Fed Chair Jerome Powell Pledges to “Act With Resolve” to Beat Inflation

Powell July 27, 2022 FOMC Image

In Jackson Hole, Wyoming, Fed Chair Jerome Powell gave a hawkish speech today on Monetary Policy and Price Stability.

Key Highlights 

  • Restoring price stability will take some time and requires using our tools forcefully to bring demand and supply into better balance.
  • Reducing inflation is likely to require a sustained period of below-trend growth.
  • There will very likely be some softening of labor market conditions. 
  • While higher interest rates, slower growth, and softer labor market conditions will bring down inflation, they will also bring some pain to households and businesses. A failure to restore price stability would mean far greater pain.
  • The labor market is particularly strong, but it is clearly out of balance, with demand for workers substantially exceeding the supply of available workers. Inflation is running well above 2 percent, and high inflation has continued to spread through the economy. 
  • While the lower inflation readings for July are welcome, a single month’s improvement falls far short of what the Committee will need to see before we are confident that inflation is moving down.
  • Restoring price stability will likely require maintaining a restrictive policy stance for some time. The historical record cautions strongly against prematurely loosening policy. 
  • The successful Volcker disinflation in the early 1980s followed multiple failed attempts to lower inflation over the previous 15 years. A lengthy period of very restrictive monetary policy was ultimately needed to stem the high inflation and start the process of getting inflation down to the low and stable levels that were the norm until the spring of last year. Our aim is to avoid that outcome by acting with resolve now.

Inflation Expectations Nonsense

Powell also gave praise to Ben Bernanke and totally disproved economic theory regarding inflation expectations.

The public’s expectations about future inflation can play an important role in setting the path of inflation over time. Today, by many measures, longer-term inflation expectations appear to remain well anchored. That is broadly true of surveys of households, businesses, and forecasters, and of market-based measures as well. But that is not grounds for complacency, with inflation having run well above our goal for some time.

If the public expects that inflation will remain low and stable over time, then, absent major shocks, it likely will. 

Inflation Expectations are Crashing. So What? It Doesn’t Matter.

Inflation expectations are a ridiculous concept. Two independent Fed research papers accurately make that conclusion. Fed studies also debunked the widely believe Phillips Curve.

Powell’s comments are theoretically nonsense and actual Fed studies prove it. 

On August 8, I commented Inflation Expectations are Crashing. So What? It Doesn’t Matter.

Please consider Why Do We Think That Inflation Expectations Matter for Inflation? (And Should We?) by the Divisions of Research & Statistics and Monetary Affairs Federal Reserve Board.

Here are a few direct quotes. The last bullet point is the most important one.

  • The direct evidence for an expected inflation channel was never very strong.
  • It is an irony of history that, when Phelps and Friedman sought to justify their proposed theoretical specifications, they were faced with the uncomfortable fact that empirical Phillips curves appeared to be remarkably stable.
  • These techniques are similar in spirit to those employed in the 1990s to estimate new-Keynesian models; hence, they suffer from the same sorts of problems—discussed below—that attend empirical estimates of those models.
  • Friedman’s derivation of the expectations-augmented Phillips curve implies that the real product wage should be strongly countercyclical (recall that in this model firms are always assumed to be on their labor demand curves). In particular, Friedman states as a matter of fact that “. . . selling prices of products typically respond to an unanticipated rise in demand faster than prices of factors of production,” which would in turn imply the empirical prediction that the price Phillips curve is steeper than the wage Phillips curve. However, in U.S. data this prediction is completely at odds with the evidence.
  • Most standard tests of the new-Keynesian Phillips curve suffer from such severe potential misspecification issues or such profound weak identification problems as to provide no evidence one way or the other regarding the importance of expectations (much the same statement applies to empirical tests that use survey measures of expected inflation).
  • What little we know about firms’ price-setting behavior suggests that many tend to respond to cost increases only when they actually show up and are visible to their customers, rather than in a preemptive fashion

Fed Studies Debunk the Phillips Curve

Both studies were done by Fed staffers.

Yet, Fed Chairs Janet Yellen and Jerome Powell did not believe the Fed’s own study.

If Inflation Expectations Mattered

If inflation expectations mattered, the above chart would not exist.

Let that sink in.

From 2013 to 2021 inflation expectations averaged well over three percent. Even with the Fed pumping hard with QE, the Fed could not get measured inflation over two percent!

How pathetic is that?

It’s not really lack of inflation of course, but rather how senseless economists view it.

