California Governor Newsom Faces a Recall and a Libertarian Might Win

Recall of Governor Gavin Newsom 

A recall vote of California Governor Gavin Newsom is in progress. It started over Newsom’s handing of Covid and most figured it was doomed.

But in April 2021, the secretary of state certified that the effort had enough signatures to trigger a vote.

The vote is on September 14. The vote has two parts: 

Part one is a yes-or-no question: Shall the officeholder be recalled? Part two offers a list of successor candidates—46 have qualified in this recall. Each voter chooses one of them, and if the recall is successful, whichever candidate earns a plurality fills out the term.

Larry Elder did not enter the race until July 12, but suddenly he is either leading or in second place depending on what poll one believes.

Who Is Larry Elder?

The Sacramento Bee reports Right-Wing Talk Show Host is Leading the California Recall Election Polls.

From minimum wage to Black Lives Matter, Donald Trump to the War on Drugs, Elder has taken a number of far-right conservative positions over the years. 

The article reads like a hit piece on Trump. He is actually a Libertarian, not right-wing.

Elder Does Not Believe in Minimum Wages

Similarly, the Washington Post goes after Elder in Meet the leading candidate to unseat California’s governor — who doesn’t believe in the minimum wage

Radio host Larry Elder, the leading opponent to California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D), has long embraced the position that the minimum wage is unnecessary. The conservative even told a newspaper editorial board last week that “the ideal minimum wage is $0.00,” adding, “Why two people who are adults can’t determine what the price of labor ought to be is beyond me.”

Most polls — though not all — show that if Newsom goes down, Elder will get a plurality of the voters, despite the fact that Elder announced his run only last month. (One poll shows voters favoring little-known Democrat Kevin Paffrath, a YouTube vlogger.)

Elder has zero elected government experience. He’s an ardent Trump supporter in a state where even many Republicans find the former president abhorrent. He didn’t even bother to show up to Wednesday night’s Republican candidates’ debate.

It seems unfathomable that Californians actually support what amounts to Elder’s fringe, right-wing position on worker pay. Despite the fact that the federal government has left the federal minimum wage at a paltry $7.25 an hour for more than a decade, California has moved aggressively to raise the lowest hourly earnings for its workers. 

Could a Conservative Replace Gavin Newsom?

The Wall Street Journal gets the idea correctly: 

“A quixotic effort to recall California’s governor is suddenly gaining steam. And libertarian radio host Larry Elder is the front-runner,” reports the WSJ.

Please consider Could a Conservative Replace Gavin Newsom?

He describes himself as libertarian—which means liberal on cultural issues like same-sex marriage. His dad instilled an ethos of self-reliance and personal responsibility. “My father always told us, hard work wins,” he says. “You can’t control the outcome, but you’re 100% in control of the effort.” 

Mr. Elder ticks off numbers like a sportscaster. “There are 300,000 public-school teachers in California. It is estimated by virtually every expert I talk to that a minimum of 5% of them are incompetent. That’s 15,000 teachers walking through the corridors of our schools, educating our kids. Now, we wouldn’t put up with that with the LAPD”—the Los Angeles Police Department.

“There was recently a study that showed two-thirds of black parents do not want to send their kids back to the Los Angeles School District, and one of the reasons they cite is ‘systemic racism,’ ” he says. “What they mean is this: the worst teachers end up in the urban schools. They don’t end up on the West Side, they don’t end up in the Valley; the worst teachers end up in the urban schools. And black and brown parents are aware of this, and they want something done about it.”

Mr. Elder supports an initiative that the California School Choice Foundation may place on the November 2022 ballot to establish education savings accounts, allowing parents to use taxpayer dollars that would normally go to zoned public schools for private-school tuition, homeschooling and other education-related expenses.

“You can now steal up to $950 without being guilty of a felony if you get caught. If you get caught, you get a ticket as a misdemeanor,” Mr. Elder says. That feeds addiction, as many shoplifters support their drug habits by selling stolen goods. “And by the way, it’s not just $950—it’s $950 every single day, at every single place, which is why you’re finding places like Walmart, Target that are closing up—because they can’t make any money, because people are stealing. Or they’re cutting hours and hurting the very employees that used to work there.”

