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Covid Update: 3 Senators Positive, 12,000 Students Quarantined, States Mandate Vaccinations

Covid Update

Bloomberg reports Three Senators Positive; U.S. Schools Face Havoc.

Ten Key Details

  1. Florida’s Hillsborough County Public Schools has 11,959 has almost 11,959 students in isolation or quarantine. The school board voted Wednesday to mandate masks for everyone except those who provide a doctor’s note. 
  2. Oregon and Washington State mandated that all teachers and school personnel must get vaccinated. New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy is expected to make a similar announcement.
  3. In Alabama, the entire state is out of intensive care beds. Florida, Mississippi, Georgia and Texas’s ICUs are at 90% capacity. Tennessee intensive care beds are full in most metropolitan areas. 
  4. International Business Machines Corp. is temporarily closing its offices in New York City. Intel Corp., the world’s largest chipmaker, is offering employees $250 if they get vaccinated by the end of the year.
  5. Garth Brooks cancels concerts and refunds 350,000 tickets out of fear of spreading Covid. [NYT – Below]
  6. President Joe Biden defended his push to give booster shots to all Americans, countering criticism that the move is unfair to other nations that are still struggling to procure a first dose of vaccine. 
  7. GOP Senator Roger Wicker of Mississippi, independent Angus King of Maine and Democrat John Hickenlooper of Colorado revealed getting positive tests Thursday.
  8. Georgia Governor Brian Kemp signed an executive order Thursday prohibiting local governments from requiring masks or other Covid-19 protection measures at private businesses. 
  9. The U.S. recorded more than 1 million Covid-19 shots on Thursday, topping that level for the first time in almost seven weeks
  10. Humana Inc. will require workers to be vaccinated once the Food and Drug Administration fully approves a Covid-19 vaccine. 

Legal Battle in Texas

Texas Governor Greg Abbott, aslo testing positive for Covid this week, banned mask mandates. 

In a rebuke of Abbot’s order the Washington Post reports Educators Will Not Enforce Maks Ban.

The Texas Education Agency said on Thursday that it would not enforce a ban by Gov. Greg Abbott (R) on mask mandates, and would instead wait for “court issues” to be resolved as legal challenges to the ban play out throughout the state.

The Texas Supreme Court on Thursday denied Abbott’s request to stop school districts from requiring students to wear masks. The ruling is the latest in a legal battle playing out in Texas and other parts of the country. At least seven states are restricting local officials from instituting mask mandates in schools while classes resume and students younger than 12 remain ineligible for the vaccines.

WaPo also reports Philadelphia becomes latest archdiocese to reject religious exemptions for vaccine mandates

New York Times Update

Fox News Asks Employees to Disclose Vaccination Status

Here is one that comes completely unexpected: Fox News asks employees to disclose vaccination status

Fox News Media chief executive Suzanne Scott in a Tuesday memo updating staff on covid-19 procedures, which was obtained by both CNN Business and TVNewser, said the company had “asked all employees — whether on site as part of our essential workforce or working remotely — to upload their vaccination status” into an internal database.

The company has not mandated vaccines for its staff and has been encouraging safety measures, including uploading their vaccination status, since at least June. 

However, other companies such as Tyson Foods and Facebook, have introduced vaccine mandates, as have media outlets including The Washington Post and the New York Times.

Earlier this month, CNN fired three staff members in the United States for working in the office while unvaccinated against the coronavirus.

