post implying that vaccines don’t work.

Two days later, Apley was admitted to a Galveston hospital with “pneumonia-like symptoms” and tested positive for coronavirus, according to an online fundraising campaign. He was sedated and put on a ventilator.

He Died With a Fundraising Success

A GoFundMe page for Apley raised $28,000 from over 300 donors.

He was serving his first term on the Texas GOP’s State Republican Executive Committee.

The GoFundMe effort failed to mention why he died.

Sorry, Too Late 

A doctor in Alabama, which has one of the lowest vaccination rates in the country, last month wrote a detailed Facebook post about how a lot of “young healthy people” were being admitted to the hospital “with very serious” covid infections.

One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine,” Brytney Cobia wrote. “I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.”

Will This Persuade Anyone?

Of course not. At least not members of the diehard anti-vaxxer flat-earth society.

However, it might help family members realize that there is help for the dead from GoFundMe.

Unfortunately, and as I have stated before, people need their own near death experience before they learn a damn thing.

Also unfortunately, some don’t make it.

Nurses Concerned About Unvaccinated COVID-19 Patients

Also consider West Virginia Nurses Concerned About Unvaccinated COVID-19 Patients.

“The handful of patients who we have had recently, all of them are young, otherwise healthy lived and independent lifestyles,” ICU nurse Taylor Krisher said about unvaccinated patients. “It’s hard for me because I see it. I work with patients who are so sick I can’t leave the room for 12 hours.” 

Krisher said most of the hospital’s COVID-19 patients are younger people who did not want to get vaccinated against the deadly virus. After battling for their life, a number of patients have told Krisher and her co-workers that they regret not getting a shot.

“The kids and other relatives were saying goodbye to him,” Krisher recalled one unvaccinated COVID-19 patient she was caring for on FaceTime before he died. “I was having to push medicine just to keep him alive long enough that he was able to say goodbye.”

“He knew he was going to die, it was just when,” ICU nurse Chelsea Ebbert said choking up while thinking about another unvaccinated patient. 

Ebbert said every patient she has cared for that was not vaccinated regretted their decision, and a number of patient’s family members have also decided to go get vaccinated after seeing their loved one’s condition. Many of these are people in their 30s or younger who were not significantly at risk from previous COVID-19 variants, but the delta variant targets.

Word About Hypotheses

“The handful of patients who we have had recently, all of them are young, otherwise healthy lived and independent lifestyles,” ICU nurse Taylor Krisher said about unvaccinated patients. 

The odds are overwhelming Apley would be alive IF he got vaccinated.

Instead he pounded his chest in support of “freedom”.

Apley is now free. He is free to preach his message from his grave.

Somehow this does not seem like a “Give me Liberty or Give Me Death” kind of moment, but if I hear from Apley, I will post his reply.

Although it’s hard to feel any empathy for Apley, I would rather he have lived so that he could spread a better second opinion. This was an easily preventable tragedy.

Mish

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twistertim
twistertim
4 years ago
The vaccines are not the solution to get back to normalcy. 
Look
at all the highly vaccinated countries ,which are at levels of
“compliance”  we are told required for “herd” immunity (ignoring natural
immunity),and the DELTA
variant is running
rampant…..UK, Israel ,Malta, Gibraltar , to name a few.    Getting the
USA to that level of compliance is NOT going to end the pandemic.  The
CDC
has already admitted that the vaccines DO NOT Prevent
Infection and TRANSMISSION of the DELTA variant,so achieving “herd”
compliance will do NOTHING to end
the pandemic.   
Vaccination is a personal choice and should NOT be forced or coerced on
to anyone.   If you feel it will help you, go for it !!  Don’t condemn
those who
want to wait and see LONG TERM safety data ,
meaning years, not just a few months,and those who have natural immunity
from prior infection.  Yes, some Unvaxxed
will die from
Covid,and Yes,some Vaxxed will also die from Covid or the Vaccine.  This
makes the vaccine a truly personal choice which should be respected
either way. It is up the individual to make an INFORMED decision,and not
feel pressure from certain bloggers, friends, family, employers, and
governments !!
CristiC
CristiC
4 years ago
Mish, your posts have equal value as the ones from http://thecovidblog.com/ which points to vaxxers stupid sheeps that are illiterates and advocates for vaccination only to fall dead from the vaccine. Go and read it, Mish. This is the quality of your posts like this. You just started, you have a long way to catch the number of deaths caused to active online vaxxers.
twistertim
twistertim
4 years ago
Reply to  CristiC
The vaccines are not the solution to get back to normalcy. 
Look at all the highly vaccinated countries ,which are at levels of “compliance”  we are told required for “herd” immunity (ignoring natural immunity),and the DELTA
variant is running rampant…..UK, Israel ,Malta, Gibraltar , to name a few.    Getting the USA to that level of compliance is NOT going to end the pandemic.  The CDC
has already admitted that the vaccines DO NOT Prevent Infection and TRANSMISSION of the DELTA variant,so achieving “herd” compliance will do NOTHING to end
the pandemic.    Vaccination is a personal choice and should NOT be forced or coerced on to anyone.   If you feel it will help you, go for it !!  Don’t condemn those who
want to wait and see LONG TERM safety data , meaning years, not just a few months,and those who have natural immunity from prior infection.  Yes, some Unvaxxed
will die from Covid,and Yes,some Vaxxed will also die from Covid or the Vaccine.  This makes the vaccine a truly personal choice which should be respected either way. It is up the individual to make an INFORMED decision,and not feel pressure from certain bloggers, friends, family, employers, and governments !!
 