The Democratic secretary of state moved to keep Mr. Elder off the ballot because he didn’t properly redact personal information on 300 pages of personal tax returns he submitted. Mr. Elder sued and won his ballot spot.

Face-ism

“People have asked me whether or not this is some sort of attack against Larry Elder, whether or not it was racism. Well, the secretary of state happens to be a black female, and I’ve always said it’s not racism that they were engaging it, it’s ‘face-ism,’ meaning this particular face,” he says. “I’m from the inner city. I’m a product of public schools. . . . I believe that they’re afraid of my ability to explain these kinds of things in ways that Joe and Joanne Six Pack can understand, and in ways more effectively than Republicans have in the past.” 

Is the Golden State ready for a political turn? “I hope it’s becoming more conservative, but I can’t say that,” Mr. Elder says. “All I know is people are fed up.”

California Democratic Party instructs voters to leave ballot question 2 blank

People Are Fed Up

The key idea is “people are fed up”. 

If they weren’t a Newsom recall would have zero chance in Democrat-led California.

Of the 46 candidates to replace Newsom, only one is a Democrat. 

If that was the only fact I had, I would place Elder’s chances at roughly zero percent.

But here we are. 

Expect the unions to launch an all out push for the Governor. 

This will be decided on Turnout. If Democrats sit this out, and people of common sense do turn out, Elders has a good shot. 

I am astonished by the Party’s recommendation to leave question 2 blank. 

I believe that is bad instruction by Newsom and hope Democrats follow it.

It would also help if some of Republicans dropped out and backed Elders.

Good luck and best wishes to Elders. 

