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Curmudgeon on Cryptocurrency, Bitcoin Supporters, and the Shoeshine Boy

Curmudgeon on Cryptocurrency

Investment manager Vitaly Katsenelson, author of the Contrarian Edge, has a four-part series on cryptocurrencies. 

Part three Curmudgeon on Cryptocurrency caught my eye. Here are some key excerpts.

In mid-April I picked my 15-year-old daughter Hannah and her friend Sarah up from school and took them to Barnes & Noble. Sarah found out that I “do stocks” for a living and immediately asked me about crypto. She wondered what cryptocurrency she should buy and if she should open a Robinhood account.

I’ll tell you about the advice I gave her in a bit. But a few days later I got three calls in one day from my wife’s side of the family – from my sister-in-law (a pharmacist) and my wife’s cousins (both are barbers). They were all asking me about crypto. I told them, you don’t ask my advice on which number to put your chips on when you play roulette in Vegas; cryptocurrencies fall into the same category.

I feel like an old curmudgeon writing this. I know “I don’t get it.” Crypto lovers look at me as if I am defending silent movies and treating “talkies” as unwelcome, short-term imposters. Curmudgeon I am.

When we discuss crypto, we need to separate blockchain technology from the so-called currencies. Though I have yet to see a mainstream application of blockchain, I get a feeling they are coming. However, just because a technology is useful, has a lot of applications, and is widely accepted doesn’t automatically mean that you can use it to create a genuine currency.

Arguably, Bitcoin is worse for the environment than internal combustion engine cars if you adjust for CO2 production in relation to societal utility (at least cars get you places). For the energy cost of processing one bitcoin, VISA can process 810,000 transactions, about 370 times faster

Cryptocurrencies are a clear and present danger to the US dollar. There is a very high probability that the US government will outlaw the use of cryptos as currencies. Sounds far-fetched? The US government did this in 1933 with gold. That was less than 100 years ago. India is threatening to ban Bitcoin. South Korea already did.

I am sympathetic to some cryptocurrency investors, especially after seeing what we are doing with our fiat currency. However, for most people they are just speculative vehicles. My wife’s relatives pay little attention to the US Government’s or Fed’s balance sheets. They are interested in bitcoin for one reason only – it is going up. Cryptos present these “unique” opportunities for people to pour their life savings into bits and bytes on servers far far away with a hope that they’ll magically turn their lives into paradise on the beach.

Now to the advice I gave to Sarah (my daughter’s 15-year-old friend). I told her, first of all, don’t open an account on Robinhood. This platform has merged the worst that social media and the casino have to offer into one interface. You are too young to gamble. If you’d like to invest, then you have to accept that it’s not a get-rich-fast but rather a get-rich-slow activity. Once Sarah heard “get rich slow,” I think she lost interest in whatever advice I had to offer. Luckily we arrived at Barnes & Noble, so she did not have to go on listening to this curmudgeon.

I’ll leave this discussion with a quote by one of my favorite thinkers, Nassim Taleb: “[Investing/speculating in cryptocurrencies is] the idea that a collection of people would get rich at the expense of society for the sole privilege that the world is adopting their currency and not another.” 

Tweet Firestorm

Today, I got into a Tweet firestorm with Bitcoin supporters on Twitter. I mentioned transaction costs and storage costs. 

I was informed that I am way behind the time on transaction costs and need to be using Lightning Network. Someone even offered to send me a few pennies to prove fast, cheap transaction speed.

OK someone sends me a few pennies via Lightning Network. Make that a few thousand dollars, or better yet enough to buy a car. What about a merchant who does not want to hold Bitcoin, but wants to sell it?

How long does it take that take? At what cost? At what risk in a fast moving market?

Can merchants can instantaneously convert Bitcoin to dollars or euros with no risk or slippage? If not, the Lightning Network idea fails because merchants will not hop on board.

By the way, not many merchants have hopped on board, have they? 

Investopedia comments: “Although the Lightning Network has experienced growth and development since its inception, challenges remain. Bitcoin’s price fluctuations have prevented the crypto from becoming a widespread method of payment for consumer and business transactions. Also, there are costs involved in using Lightning Network since transactions still need to be done on the blockchain.”

Scaling

By storage costs, I thought it was obvious that I was referring to data storage but some thought I was referring to the cost of storing Bitcoin.