Factoring in home prices and asset bubbles there was massive inflation, just not where clueless economists wanted it.

Also consider A Fed Economist Concludes the Widely Believed Inflations Expectations Theory is Nonsense.

Here are some excerpts from the actual study:

The direct evidence for an expected inflation channel was never very strong. Most empirical tests concerned themselves with the proposition that there was no permanent Phillips curve tradeoff, in the sense that the coefficients on lagged inflation in an inflation equation summed to one.

In addition, most standard tests of the new-Keynesian Phillips curve suffer from such severe potential misspecification issues or such profound weak identification problems as to provide no evidence one way or the other regarding the importance of expectations (much the same statement applies to empirical tests that use survey measures of expected inflation).

What little we know about firms’ price-setting behavior suggests that many tend to respond to cost increases only when they actually show up and are visible to their customers, rather than in a preemptive fashion.

It is far, far better and much safer to have a firm anchor in nonsense than to put out on the troubled seas of thought. John Kenneth Galbraith (1958).

Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example. Mark Twain, The Tragedy of Pudd’nhead Wilson (1894)

One should not need a study to prove the obvious. And it’s obvious that inflation expectation theory is nonsensical.

The reason has to do with the way inflation is calculated. 

What Can the Fed Do About the Price of Food, Medicine, Gasoline, or Rent?

CPI Weights from BLS chart by Mish

On March 20, I asked What Can the Fed Do About the Price of Food, Medicine, Gasoline, or Rent?

What the Fed Can and Cannot Do

  • The Fed cannot directly influence the price of anything because it cannot produce either goods or services.
  • The Fed can reduce or increase demand where demand is elastic by raising or lowering the cost of money.

Elastic vs Inelastic Demand

  • Elastic items total only 19.59%.
  • Inelastic items total a whopping 80.41%.

This is why inflation Expectations theory the Fed abides by is total nonsense.

People will not rent two homes if they perceive prices will rise. Nor will people stop paying rent and wait for declines in they believe prices will fall.

The same applies to buying food, gas etc.

Stupidity Well Anchored: Absurdity of Inflation Expectations in Graphic Form

I discussed the silliness of inflations expectations theory in Stupidity Well Anchored: Absurdity of Inflation Expectations in Graphic Form

Asset Irony

People will rush to buy stocks in a bubble if they think prices will rise. They will hold off buying stocks if they expect prices will go down.

People will buy houses to rent or fix up if they think home prices will rise. They will hold off housing speculation if they expect prices will drop.

The very things where expectations do matter are the very things the Fed ignores.

Demand destruction will occur in the small subset of elastic items plus housing and stocks.

Except as related to recreation and eating out, rate hikes will not impact food, energy, or shelter, the overwhelming majority of the CPI.

Stupidity Still Well Anchored

Here we are with Powell, Barkin and other Fed presidents putting a spotlight on expectations, having ignored the third massive stock market bubble in just over 20 years.

Meanwhile, “there can be little doubt that poor people…are the chief sufferers of inflation.”

Asset Irony

People will rush to buy stocks in a bubble if they think prices will rise. They will hold off buying stocks if they expect prices will go down.

People will buy houses to rent or fix up if they think home prices will rise. They will hold off housing speculation if they expect prices will drop.

The very things where expectations do matter are the very things the Fed ignores.

Demand destruction will occur in the small subset of elastic items plus housing and stocks.

Except as related to recreation and eating out, rate hikes will not impact food, energy, or shelter, the overwhelming majority of the CPI.

It seems crazy that economists cannot see the obvious, even when its pointed out repeatedly.

The reason is as noted above: “It is far, far better and much safer to have a firm anchor in nonsense than to put out on the troubled seas of thought. John Kenneth Galbraith (1958).

One Agreement With Powell

I do have one key agreement with Powell, stressed repeatedly over the past six months.

On August 19, I repeated my message from earlier this year: Expect a Long Period of Weak Growth, Whether or Not It’s Labeled Recession

Powell is in agreement “Reducing inflation is likely to require a sustained period of below-trend growth.”

Yep, and it’s started. We are likely in recession now, but label it however you like. 

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jiminy
jiminy
1 year ago
I wonder if Biden’s aggressive fiscal policy is a factor in the fed’s hawkish talk. Financing the new spending could aggrevate inflation?
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago

Gross Domestic Product: Implicit Price Deflator (A191RI1Q225SBEA)

Q2 2022: 9.0
Q1 2022: 8.3
Q4 2021: 7.1
Q3 2021: 5.9
Q2 2021: 6.2

Where’s the slow down? That’s not progress. That’s stagflation. Stocks are going to get crushed.

