Disturbing Migrant Center Conditions
Put the Kids on Military Bases?!
Border Town Emergency
Convention Center Idea
https://twitter.com/JohnMiklos3/status/1374443016375521280
“Internal CBP documents obtained by ABC News show there are now 3,889 migrants in the Donna facility that is meant to hold just 250. That means it is currently at 1,556% capacity.”
So much for social distancing.
Biden’s Attempt to Conceal Conditions Collapses
Biden made such a mess of things there was a rare bipartisan attack from both the left and the right criticizing lack of press access to the border.
Biden refused to discuss the situation, repeatedly dodging reporters’ questions until Leaked Images by a Texas Democrat forced the issue.
President Joe Biden’s administration has tried for weeks to keep the public from seeing images like those released Monday of immigrant children in U.S. custody at the border sleeping on mats under foil blankets, separated in groups by plastic partitions.
Administration officials have steadfastly refused to call the detention of more than 15,000 children in U.S. custody, or the conditions they’re living under, a crisis. But they have stymied most efforts by outsiders to decide for themselves.
Officials barred nonprofit lawyers who conduct oversight from entering a Border Patrol tent where thousands of children and teenagers are detained. And federal agencies have refused or ignored dozens of requests from the media for access to detention sites. Such access was granted several times by the administration of President Donald Trump, whose restrictive immigration approach Biden vowed to reverse.
The new president faces growing criticism for the apparent secrecy at the border, including from fellow Democrats.
Wrong Approach
The administration is rushing to open more space to get roughly 5,000 children out of Border Patrol detention and into Health and Human Services facilities that are better suited for youth.
How the hell is that supposed to work?
Joe Biden vs Angela Merkel
Biden is making the same mistake as German Chancellor Angela Merkel who said “We Can Do This” to the nonstop flood of migrants into the EU from Syria and Libya via Turkey and boats across the Mediterranean Sea.
Band-Aids Won’t Work, Tourniquet Needed
Those who make money bringing people across are selling rumors that the border is open. This would have happened whatever Biden’s policies were.
But the best way to counter the rumors is to refuse to let the alleged asylum seekers into the US.
Biden’s policies of letting people into the US to apply for asylum have increased the incentive for unaccompanied children to enter the U.S. illegally.
As with the EU, this is another case where Band-Aids cannot possibly work. A tourniquet is needed to stop the flow.
Unless and until the flow is cut off, we will run out of convention centers, military bases, and makeshift facilities.
Mish
I think we should blindly protect Biden in everyway. Just like what we did before the Election. There is no evidence Biden is doing wrong.
Will you pay more taxes, fees to send these children to Four Season Hotels and Marriot while your National Guards sleep on the garage floor?
Next, another 100K of South America children will come after the 1st batch, then another million will follow.
Shortly, their parents and siblings will demand to join them in the US, are you and your children are ready to take care of them ?
You will see the disaster coming when they bring with them disease after disease and another pandemic will start. May be, left-wing Americans do not have enough problems and poverty!
“Biden is making the same mistake as German Chancellor Angela Merkel”
It’s a feature, not a bug. Democrats want open borders.
I remember reading a story months ago, in which an AP reporter was quoted as saying that open borders was a moderate position. It is actually, radical.
Since we now have a wall in the capital, can we finish the wall on the southern border?
>> “This would have happened whatever Biden’s policies were. ”
That is demonstrably false. Biden literally said they should “surge” to the border.
This is 100% on the democrats. They want Hispanics to enter the US because 2/3rds of them become democrats. It’s a good thing we don’t border a central African nation.
You leave out Republicans love the cheap labor. Both parties have failed to make strides in immigration reform.
Come on. Hiring illegals to save money is party independent.
It is part of the Congressional record…
U.S. Congressman Kerry Bentivolio (R-Mich) stated it plainly: “Democrats want the votes, and the Republicans want the cheap labor.”
The republicans wanted to build a wall and give ICE whatever was needed to hold the border. The democrats are doing the opposite.
Most of these people work under the system anyway. Employment through the system is a joke to these migrants. They would rather be here illegally and do work under the table than go back to their banana republics.
Many countries around the world are getting close to being failed states. People won’t stop trying to migrate until all countries are equally third world.
If Biden is offending everyone on the left and right, he must be doing something right.
What a stupid take. Maybe he’s just doing something WRONG. Can’t stand partisan hacks.
Things were perfect at the border before Biden got in office.
Why is this Biden’s fault? He made a campaign promise and he’s keeping it. If there is anyone to blame for any of these children getting killed and raped it’s the people who voted for Biden. Yes, I’m man enough to take blame when deserved.
Most despicable is the exploitation of these children by the degenerates on both sides of the border.
God guns immigration abortion. Been arguing about it as long as i can remember. Whoever is president has to deal with trumps plan was to make it to brutal to be worth it. Biden trying to be a bit more humane and is getting hammered. Maybe its time for congress to sit down and pass some laws and reform the whole thing. Instead of pointing fingers at whoever is president.
