Citigroup Takes Delivery of 100,000 Tons of Aluminum and 40,000 Tons of Zinc

Citigroup is one of the world’s largest metal speculators. Hello Fed, FDIC, am I the only one who thinks banks should be banks, not hedge funds?

Citi’s Mega Metals Trade Shows Global Markets Turning to Glut

Bloomberg reports Citi’s Mega Metals Trade Shows Global Markets Turning to Glut

Citigroup Inc. has been buying large volumes of physical aluminum and zinc on the London Metal Exchange, in a bold metal-financing trade that’s made it one of the biggest players in the market in recent months.

In the last few months, Citi requested delivery of about 100,000 tons of aluminum and 40,000 tons of zinc — worth over $300 million, according to people familiar with the matter. The purchases are for Citi’s own trading book and are part of a metal financing play, said the people, who asked not to be identified discussing private information.

Citi has struck a rent agreement with at least one warehousing company to store metal in Taiwan’s coastal city of Kaohsiung, and intends to ship metal there from LME warehouses in Korea and Singapore, the people said, although they cautioned that its plans could still change. Citi may ultimately decide to deliver the metal back on to the LME, one of the people said.

Much if not most of these metals are of Russia origin. But that’s OK because the Biden administration placed no bans on Russian aluminum or zinc.

Financing plays were a dominant theme of the LME’s market in the years after the global financial crisis, when banks and traders bought up warehousing companies and engaged in battles to control and profit from a critical mass of inventory in a period known as the “warehouse wars.”

The trade has thrust Citi into the spotlight at a time of upheaval for some of its biggest rivals in metals trading. JPMorgan has pulled back from parts of its metals business after playing a central role in the nickel crisis on the LME last year,

Too Big to Fail

I would not give a rat’s ass what Citi did with its own money. But as long as it is deemed too big to fail, it should not act like a hedge fund.

Banks Should Be Banks, Not Hedge Funds

Citi is now one of the biggest players is metals speculation.

In practice, I doubt this position is big enough to matter, but it’s another example of the willingness of banks to make speculative bets.

Silicon Valley Bank Speculation

Earlier this year, Silicon Valley Bank blew up by making speculative bets on interest rates.

The 2023 bank failures arose from what the banks did with uninsured deposits, not the fact that the deposits were uninsured.

Banks could easily have parked the money back at the Fed collecting generous amounts of free money because the Fed pays interest on reserves.

Instead, the banks made enormous bets that interest rates would not rise rapidly. When rates rose, paper losses soared, and the banks became capital impaired.

Fed Admits Mistake

The Fed even admitted a mistake. For discussion, please see The Fed Admits a Mistake in Collapse of SVB, Seeks More Power Anyway

This borrow-short, lend-long issue applies to all banks, not just the troubled banks that failed.

And the Fed has done virtually nothing to address speculative risk seeking.

Dear FDIC and Fed, We Need a Genuine Safekeeping Bank, Not Band-Aids

On June 18, I commented Dear FDIC and Fed, We Need a Genuine Safekeeping Bank, Not Band-Aids

I offered a 10-pronged solution to what caused the failure of Silicon Valley Bank. Please check it out.

Today, I will add another idea. Break Citigroup in two. Create a safekeeping bank and a hedge fund.

Let the hedge fund do whatever the hell it wants as long as there is no chance of any bailout ever. Let the bank be a bank.

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Stuki Moi
Stuki Moi
7 months ago

“Let the hedge fund do whatever the hell it wants as long as there is no chance of any bailout ever. Let the bank be a bank.”

Absent bailouts, there are no hedge funds. Just a bunch of clueless dilettantes spending lots of money on admin, while attempting to pick random numbers. While being stupid enough to not even recognise something that obvious.

The one and only means any of them have of making money, is Fed transfers. The Fed robbing productive people dry, in order to keep their favored sub-mediocre dependents flush. Take the forced transfers away, and the idiots would have to get a real job, instead of playing office with other people’s stolen money.

Hedge fund employees, being stupid enough to not even recognise something so trivial, may not be the most productive tools in the shed. But if they, like those currently robbed to feed them, had to do something useful in order to make a living, at least some of them would likely manage to do something at least a little bit valuable. Instead of simply living off of theft, the way they ALL, 100%, are now.