Powell: “Restoring price stability will likely require maintaining a restrictive policy stance for some time.” That’s an understatement.

vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
yup. mish got it wrong. this ain’t a recession. it’s stagflation. fed gonna jack up rates and run off their balance sheet to try and tame it. will take years, imho.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
What happens when the FED does QE at 2-3% and QT at 4-6%? There’s a reason why the Fed did maturity contraction back in 2019.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
The Sept. 2019 repo spike was due to an economic error. Banks are not intermediaries. The IOR interest rate inversion shrinks the nonbanks, shrinking the supply of loan-funds.
This Romulan cloaking device (payment of interest on
interbank demand deposits, on a “Master Account” identified by a Primary
nine-digit Routing Transit Number, RTN), vastly exceeded the level of short-term interest rates which was explicitly illegal per the FSRRA of 2006.

Link: “The 2006 Financial Services Regulatory Relief
Act gives the Fed permission to pay interest on reserves. The IOR rate was
always higher than “the general level of short-term interest rates”
which is imposed in the Law. “A Legal Barrier to Higher Interest
Rates,” The Wall Street Journal, Sept. 28, p. A13.

Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
“From January 2018 until September 2019, the Fed reduced its total assets by just $600BN from $4.4tn to $3.8tn, at which point the repo market broke. As QT progressed, upward pressure on overnight rates moved EFF and SOFR above their floors. By September 2019, reserves amounted to $1.4tn. Demand for ON RRP borrowing was near zero: the upward spike in SOFR demonstrated reserves were clearly not ample at this level. The Fed reversed course and expanded its balance sheet by lending in the repo market to set a ceiling on rates, and launched NOT QE, which was of course, QE. The floor system was back to a corridor.”
Jerome Powell thinks banks
are financial intermediaries:

link to bis.org

Currently the IOR is barely lower than the 1mo Treasury rate. If it inverts relative to short-term rates in the future, look out, it will induce nonbank disintermediation.

vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
yes. the balance sheet of fed was too big. now it’s ridiculous. AND don trump jawboned and abused powell, to back down. and he did. just like LBJ did to william mcchesney martin. LBJ even physically beat him in his ranch living room.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
As important as ‘size’ is, the duration mix (short <1yr), intermediate (1-5yrs), and long (>5yrs) bothers me more. I don’t have the actual #s, but in 2019 the Fed took action, and by 2020, there was $2.2 trillion in long. Now, long is five+/- trillion. QT is being carried out on MBS–long and risky.
You think they might have a problem as interest rates go up?
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Regardless of what he does, prices will not return to where they were 18 months ago barring a long and deep recession or a depression.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
And here’s the kicker, stocks may end up doing very badly for the next decade because if inflation remains high, interest rates will continue to climb and bonds will be the safe haven for money. Imagine guaranteed bond rates of 15% for 10 years.
Cue for the commentators that will say “it will never happen because…” (I already have my response prepared)
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
What happened to bond rates with Volker?
A bigger problem is the loss of value associated with long-term bonds issued at 2-3% and current market yields are at 15%
FYI, people thought I was crazy buying risk free 30-yr Australian Govt bonds at 15-16% in 1983. I sold out about ten years later when yields got close to 7%.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab

Professor emeritus Leland
James Pritchard (Ph.D., Chicago Economics 1933, M.S. Statistics, Syracuse) never minced
his words, and in May 1980 pontificated that:

“The Depository
Institutions Monetary Control Act will have a pronounced effect in reducing
money velocity”.

Why? In short, because
banks don’t loan out deposits. Deposits are the result of lending. All
bank-held savings are lost to both consumption and investment, indeed to any
type of payment or expenditure. The complete deregulation of interest rates led to secular stagnation.

N-gNp went to 19.2% in the 1st qtr. 1981, the FFR to 22%, and AAA Corporates
to 15.49%. My prediction for AAA
corporate yields for 1981 was 15.48%.

