The most striking aspect is the MAGA denial and hypocrisy.
Texts to Reporters on Yemen Military Strike
Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg reports The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans
U.S. national-security leaders included me in a group chat about upcoming military strikes in Yemen. I didn’t think it could be real. Then the bombs started falling.
I, however, knew two hours before the first bombs exploded that the attack might be coming. The reason I knew this is that Pete Hegseth, the secretary of defense, had texted me the war plan at 11:44 a.m. The plan included precise information about weapons packages, targets, and timing.
This is going to require some explaining.
The Wall Street Journal reports Top Trump Officials Debated War Plans on Unclassified Chat Shared With Journalist
Senior Trump administration national-security officials held detailed discussions of highly classified U.S. plans to launch airstrikes against Yemen’s Houthi militants using a commercial messaging service and mistakenly included a journalist in the conversation, U.S. officials said Monday.
The chats over the Signal encrypted messaging service spanned days and included specific information about weapons, targets and timing used in the attack, according to the Atlantic magazine, whose editor, Jeffrey Goldberg, was inadvertently included in the discussion and who disclosed the texts.
Vice President JD Vance was skeptical of the need to strike the Houthis. Little U.S. trade passed through the Suez Canal, the maritime thorough way connecting the Red Sea to the Mediterranean, whereas “40 percent of European trade does.”
Attacking the militants, Vance argued, would benefit Europe far more than the U.S. and might lead to a spike in oil prices. “I am not sure the president is aware how inconsistent this is with his message on Europe right now,” he said. While he would support the consensus of the top officials in the chat, Vance said, “I just hate bailing Europe out again.” [Inconsistent messaging, hmm no one could possibly have thought that]
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and an account with the initial S.M., apparently the initials of senior White House aide Stephen Miller, agreed with Vance’s criticism of Europe.
“It’s PATHETIC,” Hegseth said, though he recommended moving forward with the strikes instead of delaying the attack another month, as Vance suggested. The debate about the attack could leak, making the administration appear “indecisive,” or that Israel would decide to strike first, Hegseth said.
National Security Council spokesman Brian Hughes confirmed the authenticity of the chat in a statement to The Wall Street Journal. He didn’t respond to questions about whether the chat ran afoul of legal procedures for handling classified information.
“I never sent any classified information on anything other than a secure U.S. government system. There is no justification whatsoever—none—to use any nongovernmental system,” said John Bolton, Trump’s third national-security adviser during the president’s first term. “This is appalling.” [Expect Trump supporters to attack Bolton instead of focusing on the message]
Hegseth, speaking to reporters in Hawaii Monday, criticized Goldberg as “discredited” and said that “nobody was texting war plans and that’s all I have to say about that.” [Ah yes, attack the person you sent the texts to as “discredited]
According to the Atlantic article, Hegseth pushed back on delaying the operation by a month, in part out of fear a potential leak would make the administration look “indecisive.” Two hours before the strikes began, Hegseth sent the group sensitive information about the strike plan, including “weapons packages, targets, and timing,” the magazine said.
Goldberg wrote that he was initially dubious that the Signal chat group he was mistakenly invited to join was authentic. “I didn’t think it could be real. Then the bombs started falling.”
The article didn’t include the operational details on the strike and withheld the name of a CIA official, Goldberg said.
Hegseth is Discredited
Please play this Amusing Video of Hegseth arracking Goldberg.
Hegseth made a jackass out of himself.
Here are some Texts Regarding Yemen.
Had the administration acknowledged the serious error, Hegseth would not look so stupid, and I would not be doing this post.
In this X video, Trump said he didn’t know anything about it.
How many find that credible?
Image the howls had this happened under the Biden administration.
Can someone tell me why when something good happens Trump takes credit, but when something bad happens, it’s never his fault? I heard that Trump invented the phrase, “The buck never ever stops here.”
An interesting way to communicate with Europe? Believable?
This is just Nero and his minions doing the best they can don’t be to harsh.Just read finance and see what’s Boeing is asking Nero.
Trump‘s people should use Hillary Clinton‘s line after the death of the US ambassador to Libya, a death that she probably could have prevented —
“What difference, at this point, does it make?”
While Trump is dealing with Iran and Putin western investors are pouring in. China is in a drought. investing in China is drying out. For decades China was entitled to western funds. Li Qiang, China PM, #2 after Xi, threatened western investors. Yesterday he sign an EO to fight the Anti China sanctions.
Back in the olden economic analysis days ~ 18 years ago, Mish was big on ‘definitions’.
How about this one –
‘Shared’
?
Your headline is ridiculously false. Whatever it takes for the clicks though I guess.