RS
RS
7 months ago

Mish, I am disappointed with your comment on Citi buying aluminum. Are you sure you see the whole picture? Quite possibly, Citi bought the physical stuff and sold forward on LME which would be a pure financial transaction without betting on the price of aluminum. The spot price is $2181/mt and one-year forward is 2316/mt. Citi is just earning 6.1% per annum with no commodity price risk. As long as their cost of storage is less than 0.7% they are doing better than investing in US Treasuries at 5.3%. Pure financing completely within the scope of the banking business.

coolkevs
coolkevs
7 months ago

Let’s remember Citi has never recovered from the Great Financial Crisis – if reverse split never happened, it would be trading at $4.10/sh. In fact, it’s below those levels – I remember it being $5.
Keep Dancing ex-Citi CEO!

KidHorn
KidHorn
7 months ago
Reply to  coolkevs

I bought a bunch of shares for $1. Sold them a few days later for $2 and something.

KidHorn
KidHorn
7 months ago

100,000 tons of aluminum costs about $2.2 billion dollars. 40,000 tons of zinc is about a billion. Unless the purchase is heavily leveraged or was fronted by an entity that wishes to remain anonymous, I don’t believe it. Where did they get the money?

Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
7 months ago
Reply to  KidHorn

They had their uncle print it up for them.

PapaDave
PapaDave
7 months ago

The general narrative on most metal commodities is that supply will not satisfy demand going forward (copper, nickel, lithium, cobalt etc). But we are not there yet.

The problem is timing. If you are a month early, you are a genius. If you are a year early you are a fool. Most investors have been looking pretty foolish over the last couple of years.

I see Exxon is taking out Pioneer at roughly 6x EV/EBITDA. This is to be able to tap into the 10 years of reserves that Pioneer has in the Permian. This may help revalue some of the smaller players that currently trade at 2-4x EV/EBITDA with similar reserve life. My preference remains many of the Canadian oils. For comparison MEG energy also currently trades at 6x but has reserve life of 50 years.

Micheal Engel
7 months ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Cut position after 3%/4% losses, 6%/7% max, thereafter u are at the mercy of the market.

Micheal Engel
7 months ago

US gov debt = 34T. Nominal GDP = 27T. Debt/GDP = 1.25.
The only way to reduce debt payments is recession. During recessions interest
rates are low, close to zero.
July 2023 high is the high, a major LT lower high. SPX LT trend is down. King DX
will rise, commodities will slump. Multi geopolitical chaos.
Citi traders bet on high inflation and higher Dow. They will win if the Dow breach
July 2023 high. They will lose if the first correction will test 2020 low, before 2009
low.

Neal
Neal
7 months ago

Stockpiling physical metal makes sense if you see global turmoil or a major military conflict disrupting supplies or boosting demand for military stuff. Or if you see inflation making holding currency a bad bet.
But Taiwan? Seems like a risk if the turmoil involves China and a straight out loss if it is a war across the Taiwan Straits.
And I can’t see how a piddling fee hundred million invested in metal can endanger a big bank. Unlike multi billion bets on derivatives and the other crap traders get up to .

Doug78
Doug78
7 months ago
Reply to  Neal

Taiwan may not be its final destination but only a temporary place to keep it while you make other arrangements.

Stu
Stu
7 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

Doug, do you by chance, know if there a precedent for Banks to buy physical metals and store them? I was doing some quick research (on the web) and couldn’t quickly come up with this sort of thing occurring. I do find it very odd, and especially at this time, with our Country’s financial situation in such disarray.
Appreciate anything you may be aware of.

Doug78
Doug78
7 months ago
Reply to  Stu

Offhand I would say no and having been in the business I would have known. However if a very big bank wanted to set up a rival metals exchange to the LME then it would make sense because not having been implicated in the scandal, their reputation is intact and in finance reputation is all.

Stu
Stu
7 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

I had a feeling that you might say that, based upon what I was able to (not) find myself. I knew from prior post, that you are familiar with this sort of thing. Thank You for providing your feedback, as it was much appreciated!