I used bank debits:
Analysis of bank debits as a business cycle indicator (richmond.edu)
JRM
JRM
1 year ago
Watch a .75 raise in interest rates!!!
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Not much investment talk here today with the Dow down 1000 pts.
How are all the gold holders doing? Backing up the truck and buying the dip?
How about those here who kept criticizing my oil and gas investments? The S&P energy sector is up 49.4% so far this year. I guess
Anyone starting to buy Hydrogen companies yet? I have taken a few small positions so far. Just to check out the opportunities.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
preferred stocks have been decent past few months. some juicy dividends. i especially like the energy sector preferreds. and the common stock of them too.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
Nice. I am not into preferreds. I can get 8%-10% dividend returns from gas stocks like FANG and TOU plus fantastic upside potential. And I am expecting the same in 2023 from many of my oil stocks, many of which have promised to distribute 50% to 100% of Free Cash Flow once their debts are paid down.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
those are great stocks, i agree with you. and agree on free cash flow of oil………….but i like to also have a slug of my money in preferreds at over 10%, to 12% with preference on dividends and rock solid movement on daily swings. there is a good arbitrage too, with some preferred closed end funds where the dumb money doesn’t really trade them if rates really go against me. there is a good lead time to get out. been doing this for decades. and now that rates have made them juicy again, and also with beaten up commons with high dividends, things are looking good for savers again. been a long time coming. also like MO etc with high dividends. i also play fast growers like TSLA and FSLR…………..
Jack
Jack
1 year ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
I looked into preferred a while back and did not bite – but maybe worth a second look.
Which preferred do you prefer?
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
Nice.
Scooot
Scooot
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
“Not much investment talk here today with the Dow down 1000 pts”
Most of it happened after the UK closed and its a bank holiday on Monday so Tuesday will be interesting if it gains momentum. With costs and rates rising the last thing people want now is their savings to whittle away.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  Scooot
I take advantage of the volatility. It provides great short term trading opportunities.
TheCaptain
TheCaptain
1 year ago
The fed talks like the economy is a machine with controls and levers that always work a certain way even though history shows that they do until they don’t and then boy don’t they.
This is like an auto mechanic trying to maintain the engine at high RPMs with a turbo and 86 octane (garbage) gas. Sure, you can make it scream right up until the point that it throws a rod through the side of the crankcase. IF you just let the engine run at a reasonable speed without trying to max the output then it would last forever. Why would you turn our economic engine into something with 12:1 compression and a beefy cam? Why does it need to be goosed all the time KNOWING that it will eventually fail catastrophically?
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  TheCaptain
You could label the interest rate knob “Foolishness Damping”
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
Reply to  TheCaptain
the fed “jaw bones” to fool folks who do NOT understand they have only ONE mandate. it’s not the economy. it’s keeping their owners, in high cotton. most get fooled for past century plus.
8dots
8dots
1 year ago
Fred : Claudia Sahm recession indicator : (-)0.3
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  8dots
Looking at a three-month average of the (seasonally adjusted) unemployment rate, relative to the previous 12 months (1/2% higher), can help to spot an inflection point. Note this presumes recessions are concurrent with unemployment. Her results are consistent, however Mish’s sales approach is probably better, IMHO, since sales drive orders for new product/and hiring.
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
1 year ago
I am starting to think that the Fed believes the main driver of current inflation that they can influence is out-of-control Federal spending. Significantly higher interest rates, along with no QE will hopefully force some semblance of spending discipline upon them, once interest costs eat up a much larger part of the budget.
At some point the government will have to either reduce spending or raise taxes – both of which are deflationary.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
