Corbyn’s Massive Defeat is Big Wakeup Call for Democrats

Proposed Wakeup Phone Call

“Hello Elizabeth. This is Jeremy, Jeremy Corbyn. About your radical plan to save America. I’ve been doing some reflecting. Guess what?”

Jeremy Corbyn Went Down in Flames

Jeremy Corbyn went down in flames yesterday in the biggest Labour defeat in 35 years. [Correction: since 1935].

The above proposed phone call will never happen because Corbyn Refuses to Admit He is the Reason for Labour’s Massive Defeat.

Corbyn will stand down as party leader in January. But he wants time to reflect on what happened.

Corbyn Already Sounds Like Hillary

Corbyn blamed Brexit. He blamed the media. He blamed disgusting politicians.

On the latter, he is of course correct. He just forgot to look in the mirror while making that statement.

He just forgot one thing. He forgot to blame Russia.

He will have plenty of time to reflect on things, then blame Russia.

Media vs Polls

The polls mostly got this correct. The media kept saying “too close to call”.

Flashback November 18: Fear of Corbyn Outweighs Fear of Brexit

My Comment: “This election is no longer primarily about Brexit, it’s primarily about Corbyn.

Perhaps this is easier to see from afar. Perhaps it is simple willingness to dive into the polls. Either way, Corbyn’s unpopularity was of epic proportion, poll after poll after poll.

Why is it shocking news that people, when they finally got into the voting booth, voted against someone they could not stand?

Time for Reflection

Corbyn says “it’s time to reflect.”

Please, let’s do.

Since it’s time to reflect, please reflect on the above question in reference to Hillary and why she lost.

Let’s also reflect on Corbyn’s Radical Manifesto.

Labour’s Radical Plan Highlights

  1. Increase government spending by a massive £82.9bn a year, about 4pc of GDP, all paid for by rising taxes
  2. A £400bn “national transformation fund”, which would “add to the government’s debt” but isn’t in the headline figures.
  3. Nationalisation of rail, water, energy, bus, mail, and broadband companies
  4. Seizure of 10 percent of the shares in every big UK company and handing the shares to workers
  5. Raise the corporate tax rate to 26% from 19%
  6. An £11bn windfall tax on the oil and gas sector
  7. Free broadband internet for everyone
  8. Free shelter for the homeless
  9. Super-rich tax rate
  10. Tax on second homes
  11. Raise £8bn via a Financial Transactions Tax
  12. Higher inheritance tax
  13. Force landlords to sell homes to tenants at a “fair” price as determined by Labour

Democrats Take Note

I wrote about Corbyn’s radical manifesto on November 23 with this message: Jeremy Corbyn Goes for Broke With Last Desperate Act, US Democrats Take Note.

My Lead-In Comment “Labour’s manifesto is a final act of desperation. US democrats, especially Elizabeth Warren, should take note.

Free Everything!

In the US Democratic debates, the candidates are still trying to outdo each other with free this, free that.

Warren is at the top of the list. Like Corbyn, she wants to nationalize everything possible and break up the rest. She wants free healthcare, free education, free shelter.

She also wants a wealth tax.

In the UK, voters did not believe Corbyn’s plan was remotely possible.

Ironically, Corbyn decided his 2017 plan was not radical enough. So he made it even more radical.

Labour Hijacked

The Washington Examiner explains How Jeremy Corbyn Hijacked the Labour Party

Corbyn was the underdog in the Labour party’s 2015 leadership race. He was a long-serving radical backbench MP known for his anti-Western foreign policy stances, competing against multiple well-qualified moderate Labour candidates. He maximized a change to voting rules and signed up thousands of far-left grassroots activists who would turn the formerly centrist Labour party of Tony Blair and Gordon Brown into an effective vehicle for his socialist ideals. He received a landslide of 59.5 percent of first preference votes. Building on his success, he created a far-left political movement named Momentum, which has been described as the ‘party within the party.’

News For You

Corbyn and Warren are two peas in the same radical-left plan.

Warren, Kamala Harris, Bernie Sanders, and AOC now attempt the same thing in the US.

If they succeed, they may well deliver the same result.

I wrote about this on December 5.

How to Re-Elect Trump in One Easy Lesson

Please consider How to Re-Elect Trump in One Easy Lesson

Radical progressives are up in arms. Ironically, if Trump wins again, they will be the reason.”

Forget the Base

Why appeal to the radicals? Where are they going? I ask the same questions of Republicans and Democrats alike.

If given a choice between Biden or Bloomberg vs Trump, Progressives will vote for Biden or Bloomberg.

Q: Why?

A: Under no circumstances will they vote for Trump.

So how is Bloomberg a liability?

What About Independents?

Independents might easily vote for Biden or Bloomberg. In contrast, they might not easily vote for Kamala Harris or Elizabeth Warren.

In fact, Harris and Warren, darlings of the Progressives, might be the only people that Trump could beat.

These kinds of honest assessments get me in hot water.

Unqualified

Such analysis led me to labeling Kamala Harris as unqualified. My reason, which I explained, was that I did not believe she could win the election.

I immediately came under attack by the radical progressives on Twitter for days after I posted such a Tweet.

I am in another TweetStorm right now over why Corbyn lost.

Hint: Don’t try to speak rationally to radical leftists. They are hopelessly delusional.

Divided Political Parties

In the UK, the left splintered over Brexit. On top of it, Labour advanced a Marxist left wing program of “free stuff” just as Sanders and Warren do here.

Labour’s plan was so radical that not even its base believed the manifesto was possible.

In both the US and UK voting systems, it is suicidal not to unite. Yet, it is damn hard to unite around radical views or behind radical persons.

As much as voters dislike Trump, they disliked Hillary more.

Warren is probably not as disliked personally as Hillary, but her plan is as radical Marxist as Corbyn’s.

Warren may be the only candidate that Trump can beat, just as Hillary was the only person Trump could beat four years ago. Yet Warren is the darling of all the progressives hell bent on hijacking the party platform to the most radical agenda possible.

The winning path is to pick a candidate the moderates and independents will back. The core and the radicals are going nowhere.