Another thing to track for irregularities as time passes. I am partially convinced that there is a lot more to this transaction behind the scenes, but not quite sure what it is or if it it anything at all.

Scooot
Scooot
7 months ago
Reply to  Stu

I suspect they have a big order from someone and they’re not buying for themselves.

Doug78
Doug78
7 months ago

A financial institution taking physical delivery is rare because there are big costs associated with storing the stuff. Recently there has been a big scandal involving the London Metal Exchange where the nickel in the warehouses used to guarantee the contracts were in really not bags of nickel but bags of rocks. It is possible that LME’s problem is more widespread than originally thought and that when one buys a commodity contract the underlying might be a bag of rocks too.
Alternately one might say that they foresee a time not too far away where trading commodity futures contracts will be very difficult because of events to come. Having a physical bird in the hand will be worth two financial contract birds in the bush.

Stu
Stu
7 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

A Bag of Rocks is what many Countries probably have stored as Gold, Silver, Copper Etc. Do you Trust China has everything they say they have? Can they/will they Prove It? Will the EU/U.S./UK Prove It?

I don’t trust and neither should anyone else, trust BC, as they have proven time and time again, that they have no idea what’s out there for Coins or even Value. The theft is Rampant for something so secure, and the value jumps up and down all the time. That sounds and looks a lot like a Ponzi Scheme setup to me…

Micheal Engel
7 months ago

Citi traders bet on higher inflation, but they might get deflated.

Czarchasm Reigns
Czarchasm Reigns
7 months ago

And if Citigroup had “gone for the gold”…
would that have been a good thing…
bad thing…
or same thing?

Greggg
Greggg
7 months ago

The current legal authority for FHCs to engage in physical commodities activities is derived from several provisions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999 (GLB Act),[6] which amended the U.S. Bank Holding Company Act of 1956 (BHC Act) to expand the permissible business activities of bank holding companies. Thank you CONgress and Bill Clinton. Banks can use this drive up the cost of raw materials to screw the consumer. What a novel idea.

CasualObserver
CasualObserver
7 months ago
Reply to  Greggg

This is also why speculation in derivatives of all commodities started. It has caused rampant inflation which the Fed has been trying to paper over for 2 decades. If we went back to the regulatory environment after the great depression and before the 1990s, we would get a more stable economy and prosperity. The economy now is mostly unproductive and about chasing after the next asset bubble.

Call_Me_Al
Call_Me_Al
7 months ago

Someone going to start minting their own coinage?

Stu
Stu
7 months ago
Reply to  Call_Me_Al

Maybe we will become the Worlds Bitcoin Bank? All kidding aside, I get nervous when I see Banks and Raw Materials combine, and think nefarious thoughts…

With the tightly bound connection of our Bank$ and Our Government, who knows what Biden Inc. may be told What To Do! It appears, at least from recent Reports, that as long as the Biden Family gets there take, they don’t care what happens to the rest of us.

Look who is charge of Our Countries Finances. Does anyone on Earth, believe Powell & Yellen should be our Interest Rates Guru’s? I don’t have even a little hope, that these clowns know what they are Being Told What To Do, is even close to What They Should Be Doing. In fact I wouldn’t ask, and certainly would Never Pay, for either of these two idiots, to even balance my checkbook, let along balance Our Countries Check Book!!! JS…

Zardoz
Zardoz
7 months ago

Is this what corporate peppers look like?

Stu
Stu
7 months ago

– Citigroup Inc. has been buying large volumes of physical aluminum and zinc

Not a big deal, as many in Finance do so. What I do find odd however, is the Physical aspect? Why is a bank, who plays in Cash/Money, buy Physical and not Paper Metals?

– In the last few months, Citi requested delivery of about 100,000 tons of aluminum and 40,000 tons of zinc.

Now it really starts to get interesting. That’s a lot of Tonnage of Metal, and sure weighs a lot more than paper, and takes up lots more space.

– Citi has struck a rent agreement with at least one warehousing company to store metal in Taiwan’s coastal city of Kaohsiung, and intends to ship metal there from LME warehouses in Korea and Singapore.