CristiC
CristiC
4 years ago
Reply to  twistertim
I do not believe Mish is still dreaming about herd immunity. He is too smart for that. Mish is only saying that at individual level, there are fewer chances to die of Covid for vaccinated. This, by the way, is somewhat true. However, Mish et al, what is missing is an honest discussion about side effects and what are the conditions why raise the risk of the therapies sold as “vaccines”. Because such discussion DOES NOT EXIST (and only fools say there are no side effects or are only minor) and is actively discouraged and banned on social media, I SHALL NOT VACCINATE. Instead, I protect myself through hygiene as in any flu endemic.
Here. … one of the most powerful and knowledgeable voice in Covid vacines says: STOP DREAMING OF herd immunity. Vaccines DO NOT DO THAT. Only passing through the disease. However, I’m not going to have it: neither the vaccine, nor the disease.
Dean2020
Dean2020
4 years ago
This is a great conversation regarding Ivermectin from the front lines: https://www.bitchute.com/video/AHGqHsMe1r6g/
prumbly
prumbly
4 years ago
A pity that Ivermectin costs $2 a dose and not $1000. If it was expensive they would use it to save everyone.
Mike 2112
Mike 2112
4 years ago
Too bad his doctors didnt try treating him with Ivermectin
goldguy
goldguy
4 years ago
CristiC
CristiC
4 years ago
Reply to  goldguy
Thank you. Quote from that study: “our data suggest that the balance between neutralizing and facilitating antibodies in vaccinated individuals is in favor of neutralization for the original Wuhan/D614G strain. However, in the case of the Delta variant, neutralizing antibodies have a decreased affinity for the spike protein, whereas facilitating antibodies display a strikingly increased affinity. Thus, ADE may be a concern for people receiving vaccines based on the original Wuhan strain spike sequence (either mRNA or viral vectors).”
In plain English: because Delta comes with some mutations in the spike protein, the antibodies does not fit perfectly with it and are rather glued to the protein but in the wrong place and instead enhances the capability of the virus to enter a healthy cell. The study says this is a serious safety issue with vaccines if it happens.
oee
oee
4 years ago
The Late – Mr. Appley is a Stalinist. He refused to pay his fair share i e  get vaccinated. Now, he put a burden on the system unfairly and now his relatives want us to his bills. F*ck him and his relatives. 
Jimdog
Jimdog
4 years ago
Vaccine Expert Vanden Bossche Calls For “Immediate Halt” To mass Vaccinations, Says They Encourage “Escape Mutant” Variants.  The truth comes out from one of the most experienced and reputable vaccine experts.  We never should have taken the VAX!  It’s now causing more harm than good.  Take that Mish and chew on it.  
Tengen
Tengen
4 years ago
Always weird to see how emotional people get over Covid one way or another. People have lost sight of the fact that we’d still be rushing headlong into economic oblivion even if Covid had never existed. I guess it gives people something to get fired up about since they know deep down that they cannot effect meaningful change over the Fed or the MIC.
amigator
amigator
4 years ago
Live Free or Die I agree 100%.
I feel sorry for any individual and their family if they die, be it from a car accident,  a disease, a crime, a suicide, even a war or whatever. 
Are we going to apply what the individuals personal thoughts are to determine if we can show some compassion in their death?
I wonder how many unvaccinated young are infected and have recovered maybe didn’t even know they were sick. Maybe someone has those stats, I would guess 99 out of 100 would be close. So lets inoculate everyone no matter how ineffective it will be for them because why?
If you have any underlying conditions yes better vaccinate ASAP maybe they should be publishing those conditions. I have never seen a list form the CDC. But I have not read every document either. 
The fed’s have lost all creditability not so much for what they tell us, its really the information they don’t tell us. Or they use their favorite line “Can’t say because of National Security”. 
aaa21usa
aaa21usa
4 years ago
Did he get the appropriate treatment protocol?  Probably not because the medical establishment is purposely suppressing very effective protocols that include Ivermectin.  Adopting those protocols globally in combination with vaccination is the solution, not fear mongering.
aaa21usa
aaa21usa
4 years ago
Reply to  aaa21usa
Science and medical trials support the efficacy of Ivermectin as treatment for COVID-19.  It is much superior to widely used Remdesivir which costs $4K per treatment.
The problem is that the CDC, FDA, and WHO have been captured by Big Pharma, and they have no intention of allowing cheap repurposed meds to be used to fight COVID19 – especially if they work!!
Here is a concise summary of all Ivermectin trials with COVID19.  It is very effective, though not a magic bullet, but then again neither is vaccination. Which is why we need BOTH!
Shrp-Blond
Shrp-Blond
4 years ago
Reply to  aaa21usa
In a very well done study supervised by McMaster University in Hamilton, Canada, and conducted in Brazil, they determined ivermectin had “no effect whatsoever.”  I was hopeful that ivermectin would work after some of the early (but flawed) studies, as we need therapeutics in addition to the vaccine, but the science is in, and the drug does not work.  https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-08-11/ivermectin-no-effect-covid
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
Reply to  Shrp-Blond
Ivermectin does work. Way too many studies and experiences by doctors and patients demonstrate that it does.
It kills the virus in vitro in 24 hours.
Call_Me
Call_Me
4 years ago
Reply to  Shrp-Blond
From the article:
“The study’s results on Ivermectin haven’t been formally published or peer-reviewed.”
“Mills said that his team’s Ivermectin trial was altered after advocacy
groups complained that it was too modest to achieve the results they
expected. The trial originally tested the results from a single
Ivermectin dose in January this year, but was later changed to involve
one daily dose for three days of 400 micrograms of the drug for every
kilogram (about 2.2 pounds) of the patients’ weight, up to 90 kilograms.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
What would be your reaction if there happened to be a pro-Ivermectin study that was similarly unpublished and not peer-reviewed?  Seems premature to laud this study.  Given that the initial design was a single dose (not stated what dosage was investigated or what condition the test subjects were in), it is reasonable to suspect that it was designed to find no effect.  Perhaps this can be determined if/when it is published.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
If you want to provoke tears of rage why not go with that? The covid anti-vaxer story is a horse that has already died and beating it will not make it get up and run.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
What about the soldiers who died in Afghanistan for nothing? Might as well do a story about them here as long as you want to put up stories about some guy who didn’t take the vaccine and died.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
I tend to agree, but to say they died for nothing misses what might’ve happened if the USA was not in Afghanistan. We are, however, seeing it happen right now as the Taliban takes over. Sadly for the democrats and fence-sitters, Biden, the self-acclaimed foreign policy expert, is a nincompoop–perhaps from the latin, non compos mentis, meaning ‘mentally incompetent.’
Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Those soldiers didn’t die for nothing.  They died defending American business interests, just like every other American soldier in American history.  Some soldiers are oblivious to that fact, but that does not change the fact.
War Is A Racket by Smedley Butler
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
4 years ago
I’ll say the same thing about him as all the other Covid-dead anti-vaxxers. Like a giant wave surfer, they went out on their own terms. They might be dead, but they didn’t lose to the evil government kill shot! Thoughts and Prayers, Rep Apley. Relish your victory over that evil needle!!!
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
“The odds are overwhelming Apley would be alive IF he got vaccinated.”
The odds are overwhelming that Apley would be alive, if only his doctor was allowed to prescribe Ivermectin, fluvoximine, or one of the other treatments that have come to light, apparently, something like around 10, now.
The choice shouldn’t be Covaxxines or no outpatient treatment by a doctor. It is truly unconscionable that patients are not being treated for the virus at the earliest opportunity. People are dying because of it.
That is the real shame here, and no one with any power to do something about it will do so. The tally so far, over 600,000 American deaths, largely for lack of outpatient treatment.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
