El Niño Will Arrive Soon, It May Cost the World Trillions of Dollars

Image courtesy of Christopher Callahan, an Earth system scientist at Dartmouth College.

Wired reports The Looming El Niño Could Cost the World Trillions of Dollars

TROUBLE IS BREWING in the sea. The Pacific Ocean has transitioned away from La Niña conditions, when a long band of cold water forms off the coast of South America, and is barreling toward its counterpart: an El Niño, when a warm band emerges instead. Scientists expect El Niño to arrive in the next few months, with a 55 percent chance of it being a particularly strong event. 

The economic consequences, researchers report today, could be a $3 trillion hemorrhage over the next several years, with low-income tropical countries getting hit especially hard. Writing in the journal Science, they determined that the El Niños of 1982-83 and 1997-98 led to worldwide losses of $4.1 trillion and $5.7 trillion, respectively, which dragged on for more than five years after the climatic events had dissipated. By the end of this century, the cumulative bill for El Niños could come to $84 trillion. “There’s an economic legacy of El Niño in GDP [gross domestic product] growth,” says Christopher Callahan, an Earth system scientist at Dartmouth College who coauthored the paper. “That primarily occurs in the countries in the tropics that are strongly affected by El Niño. But this effect is quite large.”

As El Niño waters warm in the Pacific, tropical countries bear the bulk of the knock-on effects. Peru in particular tends to suffer heavy rainfall during an El Niño, which damages infrastructure and waterlogs crops. Normally, upwelling off of Peru’s coast brings up nutrients that feed fisheries, but that churning begins to slow during El Niño. In addition, marine heatwaves kill off fish, snatching away a source of income. “So you get the loss of fishing off the coast of Peru during these events, you get infrastructure being flooded, you get extreme heat,” says Callahan. “All these things sort of stack on top of one another.”

But farther to the east, El Niño can have the opposite effect, kicking off severe drought in the Amazon rainforest, which is already devastated by human development and burning. A drought could help push parts of the Amazon closer to a tipping point at which they will transform from rainforest into grassland—an ecological point of no return. The loss of trees will imperil species and lessen the Amazon’s ability to sequester carbon. 

Climate Change Stress Test 

Much of the article focuses on the idea of a “stress test for climate change”. So be prepared for a barrage of such views.

Callahan sees this El Niño as a stress test for a warming planet, as climate change makes heat waves, wildfires, droughts, and rainfall more intense. But it’s also an opportunity for governments to shore up their preparations for extreme weather. “These things like hardening your infrastructure and investing in wildfire management are going to be necessary,” says Callahan. “And so we think there’s really sort of a win-win here.”

I am hard pressed to believe the US economy will suffer a loss of 2.5 percent to 5.0 percent of per capita GDP given the return of wetter weather to California. 

Canada, Australia and especially Argentina allegedly benefit, while the EU is mostly unchanged. 

And much of that depends on the strength of the El Niño.

Common Sense to the Forefront

Meanwhile, Germany is Turning Against the EU’s Green New Deal in what I believe represents common sense to the forefront.