So a U.S. Bank, is taking Delivery of Tons of Metal, and storing in Taiwan? Inst China a concern to Citi and its Customers? How long do you keep your Cash/Money in a bank that is hedging metals? Oh yeah, and storing your Banks Money/Cash in Taiwan!! No Worries…

Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
7 months ago
Reply to  Stu

It’s probably for the revolutionary new lightweight zinc-aluminum battery.

THE BULL
THE BULL
7 months ago
Reply to  Stu

citi is ran like the scummiest bank out there… i hope they get ran on.. they r crappy people

Sunriver
Sunriver
7 months ago

I make bad investments, I go bankrupt.

Citi makes bad investments, they get a ‘That’s a good boy’, bailout.

All in the name of keeping this expodentially increasing bankruptrd Fiat currency experiment going.

The dirty secret of endgame Fiat currency.

Maximus Minimus
Maximus Minimus
7 months ago

Citigroup has the right to be a hedge fund, or whatever else it chooses. They paid for the removal of Glass-Steagall. No corruption there.

KGB
KGB
7 months ago

Physical anything is a better investment than US Treasury Bonds that have the same intrinsic value as a Bitcoin with less credibility and less inflation depreciation.

Jon
Jon
7 months ago

Use of your God-given rights to free speech cannot be considered corruption. God just gave Citi a little more speech than he gave the rest of us. Nothing can be done.

Dennis
Dennis
7 months ago

Except when they screw up and lose billions, John Q. Public bails them out.

JamesW
JamesW
7 months ago

I collect aluminum cans, does that count, hell I may even start melting down myself….

Doug78
Doug78
7 months ago
Reply to  JamesW

There is an interesting arbitrage on aluminum cans if you live in New York City. In Michigan you can get a higher price for the cans so rent a truck, fill it with cans and then drive to Michigan to sell them. It’s a sure thing. My friend Kramer told me about it.

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
7 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

You need to check the legality on doing that because someone was doing that in Arizona and taking it to California and they are being charged.

link to cbsnews.com

JamesW
JamesW
7 months ago
Reply to  TexasTim65

Get them from No Deposit states, you will do even better…

Doug78
Doug78
7 months ago
Reply to  TexasTim65

Never watched Seinfeld??

Don jones
Don jones
7 months ago

Citi is a terrible Bank anyway. I will no longer do business with them.

Mises R Us
Mises R Us
7 months ago
Reply to  Don jones

All the TBTF banks do the same thing. Best bet is to find a smaller regional bank or CU that doesn’t engage in too much nonsense (easier said than done and difficult to find).

THE BULL
THE BULL
7 months ago
Reply to  Don jones

im praying for citi and cap1 complete collapse they r evil vermin banks

Six000MileYear
Six000MileYear
7 months ago

Aluminum and zinc are used in military equipment such as airplanes, boats, and guns.

ImNotStiller
ImNotStiller
7 months ago

Some russian oligarch is doing the laundry.

Doug78
Doug78
7 months ago

If they are taking delivery of the physical, it sounds like stockpiling to me.

joedidee
joedidee
7 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

glass-steagul – simple 18 pages with teeth
today – total BS
bring back glass-steagul

TT
TT
7 months ago
Reply to  joedidee

FDR was correct with glass steagall. and clinton and Rs took it apart. guess who pays. would be wonderful to be a hedge fund with discount window access. almost impossible to fail. but Bear and Lehman and ML…….and C gave it the college try. i grew up with the lunatics who run those places now. they know it’s a joke. and the joke is on small time traders like me, and the general public of course.

Scooot
Scooot
7 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

On behalf of who I wonder.

John CB
John CB
7 months ago

Heck, I don’t remember unit banking as so awful. Or limits on credit card interest rates.

Jeff
Jeff
7 months ago
Reply to  John CB

Yup this whole system is out of wack.
Great writeup Mish… got something for you to talk about Job situation – DailyJobCuts
No one wants to talk about it.. why?

Jeff
Jeff
7 months ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

Thanks, fyi DailyJobCuts . com . It fits right in with whats going on with the economic mess.
Thanks for all you do, longtime reader

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