It’s actually true
Their marching orders came in; the new strategy is just lie and say it didn’t happen
The mental gymnastics of thinking this admin is competent yet knowing they shared battle plans by mistake is proving too much for MAGAs. So now? Dissociate from reality and pretend it didn’t happen. In a day or two they’ll actually believe it. We’ve seen this before.
“Battle plans”???????? If you had any time in the armed forces, you’d know that’s not what was discussed on these messages. If Goldberg actually claims he has classified information, then he should share it. The X post that Mish posted in this article is NOT classified. This is the Dems/Left looking for a scandal.
Here’s another great Trump idea:
White House Says Gold Reserves May Be Used to Purchase Bitcoin
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/white-house-says-gold-reserves-213421472.html
One of my observations from all of this, is that JD Vance seems to be the voice of reason – basically hesitating to think things out. I actually think he is the brains of the entire outfit. Of course I am orignally from Ohio, so I might be a bit biased. He could be the 9th president from my former state.
After lecturing the European leader he is lecturing Trump’s cabinet members, while his wife is in Greenland.
She shouldn’t have had that argument with him the other day. Now she finds herself suddenly in Greenland. Sometimes I wish I could have that power.
In my experience people from Ohio have superior IQs and reasoning abilities as well as being level-headed, inventive and innovative. Those from the southwestern part are especially gifted. Although I myself come from there my judgment is disinterestedly correct.
Downvotes come from non-Ohioans.
Iran wants to make a deal with the US if Trump remove the sanction. In Riyad Russia and the US have agreed to a free merchant ships navigation in the Black Sea. Russia agreed to stop attacking energy facilities. The US will cut the cost of shipping insurance, Russia will sell fertilizers and agri products to the US and the global market.
Guarnateed if Biden did this GOP would immediately begin impeachment proceedings. Everyone here knows that’s a fact.
Um, did they impeach Biden for incapacity?
Make Israel Great(er) Again!
We’ve been bombing them for decades. Boneheaded chatting about this stuff but beyond that they are still kicking warning or no warning. They can’t be defeated with bombing.
This never happened when everyone in the Government used Blackberries and their proprietary network + encryption.
Maybe the US should have bought Blackberry just for the proprietary network + encryption so that only government employees would be on the chats.
I don’t know how someone could “inadvertently” listen on the conversation on any platform, especially one that is promoted for security.
Very fishy story.
You democrats are really clinging onto small stuff and false hopes lately. I guess it is all you have left. Let’s talk about your decimated party instead. The end of globalism worldwide. The continuing nullification of your media lap dogs like the WSJ. All the corruption and theft by your hands that is being exposed. Your dwindling membership. The inevitable extinction of your party.
What would you have said had this happened under Biden? Would it still have been “small stuff” then? I doubt it.
Conservatives don’t care about any of that so long as they are in power.
Correct, I wish both conservatives and liberals would just cut the BS and admit they want a dictator simply to punish the other side.
https://babylonbee.com/news/4d-chess-genius-trump-leaks-war-plans-to-the-atlantic-where-no-one-will-ever-see-them
Hilarious!
W. VA banned emulsifiers and 7 artificial dyes in public schools.
This situation is not about the leak, the Houthis, or what Donald Trump knew when asked. It is extremely alarming because the people in the administration whom the American people entrust conduct themselves in a serious and responsible manner as they perform their duties, which require strictly following all security protocols. These people lead government agencies that use safeguarded information as a matter of national security and life and death for the soldiers, operators, and sources they are responsible for preserving. Furthermore, how can these Cabinet members and senior advisors to the President ask those who report to them to strictly follow all security laws and protocols when they are having sensitive discussions on a private messaging App? Unfortunately, this is what you get when you staff your leadership positions with people who have zero or minimal experience handling classified material and working in the government in a world where strict adherence to security protocols is non-negotiable. How could the Director of the CIA, the Senior Security Advisor to the President, and the Director of National Intelligence not know better than to participate in such a discussion on a non-government unsecure messaging App? I would have even known to have everyone disconnect when the conversation turned to operational details.
You have offended multiple GOP toadies
After today’s Senate hearing, I have to wonder whether many of the principals who were on this Signal Chat actually understand what would be considered classified information and what would not.
“[Expect Trump supporters to attack Bolton instead of focusing on the message]”
Really? One can definitely expect Bolton to attack Trump, anytime his name is mentioned.
Bolton would attack a turkey skeleton.
The much bigger news is the incendiary devices found at the Tesla dealership in Austin.