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DolyG
DolyG
2 years ago
“I am hard pressed to believe the US economy will suffer a loss of 2.5 percent to 5.0 percent of per capita GDP given the return of wetter weather to California.”
And the chart that argues your case is where, exactly?
ohno
ohno
2 years ago
So nothing but ‘the end’ talk because CA turned into a desert and now we’re going to go bankrupt because it’s going to rain? Who comes up with this crap?
GruesomeHarvest
GruesomeHarvest
2 years ago
I’m a Malthusian. I believe that 8 billion people, or worse 10 billion, is too many for the planet. This large population growth has occurred because of modern agriculture such as hybrid seeds ( prone to diseases) and the heavy use of pesticides and fertilizers. Most of the developed world have a fertility rate that is below replacement. Thus, they are on a sustainable path. It’s the 3rd world, specifically Africa, where the population grow is out of control. If your interested in the environment, you should be for the control of population (or at least not encouraging it through aid and immigration policy). Any aid should be contingent on strict population control measures. Everything else if just an excuse for control and power by idiot politicians.
Christoball
Christoball
2 years ago
I live in an area that used to have a lot of wildlife. In a few short years I see more Tesla’s than wild animals and bugs. Something is going on and I would appreciate others observations. It has been reported that spinning windmills are acting as Giant Fly Swatters that are removing as much as 10% of the insect population. Some would say this is a good thing because they don’t like bugs, but bugs are bird food and many birds are going hungry and starving to death as a result. Windmills are placed in wind corridors which are also migration corridors for birds and insects to cover long distances more easily. This migration is essential to their survival and reproduction. Vaccines and pharmaceuticals that are flushed through the body and end up in the waterways are also affecting wildlife reproduction. DDT was so harmful because it weakened egg shells of birds and sabotages procreation. Medical remediation’s are also entering the biosphere and interrupting animal posterity.
I am telling you folks, CO2 is not the problem but is an excuse for the Greed Brokers to cover their tracks concerning literally poisoning the Earth.
PapaDave
PapaDave
2 years ago
Reply to  Christoball
Its not just birds. Its all species that are in decline. For the last 100 years. And its for a lot of reasons, but it’s mostly mankind. Windmills are a drop in the bucket in this story.
And of course, its just not birds; it is all species of life other than man (so far). Once we have killed off all the other species, we will be next. Its hard to grow crops without pollinators. And we won’t be eating meat if there are no more animals.
And yes; mankind’s contribution of additional CO2 and other GHGs are part of the overall problem.
RonJ
RonJ
2 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
The WEFers don’t want us eating meat and are wanting to shut down a number of farmers to make them “sustainable.”
At only 400 parts per million, carbon dioxide is a drop in the bucket.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
2 years ago
Reply to  Christoball
In addition, the resistance put up by the windmills is slowing the rotation of the Earth.
PapaDave
PapaDave
2 years ago
A topic that warms my heart; and the planet. The world is going to keep warming for the rest of this century thanks to the extra greenhouse gasses we have already added to the atmosphere. And we will keep adding a lot more GHG for many more decades, which will extend the warming into the next century as well. Anthropogenic global warming is a very long term event.
In contrast, El Nino’s and La Nina’s are short term events (1-3 years) that are merely rounding errors in the big picture. Both change weather patterns for good and bad as has already been outlined. In addition, La Nina’s cause a slight cooling in the planet overall and El Nino’s cause a slight warming. The last El Nino was 2016 and it added enough warming to make 2016 the warmest year since man started keeping records. Since then we have had three successive La Nina’s which is why we have yet to break the 2016 record (though 2020 came close). As long as we keep adding more GHG, we will eventually break the 2016 record, El Nino year or not.
If we experience a strong El Nino this year or next, it could make headlines as a new “hottest” year. If so, the media will have a field day, predicting the end of the world and what not. Which will lead to an increased push for less fossil fuel use and more renewable energy. Which means even less spending on oil exploration. Which means tighter oil supplies and higher prices and more cash flow for shareholders.
The world is already spending more on renewables each year than on fossil fuels. A new hottest year could accelerate that trend.
Which is why I am heavily invested in oil and gas companies (particularly Canadian and some American companies). They are still gushing cash at $70 WTI and that will only increase as prices inevitably rise.
Regarding the hit to the economy from La Nina and El Nino, as mentioned, it varies, and it is short term, because these events don’t last very long.
The really big cost to the economy is going to be from global warming over the coming centuries. And it will be huge.
As always, nothing I can do about it, other than accept it, and profit from it.
Call_Me
Call_Me
2 years ago
“A drought could help push parts of the Amazon closer to a tipping point at which they will transform from rainforest into grassland—an
ecological point of no return. The loss of trees will imperil species
and lessen the Amazon’s ability to sequester carbon.”
If one is intent on distilling a complex system of complex systems down to carbon, one should at least know that grasslands are a significant sink and the land use change from them to cropland is a significant, if overlooked, man-made change on the environment.
That said, ENSO is much-hyped, but there are larger players in the arena of global circulations and the ITCZ. The AMOC is worth reading about, even if one has a fear of acronyms-
Call_Me_Al
Mjs357
Mjs357
2 years ago
I’m scared. I think it’s time for climate lockdowns. We should heed the warnings if the WEF, John Kerry, and spread the word to prepare for a climate apocalypse on Al Gore’s amazing Internet. Only a carbon tax could possibly save us. Just more studies, reporting, fake news that’s going to cost us all more money.
Dr Funkenstein
Dr Funkenstein
2 years ago
Reply to  Mjs357
Does that mean no more private jet flights for Lurch and his ilk?
Mjs357
Mjs357
2 years ago
Reply to  Dr Funkenstein
Unfortunately, no. Remember, they are the “select group of human beings” sent to save the planet… it’s almost extraterrestrial.
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
It would be more useful to study the effects of past El Ninos on changes in governments in the affected countries to see if there is a correlation. Peru and Brazil could become unstable for example.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
2 years ago
Tipping points of the permanent kind are an interesting thing.
I was pointing out to a friend around an age ago that there is 1000 meters of ice over where we were planning to build Chicago so I guess we’ll have to buy further South.
PapaDave
PapaDave
2 years ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
You must be planning on living a long time. Based on the natural cycles, there should be a 1000 m of ice (or more) over Chicago in about 80,000 years.
Of course, those natural cycles are being interrupted by mankind. So it makes the prediction more difficult.
We are only 6000 years into the current cooling cycle, and mankind has already reversed it in less than 200 years.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
2 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Papa, finally your guilt overwhelms me.
You should have stopped it while you had the opportunity.
Now just make yourself enough money to buy a long-term habitable island.
As a friend once pointed out to me – if you’re standing in the middle of railroad tracks, and a train is bearing down on you, get off the tracks.
Just another version of – if you find yourself at the bottom of a hole, stop digging.
PapaDave
PapaDave
2 years ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker