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LM2022
LM2022
4 years ago
Republicans can’t actually win a fair election in this state, because their views and policies are toxic to most people – hence 2 recalls in less than 20 years trying to overturn the will of the voters.  I think the recall will fail, but in the event it succeeds and Newsom is recalled then the very next day I’d be willing to sign a petition to recall whatever nutty right winger skates in with 10% of the vote.  
Jojo
Jojo
4 years ago
Newsom’s tyrannic Covid management is the primary reason the recall petition succeeded. 
Under Newsom’s heavy-handed use of emergency powers, businesses were forced to open and close, open and close repeatedly. Covid rules seemed to change every couple of weeks.
Healthy people were quarantined in their homes for extended periods. Many lost jobs that will never come back. Many had to spend long hours waiting in line for food handouts. Many landlords have tenants that are behind on rent and are unlikely to ever pay what they owe. Religious freedom was constrained. 
Covid was used as an excuse by Newsom to move hundreds of thousands of homeless and drug addicts into hotels on the public dime. Hundreds of thousands of businesses were forced to shut down. Billions of individual and business assets evaporate due to unreasonable fear of Covid. Lifetime savings were lost.
Newsom thought that Covid would hand us a significant budget deficit but  that supposed deficit turned into a massive budget SURPLUS ($75 BILLION!) that Newsom is now using to bribe people into voting for him with huge money handouts, lottery prizes for getting vaccinated and at least a $600 payment (coming in September right before the recall vote) for 3.4 of the state population.
Then there is his fire mismanagement, where he apparently learned nothing from last years huge fires and so here we are again with the same problems of CA burning to the ground.
Next there are the serve water problems across the state as we wallow in yet another extended drought.  Farmers are plowing there crops and trees under as their water gets turned off.
And don’t forget that while the public schools were closed, Newsom’s kids were in private, in-person schools.
Outside of his poor Covid management, Newsom is the first Governor to lose a House Congressional seat due to so many people leaving the state under his watch.
Then there was that no-mask, in-your-face dinner he attended at the famous French Laundry where the wine bill alone came out to $12,000!
Newsom and his supporters want to gloss over his Covid and state mismanagement by trying to turn the recall into the usual “us vs. them” issue (Pubs vs. Dems). It’s NOT!  Newsom is the epitome of privilege and incompetence, rolled into one package.
Cocoa
Cocoa
4 years ago
While everyone on this board is waxing poetic about the red herring du jour, COVID let’s look at Governor Newsom and his handling of PGE and the fires. While Newsom and PGE like to blame global warming, the facts are:
  • Newsom has received 10 million from PGE over his career since SF Mayor
  • Newsom’s wife is the head of some marginal non-profit(makes documentary films for liberals) and gets a salary of 290,000 dollars. PGE is a main donor as is Blue Cross
  • Newsom brokered the PGE deal which let PGE corporation continue to manage the PGE utility(siphons money out of utility.) Damages awards was STOCK in PGE which is borderline worthless as it’s lost 2 billion since in total capitalization
  • Newsom continues to talk tough on PGE but received 100’s thousands of dollars in campaign donation from an entity that was convicted as a criminal
So, regardless of COVID, the management of the utility for most of Northern Cal is paramount to the safety of the taxpayer and ratepayers and Newsom basically is bribed from going after them. What a tool
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Reply to  Cocoa
So, replace him with a Green Party candidate in 2022.   Swapping Newsom for a right-wing Republican/libertarian/whatever is like swapping the frying pan for the fire.
El_Tedo
El_Tedo
4 years ago
Just because someone leans libertarian, doesn’t mean they belong in the nihilistic Libertarian party.  The parties are coalitions and the Republicans are (marginally) less authoritarian than the Dems. 
Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
4 years ago
FWIW this race to get to herd immunity through vaccines is a marathon and not a sprint. States like Texas and Florida treated it like a sprint and didnt use the senses of a marathon runner. California has taken a better approach to recovery and management of the health care system. 
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
If California’s management of the pandemic is so good then why is does the governor risk losing the recall? Is it because Californians are stupid and can’t discern between failure and success? I doubt that. 
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
Covaxxinated people are getting infected.
Biden wanted 70% by July 4. It is only a marathon because a lot of people don’t want the Covaxxine, as opposed to getting it as soon as available.
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
California had a huge surge in cases last winter, as any casual observer would have noticed. California and Florida were pretty much even in outcomes, even though Florida opened Disney World, while Newsom kept Disneyland closed until April this year.
Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
4 years ago
People may be fed up but if we are truly grading Newsom he hasnt been as bad as people think. Dont let the antivaxxer libertarians fool you.  I predict a huge turnout but the outcome wont be what the polls are suggesting.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
If the right-wingers lose, I predict they will waste zero time in switching over to how the elections were rigged and that there were “millions” of bogus voters etc. etc.   As always, they will have zero evidence.   Same old same old.
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
74,000 unmailed mail in ballots were discovered in Arizona during the forensic audit.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
USA Today:  “We rate FALSE the claim that more than 70,000 mail-in ballots counted in Maricopa County were never sent. The claim erroneously conflates all early votes, including in-person votes, with mail-in ballots. Maricopa County officials have said there were fewer mail-in ballots returned than requested. There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud affecting Arizona’s 2020 election results.”
Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
4 years ago
California is reporting 141.1 new coronavirus cases for every 100,000 residents over the last seven days — a rate half that of Texas, 297.8; and less than one-fourth that of Florida’s rate of 653.8, https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases_casesper100klast7days from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. California’s rate is also less than the national average of 232.1.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
California has a covid death rate of 163 per 100,000. Texas has 181 per 100,000. Florida has 187 per 100,000. New Jersey and New York have around 300 deaths per 100,000. 
I notice that media now like reporting new cases rate because it does make blue states look better. It would be better to look at the whole story.
Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78

What matters is post vaccine. California is in a much better position to handle the delta variant. Texas is importing workers in health care from other states. Florida is even worse. The vaccine rate is rising in California still. 