A Phone Call That Won’t Happen

“Hello Elizabeth. This is Jeremy, Jeremy Corbyn. About your radical plan to save America. I’ve been doing some reflecting. Guess what?”

That phone call will never happen. Nor will Hillary nor Corbyn ever look in the mirror and blame themselves.

Mike “Mish” Shedlock

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Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
6 years ago

I thought you were smarter than this Mish. Calling people an -ist or -ism based on what they say is just so beneath you and nearly everyone here. Can you not see politics for what it is? Candidates are taught from the high school election to cater to their electorate. I dont care who the candidate is but I can assure you they dont believe in anything but catering to the voters that get them to then general election. For God sake Trump won with evangelicals in some primaries. Candidates beliefs will change depending on which way the wind blows each day.

Ken Kam
Ken Kam
6 years ago

@Casual… You nicely take the higher moral ground, accusing politicians of catering to their electorate, without seeing the irony. Isn’t that exactly what they should do in a democracy? If we agree on that point, then the blame is really on the electorate who vote for these politicians, and that includes you. Instead of throwing stones from the outside, if you really feel strongly about it, you should jump into the ring and run for office or campaign to change the minds of voters to what you think they should do. Let’s see what sort of politician you will become, and how long it takes you to change your colors. Ultimately, in a democracy, society gets the rulers it deserves. Or as HL Mencken put it more forcefully “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.”

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
6 years ago
Reply to  Ken Kam

Agree with this. I was just objecting to the labeling. I really believe human beings are too complex to be painted with labels like “marxist”, “socialist” or “capitalist”. I agree with you regarding democracy but it is debatable whether we have a democracy even in so called democratic countries.

Scooot
Scooot
6 years ago

Article on BBC news saying a similar thing today.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50785442

Jackula
Jackula
6 years ago

Medicare for all combined with open borders…that dog don’t hunt and all of us deplorables know this.

Pater_Tenebrarum
Pater_Tenebrarum
6 years ago

Regardless of what the main reason for Corbyn’s defeat was, his economic program would have been disastrous. Almost all of what he proposed has already been tried in the UK (minus the coerced syndicalism and the theft of privately owned buildings) and by the late 70s not even the garbage was picked up anymore.

Mish
Mish
6 years ago

@JayTe I believe you cannot read.

I accurately stated, well in advance the election changed from a referendum on Brexit to a referendum on Corbyn.

The post election polls show that analysis was 100% spot on.

That poll reflects two things: His nutcase policies in general and his nutcase policy on Brexit.

Corbyn is responsible for both. And both mattered. I was 100% bang on: THis was a referendum on Corbyn.

Yes, he lost the “red wall” but he could not even improve in London which was pro-remain. He lost a lot of pro-remain seats.

Why? He is a radical marxist nucase.

That’s why.

Mish
Mish
6 years ago

JayTe
JayTe
6 years ago

Mike, Although your criticism about Corbyn’s policies is relevant, as an American who has lived and travelled widely across the UK, your assessment of why he lost the elections is way off. The key aspect as to why Corbyn lost has to do primarily with Brexit and the utter lack of respect that the political class (especially those based in London) show towards people he live in the more rural parts of England. Not very dissimilar to what happened to Hilary Clinton and her view of people living in deep America (i.e. the deplorables). Note that many of these hard working, salt of the earth people generally tend to vote Labour because they come from working class backgrounds. And many of them voted Labour (and Corbyn) despite his policies not being terribly different from what they were during the previous election which is why he did so well. What actually transpired is despite 70% of people who identify themselves as Labour, voting for Brexit, about 58% of the Labour members of Parliament supported Remain. Corbyn was a Brexit supporter but was pushed during the last Labour conference to switch allegiance to Remain by the Labour members of parliament because they were hell bent on stopping Brexit. As such, all the support that Corbyn had from Labour supporters in the north evaporated because he went from being a Labour man of principle to just another Westminster politician. If there is one thing that I know from living here for more than 15 years, once people from the north of England make a decision (such as deciding to leave the EU), they were never ever going to be bullied into changing their view by the media, the Westminster Establishment or anyone else. So they just ALL switched their vote to Labour because Johnson realised that the key to winning the election was to deliver Brexit and respect the choice of the population.

RonJ
RonJ
6 years ago

“Tax on second homes”

Bernie Sanders has three.

crazyworld
crazyworld
6 years ago

Congratulations Mish, your predictions and analysis about Corbyn, Johnson and the Brexit events have been right from the start.

Bam_Man
Bam_Man
6 years ago

Gotta hand it to Gaddaffi. With that uniform and that whole “look”, he defined how to go “Full Banana Republic”.

Webej
Webej
6 years ago
Reply to  Bam_Man

Banana republic is like Latin American states controlled by tin pot dictators who enabled the interests of a few American corporations, like banana plantations in Honduras. Gadafi was brought about by completely different dynamics.

Libya was the most prosperous state in Africa before Western human rights missionary zeal bombed the place back into the stone age. Universal education and health care, and the best standard of living, and, compared to what happened afterwards, stable institutions, human rights, and prosperity.

America is not that different from a banana republic, except that it is the boss of the other banana republics. Americans are delusional in thinking they have any democratic control, or “own” the place in any meaningful way … it’s all about corporate elites in the shadows.

Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
6 years ago
Reply to  Bam_Man

You would have liked the equally decorative puppet king Idris, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idris_of_Libya.

Someone’s got to do it, and it wasn’t the nicest guy around…it never is.

marc0
marc0
6 years ago

Mish, Corbyn would have done well had he not switched his position on brexit and a second referrendum. By doing so he lost the support of crucial working class voters.

Blurtman
Blurtman
6 years ago

Don’t attempt to overturn the will of the Deplorables. Except to bail out the criminal banks, that is.

Runner Dan
Runner Dan
6 years ago
Reply to  Blurtman

The mood of the country would be more mellow if the prices of housing, healthcare, and higher education were based on a free market (i.e., affordable).

Blurtman
Blurtman
6 years ago
Reply to  Runner Dan

It’s below the Fed’s 2%target rate, you see.