Why is Mike Waltz even talking with this Goldberg guy from The Atlantic. The Atlantic is a left-wing rag. Waltz needs to be yelled at and course-corrected. It would be helpful if the administration moved out of DC, away from the seductions of power. A small town in Texas or Oklahoma perhaps.
Oh gee something is going on.
Public acknowledgement that Biden was mentally impaired for most of his administration.
Not so long ago Chinese Spy Balloons flying over military installations left unchallenged and nobody knows nothing. Opps meant weather balloons.
Blinken and Sullivan security clearances revoked.
Hillary Clintons security gets revoked.
Some EU meps caught taking money from CCP operatives.
US pulling back on NATO.
Almost as if there is a US National Security Breech that has occurred and Ratcliffe, Gabbard and Patel have a serious Spy web to uncover.
Nah could never have happened President Sharp as a Tack leaving Classified documents in his Garage, was on top of everything
But then again am sure there was just one too many wedding invitations sent out by error. Trump man Baaaaaaaa….d
If Waltz gets phased out then there is substance to leak story.
If he remains a key administration personnel then there is more going on then public knows about.
Biden was old but this gang are just plain morons.
A “moderate” Trumper I know just jumped off the Trump train because of the attack on Yemen… He believed Trump’s claims about being a candidate for peace.
biden was soiling himself and didn’t know what planet he was on. “He was old” was sold to arrogant leftists to keep the myth alive while the rest of life on earth could see reality. ‘sharp as a tack’. Bro, do better.
The perfect winning administration screwed up! Have your heyday over it. Guess who is still in power. Everybody gets so excited when Trump’s administration screws up! I’m ok with the shear excitement over the screw up too. Whoopi, Trump’s admin screwed up, woopi woopi! Everyone is just waiting to pounce anyway. There is a lot of hatred going around mixed in a lot of TDS, still. It’s still a screw up that should not have happened.
Whoopi and Michael Waltz do the tango.
Michael Waltz sent it to the wrong Goldberg.
Oh yeah, here’s that hypocrisy
The US attacks the Hooties, ex Israel. The Israeli air defense intercepts Hooties ballistic missiles daily. Israel is on the bench. The US doesn’t need Israel. The US isn’t protecting Israel. Egypt, the UAE, the Saudis and other Arab navies might join together along with the US, the British and the French to protect the freedom of navigation in the Red Sea. It’s their interest – not Israel’s interest. JD Vance doesn’t get it. He is a trouble maker, a prsona non grata. That was the massage to the Atlantic.
The Houthis only resumed their missile attacks because Israel refused to allow food, water and electricity to Gaza. Israel is trying to starve the Gazans. Trump could have told Netanyahu to let the food and water through or he’s cut off from all aid. Instead he’s bombing Yemen. I don’t believe he’s decapitated Ansar Allah’s leadership. They survived years of US-funded attacks by Saudi Arabia.
Amygdala: Hamas is a criminal gang, They imposed $15K protection fee on every food truck. They collect 20%/25% protection fees from retailer. They have the guns. The Palestinian are moving to a safe zone. Three divisions will eradicate Hamas in the war zones. The IDF eliminated Hamas leaders and those who replaced them fast. Very fast. Those in the safe zone will get food, water and other supply. Those in war zones will starve. The US and the Arab nations and the Palestinians themselves want Israel to finish off Hamas.
Ethnic cleansing.
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wipe off the cookie crumbs, pull your pants up and get a job.
Hamas cleansing.
You have said many ignorant things, but this might be the cherry on the sundae. Once again you have no idea what you’re talking about. Stop repeating what others say to you from men in white pointy hats.
One if by land, Two if by Sea.
How about this – no justification whatsoever for U.S. military in the sphere of Our Greatest Alley?
Europe is pretty thick about American values and intentions. Goldberg was merely the useful idiot chosen to relay this message:
“I just hate bailing Europe out again,” VP Vance
“I fully share your loathing of European free-loading. It’s PATHETIC,” SecDef Hegseth
Worse of all – Israel.
maybe the prudent action would have been to notify the source to indicate you received this information. This is far better than feeling compelled to notify the world. What was the need to celebrate your find?
It’s Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic – a sworn enemy of Trump.
Trump admin promised transparency. You don’t believe the American people deserve to know that we have a gang of incompetents at the top?
The Hooties are stronger and more sophisticated than Hezbollah. The risk of sinking a US navy ship is high. There were a few close calls. In an era of nuke proliferation one regional power can use their proxies to destroy an enemy, or blackmail the US. It requires a preemptive strike. Attacking the Hooties is a massage to Iran. Why did the Atlantic, a failing liberal magazine, get an inside info about JD Vance.
JD Vance used to write for the Atlantic under a pseudonym.