I agree that a lack of effort to provide good outpatient treatment in the early sages of COVID infections has been a real issue, and I do blame Fauci and the bureaucrats in white coats who don’t even practice clinical medicine. It is a travesty.
But that’s not a reason not to vaccinate. 
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
The accumulation of VAERS reports of serious adverse reactions is reason for me not to Covaxxinate.
Steve Kirsch said his carpet cleaner and his wife both had an adverse reaction, the cleaner telling him he had a heart attack 2 minutes after getting the shot. Ivermectin has none of the adverse reactions people are experiencing from the covaxxines.
aaa21usa
aaa21usa
4 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
If recently diagnosed COVID-19 patients could get the early treatment protocol below hospitalizations and deaths would plummet.   
Everyone diagnosed with COVID-19 (vaccinated or not) should get Ivermectin together with everything mentioned here.
Cocoa
Cocoa
4 years ago
This is a Coronavirus. Has the Pfizer or CDC solved the common cold or flu? Flus, colds and SARS/COVID are the same vehicle of transmission Have they ever solved a virus that jumps from animals to humans to animals? NO. The government thinks this is smallpox, which can be eradicated. Smallpox affects only people.
The amount of mutations in the NY sewer system generated by RATS is staggering. Pfizer just makes money(34 billion) playing catch up.https://www.thecity.nyc/2021/7/29/22600656/covid-mutations-in-new-york-city-sewage-possible-dog-rat
Best bet, get your overall immunity up and running because the vaccine is just BS whack-a-mole for all the variants to come
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Cocoa
Animal reservoirs changes everything with covid.  
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
Here’s an idea that changes the risk dynamic: If the government or an employer requires vaccination, then the government/employer becomes responsible for any adverse outcome to the vaccine recipient. However, if a person is not vaccinated, the responsibility for any adverse outcome is his/hers/other-unspecified-gender  alone.
The fat dude, Apley, probably ran up a huge medical bill before he died.  It was his decision not to get vaccinated. Why am I ‘paying’ for it? Much the same reasoning, why am I ‘paying’ for the treatment of illegals crossing the border with Covid?  I ask this because it seems to me, the more I pay, the more they come, and frankly, I’m tired of seeing my money pissed away.
strataland
strataland
4 years ago
Global economics huh?
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
Reply to  strataland
Covid is a global economic issue. China just shut down part of a shipping port due to some new cases, which could affect the economy if port shutdowns spread.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
Sorry; I don’t trust China. Shutting down an entire port is a gross over-reaction, with questionable efficacy, especially when China did nothing about international air travel. So, I wonder, why shut it down? To be seen to be doing the right thing’ is as likely as any righteous motive. Equally likely, China is trying to affect the global economy–negatively, by making parts and products unavailable.
And if you think China, or the US for that matter, is incapable of such behavior, I cannot help you.
BTW, this comment  is not pro Vax or Antivax. China is a real threat!
Mish
Mish
4 years ago
Reply to  strataland
Oh yeah 600,000 dying and closures and hospitals filling up is not at all about economics. And by the way, did you read any of many of my recent inflation reports or are you simply an anti-vaxxer fool? 
Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple
4 years ago
Reply to  strataland
Still waiting for proof that Warren is provoking support for Newsom’s recall, Strataland.
Dean_70
Dean_70
4 years ago
Meanwhile, COVID cases are pouring in from the boarder: https://www.yahoo.com/news/dhs-dropped-40-000-covid-164025640.html
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  Dean_70
40% test positive…..but they all go into quarantine…..100% of them. Not sure the government tests them as soon as they should…it should happen at the border imho…and I think that isn’t what happens, at least not on some of them.
Bu the idea that illegals are causing our COVID problems doesn’t hold water, sorry. If it did it would show up in the data, and it doesn’t.
Dean_70
Dean_70
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
I was not inferring that illegals are causing our COVID problems. That would be crazy. I was simply pointing out that it is a serious problem. 
Also, people that pour over the boarder do not intend on being caught. So thinking that these people are all being tested at the boarder is even crazier. They will disperse throughout the US under the radar, if possible. 
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
Reply to  Dean_70
A great many intend on being caught–in fact, they turn themselves in asap especially if they have child with them–prioritytreatment. Hard to know how many illegals are  being returned since they are being moved around, often by non-government parties.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
You are wrong. Border agents are sending them on because they do not have the facilities to treat them. Testing is done only when a person presents symptoms.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
It’s more complicated than that. Most of the asylum seekers are tested in Mexico. The families with kids are tested in Brownsville. I they’re positive they are then given a motel room where they are supposed to quarantine….but they have their papers for travel, and they aren’t locked up…..so maybe some of them do leave.
That shouldn’t be happening. I’m in agreement on that.
They wouldn’t know so many are testing positive in the first place if they weren’t testing. 
Anybody who goes into a lock-up facility gets tested regularly.
Illegals who sneak in…..well, they sneak in. Nothing anybody can do about that.
Johnson1
Johnson1
4 years ago
Reply to  Dean_70
Well….the good and the bad I see from this.
40k is a lot of people to be dumping off anywhere for any reason …..but it appears that they do not need hospitalization otherwise there would be a hospital crisis in the drop off cities. 
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  Johnson1
That’s why I said it would show up in the data. But apparently it is POSSIBLE for a determined COVID positive asylum seeker to travel, if they want to bad enough. And since they can go anywhere without supervision, that could be a problem.
In reality I doubt it’s a huge problem, but quarantine certainly shouldn’t be avoidable at all.
Webej
Webej
4 years ago
What? No heart-breaking anecdotes about young students & athletes who were hospitalized after their second dose, spent 3 weeks fighting for their life without any comprehension by doctors, only to finally be struck and die in the prime of the life!
I had read the Brytney Cobia before, and seriously doubt the sourcing. Would like to see numbers to go with this exceptional island of young patients who had their hands held as they died, asking for vaccines.
How about some anecdotes about young parents losing their infant to influenza?
Final question, did any of them bother to use the protocols published by the LFCCC, a team concentrating expertise & treatment advice by some of the most published doctors in the country?
Blurtman
Blurtman
4 years ago
Morbidly obese.
Dean_70
Dean_70
4 years ago
Reply to  Blurtman
Obesity has been proven to be a risk since the COVID spike proteins bind to red blood cells and form clumping. These clumps can cause clotting in older and obese individuals due to high cholesterol buildup throughout the vascular system.  Most of the ‘healthy’ young samples suffering from COVID are WAY overweight and at high risk for serious complications. 
Yes, mRNA vaccines turn your body into a spike protein factory that produces the same spike proteins that are harmful in COVID patients. 
Truly healthy people rarely have complications from COVID. My question is: Why cherry pick examples like this post and not offer counter examples of the over 13k that have died due to the vaccine injections?
The swine flu vaccine was recalled in the 1970’s due to over 550 deaths but we’re ok with over 13k deaths at the hands of COVID vaccines? And what about long-term effect of these spike proteins? 
Corvinus
Corvinus
4 years ago
Reply to  Dean_70
“Why cherry pick examples like this post and not offer counter examples of the over 13k that have died due to the vaccine injections?”
That’s why I’m at the point of questioning the integrity of the host on this issue.
Mish
Mish
4 years ago
Reply to  Corvinus
If you think 13K people died from the shot you area believer in asinine propaganda. 
Dean_70
Dean_70
4 years ago
Reply to  Mish
Looks like the numbers reported were revised down. So the CDC is reporting asinine propaganda then revising the number down to ‘only’ 6.2k?
ATLANTA (Precision Vaccinations)