No, it is all trump fault!.
This looks like the beginning of an old movie that I have seen 20 years ago : “Second civil war” .
As awful as this appears to middle class Americans, these conditions are far better than the conditions these people endured to get here and likely better than the conditions from which they fled. Despite party affiliation, any incoming administration would be tested, but, who can argue that Biden’s rhetoric during his campaign and in his first weeks in office have contributed to the disaster?
He said come several times during the campaign. Did he not think they would take him at his word?
Irrespective of who the President was after Trump, this was going to happen. Behavior by migrants is all based on hope of change.
I can’t see this as Biden’s fault. But I don’t like the cover-up of what’s going on, which I can lay on him and his advisors.
Anybody who got elected who was not hardcore anti-immigration was going to get a pent up wave of migrant children, which is what this is……a humanitarian disaster.
Blame it on a lot of things……like no birth control in Central America. They put women in prison in Guatemala on SUSPICION of having terminated a pregnancy. The MEDIAN AGE in Guatemala is 23. In Honduras it’s 24. In Nicaragua it’s 25. In El Salvador it’s 28.
Rule of law is practically nonexistent in Central America. The governments are all seriously corrupt, and gangs and paramilitary thugs run most places.
All of Central America is in a 10 year ongoing drought, which just MIGHT have to do with climate change.
You’re old enough to remember Contra-gate, right? Remember the communist rebel hero Daniel Ortega who came out of the jungle to rule Nicaragua in the 80’s.. Somehow,, some way, he ended up with a net worth of 40 million US dollars. And Nicaragua has riots because they cut social security.
Not sure how this can be handled. Maybe with razor wire and machine gun nests? How else can you POSSIBLY keep them from coming?
In the past the border wasn’t militarized. When that was the case, migrants came north to work ag season then went back home over winter. Now with military guarding border, nobody leaves for fear they won’t get back in again.
What if we demilitarized the border and allowed more free passage? Net migration in late GWB/early Obama years was net zero too. Yes this seems highly counterintuitive. Doesn’t it seem counterintuitive as well that our border issues would get far WORSE once we walled and guarded it?
Now draw a parallel with what happened when Nixon started the drug war. Did it make things better? I’ll argue the reasons are very similar in each instance.
I was never a fan of the drug war. It was a typical fear-based political football designed to appeal to old people and the churchy crowd. And it has netted us nothing but a permanent drug-enforcement bureau with a humongous budget. And it’s filled the prisons with guys who ought to be working a job and supporting their own kids.
The problem with open immigration is that we can’t let the whole world in and offer them benefits that we only dole out to our own poorest citizens. There is no money to pay for that. When 50 percent of the population pays no net income tax, then the poorer immigrants enter the permanent underclass and have no incentive to ever get out of it.
I say let ‘em in and let them find whatever work they can find at whatever pay scale they can get……without legislating a minimum wage…..or guaranteeing them and their kids Medicaid.
“The problem with open immigration is that we can’t let the whole world in and offer them benefits that we only dole out to our own poorest citizens. There is no money to pay for that. When 50 percent of the population pays no net income tax, then the poorer immigrants enter the permanent underclass and have no incentive to ever get out of it.”
Exactly this. It’s what Mish alluded to in his initial post about Merkel. Migrants were all going to Germany because they offered the most free benefits in the Euro Zone.
It’s a huge reason why they are coming here too. Immediate welfare and other benefits. It’s why the illegal flow has to be stopped and only seasonal workers or legal immigrants can come in.
About three years ago Dutch team sampled the waste water of some major cities for cocaine residue. The city with the highest amount, almost double the second one, was Washington DC. I doubt that the users there would want to cut off their supply. The Drug War is a myth and an illusion. Might as well legalize it but also come up with ways of detecting if someone is a user from a relatively short distance away.
Exactly. I think most of these “businesses” in the US are simply money laundering operations for politicians and elites. If the powers that be weren’t making easy money off the drug trade, then the flow would stop. I think it is possible that 50% of the “economy” is simply money laundering and drugs sold through all kinds of businesses. It is breaking bad on steroids.
I wouldn’t go up to 50% but the underground economy is easily 15% or so. What I meant to say is that there is an important and well-networked clientele of people who use these drugs on a daily basis and who have a vested interest in keeping the supply predictable. That our nation’s capital is at the top of the list in cocaine use is not a surprise. I am not saying that representatives and senators are users themselves but how many underlings responsible for carrying out policies are? From the samples taken from the wastewater it looks to a hell of a lot. It’s no reason to wonder why policy formulation and implementation is fucked up.
And you think the USA
has rule of law?
Better look it up
Yes. Sorry, but the US has rule of law.
Maybe somewhat degraded at this point with regards to habeas corpus and the 4th amendment, but compared to Guatemala? That’s a place where people just disappear and their families never even learn where or how they died. It just isn’t anywhere near that bad here.