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RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
Why is the FDA letting people get so sick they wind up in the hospital or die, when they should be allowing people to be treated with already existing anti-viral drugs?
The FDA is a corrupt government agency.
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
4 years ago
My significant other heard from her beautician two 20-somethings got the Moderna mRNA shot and developed serious reactions. The one who is an athlete now has to undergo heart surgery, and can no longer compete. The other will have to be on medication for the rest of his life. This is EXACTLY why getting vaccinated should never be mandated for an experimental drug. Moderna got liability waived, so these victims will never be compensated for Moderna’s damage.
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
Reply to  Six000mileyear
Jimmy Dore got what could be called a Covaxine generated case of Long Covid. Steve Kirsch’s carpet cleaner had a heart attack 2 minutes after getting the shot. I am seeing just too many of these kinds of comments to buy the claim that the Covaxxines are safe.
Meanwhile someone here posted a link to a story of just one person over dosing horse paste Ivermectin, as if there was going to be an epidemic of Ivermectin over dosing. Far more people are being harmed by getting the shot.
astroboy
astroboy
4 years ago
I dunno. In Fairfax county next to DC, where I live, population 1.2 million, there have been four covid fatalities in the last two weeks, the seven day mean hasn’t been above 1 since  March. Not exactly the sky falling, in this area. Still, most places require masks. Seems like overkill. I suspect that by now everyone in the area has immunity from covid, from having had it, or been vaccinated. I can’t explain the low number of cases in any other way assuming the delta variant is as contagious as it’s supposed to be, which I have no reason to doubt. I think the local vaccination rate is 60%. With people who have already had covid and/or have natural immunity, perhaps that’s enough.
Of course, some parts of the country aren’t so lucky. 
I got the second shot a week ago. Serious problems with soreness over my entire body, muscle spasms, significant pain from injuries that healed 30 years ago. Booster? No thanks, I’m too scared what might happen. 
These vaccines are still experimental. The EU is doing a better job of tracking side effects than the US, a short web search will turn up disturbing reading. I don’t see the justification for vaccinating kids, since 1) yeah, they can get sick but the numbers are small, and 2) no one knows what the long term effects are. Probably the vaccines are fine but using a population which is basically bulletproof to the disease as guinea pigs is dodgy. 
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Three senators have tested positive but are they sick and if so how sick are they? If they are not sick or maybe only a bit then it is not news. 
amigator
amigator
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Lol if you are not feeling the effects of the “vid” then we for sure don’t want to hear that.  Only suffering and death will be broadcasted!
thedirtymac
thedirtymac
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
If it helps incite panic,  it’s news.
MrGrummpy
MrGrummpy
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
All 3 were fully vaccinated.  One is feeling fine, one is feeling a bit less than fine and the last got a test because he had significant symptoms. 
Seems like a crap shoot to me.  As for me, when I got the shot I felt very lethargic for one and one half days. That’s it.  FWIW. 
Dean_70
Dean_70
4 years ago
What good is proving you’re vaccinated when studies have proven that the effectiveness drops significantly after only 6 months of being vaccinated. This means that vaccinated people are contracting and transmitting the virus, which has not been proven over and over. So in another six month will they require proof of a booster? 
Since we now know that herd immunity is not possible with the current mRNA vaccines what is the point of vaccination validation? We can have 100% vaccinated and since the virus continues to mutate those variants will continue to spread regardless.
Also, ‘fully vaccinated’ is not accurate following the latest data. People are equating ‘fully vaccinated’ with ‘fully protected’, which is obviously very far from the truth.
Just FYI, I know an individual that is VERY paranoid and received his booster shot. His first two injections took place in January and had almost no reaction but this booster (3rd) shot last week caused a SEVERE reaction where he had an extremely high temperature and constant shaking for 3 days straight. He was concerned that he may not survive at the time but he is now recovering from the vaccination.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
Reply to  Dean_70
Looks like he got a better immune response from the booster. Maybe it takes 3 doses for some.  No one ever said this vaccine was going to work forever. In fact even MMR vaccines need boosters every 10 years. Flu vaccine is every year but you can still pass virus to others. In the end unvaccinated adults are to blame as the governor of Alabama says. Herd immunity is possible if 90% of all people get vaccinated. There is no vaccine for children under 12 now so that leaves out a good chunk of the population. It will likely take that and another round of boosters for all to get through the next 6 month period. The moderna vaccine is better than pfizer for protection against delta and slower rolloff time. No data yet on the J&J which is not an MRNA vaccine but just a muted adenovirus. We are in the middle innings of this pandemic. Will take another 18 months imo. All pandemics take about 3 years from the inception to herd immunity irrespective of if there is a vaccine.
amigator
amigator
4 years ago
Maybe after 5 doses you won’t catch it anymore….except the Omega strain I saw a movie about that a while back. Charleston Heston in the “Omega Man” it was pretty awful….https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Omega_Man#/media/File:The-Omega-Man-Poster.jpg
Jackula
Jackula
4 years ago
Reply to  goldguy
Yep, saw that….latest discussion in Israel is the vaccines may be best used as a bridge to better immunity by first vaccinating the high risk folks to lesson the danger from covid, then expose everyone to the virus to get the naturally generated broad based protection.
Jmurr
Jmurr
4 years ago
Reply to  Dean_70
It’s not about protecting you from the virus. For me, it was to protect me from the State and the harm it intends for the un-jabbed.   I took it knowing it offered little protection from the Delta variant. For protection, I take Vitamins C and D, zinc, NAC and quercertin daily. I also procured ivermectin in case I do get it. 
goldguy
goldguy
4 years ago
Reply to  Dean_70
JONZDOG
JONZDOG
4 years ago
The 3 senators has breakthrough infections.  NSW Australia, Covid delta continues to grew in spite of severe lockdown and masking measure.  Delta variant will find homes in both the unvaccinated and vaccinated.  
Bay-Brit
Bay-Brit
4 years ago
Why is the propaganda for  HIV and Covid opposite? Get HIV and you are a victim, get Covid and you deserve to die. If this were science it would be consistent or is unsafe sex safer than unmasked shopping?
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
Reply to  Bay-Brit
You must not have been around in the 80s when HIV started and HIV was treated as a gay disease. Only later did we learn it came from blood transfusions also. 
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago