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) confirmed an increased number of deaths reported after a COVID-19 vaccination. Between December 14, 2020, through July 19, 2021, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) received 12,313 reports of death among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.

UPDATE: As of 2:30 PM CT on July 21, 2021, the CDC’s website modified the number of VAERS reports related to COVID-19 vaccination deaths from 12,313 to 6,079, through July 13, 2021. The CDC’s webpage’s Last Update date remains July 19, 2021.

UPDATE #2: As of 6:30 PM CT on July 21, 2021, the CDC’s website stated through July 19, 2021, VAERS had received 6,207 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. The CDC’s webpage’s Last Update date reflects July 21, 2021.

tbergerson
tbergerson
4 years ago
Reply to  Mish
The VAERS DB used to have a number in the 12k range of people who have died AFTER (not because of, research on each case needed to determine causes) receiving one or both doses of vaccine (though many were within 72 hours).  It has since been moved down to the 5k-6k range.  Why I dont know.  These numbers are higher than for pretty much every vaccine that has ever been introduced and more than what the FDA used to stop vaccine usage for.
The other wrinkle is that VAERS has historically represented only a tiny fraction of adverse events.  Only a small number get reported.  I suspect reporting is higher for the COVID vaccines, but adverse events, including death, still reported at much less than the actual numbers.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  tbergerson
I predict that 100% of people who got the shot will die eventually of something. So will the unvaccinated. Guaranteed.
But VAERS is an unconfirmed, uncurated  number that is self reported by anybody who thinks they or their loved one had an adverse event, no matter how minor…and it isn’t even checked to see if it happened, much less that it’s correct.
A lot of very elderly people early in COVID who had multiple health problems were vaccinated, It’s perfectly reasonable that a fair number of them subsequently died….but of WHAT?  WTF knows?
Drawing ANY meaningful conclusions at ALL from VAERS is impossible.
Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple
4 years ago
Reply to  Corvinus
Hehehehe
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
4 years ago
Reply to  Dean_70
What proof or even evidence do you have of your claimed death toll from taking the vaccine? Is that just from OpenVAERS website? The one run by some wacky old bored white lady in the SF Bay Area?
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
I am just not moved by these anecdotal unCovaxxed, stories.
A doctor that posted on Denninger said not one patient of his was admitted into the hospital in the first three months after he started prescribing Ivermectin. A fully vaccinated LAPD cop was in Cedars-Sini last week, fighting for his life. The Covax didn’t help him. They gave him Remdesivir, which the WHO recommends against treating patients with. “WHO has issued a conditional recommendation against the use of remdesivir in hospitalized patients, regardless of disease severity, as there is currently no evidence that remdesivir improves survival and other outcomes in these patients.” Oddly, the FDA final report approved Remdesivir. But it costs $3,000 a pop and benefits Big Pharma.
The real problem is that doctors generally are not allowed to treat patients, unless they are in the hospital.
That is why a huge number of the 600,000 who died, did so. They had to be sick as a dog, to get any treatment.
That is unconscionable.
There are so many positive studies on Ivermectin, now. That is because Ivermectin kills the C-19 virus in vitro in 24 hours. That is why the doctor mentioned above, had no patients get sick enough to be in the hospital for the first three months he prescribed it. That is why Dr. Kory is so passionate about making Ivermectin available to the masses.
Dr. Fauci: “We’re looking at an orally administered maybe 7 to 10 days, given to person who is early on in the course of their infection, before you get to the cascade of events that lead to the aberrant  activation inflammatory response that kills people.”
I presume Fauci is talking about the new Merck drug, currently in testing. HCQ and Ivermectin have existed all during this pandemic, but were blocked from use by the FDA. They could have been used on an outpatient basis to save not all, but a lot of lives, as both have anti-viral properties. Scott Apley’s life could have been saved, even without being Covaxxed.
Cocoa
Cocoa
4 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
I keep hearing about these anecdotal stories but the data still doesn’t support a serious uptick in youth deaths or severe reactions to Covid-19. It’s all hyped up nonsense from a like the same story over and over again.
And the main data point, that people who suffer from Covid have on average, 2 co-morbidities that take them down. Obesity, Diabetes, Heart Disease.
Where’s the call to action for folks to just lose weight already???
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
4 years ago
Reply to  Cocoa
THe call to action for folks to eat healthier has been ongoing for decades, and has fallen on largely deaf, fat ears, for decades. Do you have any ideas for how to get people to take those suggestions seriously? If people don’t care enough about themselves to avoid morbid obesity, who are they going to listen to, if not their doctor and their conscience? I went from 27-21% BMI in a year by cutting beer intake 90%, simple. Anyone can do it.
Johnson1
Johnson1
4 years ago
Reply to  Cocoa
Maybe this is one reason why the U.S. has a higher death % count than other countries.   I go to Europe and they eat healthier and are skinnier.   I visited a  Europe town of 25k and they only had one fast food place…  McDonalds.    Hardly anyone there would eats hamburgers?   Most of the places are sandwich shops with good quality ingredients….not the 50% meat products subway sells.   
It was always so easy to find a great deli or small mom and pop place to eat healthy in Europe.   In the U.S.,  a mile within my house.  There is a McDonalds,  5 Guys, Smash Burger,  Freddy’s,  Wendys, Burger King, A&W, and a Sonic.     Everyone is now getting super excited because a What-a-burger is suppose to get here too.  
There is a Jimmy Johns and a Subway.  
What is our obsession with unhealthy hamburgers, fries and a soda.  They are everywhere.    Plus add in our infatuation with 32 ounce sodas at the convenience stores. 
Now it seems as if fried chicken and chicken tenders is the next big thing.   Also within a 1 mile of my house is a Popeyes, KFC, Zaxbys, Canes, Chic-a-fila,  Buffalo Wild Wings. 
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
4 years ago
That Apley dude looked pretty chubby.
Hottub
Hottub
4 years ago
Try using Ivermectin, rather than the B.S. vaccines or Remdesivir. But of course, there’s no MONEY in it for Big Pharma or that prick Bill Gates.
Dean_70
Dean_70
4 years ago
Reply to  Hottub
My immediate family got COVID about a month ago. We took Ivermectin following  positive tests. We had extremely mild symptoms for about 3 days and that was it.
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