AndrewUK
AndrewUK
6 years ago

Labour made two huge mistakes.
First their Brexit policy was ridiculous. Few weeks ago Thornbury was on Question Time and she sat there waffling that she would go and negotiate a new deal, bring it back and campaign against it ! As Iain Dale pointed out ‘Do you have any idea how ridiculous that policy is??’ The audience laughed. And it got worse: some one pointed out that if they put their deal to a Referendum no one on the front bench would campaign for it. It was pathetic.
The second was Corbyn himself. As the Telegraph pointed out about a month ago, dislike of Corbyn on the doorstep has solidified into visceral hatred. I have to say that it is shaming that such a man as this could become the leader of a major political party. Personally I believe he is anti-semitic. You only have to watch his demeanour and body language when asked about this to see there is a problem.

As to the Democrats they are busy digging their own grave with all this Impeachment crap. There is no case and never has been, but if it goes to the Senate and a trial there is a chance that the President will very effectively turn the tables. Biden is corrupt and there are questions around what the Cokehead was doing and what warranted a million dollars a year when if he had sat on the board of Exxon for example he would been lucky to get a tenth of that. The IG Report was shocking and I am sure there will be criminal trials from Durham. And all roads lead back to the DNC, Hillary and the Obama White House. If I was President Trump I would open a few windows and let daylight in because the American people will be shocked, dismayed and furious at what would be revealed. I hope he is reelected because the Democrats deserve everything they will get and more besides.

SpeedyGeezer
SpeedyGeezer
6 years ago
Reply to  AndrewUK

Hunter Biden’s influence peddling is not defensible. Exxon is a public company. The Board has a crucial governance role. Burisma is an oligarch controlled private company. The Board has no meaningful role. Hunter Biden was hired and paid for influence. Nothing else to offer. I support and respect Joe Biden for sticking up for his son. I would do the same thing. The problem is that Hunter will, eventually, disqualify Joe as a candidate. Bloomberg sees this plainly. The moderate lane is going to empty out for him. If he can win the nomination (most likely a brokered convention) without alienating the Bernie/Warren wing, he has a fair chance to beat a very unpopular Trump even if the economy keeps chugging along. Clinton sees the same thing.

stillCJ
stillCJ
6 years ago

Crazy people are incapable of realizing that they are nuts. TDS sufferers have that problem.

Latkes
Latkes
6 years ago

By today’s definitions, the Founding Fathers were far right or even worse.

stillCJ
stillCJ
6 years ago
Reply to  Latkes

Excuse me: “even worse”?

Latkes
Latkes
6 years ago
Reply to  stillCJ

Some moron students were campaigning for the removal of a Jefferson statue because of slavery.

Buttigieg expressed similar opinions.

JoeDokes
JoeDokes
6 years ago
Reply to  Latkes

Well, owning slaves and refusing to let women have the right to vote aren’t exactly liberal policies.

Latkes
Latkes
6 years ago
Reply to  JoeDokes

Are you one of the people who would like to topple statues of the Founding Fathers?

JoeDokes
JoeDokes
6 years ago
Reply to  Latkes

Try to stay on topic. You were complaining that some of the Founding Fathers were “far right or worse”. I was saying that is true. Many were not only slave owners, but advocates of slavery. These were despicable human beings unworthy of praise. However, I don’t support statue removal, but I feel it is fair to put up a plaque exploring the politics of a statue.

Latkes
Latkes
6 years ago
Reply to  JoeDokes

So you think that the Founding Fathers were were despicable human beings. OK.

Mish
Mish
6 years ago

Anyone who accuses me of “far right crap” does not know who I am or what I stand for.

I am extremely anti-war. It is none of my business if two males want to get married. etc.

Right-Wing? Hardly.

But it’s time to face the facts: Corbyn and Warren are extreme left wing Marxists

lamlawindy
lamlawindy
6 years ago
Reply to  Mish

GruesomeHarvest stole the words right out from under me. The “right” in America was indeed anti-war. Rep. Charles August Lindbergh (father of the famed aviator) staunchly opposed US involvement in WWI. Sen. Robert Taft was a tireless foe of US assistance to European powers during WWII prior to Germany’s war declaration against the US. Only in relatively modern times have “riggt-wing” denoted pro-war politicians.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
6 years ago
Reply to  Mish

I dont know about Corbyn but Warren grew up a Republican. She is playing to the electorate. Whomever wins the nomination will move the center about 2 nanoseconds after they secure the nomination. Independents will decide the election regardless of who the candidates are.

Bastiat
Bastiat
6 years ago

The situation is indeed very similar to the US. 43% said they didn’t vote Labour because of the leadership according to an Opinium poll. Yet instead of rationally analysing why they lost, the radicals have already started blaming the “racist ignorant working class” for “voting against their own interest”. On both sides of the Atlantic, it’s always someone else’s fault and because voters are not “pure” enough unlike them. These radicals have zero capacity for self-criticism and are a political losing machine.

Mish
Mish
6 years ago

“Mish, I am going to do something I have never done before, skip your post based upon your headline and comment without reading the far right crap.

It is beneath you to compare the situation in Brexit UK to what is happening in the USA under Trump, the fat assed orange spy installed by Putin. I am ashamed and embarrassed for you.”

It is beyond stupid to comment on an article without reading it. Moreover, I am not “far right” and I don’t like Trump.

I am a free market Libertarian.

That aside, if you bothered to read and not make a fool of yourself, Corbyn and Warren have amazingly similar ideas.

Mish

Anda
Anda
6 years ago
Reply to  Mish

Dems and tories also in 2011 (and on) before which Libya was at least still a country. Labour and Rep for Iraq. Just saying.

Herkie
Herkie
6 years ago

Mish, I am going to do something I have never done before, skip your post based upon your headline and comment without reading the far right crap.

It is beneath you to compare the situation in Brexit UK to what is happening in the USA under Trump, the fat assed orange spy installed by Putin. I am ashamed and embarrassed for you.

How you could be so right about British politics and yet so wrong about American politics is just unexplainable.