Why Usha Vance is in Greenland.
Yemen’s GDP is about 1/3 that of Vermont, the smallest US State. Its population is 50x greater. So why are we talking about Houthis doing this or that? They can’t afford to throw rocks by themselves.
Put a TV “personality” in charge of the department of defense and you wreck national security.
Put a TV “personality” in charge of the white house and you wreck the global economy and U.S. reputation.
What did people expect? Curious silence from the regular Trumpers here. Don’t worry guys, it will just get harder and harder to defend the clowns and circus but I’m sure you’ll try…
in that case, let me make some noise
.. military recruitment is up. your family is in debt up to their teeth due to the policies of the first quarter century in this country. if you try to unscrew 25 years of bad policy in 2 months, you’re bound to have some screw-ups. if you didn’t vote for trump, maybe you voted for biden. if that’s the case, maybe you like pretending you don’t know where covid came from or whether or not we should have penises in girls locker rooms. I’m sure this is all very difficult for you.
Military recruitment is up because 18 year olds feel hopeless about an economy where they will never be able to afford a house or even a car.
how about a source citation on that point.
Plus free college. Don’t underestimate the value of that.
Recruitment is up because Pentagon’s racist DEI policy was dropped.
I disagree with you, Phil. I know numerous military families in the area whose kids QUIT the military and wouldn’t re-up the last few years due to insane woke and coddling of the Island of Misfit Human types. Some are now returning.
remember that time when Pete Hegseth accidentally included a journalist in a group text and then the next thing we knew russia was invading ukraine and China was blatantly flying spy balloons over the United states. oh wait …
Seems like there’s a lot more downvoting commies on the site lately..
all those girls at Columbia have more free time on their hands now.
The alternative was the blow job queen of San Francisco and the Hillary-Biden team of Blinken and Sullivan who’d set the world on fire.
bj queens ? why is that a problem?
It’s just not reason enough to elect someone presidentress.
There’s a lot of BJs happening, but it’s between MAGA cultists and Trump/Musk.
Worse is fellating the Prime Minister of Israel.
HaHaHa!!! BJ Queen…
Hear hear good sir!!!! Well said!!!
What an embarrassment. Had this happened under Biden, MAGA would be calling for an immediate impeachment.
MAGA = cult just as mush as progressive lib = cult.
MAGA = AINO (American In Name Only)
Put a disappearing (for weeks?!?) DEI hire (Austin) in charge of Defense Dept.
Put Trannies in charge of.. multiple depts..
Put a communist Cuban immigrant (Mayorkas) in charge of the border & immigration…..
Put a senile, treasonous felon (Biden) in the white house…
And whaddaya get…..
A million dead Ukrainians, $300 billion GONE/stolen/grifted, 12 million illegal aliens, DISASTROUS Afghan Pull-out, $375 billion to John Podesta controlled bank accounts, $1.8 trillion Green New Deal, $4.1 trillion disappeared, etc, etc, etc…
There, I fixed it for ya.
You’re welcome : )
Vs a DUI hire at defense and war plans being treated like an Uber eats order, lol Mish is right, your a bunch of hypocrites
That would be ‘you are or you’re’..
You’re welcome, lol
E pluribus unum … The world and the world’s investment money, in both holdings of US debt and US equities, are now voting on the reliability of America’s leadership, the American constitutional democracy, its rule of law, its institutions, and
its past promises. The recent (since mid Jan)diversion in relative declines of the STOXX vice SPX is not random.
Pete has just accidentally posted on Facebook the D Day battle plans for the invasion of Greenland. hat tip to ZH
Must be the latest administration policy, code-named MATTA – Make America Totally Transparent Always./sarc Seriousy, it’s one big yikes!
Simply a mistake. No big deal. The Houthi’s got bombed. Not surprised at all that Mish, Bolton, and Mr. Clinton are clutching their pearls.
Bolton should be the first to go into Yemen. I would contribute to a go-fund-me to cover the expenses of his equipment, training, and travel expenses.
I’d help, but he thinks he’s so smart that he wouldn’t need training.
Here’s that hypocrisy Mish was on about
KEGseth is a drunk. in over his head. this crowd ain’t america first. it’s imperial war mongering. more of the biden trump obama bush clinton stuff.
These are the merit based hires?
I bet they wished they’d kept a DEI hire around to blame this on.
Maybe they can cancel the Inquisition now:
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/22/politics/defense-department-polygraph-tests-leaks/index.html
This was because of a DUI hire.
Very disappointing that these boobs aren’t pushing all discussions like this to the classified “SIPR” net, that supports conversations up to SECRET. Hegseth needs to re-accomplish required annual COMSEC training!