No idea what you are talking about. Try again.

MBA SOFA
MBA SOFA
2 years ago
Absurd “investigation”. The report speaks of enormous loses if we compare with ideal conditions. We can talk about trillions of gains if we compare with a total draught.
I had billions of losses because I don´t bought Bitcoin at ten cents, but I had enormous gains because I don´t bought Bitcoins at 60.000$.
This report is stupid statistics for brainwashed greens.
fed
fed
2 years ago
billybobjr
billybobjr
2 years ago
Reply to  fed
Great Link
Thanks
RonJ
RonJ
2 years ago
The rule of thumb here in Southern California is that brush fire season could be bad, because we got little rain, thus the brush is dried out, or it could be bad, because we got a lot of rain, which created a lot fuel for brush fires to burn. It’s always expected to be one or the other.
L.A. got 28.03 inches of rain this rain year (July 2022-June 2023). Basically, what a good El Nino year would produce. Exceptional, for the fact that it was not an El Nino year. As far as i am aware, no one predicted it either.
The record high temperature for L.A. on May 21, is 99F in 1883. There is still a small but significant number of record highs that exist from the late 1800’s.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
More dangerous to the planet may be variations in sun-spot activity, which might be a major cause of global climate variation–the Russians pointed this out about 20-30 years ago, but we can’t believe anything they say. /sarc.
No matter, the IPCC deals with solar variation by the following, and accordingly ignores it, even though the sun is the #major# factor in the world’s climate:
“…Solar activity since 1900 was high but not exceptional compared to the past 9000 years (high confidence).
The average magnitude and variability of volcanic aerosol forcing since
1900 have not been unusual compared to the past 2500 years (medium confidence). {2.2.1, 2.2.2}…”
How ‘high’ does solar activity have to be to change climate over 120 years? And if, as some scientists believe, we are heading into a minimum, wouldn’t that be worth consideration?
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
2 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
“High Confidence” is when the crew pulls off the con and the marks never know what hit them.
ThatsNotAll
ThatsNotAll
2 years ago
Will spending trillions of dollars prevent natural climate oscillations? Will spending trillions of dollars prevent floods, storms, hurricanes, tornados, earthquakes and fires?
Why can’t the madmen running the world just say they want to spend trillions of dollars? Why do they have to lie so badly to do what they will do anyway?
PapaDave
PapaDave
2 years ago
Reply to  ThatsNotAll
You misunderstand. Its not the natural climate oscillations like El Nino and La Nina that matter. They are rounding errors in the big picture. And it would be a waste to attempt to stop them. Rather, trillions are being spent to slow the unnatural warming being caused by humans. Where have you been for the last 3 decades?
Matt3
Matt3
2 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Sure. A couple degrees warmers and we are all dead.
I’ve been told for 20 years that skiing out west would not be possible and somehow it snows every year.
PapaDave
PapaDave
2 years ago
Reply to  Matt3
Whoa. It still snows? That’s brilliant! I guess you should tell the 195 countries that signed onto the climate accords, the boards and executives of all the worlds major companies and the tens of thousands of scientists working in the field that the whole thing is a hoax because it still snows.
There are a lot of idiots out there. Some are reporters and politicians who exaggerate the issue. Some are activists who try to stop traffic or glue themselves to buildings. And some are morons who will deny that global warming is even happening.
Then, there are those who are wise enough to understand the situation and profit from it.
prumbly
prumbly
2 years ago
It’s astonishing how many young people now believe that bad weather events are all caused by “climate change”, and climate change is all caused by evil fossil fuels. I was talking to some young Germans the other day. Big mistake. The level of indoctrination was off the charts. But ask them to cite some actual evidence for their beliefs, or ask them what caused devastating weather events in ancient times and you get crickets.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
Reply to  prumbly