Reply to  LukeHartwig
L.A. Times MSM propaganda.
“First of all, with regard to Ivermectin. About 3 months ago, in the middle of our last big case surge, I began to use it. ONLY for people with symptoms, people who were COVID positive or their immediate household contacts. What I noticed almost instantly – the drug was not a “wonder” drug – in that people were still ill; HOWEVER, and this is big, I have admitted not one patient to the hospital with COVID since then – and people were just not getting as sick as they had been at home.”
Ivermectin kills the Covid-19 virus in vitro in 24 hours. That is why this doctor had good results from prescribing it.
Ivermectin has efficacy against Covid-19.
Dean_70
Dean_70
4 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
Yes, L.A. Times opinions have no value. This post looks at MANY sources:  https://ivmmeta.com/
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
Reply to  Dean_70
It doesn’t really matter how MANY. There are too many positive studies and positive accounts form doctors who have prescribed Ivermectin.
Dr. Fauci: “We’re looking at an orally administered maybe 7 to 10 days, given to person who is early on in the course of their infection, before you get to the cascade of events that lead to the aberrant activation inflammatory response that kills people.”
Merck developed Ivermectin and is now testing a new anti-viral, which i presume is what Fauci was talking about in his quote. I wouldn’t be surprised if this new pill/capsule, is based on Ivermectin, with some kind of a tweak, so Merck can claim it is new and charge big bucks for it.
Ivermectin kills the CV-19 virus in vitro in 24 hours, that is a fact. It is obvious that it has efficacy against Covid.
But vaccines were the priority and drugs like Ivermectin stood in the way of an EUA for vaccines.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
I was right there with you until the meta-studies made it look less great. I suspect it does work, but to stand up and say you know it works is B.S.  It’s unclear, if you’e the kind of doctor that likes evidence-based medicine.
I TOOK it, and I don’t know if it works. I didn’t get sick, so maybe…..but I’m waiting for the study coming out of the UK, which looks to be better than any of the others.
I agree with those who think Big Pharma wants to crush it. It sure looks that way to me. I don’t know why we didn’t do a big trial with it here last year. Stupid.
Jmurr
Jmurr
4 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
You can get an prescription for Ivermectin using an online company called Push Health. 
Jimdog
Jimdog
4 years ago
This demand that EVERYONE must be vaccinated without any regard for safety is outrageous. For employers to even step into this quagmire is beyond belief when COVID is no worse than the flu insofar as death rates are concerned.
LukeHartwig
LukeHartwig
4 years ago
Reply to  Jimdog
Flu: Hovers under 50K death a year in the US
Carl_R
Carl_R
4 years ago
Reply to  LukeHartwig
It is inappropriate to compare a 50k death number from the flu to the counted numbers from Covid. Only about 7k flu deaths are counted each year, and much less in the last year. The 50K number for the flu is an adjusted number, computed from excess deaths. You should either compare counts to counts, or excess deaths to excess deaths. Thus, you can compare the 7,000 flu deaths counted each year to the 636k counted Covid deaths, or you can compare the 50k excess deaths attributed to the flu to the 800k-1m excess deaths from Covid.
Mish
Mish
4 years ago
Reply to  Jimdog
Anyone still saying Covid is “no worse than the flu” is brainwashed in stupid thinking.
tbergerson
tbergerson
4 years ago
Reply to  Mish
It depends on which age group you are talking about.  For people under 25 it IS no worse than the flu statistically. 
Jimdog
Jimdog
4 years ago
People wake up, the main stream propaganda media is killing this country, not the unvaccinated.  Most of the people dying are obese and in very poor health with many being diabetics.  The propaganda media won’t tell ya that though.  I will never take the vaccine, it’s recently being proven it doesn’t work anyway and likely will do more long term harm than good.  Remember, it’s officially an experimental vaccine!!  It’s primarily just a big money maker for big Pharma!  nuff said.
Jimdog
Jimdog
4 years ago
There is NO VACCINE that will ever eradicate COVID since it’s like the flu.  The real agenda of the vaccine is to keep everyone scared and under Govt. control and that’s the facts jack.
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  Jimdog
Yes. At least until the mid terms are over. Dems need an excuse for uncontrolled mail in voting.
Jimdog
Jimdog
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Exactly, they are oiling the printers up to print the ballots in mass for the dead and the living.  
Dean_70
Dean_70
4 years ago
As expected, vaccine protection against variants not looking good: https://news.yahoo.com/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-just-143124782.html
I do know a vaccinated person recently admitted to the hospital with life-threatening symptoms but these types of stories are being ignored.
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Mish,
You’re falling for misrepresented data. I don’t doubt the majority of covid deaths are among the unvaccinated. But that doesn’t matter. What matters is the pct of unvaccinated who are dying. I would imagine the death toll for ebola is a lot lower among those who were vaccinated too, but should everyone get an ebola vaccine? of course not. Even without the vaccine, the chances of dying from ebola is extremely low.
Mish
Mish
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Please read the Alberta study and enlighten us where it is wrong. The WSJ took a similar look at the data – same conclusion.
But go ahead, enlighten us all, starting here:
Dear Anti-Vaxxers Let’s Discuss the Best Covid Data That Exists Anywhere
nrm
nrm
4 years ago
I have to think that Mr Shedlock is being compensated for this relentless vaccine promotion.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  nrm
That’s f*cking ridiculous.
Mish
Mish
4 years ago
Reply to  nrm
Sheesh – what an idiotic comment.
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
4 years ago
Reply to  nrm
What kind of POS comes on someone’s site and makes unfounded accusations like that? What a dbag.
nrm
nrm
4 years ago
Why would any sensible person trust the criminals who created and released the virus?
These are the same people who are providing the cure.
Corvinus
Corvinus
4 years ago
Here we go again. Take a look at Scott Apley. Really, go ahead and look him up and pull up images of him. The man was highly if not morbidly obese. It is just about certain that he had hypertension and related heart disease issues. His nutrition was likely poor.
The man was just as likely to die of a heart attack or any of a number of related health problems. Same profile as Jonathan Weltsch whom the host of this site referred to in another fear mongering article.
At this point I have to really wonder why Shedlock is pushing this so much and indulging in so much snark and schadenfreude – it certainly doesn’t track with the attitude of any of my fellow Libertarians be they pro or con regarding the vaccine.