calling FED clueless is silly. might make some feel good about themselves. FED has only one goal. to keep her owners, the bankers of nyc in high cotton. they have broadcast their intentions to raise rates and runoff balance sheet since end of 2021. i took them seriously as inflation from the money printing from the black swan event, the pandemic, went parabolic. those folks calling for deflation have been dead wrong. it’s inflation at best, and more likely stagflation for the next few years if not decade. i think mish call on fed hikes really missed this year. like many. mish, you nailed the r/e bubble popping 15 years ago, and the r/e popping now. but the fed watching acumen fell flat. nobodies perfect. i think you are one of the best economic bloggers. getting r/e bubbles right is great stuff.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
It’s a lot worse than anyone realizes. It’s not just 60 million boomers hitting 65 in 2030, it’s the physical (and mental) issues that come with an aging population. Throw in covid, drug addiction, alcoholism, inflammation, cancers, etc and the math doesn’t look good.
Too bad so many are clueless or they could plan better instead of hoping for a political savior that will never come.
Christoball
Christoball
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
* Already 30% of Baby Boomers are dead.
* In the last several months the daily deaths have gone up from 5,300 a day to 5,400 a day.
* At some point more Boomers will die every day than retire every day
* Nearly 2 million of the 65 million Boomers left will die this year.
* So far 26 million Boomers have died which is a lot considering the oldest Boomers are only 76.7 years old.
* The average age of death for Americans is 78.8.
* The average age of death for American males is 76.3 so this explains a lot. Boomers are a lot less healthy than the previous generation who went through so much more depravity. Many have died early due to poor diet and lack of exercise.
* With almost a third of Boomers passing away before the average age of death, it appears gluttony has killed many.
* 80% or 800,000 of the one million so called Covid deaths were Boomers.
* If you remove the boomer deaths from all Covid deaths it shows that Covid is really a Nothing Burger for the general population.
* The half million additional deaths in 2020 compared to 2019 is consistent with the additional 7 hundred thousand births in 1946 compared to 1945.
* Additional deaths are different than excess deaths in that additional deaths are a total number rather than an increase in percentage.
* 1947 had an additional 1.1 million births compared to 1945
* 1947 onward for the next 18 years averaged over 1.1 additional births per year compared to 1945.
* Covid has Magically Disappeared. With or without Covid expect one half million, to one million additional deaths per year going forward compared to 2019 as the base year. This is consistent with increased birth rates beginning 76 years ago.
* Covid Magically disappeared when the Ukraine situation arrived.
* Ukraine war became less reported after Roe vs Wade was overruled.
* Roe vs Wade became less reported after inflation and rising gas prices
* The news cycle will never stop, and the truth will be ever elusive.
Christoball
Christoball
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
“It’s a lot worse than anyone realizes. It’s not just 60 million boomers hitting 65 in 2030”
* There are currently 65 million Baby Boomers alive now.
* 2 million Baby Boomers die every year at the rate of 5,400 a day.
* In 7 years at the current rate, over 14 million Baby Boomers will die, leaving only 51 million Baby Boomers left in 2030. I expect even fewer alive than that, as Peak Gluttony did not occur until the 1960’s onward.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  Christoball
“leaving only 51 million Baby Boomers left in 2030”
Oh well that will fix the productivity and labor problem then. How much will 51 million consume? I know most if not all will produce zero.
You keep missing the point: LABOR is leaving the workforce at a growing rate. Whether it is by death, retirement, illness or laziness fewer and fewer people are working in the US and we have had declining birthrates for a long time now. Less labor and productivity means higher and higher inflation. My thesis stands: inflation will continue to be high for a long time caused by a depleting labor force.
I don’t know what the government can do other than open immigration to allow massive inflows of ‘new labor’ or start rationing all goods and services in the future.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  Christoball
And your stats are a little off. According to the census, there are 94.5 million people over the age of 55 in 2019. Even at the death rates you claim, you are still way off.
Dr_Novaxx
Dr_Novaxx
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
And don’t forget “excess mortality” is off the charts since the unconstitutional Vaxx mandates, but no one seems to knows why. In fact “unknown cause” has become the leading cause of death in working age adults.
Many of those who refused The Vaxx were dismissed and are not allowed to work in their prior professions.
Christoball
Christoball
1 year ago
Reply to  Dr_Novaxx
Thanks for bringing that up. What you say is true. I was going to mention it but did not want skeptics to discredit my other statistics. Once again thanks.