Even Nancy Pelosi does not expect Trump to be removed from office via impeachment, but she and ALL other democrats must do the right thing and try. Trump is a criminal that has abused the office and deserves nothing less than removal, the GOP has caved to his amoral bribery and failure, he who has tripled the deficits of Obama when he left office, the USA is doomed as it is because of wealth ineqaulity. The democrats are honest enough to make that part of their policy, the GOP is in total denial. The GOP thinks they will get away with their crimes, if the British vote proved anything to you it should not be that conservatives win but that the people win.

And the PEOPLE won in the UK last night. Not the conservatives, not Boris Johnson, not politics as usual or the Brussels bureaucracy or the mandarins of Frankfurt.

The US is bigger, more powerful, more diverse, and Trump is a proven criminal. It will come to a head in the first weeks of primary voting, some red states will vote overwhelmingly for the fat assed Nazi certainly, but the vote this time will not be 60 million GOP to 63 million democrats. It will be more like 58 million GOP to 74 million democrats. Just as BoJo walked away with a landslide because the people spoke. Americans were shocked at Trump’s win with russian help. They are not going to let that happen again.

Freebees2me
Freebees2me
6 years ago
Reply to  Herkie

Thanks for spending the time to send your fact-less post…

In 2016, the PEOPLE won as well….

P.S. – it’s not hard to eat crow if you arrange the feathers properly……..

if you thought 2016 was fun, wait until 2020…

Indiguy
Indiguy
6 years ago
Reply to  Herkie

Your statement is at variance with the known facts

RonJ
RonJ
6 years ago
Reply to  Herkie

“Americans were shocked at Trump’s win with russian help. They are not going to let that happen again.”

Trump didn’t win with Russian help. Trump won with Hillary’s help.

ottertail
ottertail
6 years ago
Reply to  Herkie

I’m glad you’re the opposition, Herkie. I’m glad you’re not on our side. Thank God. You’re batshit crazy.

Count Rumford
Count Rumford
6 years ago

Mish, I’m a long time reader first time poster. Voted Democratic for prez every time since I was 18. Now 70 and voting GREEN this time around. You’ll say how ya gonna pay for it. I say they haven’t impeached anybody and I believe they would look past blow jobs and phone calls and maybe pay attention to us, as in you and I. Call me crazy and foolish. I am totally disaffected and will give money and have a lawn sign out. Go Green. I have suppressed my inner libertarian. Regards

Mish
Mish
6 years ago

Reflections on Moot questions:

“But Mish! Who in their right mind wants President Biden or President Bloomberg?”

The question is moot or badly phrased or something.

1: If you are a democrat and the choice is Bloomberg or Trump, whom do you vote for?

2: If you are an independent, or a businessman, and yes there are Democrat businessmen, and the choice is Warren or Bloomberg, whom do you vote for?

It’s not about wanting Bloomberg, It’s about not being able to vote for Warren under any circumstances.

If it is Trump vs Warren, Independents and even some Democrats will vote Trump.

If it is Trump vs Bloomberg – 100% of the democrats will vote Bloomberg even if they cannot stand him. And there will be some independents and perhaps even some republicans who would vote for Bloomberg simply because they hate Trump (but just not enough to vote for Warren).

SpeedyGeezer
SpeedyGeezer
6 years ago
Reply to  Mish

Primary voters tend to be the most active (and extreme) members of the party. Given this there is room for only one moderate D to collect significant delegates, while Warren and Sanders split the balance. It looks like at least five or six candidates will make it to Super Tuesday. Good chance that the delegates will be spread out across those five with no clear leader. The DNC power brokers will need to figure out how to anoint a somewhat likable centrist without alienating the Bernie/Warren enthusiasts. Keep the left and grab a piece of the center. That is their path to victory. Looks easy, but they screwed it up in 2016.

Mish
Mish
6 years ago

The Notion that there is an 80% chance Trump will be removed from office is ridiculous.

Hell even the House Democrats are splintering

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
6 years ago
Reply to  Mish

You said the same about even getting to impeachment 6 months ago and you were wrong there. The notion may be wrong now but not come first quarter of 2020. I have my own sources.

SpeedyGeezer
SpeedyGeezer
6 years ago

There has always been a “smoking gun” risk with Trump. If Trump is not removed in the Senate trial, it would take something devastating and undeniable for Congress to restart the process. By Q2, we will be so close to the election that the crimes and misdemeanors would need to be exceptionally high to usurp the November ballot box.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
6 years ago
Reply to  SpeedyGeezer

We must remember he started the Ukraine conversation the day after the Mueller probe ended. The Supreme court could rule against him on his personal finances being revealed. We live in interesting times. I predict there will be something that gets revealed that crosses the line for most Americans. But that may not lead the Republican party to remove him from office. Right now there are 8 Republican senators that will cross the line. Getting to 2/3 isnt unreasonable should more information come forth.

SpeedyGeezer
SpeedyGeezer
6 years ago

I suspect that Trump’s financials will show that he is a liar about his net worth and about charitable giving. Both could be miles away from what he has said. He is fighting it to avoid embarrassment. The IRS has been all over his taxes so I doubt that tax evasion is a big risk. I agree that there are plenty of Republican Senators that would break with him if they had enough “air cover”, but I do not think this is likely. Trump’s support is very strong in most states and few R Senators are likely to break ranks. Best bet is few, if any, defectors in the Senate and not more than a couple in the House. Most Americans already dislike Trump (he polls in the low 40’s). But the 40% comprises a majority of most states and those voters like what he is doing.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
6 years ago
Reply to  SpeedyGeezer

More evidence linking Ukraine/Biden to 2016 election and Russia is coming. Putin is the mastermind behind it all. Trump taxes are least of his concerns. The loans from Russian oligarchs to Trump family and Manafort started as Manafort moved into Trump tower. There are more investigations coming into a of this that will extend into spring 2020. GOP may be owned by Putin. High crimes and misdemeanors are coming.