Mish
Mish
4 years ago
Reply to  Corvinus
I have the correct Libertarian position.
1. It is the right of companies to set conditions in the workplace. 
2. It is the right of individuals to quit if they do not like the conditions employers set.
3. The one role of government is to protect property rights. The most valuable property right is life.
4. I value my life. You don’t have to value your life. That is your right.
5. It is your right to be stupid, but it is not your right to be a health hazard to everyone else. Unvaccinated pose a general threat.
6. The Supreme Court has correctly ruled on vaccinations many times. Correctly. 
7. It is your right to believe otherwise but it is not your right to not give a damn about spreading disease to others. 
That my friend, is the correct Libertarian position.
tbergerson
tbergerson
4 years ago
Reply to  Mish
Has SCOTUS ruled on vaccines under EUA?  Or ones that have been rushed through trials?  Amy Barrett’s non-decision today is a disaster.
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
4 years ago
Reply to  tbergerson
The moment ACB doesn’t do exactly what you want, she becomes trash. Funny how some armchair internet wacko suddenly has such better legal judgment than conservative darling ACB who has put most of her life into her expertise. What are your qualifications again? Reading Q Anon filth?
tbergerson
tbergerson
4 years ago
My original reply was apparently moderated out of existence.  Rando, using a fake name I see, how brave of you, if you had read my comment you would see that I mentioned nothing about Barrett, but her DECISION, or really the lack thereof, which is the disaster.  It greenlights mandatory vaccinations.  Yay fascism! 
Oh and I am a lawyer, formerly an attorney.  And do not read QAnon.  So keep trolling away.  And keep projecting onto others what you know to be true of yourself (armchair internet wacko).
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
The Dunning-Krueger Effect is strong today. Like a riptide, it courses through social media, reinforcing the biases of the masses. Feel it?
I heard somebody say something about the anti-vax phenomenon that I thought was pretty apropos….and that is this.
“Only in America do people have a inalienable right to make the wrong decision.”
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
What pct of unvaccinated have died from covid? I would guess a very small pct. < 1%. You’re probably more likely to die in a car accident. So should everyone refrain from driving?
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Once again, you’re trying to twist the facts to support your bias. Nice try.
What ever the percentage of untaxed that are getting sick, it’s enough to cause a huge problem.
The real problem is that hospitals are full of sick people and the unvaccinated are much sicker, and much more likely to die. If you have a bad car wreck, good luck on getting an ICU bed.
Almost ALL the hospitalized now are unvaccinated, as are the dying.
If you think overflowing hospitals are no big deal, you lack perspective.
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
“Almost ALL the hospitalized now are unvaccinated, as are the dying.
If you think overflowing hospitals are no big deal, you lack perspective.”
The FDA doesn’t care if hospitals are overflowing. If they did, they would stop blocking Ivermectin and other outpatient therapies, which would keep most of the unCovaxxed from hospitalization and death.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
WTF does the FDA stance have to do with it? If you have a medical license, prescribe it off-label and save some lives.
My guess is that it does work….and I think it’s criminal that we didn’t start trials on it here last year. But you keep talking like Ivermectin treatment means we don’t need a vaccine. I’d be happy to have both.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Over here if a doctor prescribed Ivermectin off label they would lose their licence. 
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
How many people died of a car accident who were not in a car?
How many people died without being vaccinated for COVID who never got COVID?
Same question, completely inane. 
The percentage of COVID deaths are almost exclusively unvaxxed. Vaccination is your best protection. Ignorance is merely the perception of protection.
Johnson1
Johnson1
4 years ago
I am a numbers guy.  FYI…I have been vaccinated. 
Why does the U.S. have a big increase in covid case infections this month but one of the highest vaccinations rates in the world.  I am just basing my information from Google charts and tables.   
India only has a fully vaccination rate of 9% yet covid infections are dropping.  Why are they not increasing with such a low vaccination rate.  Most of the African countries fully vaccination rates are very low and in single digits but how come their covid rates are not increasing as in the U.S..  Same with hospitalization rates.  
Brazil fully vaccination rate is only 22% yet their cases are dropping.  
Something does not add up.   If I browse through many google charts the correlation I see is the higher the vaccination rate then this is were we are seeing the current covid wave of  infection cases increasing.
I am not making this up.  Go look at the charts.  This comes from googles covid vaccination rate charts and covid infection charts.   
The only thing I can come up  with is that people who are vaccinated are less likely to wear mask, wash hands, and keep distances and are thus  spreading covid?  I don’t know?
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  Johnson1
One obvious conclusion is the vaccines don’t work very well. They may help, but clearly don’t provide anything close to immunity.
Jimdog
Jimdog
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Exactly, they don’t work period.  
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  Jimdog
The Dunning-Krueger is strong in this one. Mmmm.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
It might seem obvious, but the data from high vax states, like Massachusetts, tells a different story.
One hundred vaccinated people have died in MA …..but it’s out of 4.4 million plus vaccinated.  0.002% 
Of the 4.4 million vaccinated only 445 have been hospitalized. 0.001%
The vaccines aren’t perfect. But those are excellent numbers actually as far as fighting the disease.
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
It’s almost like someone scoring 1590 on the SATs and these guys say the person is unintelligent because they didn’t get a 1600.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  Johnson1
Good questions, but some of them have decent answers, I think.
The US should not be looked at as a COVID monolith, because the entire US is not really one place with regards to COVID  spread, and not all areas are at the same place at the same time, with regards to the course of the disease. Some states have relatively high tax rates, others much less. All that matters in the numbers.
 Also, in general the US is a highly mobile society, compared with some other places, like most of Africa. We have border leakage, more people flying in and out. 
Brazil is hit with the Lambda variant, and it is behaving differently, compared to our current wave, which is Delta.
 