“It’s important to remember that if you give a message to people that we don’t care about the virus here, you’ll attract more people who have that mindset,” Florida International University epidemiologist Aileen Marty https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-nightly/2021/08/09/whats-full-in-florida-besides-hospitals-493910.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Are you sure about that? It’s not over yet and when it will be we will be able to judge who did better and for what people. Till then looking at the overall figures it is a mixed bag. TX, CA,FLA and NY are the big states and the only outer is New York. If we look at New York ex NYC we get a death rate close to the other states. Each of these states had different strategies yet they all ended up roughly in the same range. Kind of strange wouldn’t you think?   
Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
4 years ago
Libertarians would do nothing during a pandemic. It would be worse than Texas or Florida.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Actually, they will make it a whole lot worse.   No mask rules, no vaccination requirements, stopping all work-from-home arrangements for state employees, no screening at workplaces and so on.   Remember these are the folks that claim government doesn’t work.  If you put them in charge of government, they will throw as much sand in the gears just so that they can say, “I told you so”. 

If a Republican or a libertarian (who are just Republicans that want to smoke pot and pretend to be against imperialist wars) manages to get elected, they will destroy so much in the one year and 2-3 months they will have, that it will take years and years to recover from it, if ever.  

RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
Sweden did okay, with very little government intervention.
With HCQ, the pandemic was treatable at the earliest stage of viral symptoms, early on into the pandemic.
HCQ was blocked for political reasons. Hospitalizations and deaths soared, as patients were prevented from being treated by their doctor, prior to hospitalization. That is extremely corrupt.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
Sweden’s death rate was 1438 per million vs Norway’s 148 and Finland’s 179.   If that is your definition of “okay”, then I wouldn’t want to see what your definition of “bad” is!   
Jojo
Jojo
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
It’s still a miniscule number of people out of the total population.  Absolute deaths are a poor measure but they do work weel to upset 7 scare the math challenged. 
If their deaths follow what we have seen in the USA, then the vast majority of people who passed were old, decrepit, overweight and/or had multiple comorbidities.  You can think of it as a cleansing or weeding of the herd of the weak and infirm, which should benefit the Swedish economy going forward.
Presented for your consideration:
Sweden: Despite Variants, No Lockdowns, No Daily Covid Deaths
Michael Fumento
– July 30, 2021
Since the Covid pandemic broke out, Sweden has been fought over more than any other part of Europe since Germany in the 30 Years War. In refusing to use an iron fist to control a virus, lockdown advocates claimed it was either committing murder or suicide; choose your favorite metaphor. Relatively few such as me, in three separate articles, claimed the Nordic country was sparing both the economy and something called “liberty” with its light-handed approach. My favorite title (editor chose it): “Media Enraged That More Swedes Aren’t Dying.”
Thus last year we saw such headlines as CNN’s “Deaths Soar In Country That Didn’t Lock Down. Officials Identify Big Reason Why.” Around the same time “Sweden Steadfast In Strategy As Virus Toll Continues Rising,” claimed another source. “Sweden’s Coronavirus Strategy Drives Up Infection Rate,” screamed the BBC. Everyone was playing pile-on. “Sweden Has The Highest Daily Coronavirus Death Rate In The World – And It’s Getting Worse.” That’s from Yahoo Sports. Sports?
Modelers desperately tried to scare Sweden into locking down. One predicted an incredible median of 96,000 deaths, with a maximum of 183,000. At Sweden’s Lund University an academic used the parameters in the now-infamous Neil Ferguson/Imperial College model to warn that it meant 85,000 deaths for Sweden. An Uppsala University team also found the nation paying a terrible price with 40,000 Covid-19 deaths by May 1, 2020 and almost 100,000 by June.
Total Swedish Covid deaths at this writing: 14,651.
….
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
“It’s still a miniscule number of people out of the total population. “

Did you say the same thing after 9/11/01 as well?  

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
4 years ago
Things are way worse in Texas and Florida. 
IB6
IB6
4 years ago
That is why Californians migrate to Texas in droves, right?
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  IB6
They stop at the first low tax state. Thank God they don’t get to Florida.
IB6
IB6
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
You get New Yorkers, we get Californians. I am not sure which are worse, in a sense “lets ruin our own state and then run to another one and ruin it as well”
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  IB6
Florida also gets a lot of Midwesterners which dilutes the New Yorkers although we have been getting more and more (shutter!) Canadians who are not even Americans!
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Reply to  IB6
Yet another right-wing myth.
“1.55 percent of California residents moved out of state during the 2010-15 period.

