Bitcoin Margin Calls, Waterfall Events, and People Pretending to Know the Unknowable

Bitcoin chart courtesy of StockCharts.Com annotations by Mish

In speculative mania land, Michael Saylor, CEO of MicroStrategy, borrowed money to buy Bitcoin. 

There is a margin call if Bitcoin tumbles to $21,000.

Yesterday, I asked How Many Days Before Bitcoin Hits Margin Call Price of $21,000?

I was curious what people actually thought.

This triggered a Tweet storm.

Margin Debate

https://twitter.com/tim_chal/status/1524483597750571009

Dishonest?

https://twitter.com/tim_chal/status/1524491209338544128

MicroStrategy was asked during the earnings call, “How far does bitcoin have to fall for MicroStrategy to receive a margin call on the Silvergate loan?”

As far as where bitcoin needs to fall, we took out the loan at a 25% loan-to-value, the margin call occurs at50% loan-to-value. So essentially, bitcoin needs to cut in half or around $21,000 before we’d have a margin call,” MicroStrategy CFO Phong Le replied.

I said margin call. Nothing more nothing less. And it can easily cascade, easily. 

A Cascade?

Calculated Calm Requested

Definition of Can

I said “can” not will. I don’t know, nor does anyone else. 

People pretend to know, on both sides. 

I appreciate the compliment from Chal Tim: “Mish you are great and I will continue to read your blogs because you are a source of alpha but this scenario will not happen.” 

But neither Chal (an extreme bull) nor CryptoWhale (an extreme bear) knows where Bitcoin is headed. 

Extreme Confidence in Both Directions!

CryptoWhale says “#Bitcoin will hit $10,000 this year. I’m so confident in my prediction that If I’m wrong, I will give $1000 in $BTC to anyone who retweets this post.”

Needless to say, I got no reply asking for a contract.

Sensible Comment on Margin

“A lot commentary on FinTwit on levels which trigger a margin call. Margin level requirements constantly move and are contingent on the capricious whims of the margin clerk. If they’re scared, Fugedaboutit!”

In addition to the excellent comment by Norinsberg, note that he made no predictions about what will or will not happen.

Impossible to Know the Unknowable

People are so wrapped up in what they think they know, that you get attacked simply for discussing the matter. 

MicroStrategy CFO Phong Le said there’s a margin call at $21,000. I assume that is the approximate level. 

Yep, I fully understand that Saylor is willing to ride his conviction and blow up MicroStrategy. 

He did it once before!

MSTR 1999-2003

MSTR from 1999 to 2003 chart courtesy of StockCharts, annotations by Mish

Does anyone recall MSTR in the dotcom bubble years? 

Flashback March 21, 2000: MicroStrategy Stock Plunges 62%

MicroStrategy Inc.’s share price plummeted 62 percent yesterday after the Vienna-based software company announced that its 1999 revenue was much less than it originally reported and that the year’s profit was actually a loss.

Stunned investors slashed $11.1 billion from the highflying technology company’s market value–and $6.1 billion from the personal fortune of Michael J. Saylor, the founder and chief executive.

Bonus Flashback: MicroStrategy Chairman Accused of Fraud by S.E.C.

Mr. Saylor settled the civil charges that were filed in federal court in Washington without admitting or denying them and agreed to pay $8.3 million to shareholders and a $350,000 penalty to the S.E.C.

The S.E.C. contended that Mr. Saylor and two other MicroStrategy officials, who each agreed to pay $350,000 in penalties and to pay a total of $1.7 million to shareholders, had committed fraud in reporting profits when the company was actually losing money.

Mr. Saylor and the two other officials, Sanjeev K. Bansal, the chief operating officer, and Mark Lynch, a former chief financial officer who is still with the company, also consented to injunctions barring them from violating securities laws.

Saylor made billions of dollars and got of with a mere $8.3 million to shareholders and a $350,000 to the SEC, without having to admit guilt. 

I don’t know if he was guilty of fraud, but I do know that MSTR had to restate earnings into a loss. 

I also know he is has turned MSTR into a leveraged speculative play on Bitcoin, betting the entire company in the process.

Saylor a Genius?

For all the people who think Saylor is a genius, please note he did not make the current bet at $500, $1000, or even $5000 but near $30,000. 

And that bet is smack in the face of the Fed hiking and pulling liquidity in what should easily be seen as the biggest speculative mania ever.

Yet, people have faith in what he says about margin calls and where Bitcoin is headed despite the fact he ran MSTR into the ground once before.

Still others, both bears and bulls, pretend they “know” where Bitcoin is headed. 

What a hoot!

Final Word on How Cascades Happen

  1. Margin call, more Bitcoin pledged, more margin calls, more pledged. 
  2. Those who got in at $25,000 and do not want to turn a huge profit into a loss sell.
  3. That happens again at $20,000, and again at $18,000. Then some whales might get panicky. 
  4. And then and then?

Musical Tribute

Yet, someone tells me everything is OK because of orderbooks. Yeah right. 

Can order buy books be fake? Can legitimate orders be pulled? Are the margin calls where people think they are? Most importantly, what about all of the people who see Bitcoin plunge and then react on the spot?

Putting stop losses where market makers can see them isn’t exactly brilliant. 

Finally, bear in mind that Bitcoin futures = paper Bitcoin but margin calls are very real.

Words of advice: People panic. The Fed is not Jones. Orderbooks might not be what they seem. Jones may not come by this time. And if he does, perhaps his hat is black. 