India was where Delta began, and it is likely that the wave of Delta peaked months ago. Not yet the case here. Maybe some places are close.
I think it is now (in the last couple of weeks anyway) increasingly  the vaxxed who DO use other steps to protect themselves as well, masking and social distancing and hand-washing…..because they are the one’s following the recommended public policies. 
Johnson1
Johnson1
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
@Eddie – What have you heard about reinfections.    
Long term….will we build up immunity.   I have read several reports that reinfection is less than 1%.   Sure there will be different variants but when you get the variant after you had covid once, your body will be better equipped to fight?  Symptoms are not as serious? 
Who knows.  Maybe the common cold was more deadly at one time too?  So maybe COVID variants turn out to be a cold. 
I  have had covid and I have been vaccinated.    From what I have been reading….I think I am in a pretty good spot at not getting sick? 
Carl_R
Carl_R
4 years ago
Reply to  Johnson1
What I have read is that breakthrough infections on those who have already had Covid (i.e. reinfections) are about the same as the breakthrough rate for the vaccinated. I have also read that antibody levels decline by about 3% a month. Based on that, my current expectation is that either vaccination or an actual infection provide about the same protection, a protection that will last about 3 years.  Like you, I have been vaccinated, and also have had Covid, so I should be in good shape, for awhile at least. By the time immunity wears off, we’ll have a lot better idea where we stand.
Carl_R
Carl_R
4 years ago
Reply to  Johnson1
When you look at the data, if you accept it at face value, it sometimes makes no sense. But, factor in some of these, and you realize that the numbers make not tell us anything at all:
1. Some countries do a lot of testing, some not so much.
2. Some countries may deliberately distort the numbers.
3. Sunshine levels and diet differences may play a factor
4. For reasons no one has explained, all nordic countries other than Sweden have exceptionally low numbers. Is it genetics, or something else?
In the end, I have concluded that I don’t even trust the numbers from the various states in the US, so how can I trust the numbers from the rest of the world, much less compare them to anything and try to reach conclusions? I think that once the pandemic is over, some academics will do an analysis of excess deaths by country, and if they can determine that accurately, we finally might have some numbers to compare.
Johnson1
Johnson1
4 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R
True.  Good points
3) It is odd but this current wave is during summer months.  We have sunshine, schools are not in session, people are outdoors more than winter time when respiratory diseases tend to spread (cold/flu).   This outbreak does line up with with the outbreak last fall.   Maybe sunshine does not help versus COVID. 
4) Genetics will probably play a factor in the long run as we learn more?  
COVID can hit you hard but doom also sells.  Sometimes I think sometimes the media is overhyping things.   A week ago the local media was saying the local hospital was filling up with Children having COVID.   All the local news outlets were pushing this story.  A couple of days ago a doctor at the hospital said yes….they are filling up but not because of COVID.  Yes…there are more kids with COVID than last winter but most of the kids have respiratory illnesses that they do not have immunity against yet that usually get passed to each other in the winter months and spreads slowly.   He said because of lockdowns, these typical respiratory illness were delayed and are happening now at once after the lockdown ended.   Thus this is the main reason the hospital is getting full.
But if I do a google search.  The media outlets did not retract or fix their story.  Most everyone still thinks it is covid related still but the hospital only has 11 children with COVID  and 41 with what is called the RSV virus.   So yes, the hospital is filling up as they only have 42 beds but mostly with the RSV virus.  
Anyone remember when Covid was getting starting in China and South China news and EPOC times was saying how over 100 million Chinese had died because all of all the cell phones numbers that were dropped…..etc.  
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
4 years ago
Reply to  Johnson1
cuz muh freedoms
Jimdog
Jimdog
4 years ago
This is an experimental vaccine with a political agenda.  In fact, thousands have died from getting the vaccine but the propaganda media will never tell you that.  The science says you have a greater risk of dying from lighting.   
mrusa
mrusa
4 years ago
Claiming people who believe in the personal liberty to not have the federal government micromanage their personal health decisions believe the earth is flat is arrogant.  Disappointed in Mish; a so-called libertarian.
tbergerson
tbergerson
4 years ago
Well Mish has certainly learned how to drive click traffic.  An article worthy of the Main Stream Media.  Take a single emotional instance to try to paint one group as bad.  Using the informal logical fallacy of false generalization is one of the oldest tricks in the book.
As an older obese guy, if I were him I would have been vaccinated.  If you arent going to have any more kids not much reason not to.  I am vaccinated. 
The problem arises though that the “authorities”, and appparently Mish, are not differentiating between different groups with different profiles.  Older obese guy?  Yeah certainly the cost-benefit favors vaccination.  How about people who have already had COVID?  Cost-benefit definitely against vaccination.  But rule-makers, and high moral cudgel wielders, are not making this distinction.  And how about the young?  Sorry, cost-benefit also fails there.  If you have looked at the CDC death data and the VAERS data it is clear MORE young people have died after taking the vaccine than have died from COVID.  That is just a fact.
So this one size fits all brow-beating, while useful for driving traffic to the sites of people who make their living in the blogosphere selling ads for Google (pretty much the most evil company on earth), is not very useful for the decision-making for many people.
Dutoit
Dutoit
4 years ago
Probably it is possible to make the same kind of article, about someone who had been noisily for vaccine and against anti-vax, and who died from the vaccine…
Bay-Brit
Bay-Brit
4 years ago
Impact of altitude on COVID-19 infection and death in the United States? Population density matching of LA (< 914m, n = 58) and HE (>2133m,
n = 58) counties yielded significantly lower COVID-19 cases at HE
versus LE (615 versus 905, p = 0.034). HE per capita deaths were
significantly lower than LE (9.4 versus 19.5, p = 0.017). However, case
mortality did not differ between HE and LE (1.78% versus 1.46%, p =
0.27). Regression analysis, adjusted for relevant covariates,
demonstrated decreased COVID-19 infection rates by 12.82%, 12.01%, and
11.72% per 495m of county centroid elevation, for cases recorded over
the previous 30, 90, and 120 days, respectively. This population-adjusted, controlled analysis suggests that higher
elevation attenuates infection and death. Ongoing work from our group
aims to identify the environmental, biological, and social factors of
residence at HE that impact infection, transmission, and pathogenesis of
COVID-19 in an effort to harness these mechanisms for future public
health and/or treatment interventions.
alin_s
alin_s
4 years ago
Mish, you’ve done good analysis before and I learned from you.
CDC site: 20% of deaths are people aged 65 yrs old or younger. 80% of deaths are over 65 yrs old. If let’s say 100 thousand deaths in the last 1.5 yrs are below 65 yrs old, and we have (lowball) 200 million Americans who are younger than 65 yrs old, 100 thousand divided by 200 million is 0.05%. So if I’m below 65 yrs old, I have a 99.95% survival rate, right?  Hardly the extinction event everyone so desperately wants this “virus” to be. Not to mention many of these deaths have been coded incorrectly: drug overdoses, car accidents, cancer, heart attacks, etc
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
But Biden had a plan for defeating Covid.
Now we have a president (and others) pleading, cajoling, bribing, and forcing people to wear masks and get vaccinated.
Was that the plan all along? Because pleading, cajoling, bribing, and forcing is NOT much of a plan in my view.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Utah has one of the lowest vaccination rates. It number 33 on the list of fully vaccinated. You should have picked Vermont to move to. They have the highest vaccination rate and the lowest covid death rate.
Bay-Brit
Bay-Brit
4 years ago