Christoball
Christoball
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
The 94.5 million people group you mention contains people older than the boomers group you first brought up. Not only have over 4 million of the older group died in the last 3 years, but over 5 million Baby Boomers have died in the last 3 years as well. The “silent generation” 1928-1945 still has over 10 million living but are loosing nearly a million a year.
Having dealt with the Census Bureau in the past, I am skeptical about their numbers as well as CDC numbers.
The immigrants you desire will become older someday too, and will likely be even more of a burden in the future because they will have zero wealth in old age.
People who want more immigrants just want people who will work cheap to preserve their own, or their parents wealth and Estate. They also like people who work with their hands for cheap because they want a servant class below them. Lets face it, people from 1st world countries are not scrambling to sneak over the border. Immigration, like student loan forgiveness; it is a bad idea.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  Christoball
“I am skeptical about their numbers as well as CDC numbers.”
And now you’ve given yourself away, you are going to believe whatever you want to believe regardless of the data so the discussion ends here otherwise I may as well be arguing with a carpet.
As for immigrants, I don’t care if they are allowed in or not, I have repeatedly said I plan on being an immigrant myself, out of the US and into other countries. You stay here and watch your standard of living decline into oblivion, you reap what you sow.
Christoball
Christoball
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
” My country tis of thee, Sweet land of liberty…. of thee I sing”
Have at it MPO45. It is a lot easier to move to the third world than it is to turn the US into the third world. Many have tried; at least you will be king for a day.
“America, America, God shed His Grace on Thee”
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
1 year ago
The $64,000 question is “How high do interest rates have to go to meaningfully reduce the Federal Deficit in the absence of QE”?
If rates ever do reach that point, the inflation problem will have been solved.
xbizo
xbizo
1 year ago
Reply to  Bam_Man
In the absence of QE, I think the 10-year rate moves to 6%. I would let it sit 6%-7% for six months before experimenting further…
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
1 year ago
Reply to  xbizo
Those exploding interest costs will put a huge strain on the Federal budget and hopefully lead to less ADDITIONAL spending, which will help reduce inflation.
xbizo
xbizo
1 year ago
Reply to  Bam_Man
You would think that unwinding QE would be step number one, and after long rates rise to market, have short rates follow. Then no inverted yield curve. … maybe that means an inverted yield curve with long rates suppressed by 3% isn’t really an inverted yield curve?
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
1 year ago
Reply to  xbizo
Long rates actually follow short rates. Long term rates reflect EXPECTED short term rates (plus a liquidity premium) over that entire time frame. This must be so, otherwise arbitrage opportunities would exist in the swap market (fixed vs. floating).
xbizo
xbizo
1 year ago
Reply to  Bam_Man
True, in an open market. If you left the market to determine the long rate of a ten-year note with inflation expectations of 8% in year one, 4% in year two, 3% in year three and after, what would it be? I think buyers need a 2% margin to have an incentive to buy under normal conditions. Under the risks today, probably more. So, market rate is well over 5% in this scenario.
The fed funds rate is set by the Fed anywhere it wants. Doesn’t reflect the market, except to give it a floor.
xbizo
xbizo
1 year ago
Reply to  xbizo
Talking to myself. With a 0.5% margin on the one-year note, this would give you an inverted yield curve because the one year would be at 8.5% with inflation higher in year one than over ten years.
Note: liquidity premium is 1.5% from the one-year to the ten-year
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  Bam_Man
Somebody’s getting that interest money, and will spend it at some point.
Christoball
Christoball
1 year ago
Reply to  Bam_Man
Higher government contract costs and COLA’s due to inflation will be more expensive than higher borrowing costs. I expect higher rates and an effort to promote deflation to normalize prices to where they would have been if the so called desired %2 inflation rate had been achieved.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  Bam_Man
Back to the normal 4-6% range?
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  Bam_Man
Google ‘Taylor Rule’. Then, look at this chart…
An application to the Fed issue can be found here: link to zerohedge.com
Billy
Billy
1 year ago