How, exactly, does one prove an hypothesis of ‘climate change’? Does the mean global temperature increase? No, that would be global warming, and that terminology got stopped because…. ??? Wouldn’t you like to know?
IMHO, a climate-change hypothesis would seem to imply that the variance in climate is changing. It could be more, or it could be less. Think of it as more extreme hurricanes, or less extreme hurricanes. However, they would have to be compared to the variance prior to climate change. That would be a normal distribution of weather over the last 100 years, and probably more.
Are you starting to see the problem yet? Is the climate-change hypothesis truly ‘provable’? Who the FU(K knows?
What if we have more, or less hurricanes, or the same number of hurricanes per year? Some stronger, some weaker… They all work as ‘climate change’.
How about more or less rainfall per year? More or less annual average temperatures?
Logically, any climate event becomes evidence of climate change for the unthinking public. The end result; you don’t need to test the hypothesis, just convince the public and politicians by weather events, even if they are normal.
MikeC711
MikeC711
2 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
The problem is that projections have been horribly far off. Whose projections do we go with. If we take no action and things are 2% worse than projection … is that really 15% better and the projection was way off? Is it really 20% worse (and again, the projection was off). If we can’t measure the impact of any changes we tyrannically mandate … how do we handle it?
billybobjr
billybobjr
2 years ago
Reply to  MikeC711
Not only horrbly far off but they have been caught lying manipulating data errors in the equations they used and so on .
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  billybobjr
As lizard people will, and so on…
billybobjr
billybobjr
2 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
How many Tropical disturbances went undetected before satellites now you can have one appear for a 24
hour period then be gone in the middle of the ocean but it gets counted when 50 years ago was undetected. Then they say we have a increase
in activity but they weren’t counting them all then because they couldn’t . Same with a global temp and ice extents ect. our window
is so short with any kind of accurate data we have no idea what the natural variations long term have been . Science does
say that the earth has been warmer many times in the past and man wasn’t here so that takes him out of the equation . That is
if you believe the data is accurate from those long term measures of that so called science .
RonJ
RonJ
2 years ago
Reply to  prumbly
“It’s astonishing how many young people now believe…”
It’s the Bernays-Goebbles effect. Desmet calls it Mass Formation.
billybobjr
billybobjr
2 years ago
Hilarious , The planets natural oscillation climate from el nino to el nina to neutral in this area is a problem
but you have to be in one because it is a baseline average temp in this area. The variation has probably been going on for
many millions of years but since we have satellites for the last 50 we can measuer it. Lets build in a desert and then
complain about droughts it gets more bizarre by the day.
hamsaplo
hamsaplo
2 years ago
So now we seem to be able to predict these massive events, let’s please do better planning than standing there and wringing our hands and whining “The Climate Change! Oh God the Climate Change! and The Humanity! All being drowned by the Climate Change!”
If you know the hill above you is about to collapse due to heavy rain, please get the hell out. Because the rest of us will be using you as an excuse to ban fossil fuels.
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  hamsaplo
“Someone should DO something!”, everybody says.
Siliconguy
Siliconguy
2 years ago
Oh come on. El Niño events are common. The world didn’t end with the last one, nor the one before that.
“It is thought that there have been at least 30 El Niño events since 1900, with the 1982–83, 1997–98 and 2014–16 events among the strongest on record.[13][14] Since 2000, El Niño events have been observed in 2002–03, 2004–05, 2006–07, 2009–10, 2014–16,[13] and 2018–19.[26][27]
Major ENSO events were recorded in the years 1790–93, 1828, 1876–78, 1891, 1925–26, 1972–73, 1982–83, 1997–98, and 2014″
The morons in the media don’t bother to even do the slightest bit of research. Replacing them all with an AI would be an improvement. AI vs NS (Natural Stupidity.)

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