SpeedyGeezer
SpeedyGeezer
6 years ago

Ongoing investigations seem to be a certainty. The price of losing the House!! I have no idea what might be uncovered. As November 2020 gets closer the hurdle for removal by Congress will get higher and higher. The current impeachment/removal seems destined for failure unless some new info is revealed. A failed removal effort will raise the hurdle as well as it looks partisan and political. I will be surprised if Trump is removed, but the tail risk is admittedly pretty fat with him.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
6 years ago
Reply to  SpeedyGeezer

Yup it is unpredictable. I say 50/50 but my sources tell me something big is coming and what we are seeing is a.setup to take down the Republican party
They say the risk is worth the reward as Trump stands to win in 2020 provided the economy holds up. My sources say its 80/20 Trump gets removed from office or resigns by April 2020. The Dems are certainly playing the political angle but Trump isnt helping himself by even talking to other countries about interference. My source didnt reveal it but my hunch is Russia has already colluded with Trump on 2020 since it worked out in their favor in 2016. It has always been my opinion that Putin is pulling the strings and my sources agree with this. For the record these are sources that voted Republican most of their life and come from a national security background. I predict something breaks badly against Trump on December 26th or after.

SpeedyGeezer
SpeedyGeezer
6 years ago

I will not fall out of my chair if it happens, but I (along with many others) will lose a lot of money!!

leicestersq
leicestersq
6 years ago

Mish,

I think that you have this wrong. Whilst Jeremy Corbyn is a bit left, I don’t think that it was that which did for him. It really was Brexit.

At the previous election, he had pledged to carry out Brexit. When it came down to it, he didn’t. As a result, very few people trusted him this time around. He was particularly hammered in the north where working people who would have voted for him and his other policies remembered his Brexit pledge and voted Tory. They were right too, cos it doesn’t matter what you stand for, how can anyone vote for you if you don’t do everything in your power to carry out your electoral pledges?

The LibDems suffered from this same problem when they reneged on an electoral pledge when they went into coalition with the Tories.

Boris got away with it because he rightly calculated that kicking out the remainer Tories would restore his party’s credibility.

This development of not voting for politicians who renege on their manifesto policies is an encouraging development.

Scooot
Scooot
6 years ago
Reply to  leicestersq

Brexit was the icing on the cake but Corbyn and his extreme policies was the main problem. Mish covered it here
https://moneymaven.io/mishtalk/economics/fear-of-corbyn-outweighs-fear-of-brexit-yKKhchA-EU-plV8KePrm7Q/

Anda
Anda
6 years ago
Reply to  leicestersq

In opposition labour had no hand in the workings of the Brexit negotiations, they only had a veto possibility and had to play to whatever the tories and EU served. So that meant accepting May’s deal, BJ’s ? Whatever they proposed was a sideshow because they had no power but to delay. However labour approach to Brexit was ambiguous, not just for the above which exaggerated its appearance of being so. It isn’t possible to say what their full or true intent was, but one thing is for sure and that is whatever the tories get up to from now it will fall squarely on their (the tories) shoulders.

leicestersq
leicestersq
6 years ago
Reply to  Anda

Anda,

Labour did get to vote on the deals that Theresa May came back with, and they voted against leaving with No Deal. We remember how they voted on those proposals, doing all they could to keep us in the EU by pretending that leaving without a deal was ‘disastrous’. They lost the trust of the voters right there.

Anda
Anda
6 years ago
Reply to  leicestersq

Personally I saw labour as synonymous with the EU socialist current from the start, i.e. remain. What little local credibility in terms of nationalist sentiment they did have just got suppressed by their own agenda. Tough. Tories have their hands full now, I don’t cut much slack for any but exiting EU is a priority as far as the whole show is concerned.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
6 years ago

Mish you keep making the same mistake on Trump. 6 months ago you said the Mueller report was the end. I said Trump would be impeached by the end of the year and we are here. Now hear this. I say Trump has an 80% chance of being removed from office by the Senate based on new information that will emerge in January. One or multiple Trump administration officials will come forward with new information. In short Trump has only a 20% chance of making it the 2020 election much less winning it. He has to survive through April in order to survive this. As I’ve always maintained. There is a long way to go. Times are going to get worse for Trump very soon.

timbers
timbers
6 years ago

If you mean a wake up call for Dems to support brexit ummm….NO. if you mean Dems should become more right wing & pro war ummm….NO. You should check out the comments at Naked Capitalism. Lots of UK posters there. Corbyn lost because he wouldn’t take a stand on brexit and because he projected he didn’t want to be PM and voters pick up on that. Like you said – it was all corbyn.

Freebees2me
Freebees2me
6 years ago

……….That phone call will never happen. Nor will Hillary nor Corbyn ever look in the mirror and blame themselves.

Mike “Mish” Shedlock

Liberalism is a mental disorder

Liberalism cannot grasp wealth creation. It begins with the inability to understand that a change made in one portion of a complex system will have unintended ramifications in another part of the system. This is caused by intellectual blindness which is the result of a huge ego, i.e., I see the complete problem – I know better. And yet, the illiberal person cannot see that whacking one mole on the head is the direct and proximate cause of another mole popping up. To the illiberal, the two events are completely unrelated to each other.

Therefore, taking every dime from (so called) rich people must result in spreading the wealth, and it does, but only very short-term. And in the process, grabbing the wealth completely destroys the wealth creation system sending ‘wealth creation. into a death spiral of poverty, corruption and ultimately violence.

SMF
SMF
6 years ago
Reply to  Freebees2me

Don’t forget that most of the big time liberals are quite rich themselves. After all, if the rich were mostly GOP, New York City and San Francisco would be bastions of GOP power.

Freebees2me
Freebees2me
6 years ago
Reply to  SMF

You’re absolutely right, no question about it…

I live ‘on the coast’ and am well acquainted with the ‘illiberal’ super-rich. I hear them daily….

They truly believe that they are smarter then everyone else. They are incredibly egotistically.

Now, they boast that they would be ‘willing’ to pay more in taxes to ‘help people’ (they do not donate to charities – the federal government is their charity), but they all start choking at 50%. With that, they demand and expect total control….

Bottom line: Limousine liberals believe that if the ‘World’ was run by them, everyone would be better off….