I am still trying to get a handle what would happen if Bitcoin was legal tender all over the globe. Every transaction is a Bitcoin transaction.

How much data would be needed to store the blockchain in a distributed manner. How much energy does this take, etc?

Perhaps there are answers to all of these issues, and if so, yep, I was unaware of them. But even so …

Bitcoin Will Never Have Widespread Monetary Use

Even if there are believable answers to distributed transaction storage and transaction costs, and merchants can instantaneously convert Bitcoin to dollars with no slippage, Bitcoin will never be globally used as money.

Q: Why is that?
A: Taxes

Despite the hype will anyone buy meals with Bitcoin? What about a Tesla?

Some might, just to prove a point (they can), but any use has a tax consequence. 

As soon as you sell, you have a capital gain (or loss). That capital gains issue preempts widespread transaction usage. 

False Narratives

Mr. Whale has a interesting take on 7 False Bitcoin Narratives

Mr. Whale, do we need to add the Lightning Network to the list of false narratives? 

Getting Up to Speed

This is not a matter of getting curmudgeons up to speed on what’s theoretically possible.

Rather, Bitcoin advocates need to understand the false narratives as well as the very real possibility that if central banks or governments ever feel threatened by cryptocurrencies they will destroy them.

China is cracking down on energy use and other countries will follow. 

So What?

That is the common response and the source of another narrative with false conclusions: I keep my keys and bitcoin storage private, in cold storage, government will not get at my Bitcoins.

True, those people will keep their bitcoins. Hooray? 

No. All governments will not ban Bitcoin. They will ban bitcoin transactions. The whole scheme implodes. 

You have Bitcoins but cannot sell them for money or buy anything with them except by barter with someone who will take them. 

Governments might ban them for any number of reasons: Money laundering, tax evasion, to stop speculation, and any number of made up causes. 

Governments might also tax the hell out of mining or outright ban that for any number of reasons. 

What About Tether?

And what about the Tether issue? Most Bitcoin transactions are via Tether, an alleged stablecoin that is actually backed by nothing observable. 

For discussion, please see Investigating the Charge “Bitcoin Price is Dependent on $60 Billion Accounting Fraud”

Shoeshine Boy

Finally, what about the Shoeshine Boy

“Taxi drivers told you what to buy. The shoeshine boy could give you a summary of the day’s financial news as he worked with rag and polish. An old beggar who regularly patrolled the street in front of my office now gave me tips and, I suppose, spent the money I and others gave him in the market. My cook had a brokerage account and followed the ticker closely. Her paper profits were quickly blown away in the gale of 1929.”

The story relates to Joseph P. Kennedy as told by Wikipedia.

Kennedy formed alliances with several other Irish-Catholic investors, including Charles E. Mitchell, Michael J. Meehan, and Bernard Smith. He helped establish a “stock pool” to control trading in the stock of glassmaker Libbey-Owens-Ford. The arrangement drove up the value of the pool operators’ holdings in the stock by using insider information and the public’s lack of knowledge. Pool operators would bribe journalists to present information in the most advantageous manner. Pool operators tried to corner a stock and drive the price up, or drive the price down with a “bear raid”. Kennedy got into a bidding war for control of Yellow Cab Company. 

Kennedy later claimed he understood that the rampant stock speculation of the late 1920s would lead to a market crash. Supposedly, he said that he knew it was time to get out of the market when he received stock tips from a shoe-shine boy. Kennedy survived the crash “because he possessed a passion for facts, a complete lack of sentiment and a marvelous sense of timing”.

YOLO

Now, 15-year-olds are seeking or giving investment advice on cryptos. YOLO, you only live once, is the mantra investment advice of the day on Reddit. 

I do not know when speculative mania ends, and now does anyone else. 

But that is what the Fed has been promoting in spades, and so far beaten all expectations.