No state had a lower per-capita movement rate than California. Yes, we Californians are the least likely to move out! Next best state for keeping its citizens? Texas at 1.6 percent annually, then Ohio and Michigan at 1.8 percent.

Note: 2.3 percent of Americans moved across state lines annually in 2010-2015. Worst exit rates? Energy-rich states in cold climates: Alaska 11.6 percent, Wyoming 5.4 percent and North Dakota 3.89 percent.”

https://www.ocregister.com/2017/01/18/numbers-bust-the-myth-theres-no-great-exodus-from-california/  

Btw, that is from a right-wing newspaper based in Orange County.

IB6
IB6
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
A perfect example of Oregon-style woke liberal math where 2+2=5.
Then pick year of their choice, lets say 2019 and look at numbers: 82,235 moved from CA to TX but 37,063 from TX to CA. 
Californians flock to Texas. Probably because Texas is a mess. 
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Reply to  IB6
Some go there because they see the comparatively lower house prices.  But I have come across a few that have realized that the lower house prices come at a high cost, especially if they are open-minded, liberal type of people.   
Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
PhD stands for permanent head damage. Why not take a survey of real doctors instead of Doctors of Philosophy?
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
That’s an observation and not an explication. Most PhDs are in the hard sciences.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
I think it’s because they’re aware of the POSSIBLE issues around the vaccines. There are some things that are certainly worth worrying about. No doubt.
On the other hand, I don’t think most PhD’s are much better than anybody else at assessing risk for themselves and the population at large, because the actual data is clear as far as the efficacy of the vaccines, and the risks to individuals, and more especially to the population at large, which are quite low, compared to letting the disease run its course.
The things PhD’s worry about……spike protein accumulation in various organs, possible cultivation of resistant variants, whatever you can name……all that is hypothetical……not fake, but certainly not showing up yet in the data as legitimate reasons not to vax.
At a time when hospitals are full, it makes sense from a public health standpoint to follow the policy that saves the most lives in the present moment , and to accept the possible future negative issues and try to keep assessing  the risk v. benefit equation. We’ve vaccinated an awful lot of humans now. Whatever that means in terms of variants, or in terms of side effects….that will show up in the data and we can adjust our approach to dealing with this virus…just like we’ve adjusted the way we approach some other vaccines that are less than perfect, like the Dengue vaccine.
You made an excellent observation yesterday, and that is that in the west, in the areas where vaccination rates are even fair, deaths from COVID have dropped a lot…while in parts of the world with no vaccinations, the Delta variant (and probably Lamda in some places, like Brazil, if you’ve been following the closely) the disease is much more deadly. That is a tell.
Once again. We are not talking about a disease that does little harm, as some would try to claim. Surgeons can’t operate because the hospitals are full of COVID patients. Kids are getting sick from Delta, some of them very sick. We have bad numbers a a time of year when we should have the best numbers. With schools opening, and that public policy all over the map…and with many places (like here) run by populists who use their poll numbers to make public health decisions, things are apt to get much worse as we go into the coming holiday season.
Rbm
Rbm
4 years ago
Newsoms handling of the pandemic is not perfect. At least  he was on the radio every day discussing the problem like an adult and not sowing discord.    I may not agree with him on some issues but the adult thing goes a long way.  
megaculpa
megaculpa
4 years ago
Elder is one of the Elders.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
I would say that the key is how the COVID Delta fares in the red states.  Right now, it is a disaster IMO.  But if it gets any worse, more voters in California would agree with that, and that voting out Newsom would bring the same disaster to California as well, which has been handling COVID Delta in a much better way.   
ajc1970
ajc1970
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
Southeast got hammered all last summer and they’re getting hammered this summer.