Freedom for security…

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
6 years ago

Sorry for hijacking this thread:

Repo Madness

A very good friend called me and asked if I could explain the ongoing repo situation to him. Admittedly, I too have been a bit confused, just as I was when I first learned about sub-prime. How big is the problem? What’s its source? Is the problem what it seems to be, or is something far larger brewing? Is it a consequence of the Fed letting their account balance roll off? Is it due to regulations? Is something happening offshore? Is it a non-event? I believe it’s an issue we must keep on our radar, so I’m going to try to explain some of it here.

Let’s start with a definition. “Repo” is short for repurchase agreement. A repurchase agreement is essentially a short-term loan. Imagine you are a bank and you have clients who need to make payroll, but you don’t have enough cash on hand to cover the withdrawal. So you pledge a portion of your holdings (typically government securities) via a repurchase agreement with another bank. Bank B loans you the cash, you pledge your collateral, and you pay Bank B back tomorrow with interest. Bank B makes a little more money on the loan, picking up the yield on the government security and the interest you paid them.

There are all sorts of players who enter the repo market to solve various short-term needs. The big banks are the major ones and provide much of the liquidity. So why did rates spike from 2% to 10% in September? Why did the liquidity disappear? The simple answer is that there are not enough lenders willing to lend. The Fed has stepped in to put a Band-Aid on the problem, but the problem remains. They’ve now injected over $320 billion, and some estimate it will be over $500 billion by the month’s end. That’s a big Band-Aid, and there are no signs just yet that they will be able to rip it off.

Let’s get a little deeper into the details of repos. Repos are typically used to raise short-term capital. It’s a short-term loan; you need cash, so you pledge collateral to me and agree to pay me back tomorrow with interest. Some repos can be for 48 hours, but most are overnight. The implicit interest rate on these agreements is known as the repo rate, a proxy for the overnight risk-free rate. Repurchase agreements are generally considered safe investments since most agreements involve U.S. Treasury bonds posted as collateral. Repos are classified as a money market instrument. They are also a common tool of central bank open market operations.

Repurchase agreements can take place between a variety of parties. The Federal Reserve enters into repurchase agreements to regulate the money supply and bank reserves. Individuals normally use these agreements to finance the purchase of debt securities or other investments. Banks may use the liquidity for short-term funding needs.

The primary risk to the lender is counterparty risk, meaning that if Party 1 and Party 2 enter into an agreement and Party 2 defaults, Party 1 loses money. Party 2 may have posted collateral, but that collateral could become worthless if Party 2 goes bust, or if someone Party 2 loaned money to goes bust. Ultimately, if you lend money to your brother and he defaults, you’re screwed. Even though collateral is posted, there may be unknown risks to that collateral.

In these arrangements, a clearing agent or bank conducts the transactions between the buyer and seller to protect the interests of each. It holds the securities and ensures that the seller receives cash at the onset of the agreement and that the buyer transfers funds for the benefit of the seller and delivers the securities at maturation. The primary clearing banks for tri-party repo in the United States are JPMorgan Chase and Bank of New York Mellon.

Like prime rates, repo rates are set by central banks. The repo rate system allows governments to control the money supply within economies by increasing or decreasing available funds. A decrease in repo rates encourages banks to sell securities back to the government in return for cash. This increases the money supply available to the general economy. Conversely, by increasing repo rates, central banks can effectively decrease the money supply by discouraging banks from reselling these securities.

Well, something is wrong. The patient is bleeding. The doctor keeps applying more dressing, but the situation hasn’t improved.

From Bloomberg’s Liz McCormick on December 8, 2019:

Reserves — or cash that banks stash at the Fed — are the easiest asset for banks to tap when they want to quickly move money into repo. And it would’ve been logical for banks to pour cash into repo to get those 10% returns from an overnight loan.
The four banks that dominate the market hold about 25% of the reserves in the U.S. banking system, but 50% of the Treasuries. That mismatch likely slowed the movement of cash into repo, the BIS researchers postulated.
JPMorgan Chase & Co. Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon has put the blame on regulators themselves. He said in October that his firm had the cash and willingness to calm short-term funding markets but liquidity rules for banks held it back.
Some analysts have also pointed to a new corner of the market, which has seen immense growth: sponsored repo. This allows banks to transact with counterparties like money-market funds without impacting their balance sheet constraints. The downside is that it’s only available on an overnight basis, and as a result has further concentrated funding risk.
Not only did the spike in the repo rate come as a surprise to the New York Fed, but they also haven’t been able to normalize it as quickly as they thought they could.
Bloomberg Opinion columnist and chief economic adviser at Allianz SE Mohamed A. El-Erian said Monday on Bloomberg TV, “It hasn’t proven to be temporary. It hasn’t proved to be reversible without massive injections of liquidity. Which means that structural issues are playing a role.”
“Temporary” keeps extending! The following chart shows the Fed has provided $322 billion in liquidity support to the repo market since the crisis first spiked in September.

Just what are structural issues? This from fishing friend David Bianco:

In its simplest form, the repo market is a collateralized loan. Post securities (mainly government securities) and get money. Even though the loan is collateralized, no one wants to be stuck with a default. So these loans have a credit component where premiums or over-collateralizations are required by some borrowers or others. This is not always important, but it is when markets get volatile and liquidity issues arise. The Fed views all banks as equal. Everyone that is a designated primary dealer can get the same terms, no questions asked. For now, this is not a problem. The repo market has been medicated into submission by the Fed’s support. But the longer the Fed goes this way, the greater it becomes a potential problem. After three months, the Fed should be discussing a way to return this market back to normal, back to the banks making a credit decision in handing out repo loans. Instead, they are still studying the issue, which means they still don’t understand the problem. They are also getting in deeper and deeper as the private sector seems to be withdrawing.

This market is too important to remain in this state. None of this is a problem now, but should Fed support become more permanent, there will be issues the next time the market undergoes a stressful period. Jim concludes, “The repo market is under control as long as the Fed controls it.”

But can they control it? The BIS noted the European repo market escaped the crisis, but added that it has become fragmented and poses a long-term risk. When banks no longer trust banks, they position to protect what they’ve got. It’s not the lion we see that might get us. It’s the three hiding in the bushes, away from our view.