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Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
If Bitcoin is currently worth $33,000+/-, how much is Windows 7 OS now worth? FYI, they both came out in 2009. Created by technology, destroyed by technology.
RedQueenRace
RedQueenRace
4 years ago
I have no use for Bitcoin myself but I have seen arguments like this from the “curmudgeon”
“Cryptocurrencies are a clear and present danger to the US dollar.”
and I do not agree.   Until US businesses say something along the lines of
“We do not accept dollar-based payments.  Bitcoin only.”
there is no threat.  It’s just an “asset” that people trade back and forth among themselves at various prices.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
Reply to  RedQueenRace
Your ‘asset’ is also a ‘product’, with a product life cycle dependent on the rate of technological innovation. It is currently in the growth phase, and like every successful product, garners many imitators, which effectively constrain prices. All products go through maturity and decline phases–with rapid innovation a peak/decline can occur at any time, and be drastic.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
The War in Afghanistan is effectively over with the handing over of the Bagram Airfield. How long until the long knives come out and the Taliban takes Kabul?
Probably not long.
But I celebrate this boondoggle being over. It is nothing but good for the US, and maybe there will be a peace dividend.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
One of my trader mentors is expecting the dollar to top today on the jobs report and turn back down on profit taking. That should help the metals.
Gold and silver popped at the NYMEX open, but profit taking is bringing them back down at this hour. It does look like the bottom is in for the short run, and I expect several more days of upside, probably with a little less volatility than the last couple of weeks,
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Even if by some miracle crypto currencies became mainstream, the governments would create their own. Not use one of the ones already in existence. You would have to pay taxes in their currency and all their transfer payments would be in their currency. It would swamp all the others and would be the only one accepted as payment.
Scooot
Scooot
4 years ago
“I am still trying to get a handle what would happen if Bitcoin was legal tender all over the globe. Every transaction is a Bitcoin transaction.”
There’d be no value in holding it because they’d be no other currencies to trade it for. 
Morn
Morn
4 years ago
Most “coins” are not designed as methods of payment.  They are simply software protocols designed to expand the function of the underlying blockchain.  This is largely achieved through distributed computing, which would not normally be controversial except for the rather novel means of incentivizing participation – the creation of the “coin” or “token” itself (“crypto-currency”).
Let’s take Chainlink (Link, for short) as an example (one of the larger ones – #15 by market cap at the moment):
It’s an oracle service for the Ethereum blockchain – it allows data from a real world source (e.g. a web database) to be confirmed/validated and then used on the blockchain.  This requires real world dedicated hardware and energy to accomplish.  So, if you have these resources and you’re a believer in blockchain as a technology in general and also that oracle services will be an important part of that, you go and buy yourself as much Link on the open market as is required to setup a Link node that will then allow you fulfill oracle services requests (and generally the larger amount of Link you acquire, the more data you’ll be able to validate and process).
Now, you’re not doing this for free, you want to be compensated, and that’s accomplished in two different ways:
1 – As you process/validate oracle requests you receive some amount of the native blockchain token as a processing fee (in this case Ethereum)
2 – You receive more Link as a form of interest (in a way) for essentially dedicating your existing stake to performing services for the blockchain – you’re then free to either use that to increase your stake and thus potentially earn more ETH, or just sell it on the open market to others looking to start their own Link nodes or speculators (obviously it tends to be more speculators)
How valuable (in dollars) the compensation from #1 will be is dependent on how widely adopted the Ethereum network ever comes to be (not counting the speculative affects on price here).  The ETH token isn’t really designed to be a form of payment for anything else except to perform work on the Ethereum network itself.  If you’re a business or individual that wants to use the Ethereum network for something, you HAVE to own some ETH to get it done.  That’s where the fundamental theoretical value of the ETH token comes from (and then add speculation on top of that).  The value is in the amount activity on the network.
Compensation of the 2nd variety tends to vary depending on the coin, but a lot of coins (Link included) have an eventual finite supply that will be reached.  The “interest” doesn’t last forever.  Most coins with professional teams behind them will release transparent inflation schedules with the general understanding that at the moment network fees are not enough to fully cover energy and other costs for current node operators, so in many cases its a form of subsidy in the early years until general network adoption and efficiency increases enough for node operation to be sustainable on its own.  Of course, this may or may not ever happen depending on if blockchain ever really goes anywhere.
The speculative pressures on price in the crypto world are crazy, but the underlying economics behind the various coins/tokens, and why there is potential fundamental value to them assuming blockchain becomes widely adopted is quite clear to me and I think most would understand it if they took the time to read some of the white-papers released by their teams.