The thing is clearly seasonal but also regional (hits the north when it’s cold in winter and everybody goes inside, hits the south when it’s hot in summer and everybody goes inside).
So if your premise is right, Newsom is in luck because red states will keep getting hammered until the recall vote.
I think it will come down to people not wanting to be locked down and/or masked — especially vax’d people and right wingers.  If he caves into a lockdown before 9/14 or hints at one coming after 9/14, he’s toast.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Reply to  ajc1970
Vax’d people generally know that wearing masks is primarily to protect those who are  not vaccinated – like children, others who cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons and also, as a side effect, the anti-vaxers.   And they also know that if there is another lockdown it would be due to the anti-vaxers and not because the governor wanted to do it.   In fact, most of the vax’d in California I have spoken to, have felt that Newsom was a little too eager to open up everything before the situation was under control.
Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
4 years ago
Reply to  ajc1970
There wont be a lockdown because wearing masks is preventing a lockdown. Texas and Florida are complete shitshows at the moment compared to California. Wearing masks also limits inhaling pollutants during fire season.
LawrenceBird
LawrenceBird
4 years ago
Any “ardent supporter of President Trump” does not deserve any elective office.   “Elder seemed surprised when asked who he supported for president in 2020, saying he always votes Republican”   So much for that libertarian bent, eh?  Can’t find one L worth voting for in nearly 50 years?  And instead of holding Trump accountable for the riot/insurrection at the capital, he plays whataboutism with Hillary.  
That this guy may have a handful of reasonable positions/ideas does not discount that on the whole he is garbage.
LM2022
LM2022
4 years ago
Ah yes, those fiscally responsible conservatives!   So we’ve got a recall that’s going to cost the state of CA over $200 million to run, not to mention the millions that will be spent on advertisement and get out the vote campaigns.  And guess what, 2022 is an election year so even if a nutty libertarian wins with 8% of the vote he won’t get anything accomplished and will be swept out of office in 15 short months.  Republicans and libertarians don’t need to lecture anyone on being fiscally conservative.  
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Reply to  LM2022
Agreed.  But never underestimate them.   Republicans and libertarians can do a lot of damage in 15 months.  Once they are in, you will see how long those 15 “short” months are.
strataland
strataland
4 years ago
Newsom has elicited the support of Elizabeth Warren in his television ad campaign. It appears to be failing miserably and playing directly into the hands of the recall proponents. 
Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple
4 years ago
Reply to  strataland
What’s your evidence of this?  Please provide links, tia.
Jojo
Jojo
4 years ago
Ha!  You know the Dem party regulars are getting worried when they start calling the recall election “unconstitutional”.  Perhaps they should have thought about that some years back?
———
Opinion
Guest Essay
There Is a Problem With California’s Recall. It’s Unconstitutional.
Aug. 11, 2021
By Erwin Chemerinsky and Aaron S. Edlin
Mr. Chemerinsky is the dean of the School of Law at the University of California, Berkeley, and the author of the forthcoming book “Presumed Guilty: How the Supreme Court Empowered the Police and Subverted Civil Rights.” Mr. Edlin is a professor of law and of economics at Berkeley.
Jojo
Jojo
4 years ago
This is a “anybody but Newsom” recall election. 
I don’t think Elders is the best alternate choice but the Republicans here in CA are completely disorganized, so this is what we get.  They had many months to plan for the recall election and decide on a consensus candidate, instead of allowing a free-for-all.  The failure of the Pub party here is why the Dems have a super majority in CA.
yooj
yooj
4 years ago
Elder supported Trump, not the LP candidate, and not a write-in candidate. Alas, Elder is a Republican corrupted by Trump, despite admirable libertarian sensibilities  on policy.  The litmus test for a candidate now is not any policy positions, but whether he or she abided Trump to gain or hold office.  Elder fails this test. Jeff Flake, Justin Amash  and Mitt, for example, pass.  Elder is a bit like Rand Paul, an erstwhile, kind -of libertarian who knew or should of known better but succumbed.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  yooj
I can accept that argument.