The bigger picture concerns me: The central banks may be losing control of the economy with their ability to manipulate short-term rates. Rates sit near zero percent and $12 trillion is yielding less than zero in much of the developed world. That number is down from $17 trillion. Near or at zero, nonetheless. And what time bomb may be triggered if rates spike higher? Can the central banks control the economy? A lot of the time, yes. All of the time, no. We sit late stage in one of the greatest central bank experiments of all time. This is now a question of confidence. As Martin Armstrong said in a recent blog, “The biggest danger we face is waking up to the realization that central banks can no longer control the economy. Once that is understood in the market place, the fun and games will begin.”

This is not Quantitative Easing like what we got in QEs 1, 2 and 3. This Fed intervention has zero impact economically, though you could argue that it does, as it is supporting short-term liquidity needs to keep the repo market functioning. I believe this may really be about the Fed trying to prevent short-term rates from rising. If they fail to do that, the issue may spill over into other markets. That would be bad news in a world awash in debt—much of it short-term. If that debt rolls over at higher interest rates, it stresses already stressed government budgets.

I’m not sure we know all of the issues behind the repo crisis, just like I underestimated the size and global scope of the sub-prime issue when it first surfaced. I can tell you my smart friends are battening down the hatches. Keep stepping forward, but do turn your lights on. The party rolls on for now, but have your stop-loss exit triggers firmly in place. Another storm is brewing.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
6 years ago

FWIW, you can scream as much as you want about liberalism and yadda yadda but once the financial system collapses again we will get a different system and the Republicans will get blamed. Politics says the Dems may let Trump win in 2020 and blame him for the coming collapse in the 2020s.

Latkes
Latkes
6 years ago

You know, you could post this in “Community” instead of hijacking this thread.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
6 years ago
Reply to  Latkes

Too important. Another crisis is at hand.

Latkes
Latkes
6 years ago

A crisis has been “imminent” for several years. And I doubt many people read your long comment. It would be more appropriate in community.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
6 years ago
Reply to  Latkes

Not really. The repo market support only started a couple of months ago. Who cares about the thread. They are mostly filled with less meaningful comments then anything I post. I feel all these issues are related at some level as they are economics posts.

Latkes
Latkes
6 years ago

Mish already addressed this 2 months ago.

Scooot
Scooot
6 years ago

I read it, very interesting thanks.

Scooot
Scooot
6 years ago

It sounds to me as if The Fed was/is acting as Lender of Last resort.
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/explainers/tell-me-more/html/what-is-a-lender-of-last-resort.en.html

Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
6 years ago

The question of repocalypse has been mostly revealed. There is JPM rotating out of cash to long dated bonds. Much like most of us, they probably see NIRP and QE out the wazoo.

But as BIS study pointed out, the main culprit is hedge funds using the repo market for their arbitrage trades. This is ominously the repeat of pre-2007 when similar trade used the arbitrage between long and short dated bonds – with lots of leverage. It went kaboom when the short dated bonds couldn’t be rolled over. Of course, with a flat yield curve this is no longer profitable.

Scooot
Scooot
6 years ago

I found this dated mid November. Anyone know of any more recent commentaries? Has anything changed?
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4307665-repocalypse-little-crisis-roared

Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
6 years ago
Reply to  Scooot
Scooot
Scooot
6 years ago

Thanks very much. Oh dear!

Tengen
Tengen
6 years ago

Have to disagree with Latkes above and say this election result was primarily about the economy, which it should be. Too many have been stagnant or declining while the City of London partied like it’s 1999.

I just read a story of various UK celebrity tweets reacting to the election, mostly aghast and a few celebratory, but all of them were clueless. the ones against were what you’d expect, hand wringing about minorities and such. The ones for were just as bad, laying Labour’s defeat at the door of being too soft on anti-Semitism! Everybody looks clueless, everyone looking at any cause other than what issues affect Britons in their day to day lives.

Latkes
Latkes
6 years ago
Reply to  Tengen

That’s some nice boomer level logic and convenient ignoring of reality.

Tengen
Tengen
6 years ago
Reply to  Latkes

I’m not a Boomer, and there’s much more to life than stupid culture wars. The cultural divide only happened because people were more concerned about their own lives, as they should have been, while the BoE and their equivalents abroad constructed a fake economy where nobody needs to work together.

UK elites do have a hatred for most of the population, but it isn’t based on race or religion.

Latkes
Latkes
6 years ago
Reply to  Tengen

I did not write you were a boomer. I wrote “boomer level logic”, because stereotypical boomers are preoccupied with economy while the country is being irreversibly transformed into 3rd world.

Tengen
Tengen
6 years ago
Reply to  Latkes

But stereotypical Boomers aren’t really concerned about the economy, they’re concerned about their personal finances. The fortunes of everyone around them can burn as long as their Fidelity accounts look mostly green. They automatically dismiss the concerns of people today with a wave of their hand, saying that they too encountered adversity back in the 1970s and if they managed to overcome, so can everyone else. It’s the intellectual laziness and self-serving logic that makes them targets for ire.

Caring about an entire country’s economy is a good thing, one that would actually bring people together for a shared cause. It wouldn’t fix every problem, but it would be a whole lot better than what we see now.

Latkes
Latkes
6 years ago
Reply to  Tengen

Anything to avoid the real issues…

Tengen
Tengen
6 years ago
Reply to  Latkes

Alright, I’ll bite. What are the real issues?

Latkes
Latkes
6 years ago
Reply to  Tengen

I already wrote that in my other comments under this article.

Tengen
Tengen
6 years ago
Reply to  Latkes

You barely said anything and I already refuted what little you wrote. Will you at least elaborate on why they dislike the native population?

The Boomer dig from earlier was beneath you too. There’s plenty of reasons to criticize them, but saying they are preoccupied with the economy is silly.

Latkes
Latkes
6 years ago
Reply to  Tengen

What are you talking about? You have not refuted anything.

Tengen
Tengen
6 years ago
Reply to  Latkes

The only thing you were right about is that the Tories will betray UK voters too. I wish you’d think about why that is the case, because then you’d realize why demonizing Labour (or voting in general) accomplishes nothing.