Dean2020
Dean2020
4 years ago
This will unfold like the dot com boom/bust. Some projects will be successful while others will be worthless but the underlying technology is solid and will transform the financial markets along with countless other sectors.  Some people are stuck on Bitcoin and what it can’t do but just like any emerging technology there will be others that surge ahead, learn from other’s mistakes and solve problems. The DeFi arena continues to march forward. Do a little research on the hundreds of projects instead of being stuck on a dinosaur as a representation of the entire crypto market. Only the MSM believes the crypto market begins and ends with Bitcoin. 
Get out of your comfort zone and actually learn about the technology instead of reading about other people’s uninformed opinions. If you don’t understand the technology then your opinion has no merit. Stop being sheep that simply regurgitates baseless information. 
Apple was once a speculative company that was on the verge of bankruptcy more than once. Large swings in price action with speculators riding the crazy waves. Many of these blockchain projects will cease to exist in a few years but many will prove to have solid technology and mass adoption. This is historically how emerging technology behaves. With blockchain you have easy entry, which breeds fraud but you can’t dispute the underlying technology. 
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  Dean2020
I spent two years learning a great deal about crypto and I’ve owned many of the good alt coins…..I’ve also owned BTC, which I think is NOT so good, not that anybody chasing it cares what I think.
Crypto is highly speculative, and unfortunately ALL crypto prices are dragged up and down by one thing, and if you don’t know what that is, then you don’t know much about crypto. lol.
I got out of it and I don’t plan to go back.
Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish
4 years ago
The block-chain/crypto-coin world seems similar to the early PC world of the 1970’s. Same type of people involved. Saying the same overblown utopian talk that flies over the heads of the general public. Taking the long view. Ultra-hopeful for the world they are building. Extremely clever, practical, and down-to-earth.
This is not a type of people to be ignored.
These people already have reasonable solutions to issues like block-chain speed and electrical use and lack of privacy and blah, blah, blah. Consider this: Does Bitcoin, the “coin”, need Bitcoin’s slow, electricity-hogging block-chain? Why?
That said, I personally don’t gamble in fields of shattered dreams and crookedness. Though, come to think of it, I do have too much tied up in US dollars. 🙂
surrealist
surrealist
4 years ago
For how much you talk about bitcoin you sure don’t seem to have done a lick of research on the topic
shamrock
shamrock
4 years ago
Buttcoin good.
Dr. Manhattan23
Dr. Manhattan23
4 years ago
What happens if the US bans all crypto from the SWIFT system? If the US says the SWIFT system cant transact in anything resulting from crypto, then what??? Banks will block every transaction 
Governments will for sure crackdown on crypto. It is a threat to them in the long run. I wouldn’t be surprised if regulators were waiting for the perfect time to start bringing it down. Like a crash. Then they can use the crash to justify all the shady activity around it and ban it for our safety
Im not insinuating I understand everything, but my observation with ardent crypto defense is a result of an imperfect understanding of how capital actual flows through the system. My tech friends who are into it really push for it
njbr
njbr
4 years ago
While in theory there is a limited number of bitcoins (21 million, with 18.5 already mined), there is nothing preventing the expansion of bitcoin quantity.  Bitcoin police, anyone?
And there really is no bar to the creation of other electron based currencies, as has been done already.
No shortage of electrons, as far as I know. 
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Stocks probably just entered the last and final melt-up phase of this 10 plus year bull market…today. Does that mean everybody who owns stocks is going to lose their *ss?  No, probably not. But will there be a correction? Just as sure as God made little green apples. Sooner later, and I’d bet on fairly soon if I was a betting man.
 I invest in tangible assets…because I want to understand EVERYTHING  about the assets I’m holding, and I want to have AGENCY as far as the decision making processes involved. I want to be the SOLE owner. I want to own assets that will never go to zero, not even in the worst crash of all time. I want to own things that will preserve my modest wealth.
I want tax advantaged investments, because if I don’t, I’ll pay incredibly onerous taxes. My record for income tax was 250K. When I hit that level I got very proactive. Is that a lot of tax?  For me it was. That same year, my baby brother, who sells oil field equipment, paid 600K to the IRS. It’s all relative. I just know I work pretty damn hard, and I don’t like to see half or more of my income go for tax….and today, in this country, it is very easy for that to happen if you’re a small business man with high earned income..
Crypto is fine if you want to buy a lottery ticket. BTC has a better chance of hitting 200K than I have of winning the PowerBall jackpot. But beyond that, it’s a fools game. 
Bitcoin is worthless as a medium of exchange. I can name ten other cryptos that are faster, less environmentally damaging, and would work far better for a point-of-sale application. But none of them will be adopted because money is a monopoly of the banks, and that is not going to change. 

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