In France in the early 80’s they learned that HIV could be transmitted by blood
transfusions and an American company had made a machine to kill the virus
before it was put into another person. The government at the time knew this but
waited eight months till a French company was ready with a machine that did the
same thing. 5,000 people were infected by transfusion with HIV and died because the French
government waited for a domestically manufactured machine. A scandal ensued and
the investigation revealed that the decision was made in a committee meeting
and that no one there remembered who actually made the decision to condemn
these people to death. The prime minister was there as were several other top
ministers. In the end the Prime Minister, Laurent Fabius, said that he was
responsible but not guilty, a typical bureaucratic response. No one was ever
sanctioned. 

amigator
amigator
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
The US Government?  Wonder what they are holding back right now?
Jmurr
Jmurr
4 years ago
Reply to  Bay-Brit
The US was more free back then. 
goldguy
goldguy
4 years ago
Anyone who did not take the jab, will not want to go to the hospital…no threat.  Anyone trusting these fools, after being lied to for almost 2 years, well, you are the fools.
Forcing medical professionals to take the jab or lose there job?  All that will do is cause a shortage of  healthcare professionals and will only fill up the local hospitals.  Stupid is as stupid does.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Best to get our noses out of our local news bubble and look at what is happening to the rest of the world and try to detect patterns. 
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
Covid is back and here to stay. It will take the better part of the next full year to get past the delta variant. Vaccines are wearing off and everyone will need the vaccine or booster ASAP to prevent shutdowns.  If you live in a place where is no hospital capacity, god help you. There are going to be people dying at home and on the streets. 
tbergerson
tbergerson
4 years ago
Well actually if we did not have a permanently and totally corrupted medical establishment captured entirely by Big Pharma we could be trying the safe and cheap treatments here that would ameliorate what is now an endemic disease and almost certainly prevent the nightmare scenario you are painting of people dying in their homes and on the streets.
If they try lockdowns again here, it will be the straw that broke the camel’s back.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
Reply to  tbergerson
You want to blame big pharma for unhealthy people ? Good luck with that. Americans are unhealthy at a baseline. 
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
Reply to  tbergerson
FWIW, lockdowns won’t happen but I’m guessing if you see people dying in the streets outside hospital ERs then people will likely not venture out anywhere. I went to the grocery store at 8pm last night and there weren’t but about 5 people in the whole place. Very weird for a Thursday evening as it is usually busier. 
tbergerson
tbergerson
4 years ago
Reply to  tbergerson
You want to blame big pharma for unhealthy people ?
No CO, I want to blame Big Pharma for enforcing the non-use of therapies OTHER than the vaccine.  Therapies that have shown promise in bringing the pandemic under control. 
Carl_R
Carl_R
4 years ago
I’ll make an entirely different, and more optimistic prediction. Original covid had an R0 high enough to require a 70-80% for Herd immunity, but with social distancing, 60-65% was enough. Delta has an amazing R0 of 8, so 90-95% will be needed. Figure that there are about 40% who haven’t had it, of whom about half are vaccinated.
Currently Delta is ripping through that last 20%, plus some cases of repeat infection, and some breakthough cases. With the high R0, it will burn through that last 20% in a hurry, then peter out again, most likely in only a few more weeks. 
After that, we will start learning how long lasting natural immunity is, and how long immunity lasts from the vaccines. We do know that antibody levels decline at about 3% a month, so will immunity last only a year or two? Or will memory cells give us longer lasting immunity, perhaps even lifetime immunity? Only time will answer that. 
As for the hospitals, I expect the crunch to vanish as quickly as it appeared. Delta is so virulent that it is hitting every vulnerable person at the exact same time. After that, cases will vanish, and the load on the hospitals will, too. 
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R
Good observation.
Carl_R
Carl_R
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78