Your whole argument seems to boil down to Britons being upset that there aren’t enough white people. If they’re so race conscious, why did they allow mass immigration in the first place? They’re upset because they are beginning to understand that their entire way of life is foundering. Immigration in a faltering economy doesn’t help them at all, but I ask you who is worse here, the politicians pushing for open borders or the paymasters who are pushing those politicians? Getting regular people angry with each other keeps pressure off the elites, which is why our media practically begs us to be at each others’ throats 24/7.

Oh, and if you’re going to respond to this, put some effort in this time.

Anda
Anda
6 years ago
Reply to  Tengen

The whole financial house of cards, that the older generation are most adhered to, via property price, via investment returns, via pension promises, is based on economy. The UK economy is measured as a product of spending, government accounts and fiscal margin are dependent on population numbers and monetary transmission hence sheer demand to maintain prices and the balance sheets of government and business returns. This is a population formula, and to increase population balances that formula, temporarily. In a previous post with leicestersq dependency ratios were mentioned, but there is nothing to say that in practice a larger older population and stagnant overall population is not acceptable given the level of modern productivity, in fact it could be said that that would be more beneficial for the native population. Equally, importing foreign labour without granting vast national concessions is workable and common in many countries worldwide.

So, where does that leave us ? It is about finance, economy and migration, and who (EU or UK proper) decides what policy to follow. Part of labour is reactionary to the “capitalist” management of finance, they maybe see numbers (new migrant population) as key to lefter socialist overthrow, or at least to government. Basically UK is screwed either way, they will move to technical management and pseudo-damage control eventually, and UK might escape outright revolution, but the end model and result will not be UK as we know it either.

So that is why the election was also all about Brexit, because that at least pulls back full control to UK, where national policy will not be diluted by EU obligation or openly ceded influence to it.

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Onni4me
Onni4me
6 years ago

“I immediately came under attack by the radical progressives on Twitter for days after I posted such a Tweet.”
Out of curiosity I went to your twitter and scrolled about 20 or so tweets and most had few replies and some none. It would always benefit to attach the tweet link so we readers might grasp what you refer to. IMHO twitter is the cesspit of internet.
I sometimes check what is hot topic or something but NEVER comment on anything.

Latkes
Latkes
6 years ago
Reply to  Onni4me

Search 1201944387166593024 for the offending tweet.

Mish
Mish
6 years ago
Reply to  Onni4me

I really did not care to post this but since you doubt it happened.

The other happened a week or so ago over Kamela – I don’t care to bother to look it up.

But that little Item I just posted got 210 likes from radical nutcases

I did get support from Acting Man

Here in My Tweet that triggered it

I accused Yanis (that former Syzria politician from Greece) of supporting a Marxist.

The score seems 78 for me and 210 for those who like Marxists

Zardoz
Zardoz
6 years ago
Reply to  Mish

Making assertions you don’t provide support for, then calling people dense, fools, and telling them to get a grip on reality gets you nasty grams in. response? Oh what a world!

Been reading your blog for years, and while I haven’t always agreed with your ideas, you weren’t like this before. Your posts were about ideas, not insults. The nastiness started creeping in a couple years ago, and unless you’re trying to make your blog a place to preach to an angry choir. You aren’t going to get anyone to think by belittling them… you’ll just get chucked on to the “Fox News Grampa” pile.

It’s happening to everyone, now that we have instantaneous, turbocharged, unvetted letters to the editor. Somebody writes something in a nasty, condescending tone, we reply in kind, and on it goes in a permanent feedback loop until the ideas are completely obscured by the shit slinging.

If you’re gonna troll, you need a thicker skin.

Onni4me
Onni4me
6 years ago
Reply to  Onni4me

As a side note, I did not doubt it happened. Merely suggested that when telling about something a link could be provided.

I remember Varoufakis giving an in depth interview about going on in Greece when EU and IMF were forcing their way resulting Greece being even deeper into debt than before and German banks got what they wanted.

It was very interesting and a real eye opener regarding the whole monetary system or should I call it fraud? Varoufakis was very clear-worded and gave his points about the whole ordeal. Intelligent guy, no doubt.

Sad to see such a guy wasted supporting Marxism and Corbyn. But we all fail in something. He might see the problems but decided that more of bad choices are necessary.

Carl_R
Carl_R
6 years ago

Shhhh.

Latkes
Latkes
6 years ago

@WCVarones , I believe Twitter is verboten here.

Edit: 45 minutes later, the auto-mod decision has been reversed. Thanks, Mish (or whoever mods this)!

WCVarones
WCVarones
6 years ago

“He forgot to blame Russia.”

But American leftists have that covered!

Latkes
Latkes
6 years ago

This wasn’t about economy, nor the Labour’s manifesto, that has been released just a few weeks before the election.

The real reasons were in my previous comment, which was deleted. Too bad.

Edit: Thank you for allowing the automoderated comments!

Latkes
Latkes
6 years ago
Reply to  Latkes

I’ll try a short version of my deleted comment: Labour’s inversion of values and vitriolic hatred of native British populations are the reasons for their loss.

Their loss isn’t big enough, IMO.

Harry-Ireland
Harry-Ireland
6 years ago
Reply to  Latkes

Their response to this stunning defeat is to double down and declare that racism and white supremacy is to blame. These people are so fucking retarded, it’s painfully funny. No wait….it’s just painful.

Latkes
Latkes
6 years ago

The Labour manifesto was released a few weeks ago, while their preferences have been in free fall for a long time.

This isn’t about economy. Brexit isn’t about economy. All that is just convenient reframing of the real issues.

The left has made the bad, ugly, stupid, degenerate and foreign into virtues. People are revolting against that. People are also revolting against demographic replacement. They will be betrayed by Tories, but that’s a separate issue.

TheLege
TheLege
6 years ago
Reply to  Latkes

You get it!

People have had enough of the high immigration model. Enough is enough you ‘tards!

JLS
JLS
6 years ago
Reply to  Latkes

Right, so long as we understand that the immigration problem in Britain mostly involves non-EU citizens, and is therefore not primarily a Brexit issue. That isn’t to say that some EU nationalities haven’t worked hard to make themselves unpopular (travellers?), but it is the increasingly autocratic bureaucracy of the EU government that has ordinary people terrified.

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