This is Jack’s complete lack of surprise.
Seems a real simple bright line might be to ask, ‘Would I put my social security number into this chat?’
“Lock him up, lock him up…”
That’s all I need to hear for the next 3.75 years. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
Unless Hegseth was on another bender. Then he needs help, and we should excuse his errors as they aren’t his fault LOL
Who is it you want to lock up? It can’t be Trump because he wasn’t on this chat.
Why Does This NOT come as a Surprise?
Amateur hour!
So how did Goldberg get “included.” Someone at DoD or elsewhere along the chain definitely “included” him … How would a TDS journo get ahold of this? Remember he foisted the “suckers and losers” hoax. He was fed that info by someone. Its not like your email autofilling. Why would he be on anyone’s email? Or Signal app?
Using the app is the bigger issue. There are channels over which they could have discussed this securely. They didn’t.
Some suggest the DoD does not trust regular channels. Others say to ensure it’s not recorded at all.
Those are the 2 theories I have heard.
I have no idea
Does not trust regular channels or…convenience. The secure means of communication may require everyone getting in a SIPRNet room(s) to have conversations live. Who has time for that?
Or a combination of trust, convenience, and ability to delete the record at will. Signal lets you delete a message you sent for yourself or for everyone. You can also delete the entire chat. Of course, everyone else will still have your text message unless you delete it for everyone, which again doesn’t work if someone has taken a screenshot.
How about because they are just f-ing stupid!
Exactly. How did he get included. I’m having Vindman flashbacks.
It could be a stupid, but honest, error. Hillary did stuff like this on purpose and people got killed.
But you have to wonder, how does the Editor in Chief of the Democrats Bible, and the rag that hates Trump even more than the NYT, get included?
Mish is so quick to jump to conclusions before all the facts are known. I think he might be getting TDS.
Ah, classic example of the “MAGA denial and hypocrisy” Mish referred to.
“Stupid, but honest, error”? So Hegseth didn’t know he was in charge of and discussing a major military strike ON a third party unsecured app?
We’ve got ourselves a winner of the day, folks LOL
Hopefully you are saving all this for therapy sessions. If you accept things like this as a fractured media and propaganda organs present them, that’s about your only option.
look Im conservative, but we have to hold our leaders accountable no matter what ‘team’ we are on. This was bad. This whole ‘TDS’ stuff is is a scapegoat. Call out BS even when your side does it. We elected someone unqualified and unprofessional and we are surprised that we get this degree of screwups?
I miss when politicians take responsibility.
Simply having the discussion on the app broke federal law.
It is very easy when you dont know what you are doing to push a button you didnt want to push and not even know you pushed it.
Hillary’s big red button with Sergei?
Hopefully that doesn’t include the nuclear launch buttons!
Oh, this whole thing is deep in Mad Magazine, “Spy Vs. Spy” territory.
Do Signal chat groups have separate “admin” users, one of whom (absent Signal app bugs) must have added Goldberg to the group? Do Signal groups have a log of who changed what, when? Was this a test of Goldberg, and/or using him to feed disinformation to unfriendlies? Was this a test of an admin? Did Goldberg raise a warning and who would he have notified of the issue?
One might wonder how Goldberg would have been treated if it were WWII and he did not raise any red flags.
We can count on never knowing any of this.
Yes.
He was in with JD Vance. Vance wrote for the Atlantic with a pseudonym.
Slowly but surely Vice President Vance’s Maga/Trump loyalist image is being built up. Color me a conspiracy nut, it looks to me that Vance is being setup to be the next president.
The betting will have to be Trump running for a 3rd term no matter what vs. Trump brushing the courts to the side and going full dictator vs Trumps family creating a monarchy and we just get one Trump after another vs JD using his billionaire connections to muscle into the top dictator spot when Donald gets sick … bets anyone?
Nothing says strength like attacking one of the poorest countries in the world.
After the beating taken by the US’ best proxy that money could buy, the untrained, the US has to come out swinging at some poor sob. Only carrier groups are such sitting ducks for hypersonic missiles…
I’m no fan of President Trump and his inexperienced officials.
But with this article, Mr. Goldberg has exposed holes in our national security.
Better he should have reported it to the Senate privately, imo.
Apparently you’re unfamiliar with Mr. Goldberg. I’ll take his side on this one, though. He’s under no obligation to cover for Trump administration ineptitude. It was good that he let the news out. There’s always the possibility that including Goldberg was not an accident.
Yes, it’s very curious. This is the last journalist anyone would have on their contact list.
The idiots on Idiot Mountain have reached their first plateau. Can it get any worse? Are you kidding?