It won’t take long to find out if my guess is accurate. We will know within two weeks.  If this surge lasts longer than that, it means that there is either a high number of people with reinfections, or a high number of breakthrough cases, or both. At that point we’ll have to address waning immunity, and whether it is natural immunity or from the vaccine that is waning. It bothers me when people post that they have all the answers. No one does. We each have a world view, and we can make projections based on them. If my prediction doesn’t happen, I’ll have to adjust mine. 

Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R
The “wait and see response” is the most judicious one at this time. Either it abats because of all the vaccines and exposure and we can declaire partial victory or it comes back which would mean that our current methods are not working and we will have to change strategy.
ajc1970
ajc1970
4 years ago
“everyone will need the vaccine or booster ASAP to prevent shutdowns.”
The most vaccinated country on Earth (Israel) currently has an incidence rate 2X that of the US (which is already high)… 466 per 100,000 in Israel.
Vaccines don’t prevent cases (nor were they designed to, and excluding politicians, nobody promised that they would).
If US were 100% vaccinated (good luck getting it past 70% now that the disease is 100% politicized), there would still be lockdowns coming.
“everyone will need the vaccine or booster ASAP to prevent shutdowns.”
Nothing is going to prevent the blue state shutdowns.*
And the blue state shutdowns are not going to prevent COVID.  Use the 12-month window of your choice to compare blue & red states — blue states won’t be doing any better.
* Newsom being recalled would be the possible exception to this.  It might put the fear of god into the Dems earlier, instead of during the Nov 22 elections.
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
4 years ago
If this were actually a REAL pandemic and the so-called “vaccines” actually worked, there would be absolutely no need to coerce/force people to take them.
anoop
anoop
4 years ago
Reply to  Bam_Man
The disease is real.  The vaccines work but they are not 100% effective and the main problem is that they aren’t letting people make the risk/reward call for themselves.  I think the side effects (aka injuries) are being underreported which is why there are so many nurses that are refusing to take it.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
Reply to  anoop
Nurses who dont get vaccinated didnt learn anything about vaccines or study viruses. Try taking advice from a doctor instead.
tbergerson
tbergerson
4 years ago
The Doctors are avoiding it even more than the nurses.  The lowest vaccinated population are those with PhDs
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
Reply to  tbergerson
PhD stands for permanent head damage. Try MD instead.
goldguy
goldguy
4 years ago
MD’s are held hostage by the false narrative. Wakeup
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
Reply to  goldguy
Good luck with that. In fact go ahead and infect yourself with Covid (again) and see how you feel.
astroboy
astroboy
4 years ago
I have a PhD. Spent years learning how to do research and actually understand figures and the stuff printed by the MSM and even a lot of journal articles just doesn’t hold up to scrutiny by some with experience in quantitative analysis, which excludes 99.9% of MDs, unfortunately. Of course, I might have experienced brain damage along the way….
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
4 years ago
Reply to  anoop
The disease is real.
It is not and never was a pandemic.
It has a case survival rate of 99+ percent. That is by definition, NOT a pandemic.
ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond
4 years ago
While I would like to see all adults vaccinated I respect those who decide no to do so.  Just don’t show up at an emergency room expecting to be treated if and when you contract the virus.  Your individual decision should not put be allowed to put hospital workers and other hospital patients at risk.
tbergerson
tbergerson
4 years ago
If they are vaccinated they are not being put at risk.  What you are suggesting is inhuman and also contrary to the hippocratic oath
ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond
4 years ago
Reply to  tbergerson
Vaccines are not 100% effective. The risk to the vaccinated  health care worker is that they pass it on to an immune compromised friend or family member. I am not suggesting doctors violate their Hippocratic oath. I am suggesting those that refuse the vaccine without good reason suck it up and not go to an emergency room.
ajc1970
ajc1970
4 years ago
As long as over 60% of Americans are obese, I’m not accepting lectures about preventable diseases consuming all of our hospital capacity.
ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond
4 years ago
Reply to  ajc1970
I bet if they could vaccinate against obesity all these people would be lining up in droves.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
Is this a good time to buy gold and silver?
Scooot
Scooot
4 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Good question. Silver’s been under a lot of pressure. The gold/silver ratio has blown out to 77 from a low of around 61ish earlier in the year. This week, as Gold rallied, Silver was sold. Personally I’d wait for this ratio to stabilise before I bought Silver. FWIW I still like Gold, but whether this is a good entry point is anyone’s guess. 🙂 
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
You’d think the president, as part of his ‘plan’ when mandating masks, would carefully define WHICH masks are effective.
ColoradoAccountant
ColoradoAccountant
4 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
I read the article and it spoke about filtering out particles, but never mentioned virus or bacteria, or the size of the particles.
Cocoa
Cocoa
4 years ago
Carl_R
Carl_R
4 years ago
Reply to  Cocoa