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Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
The problem with Bitcoin is that it IS valued by anyone.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Most margin calls are non negotiable. Once a price is hit, part of the portfolio is liquidated to pay back the loan. A computer algorithm does it in seconds. Maybe if there’s no collateral, it has to be negotiated, but I think it’s rare to get margin with no collateral. Maybe I’m just too small a fish to get no collateral margin.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Used to be you got a phone call and maybe a telegram.
You had until a tad after start of business the next morning to cover the margin without being liquidated.
If the price dropped in the morning you were on the phone working things out.
This always involved more money or percentage liquidation.
FrankieCarbone
FrankieCarbone
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
My three personal rules of investing:
1. For high-risk investments never invest more than you can afford to lose.
2. Assume that the $$ spent on tail risk investments is gone, forever.
3. NEVER use leverage.
I bought a little under 10K in tail-risk puts on the mkts, 1/23 LEAPS this Jan. Got them for a song. And then they lost half of their value. Didn’t care. No stop-outs or whipsaws cause’ I do not limit, and I follow Rules (1-3).
Now I’m up on EVERY position. With 260 days or so left in the contracts.
DISCIPLINE, DISCIPLINE, DISCIPLINE, and to Mish’s point: Always remember that it ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what yer’ sure you know that just ain’t so!
Don’t marry your assets; Date them. And for the high-risk/high-reward (VERY small) percentage of your portfolio? Consider that $$ gone.
PS. Not a licenced professional. Lose your own money at your own risk.
TheCaptain
TheCaptain
1 year ago
My models indicate that bitcoin bottomed today after filling the gap from 12/2020. It will be interesting to see in the fullness of time how unknowable that was.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  TheCaptain
I was really hoping GBTC would go below $15 today but only got as low as $17. I didn’t buy and I hope I don’t regret it.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
….being deluded must be such a great sensation…..I DO envy you !….Personally though I don t believe in idiotic, based on NOTHING virtual stuff, …..Btw, don t forget to sell to the next fool when you ve made a nice profit at one point….. Good luck
TheCaptain
TheCaptain
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
GBTC is trading at nearly 25% below NAV so a bounce of some kind is likely, but if my expanding wedge model is correct, it could really shock people how high this intrinsically worthless garbage goes before it goes LUNA.
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
1 year ago
Elliott waves in the US markets (SPX, INDU, NDX) are starting to make more sense. There are many degrees of waves 1-2 forming with a majority of wave 2’s being flats. This signals much larger drops with gaps lower are ahead. As all the wave 3’s end, there will be a LOT of high frequency swings (zig-zags) of relatively large amplitude for nimble traders.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Six000mileyear
Is this anything like “Surf’s up!”
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago

“Still others, both bears and bulls, pretend they “know” where Bitcoin is headed. What a hoot!”

I don’t know about a “hoot” but what you are describing is the free market and it should be encouraged. Some people think bitcoin is undervalued others think it’s overvalued. There is an easy solution for everyone, put your money where you mouth is and show us the road to riches whether that’s bitcoin, gold, stocks, bonds, or tulips.
I love the volatility. I bought apple at 154 and thought it was a good buy, it’s at $140 now and I was going to buy more but got distracted at work so I’ll have to wait till tomorrow. Some think Apple will go down below $100 others think it will hit $200 and that’s what makes a market.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
Well said. No one knows the future. However, we trade and invest based on our “best guess” of where we think things are headed. If you think Apple will do well going forward, you can buy more Apple shares.
I have no idea where bitcoin is going, but I decided to buy some yesterday as a trade as it has dropped so fare already. I am merely ooking for a bounce. Not a long term believer.
Same with gold. Not a long term holder. Though if it drops below $1800, I might buy some for a trade.
My long term investments have a high percentage of oil stocks, because my best guess is that these companies will continue to do extremely well at any oil price over $80. Every day brings more news of record cash flow, increasing dividends, share buybacks and debt repayments. Some are trading at less than 1.5X EV/CF at $100 oil.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
I own energy stocks, XOM, BP and CVX but they are not without risks. The biggest risk right now is what government may do to limit so called “price gouging” and that can be in a form of taxes, price controls or outright seizures using eminent domain. Unlikely but who knows what crazy things will happen if fuel hits $15/gallon or more.
Instead, I’ve been loading up on dividend kings and aristocrats like Prudential and Walgreens. PRU has a $1.20 dividend/share coming up with Ex-dividend date May 24. I am trying to avoid any business that has heavy reliance on fuels (Fedex, UPS, airlines, trucking, cruise lines, etc) because it’s going to get a lot uglier than it is now.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
The oils may be at risk because of possible windfall taxes, but it is difficult for govt to put extra taxes on them while they are demanding that they produce more.
The majority of my oils are Canadian, as recommended here, so hopefully the Canadian govt will not put on windfall taxes as they are not in election mode.
The dividends from oil stocks are in the process of being raised, and the companies are actually committing to returning up to 100% of free cash flow to investors.
Example:
TOU has raised its base dividend to .20/share and announced a 1.50/share special dividend this month. Their FCF was 600 million this qtr. They have committed to 3 more quarters of special dividends based on FCF and they expect FCF to be over 3 billion in the next 9 months. Which would equate to another $7.50 in special dividends over the next 9 months. Plus the base dividend. On a $67 (C$) stock. And thanks to this blog, I was buying this stock when it was under $20.
tomhtu
tomhtu
1 year ago
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  tomhtu
I read that article this morning and I couldn’t believe it when I read it but hey we’re at the end of the republic so anything goes….

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