“Better look it up.”
Look up what, exactly? I’m fairly conversant on the US Constitution, with the judicial system and the political system. I’ve been sued and I’ve been to jail. I’m not a lawyer, but I do know something about the law.
The law has pretty much been my friend, when it comes down to it. I’m grateful for the rule of law, such as it is. We could do better.
Ever seen the South Park Goobacks episode? It’s great to have that attitude until you lose your job.
“How else can you POSSIBLY keep them from coming?”
When a US citizen is caught employing somebody who can’t work in the US legally, put the US citizen in prison. For years.
The rest will all resolve itself. Won’t need to deport a single person.
Do you have any idea how many people that would be? A great number, including me, and most other middle class Texas people. I don’t like that idea.
No, it wouldn’t be a great many people.
The moment that you realized the law would be enforced and that your freedom was on the line, you’d stop hiring people who can’t work here legally, as would 99+% of the others who do it.
There’d be no legal work and 90+% of the people here illegally would self deport.
There is no political will for that at all, especially among the Republican dominated legislature. Just keep dreamin’.
“There is no political will for that at all, especially among the Republican dominated legislature.”
I know.
But you implied that it couldn’t be done. It could be done, and it would relatively easy.
I answered your question about how it could possibly be done, pretending that you were asking seriously, just like we as a society pretend we’re being serious about this.
Neither Party and no businesses want to remove our cheap labor pool. A huge chunk of the population wants to stop illegal immigration, and both Parties want those votes, so they pretend.
How in the hell are you going to put the burden on citizens to identify who is a legal resident versus a nonlegal resident? In the lawsuit crazy US you might even get sued for discriminating against hispanics.
We already require checks for this at hiring. If you hire legally, you’re filling out an I-9 for every employee and that requires a passport or combo of ID/proof of employability.
Gov just changes one thing — e-verify-dot-gov becomes a mandatory instead of a voluntary check — after you complete an employee’s I-9, actually making sure the picture ID matches the face and the documents aren’t obvious forgeries — you run the name and SSN through e-verify-dot-gov. If it fails, you immediately terminate the employee.
This isn’t a tough problem to solve. The issue, as eddie_t demonstrated, is that people don’t really want to solve it.
Biden getting some really bad advice or refusing good advice
I voted for Biden but I think that the Democrats need to look realistically at their immigration policy. The US just can’t make it very easy to enter the US just because life is better here than where they are leaving. We would get much of the rest of the world. But I am definitely not an advocate of separating children from their parents. Anyone who walks clear through Mexico to get to the US is not a political refugee but an economic refugee which aren’t allowed.
Yet another overlooked tragedy is that a large number of women and girls (40-60%!) attempting to cross the border illegally are raped on the passage. It’s horrific to encourage illegal immigration. This is the result of Dems virtue signaling to their base that having a border is xenophobic and racist thereby abandoning commonsense, bipartisan, multi-decade policies of limited, legal, orderly immigration.
It also didn’t help that Biden said he’d give stimulus money to illegals in addition to citizens. So it’s an extra incentive to rush to cross to get more money than most of them got in a year in their own country.
This is such BS gonna have to put my shitkickers on its so deep.
I don’t think that was Biden. It was our CA governor Newsom, who is looking like he is going to have to face a recall election for initiatives likes this and his management of the Covid scamdemic.
This will continue to be a never ending problem due to lack of economic development and lack of the use of birth control in the south of the border countries.
The only solution is to make Latin America an offer they can’t refuse – become US states. Then we won’t have any border crossing issues except from South America and that border line is very small, so should be easier to defend.
Mexico already has built a wall on its southern border. We just need to help them keep it up better. Trump was doing that in conjunction with the Mexican president who also doesn’t want the hoards of migrants crossing through his country.
Helping Mexico with their wall would be beneficial to us.
Yes a Wall is a good start but just part of an overall strategy. But typically it would be one of the first pieces of the puzzle. For some reason we never got this I think the elites did not truly want to stop the cheap labor from reaching our shores.
Funny thing about the left… they’ll smack down their own leaders when they screw up, while the right either ignores it or comes back with “yeah, but what about…” Its almost as if one side is a tribe of morons worshipping a ‘king’.
The right ?
The left ?
All the same, controlled
Thought
Democrat fatcats make a much better s**t sandwich than Republican fatcats. Mmmmmmmm yum
Your full of shat.
Bruh, really, isn’t he right? Trump was the biggest doufous of a president this country has had in nearly hundred years – with many atrocious policies; yet all the Republicans locked arms and defended his bs. For ex. look at Gov Cuomo in NY; there are so many Democrats calling on him to resign over far less sexual misconduct than Trump, but you didn’t hear a chorus of republicans calling on him to resign…no, that’s what sanctimonious democrats do to their own.
Yea, because no republicans ever criticized Trump.
Is that why it took so long for them to condemn Cuomo?