I’m confused. Are you saying that an uncommon risk of myocarditis from the vaccine is somehow worse than actually having covid, which comes with a very high risk of myocarditis? 

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
You have to expect many more than 12K kids being quarantined, within a few days or weeks.
ajc1970
ajc1970
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Yes, because blue districts have unreasonable quarantine policies.
Of the thousands of school kids quarantined right now, how many tested positive? How many were indoors within 20′ of an infected person for more than a few minutes?  We know the answer to the first question is low.  I suspect the answer to the 2nd question is very low — hell, if it’s not, the schools are negligent because at this point only weather should stop them from holding most school activities, including classroom instruction, outdoors.
Anon1970
Anon1970
4 years ago
Could you put the original publication date next to the archived stories?
Bungalow Bill
Bungalow Bill
4 years ago

Quite often in times like these you hear people say “God is trying to send this country a message” and then point towards the immoral/failed leadership of the left. This has been a trend with the televangelical community for a while now. I find it fascinating in the last five years they embraced an immoral adulterous man as the leader of the elephant team and there are no prophetic messages coming from these people as this virus is hitting the redest states the hardest. Funny how such disease is used for political gains by these evangelicals when the other party is in charge.I have to remind people God is not a Republican and God is not a Democrat as I make this observation.

nkirby
nkirby
4 years ago
Reply to  Bungalow Bill
Was it Jesus who said “There are none so blind as those who will not see”?
Pontius
Pontius
4 years ago
Washington Post headline deceptive: “Educators will not enforce mask ban.”  Executive order does not ban masks, bans policies mandating masks. Somewhat akin abortion debate.  Executive order to guarantee individual choice. A parent seeking to send child to school with a mask unaffected.  
nkirby
nkirby
4 years ago
Reply to  Pontius
Was it Jesus who said “There are none so blind as those who will not see”?
Post Script: This was meant for a different message thread – and now that I see that – there seems no way to delete it 🙁 

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