Farr’s laws is a law formulated by Dr. William Farr when he made the observation that epidemic events rise and fall in a
roughly symmetrical pattern. The time-evolution behavior could be
captured by a single mathematical formula that could be approximated by a bell shape

In 1840, Farr submitted a letter to the Annual Report of the Registrar General of Births, Deaths and Marriages in England. In that letter, he applied mathematics to the records of deaths during a recent small pox epidemic, proposing that:

“If the latent cause of epidemics cannot be discovered,
the mode in which it operates may be investigated. The laws of its
action may be determined by observation, as well as the circumstances in
which epidemics arise, or by which they may be controlled.”https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farr's_laws#cite_note-2

He showed that during the smallpox epidemic, a plot of the number of deaths per quarter followed a roughly bell-shaped  and that recent epidemics of other diseases had followed a similar pattern. In 1796 Edward Jenner developed the worlds first vaccine against small pox. This is old news.

limitbid
limitbid
4 years ago
Wow Mish–Hard to feel any empathy for a man who died??
You hopefully understand this issue is very complex. Can you agree that some people who got vaccinated had reactions and some died from the “vaccine”? It is in the VAERS system if you don’t understand it. There are people who would have benefitted and those that are harmed. In a free society people are able to make those choices. The “vaccine” is designed to produce spike proteins so your body will enhance its own immune response–for some people that is a good thing and for others it leads to complications or worse . Normally vaccines go through 4-7 years of trials because the science is very complicated. If you think you can handicap this, you are arrogant. Perhaps people who are hesitant to get the shot  have understood the complexity is beyond what is currently known and they are nervous about it. Perhaps people who are hesitant to get the shot are not comforted by the Fauci , CDC and WHO flip flops–ie not a big deal early on in covid (fauci) , no masks needed–wait –you should wear 2 masks. Those that take the shot don’t need to wear a mask—ahhhh –everyone should wear a mask. 
We should all cut each other some slack–tough times and no easy solutions at present that make everyone feel good .
goldguy
goldguy
4 years ago
Reply to  limitbid
I agree limitbid, Nice summation.  My empathy is not reserved for certain people in horrible times like these.  I feel empathy for him and all the others who did get the vaccine and died.  As I have said here, numerous times, the government has lied for over 18 months, and now they want me to believe them?  Sorry, does not work that way in the real world.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
For every Scott Apley, the anti-vaxxers can put a face on some other unfortunate who died of COVID after getting vaccinated. There aren’t many, but they exist, and social media is amplifying their perceived numbers.
That’s a big part of a whole lot of our problems these days. You have large numbers of  people who couldn’t calculate a percentage if they had a supercomputer, and when you put a face on a death, it becomes super-sized.
That’s why it’s best to just look at the data. The data is conclusive. Not many people who get vaccinated get really sick, and almost none of them die. Hospitalizations of vaccinated people are a tiny fraction of the population, compared to the unvaxxed.
Those who suffer unfortunate side-effects from vaccines (their faces are all on the internet too) are also a minuscule fraction of the population.
threeblindmice
threeblindmice
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Innumeracy is certainly an issue.  I noted that some recent paper talked about reinfection rates vs infected vaccinated, by saying reinfection rates were 2.5x the rate of vaccinated insures (a study from Kentucky).  That’s technically correct.  But I calculated that the reinfection rate was 0.0008 vs something like 0.0003.  But somehow, that’s not as exciting a headline if your intent is to alarm people.  I don’t believe any reporter’s claims any more. Not without checking for myself.
Thalamus
Thalamus
4 years ago
Good morning Mish, you need to get on bitchute and listen to videos from Dr. TenPenny, Dr. Carrie Madej, Dr. Judy Mikovits, Dr. Christiane Northrup, Dr. Rashad Buttar, and more for expert discussion from the “other side” on this topic to get a balanced opinion.  
EGW
EGW
4 years ago
What you didn’t mention is the guy was 45 years old and obese (very obese). 45 years old is certainly not a young person and being obese at that age greatly increases one’s health risks. I disagree with the guy’s view on vaccines and maybe if he got it it would have done him some good considering his health, but also if he had lived a healthy lifestyle he would have probably lived too. I also disagree with the way the media, bloggers, etc. use stories like this to insinuate that young people are dying in droves from covid. It’s not true and just fearmongering.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
4 years ago
LIES AND BRAINWASHING by the Big Pharma bribeb and corrupted establishment…. Mish is among them it seems !  Show me some footage of people getting killed or seriously injured by the experimental gene therapy…. Cases are fn ABUNDANT yet carefully hidden !  Hurry up, GO for your third one NOW and the fourth jab in december….VARIANTS BREEDING LAB RATS ! 
shamrock
shamrock
4 years ago
How many innocent people has he also killed or put in the hospital with his ignorance?

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