But….I have friends who supported Trump……and one in particular whom I greatly respect. We argue about that. He supported Trump because he believes in less government regulation of business, lower taxes, and he hates socialism. Those might have been good reasons, had not Trump been a megalomaniac with delusions of grandeur.
Elder is not a Trump guy the way, say, Kevin McCarthy or Matt Gaetz…or even Rick De Santis is….he is his own man, and he’s bright, articulate, and I don’t think he’s a threat to the rule of law. Just sayin’.
Kick'n
Kick’n
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Just watched him defend his vote for Trump. “I am a registered Republican. I will vote for the standard bearer.” So much for being a Libertarian. People may have their “reasons” for voting Trump but now it should be condemned as supporting the thwarting of the rule of law. There must be better Republican choices.
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
“The Democratic secretary of state moved to keep Mr. Elder off the ballot
because he didn’t properly redact personal information on 300 pages of
personal tax returns he submitted.”
Anti-democracy and voter suppression- by democrats. Just redact it for the petitioner. She would have done it for Newsom, if it applied.
“Face-ism”- Elder has facial recognition, which is why the SOS tried to keep him off the ballot. Elder became the automatic front runner to replace Newsom and he gives impetus to the recall effort itself.
“Expect the unions to launch an all out push for the Governor.”  Elizabeth Warren is meddling in our election, appearing in Democrat attack ads. It would be ironic if it moved more people to vote against Newsom.
IB6
IB6
4 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
Not to mention RACISM! by Democrats since they collude to keep a qualified Black man from the ballot!
Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple
4 years ago
Newsom doesn’t need my vote to stave off this ridiculous frivolity.  And he won’t get my vote, for I haven’t voted since 2003 for Schwarzenegger and never plan to again.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
I like Larry Elder. I’d vote fo him.
I don’t expect him to win, but then I was surprised when California voters carried Prop 13. Most of your readers probably won’t even remember that one. Cali could do far worse than Larry Elder.
Corvinus
Corvinus
4 years ago
Elder is who I’m voting for in September.
Sincerely, 
someone living in California since 1995.
ajc1970
ajc1970
4 years ago
No politician wants to face a yes/no referendum.
People tend to hate the leaders of their own party, just less than they hate the leaders of other parties.
Newsom needs to frame this as “me vs. the front runner on question 2.”
GOP and Newsom haters need to frame this as a yes/no referendum or, “vote against Newsom on 9/14 or you’ll be locked down by 9/15.”
I think he’s in trouble.  Saving grace for him is that there’s no prominent Dem for question 2.
Jojo
Jojo
4 years ago
Reply to  ajc1970
“vote against Newsom on 9/14 or you’ll be locked down by 9/15.”
Hahaha.  That is exactly why Newsom is set to lose.  Everyone knows that he is lying low because of the recall.  If he wasn’t facing this, we would guaranteed be locked down by now.  If he manages to pull through the recall, within 3 weeks we will likely be locked down under his thumb again.
ajc1970
ajc1970
4 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
I think you’re right.
It wouldn’t surprise me if the DNC is coordinating with Inslee and Brown in WA and OR — “don’t lockdown until after the recall or you’ll hose Newsom.”
Bungalow Bill
Bungalow Bill
4 years ago
The GOP is so lost and stands for nothing. It would be nice of more people discovered the libertarian party. 
LawrenceBird
LawrenceBird
4 years ago
Reply to  Bungalow Bill
Elder is *not* a Libertarian and only tosses out there that he is a “small l Libertarian”.    Don’t get fooled.
Kick'n
Kick’n
4 years ago
Reply to  LawrenceBird
Yeah I just watched him on Smirconish defend his vote for Trump. “I am a registered Republican. I will vote for the standard bearer.”
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
4 years ago
Always good to get a fresh face in power.
No matter how much you love your party (Democrat or Republican), if they stay in power too long things stagnate or worse, you get a corrupted 1 party rule like Russia has.
It would be awesome to see Elder win just like it was great to see Arnie get in back in 03.
Kick'n
Kick’n
4 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65

Newsom only has 15 months. Then CA can pick whoever they want. If he were that bad they should impeach. This is just another partisan effort to change the previous outcome.

Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple
4 years ago
Not a snowball’s chance in Perdition that Newsom doesn’t prevail.
Sincerely, a Californian since 1988

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