I’m in the market for a new SUV. I wanted an electric one but no one has a mid sized one in stock and it could be over a year if everything goes right for Rivian. Audi has a small one for sale but they are asking an Additional Dealer Markup of 20%. Ford’s small one has ADM of $15,000 for a car with an MSRP of $45,000. Well, maybe it’s because they are electric. Maybe the new Bronco. Those have ADMs from $15,000-30,000 with MSRPs of $45,000
Everyone tells me it’s because of such a high demand. Sure doesn’t seem like a recession.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  Billy
I think it’s a supply issue. All the car lots I see are pretty empty.
TheCaptain
TheCaptain
1 year ago
Reply to  Billy
How much do you think you are going to pay for a rivian? Why does anyone want to pay for 2 cars but receive only 1? Is every really that stupid? In 10 years you will need a new battery.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  TheCaptain
Because everyone doesn’t want a corrola.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  TheCaptain
If EVs are mandated, and subsidized, prices will continue to climb. In 10 years, battery technology will have advanced–you will likely save money by buying a new car instead of replacing the battery
Billy
Billy
1 year ago
Reply to  TheCaptain
How much? $90k for the max battery. Why pay double? Because I charge at work for free. I live in Cali and fuel costs+tax will only go up from here. I won’t need a new battery in 10 years. I stick to the 20-70% charge rule so the battery should last 15 years.
JRM
JRM
1 year ago
Reply to  Billy
Its a shortage of materials…
Watch EV prices continue to climb as the manufacturers continued to cut the number of EV’s they role out…
Majority of vehicles on the road will continue to run on Gas/diesel, no matter the propaganda being spouted by the “Environmental terrorist”!!!!
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  Billy
You should buy it because in a few years the MSRP will be $60,000. There are 8 billion people on the planet that all want a taste of the good life. Get it while you can because it will get harder and harder as time goes by…
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  Billy
BUY NOW! Ford has announced 2023 electric Mustang GT prices to increase up to $8k. [lol]
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
This is in advance of begging for a gov’t handout when sales fall off in a recession. LMAO.
Irondoor
Irondoor
1 year ago
Reply to  Billy
We were interested in trading for a new Toyota Highlander. The dealer didn’t have any, so we went to the Toyota website and picked out the colors, options, etc we wanted and told the dealer to order it. He said it would take a year, and it would be a 2023 model. We’re in no hurry, so we gave him a deposit and he placed the order. Two weeks later he called my wife and said our car is being built and will be delivered in Nov. I called him to discuss. He said the car may have a few options that we didn’t specify. I asked him to send me the build sheet. He did, and about the only thing on it that we wanted was the exterior color.
Dealers are having a hard time getting cars allocated, and when this one was allocated to him, I believe he thought we’d take it anyhow. Toyota ships cars by rail to a facility in your state or nearby. There they sit and get non-ordered options added, such as roof racks, chrome accents, etc, that you didn’t want. This adds up and you are expected to acquiesce to it. I told the dealer that if we are going to spend $45,000 on a new automobile, we deserve to get what we want. He said he had no control over it. The order was cancelled. I’m sure someone will buy it. To his credit, the dealer wasn’t adding any additional markup.
Dr_Novaxx
Dr_Novaxx
1 year ago
Reply to  Irondoor
Irondoor, that’s an old sales tactic called “bait & switch”
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  Irondoor
Good luck… if you believe a car dealer…
Billy
Billy
1 year ago
Reply to  Irondoor
Irondoor, I’m one of the strange people who spends over 100 hours before buying a car. I found a long time ago that dealer will waste your time thinking you’ll give up. So I spent the whole weekend calling around and learned who the honest dealers are and who are the typical ones. Basically, the inner city dealers(usually the biggest) have the most markups, and forums online will tell you many stories where they end up charging additional markups once your car finally comes in. They recommend to get your price protected by the dealer and in writing.
It still may not provide you with any legal recourse but you then have something to blast them over with social media.( This works if you have the time) I was looking at the Rav4 this weekend too. Priced out to be able to drive in deep snow, it’s almost $40,000. For a Rav4???
All I can say is good luck. Remember that time is on your side. Especially if they are dealing with shortages. As far as construction supplies, those prices are coming down fast. There isn’t a hold up on ocean freight. With more manufactures coming online with semiconductors, these shortages should be over soon. I also confirmed that talking to salesman about their total inventory coming back to normal.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago

Powell quoted Volcker on “expectations”. Expectations fell short last year.

The FED does everything backwards. QT should reduce the supply of money while increasing the supply of loan funds. That way you hit inflation harder than real output.

MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Mish…your thoughts on September Fed rate hike: 50? 75? 100? Other?
I ask because on CNBC they all seem to be in the 75 or higher camp and we know CNBC is the proxy mouth piece for corporate america so will the Fed give them what they want?
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
Since Mish has not replied yet, I will put in my two cents. The economic data will continue to be various shades of awful, so I am expecting a 50 bps increase at the Sept. FOMC meeting.The stock market will like this (temporarily), but there will be more pain for equities until that happens.
JRM
JRM
1 year ago
Reply to  Bam_Man
Wrong 75!!!
bobcalderone
bobcalderone
1 year ago
Reply to  Bam_Man
If the Fed wants to be taken seriously on inflation, they have to do 75 bp in September. Otherwise the markets will be off to the races again
Christoball
Christoball
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
100
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
Highly unlikely, 150 basis points to make up for the minimal increases in prior months. (Taylor Rule on steroids)
Denver1
Denver1
1 year ago
All this Fed gazing leaves out:
(1) Biden’s yesterday drop of 500 billion in the next few years into the economy as a gift to a few debtor voters,
(2) last month’s inflation law dropping another trillion into the economy to rebuild US back better and chase tax payers,
(3) a trillion in the tsunami of unspent COVID helicopter money from 2021 is still on the way,
(4) over 70 billion so far this year, mostly spent in US, to keep Zalensky in Ukraine and
(5 ) April 2022 Biden expanded EPA authority to drive energy prices higher with newly concocted “climate” Beltway actions to curb drilling, pipelines, power plants, airports and other infrastructure projects across US.
The author and Fed are just dancing with the rest of the Beltway as the flood of Beltway expenditures and cuts to energy create record setting inflation and destroy the US Dollar so our favorites can get elected in November.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  Denver1
“destroy the US Dollar” ????
Do you not know the USD is king right now? Look at USD against Euro or Pound or any other currency for that matter….
There is no alternative currency to the USD, not even gold is doing well….for now.
The trick to do now is leverage USD to amplify value in lower cost countries. Good time to buy real estate in foreign countries.
Scooot
Scooot
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
“Good time to buy real estate in foreign countries”
I’d be surprised if that were true. House prices are probably set to fall here in the UK as we enter a severe recession. Disposable income is set to plummet and businesses will be hit with rising costs and falling sales. Probably a similar tale on mainland Europe. Additionally you’d have the foreign exchange risk which might help if the dollar were to correct, or maybe not?
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  Scooot
I should clarified, “it’s a good time for AMERICANS with plenty of USD to buy properties all over the world.” It’s a horrible time if you are a European or British or whatever. The dollar is king of the world. A few years ago, 1 euro cost $1.25 today it’s $0.99. That’s a 25% discount for Americans, including property and goods. Damn the inflation, full speed ahead.
JRM
JRM
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
Another person who hasn’t bothered to look at the statements released by the EU when they rolled the Euro out..
They wanted it to be 1.00 Euro = $1.00!!!!
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
How far have real estate prices dropped in Europe post-Covid?
JRM
JRM
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
Well if anybody bothered to go back when they rolled out the Euro, they wanted to be on par with the dollar!!!!
1.00 EURO = $1.00!!!!
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  JRM
That’s absurd like any central planning normally is with its “intentions.” The value of a currency is largely dependent on a few thing like central bank rates, the size and productivity of the labor force and the abundance of resources available in country. Other factors include property rights, legal system, and democratic/justice values. Europe has 700 million people and the birthplace of most modern property rights laws so in theory that alone should justify a premium to the currency but stupidity does ensue and mis-valuations do occur so it’s up to the prudent investor to take advantage when those things happen.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Sounds like slow growth for several more years. Good for oil and gas.
And California’s announcement is good for hydrogen.
Two areas to be invested in going forward.
radar
radar
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Don’t they have to use fossil fuels for power for the hydrolysis and then also to put into distribution? Seems like it would be more efficient to just burn gas in the car.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  radar
True but it allows for more intermediaries to have their hand out and collect their rent payments and pass those costs to suckers…err.. I mean consumers.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  radar
Hydrogen is made many ways. Here is an article with the color spectrum of hydrogen:
The most popular current form is “grey” made from natural gas.
However, there is a huge push on for “green” hydrogen, which is produced by electrolysis of water, using surplus power from renewable sources.
Canada and Germany just signed a deal to build huge wind farms on Canada’s windy east coast and use most of the electricity to produce hydrogen (since it is not a heavily populated area).
Amazon just signed a deal with Plug Power for green hydrogen to power its forklifts and trucks.
The US is about to become the world leader in green hydrogen thanks to the $3/kg subsidy in the inflation reduction act.
radar
radar
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
“The most popular current form is “grey” made from natural gas.” Wouldn’t it be more efficient and less cost/complication to just burn natural gas in the car? I haven’t studied it, but it just seems like an unnecessary/costly step.
Can wind farms supply enough economical power for hydrolysis for the whole country? Seems like several nuke plants dedicated to making hydrogen and carbon capture would go a long way.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  radar
“Wouldn’t it be more efficient and less cost/complication to just burn natural gas in the car? I haven’t studied it, but it just seems like an unnecessary/costly step.”
Yes and no. Yes, H2 is more complicated and way less efficient than NG. However, NG is impractical for autos, particularly when compared to gasoline. If you are going to burn fossil fuels in a personal auto, its better to stick with gasoline, not NG.
The enticing reason to use H2, is because there are no emissions, other than water vapor. Very clean.
In addition, H2 is a way to store any unused energy from wind or solar, rather than using batteries or some other storage system.
So it helps solve the problem of how to store the energy that is sometime wasted in renewables and how to generate power without CO2 and other emissions.
Please note that setting up a Hydrogen infrastructure is both expensive and complicated. And I am not an expert on it, and I do not know how successful H2 will become. But I am looking into it to see if it can be a good investment.
“Can wind farms supply enough economical power for hydrolysis for the whole country? Seems like several nuke plants dedicated to making hydrogen and carbon capture would go a long way.”
Great question. First, I think that H2 will simply be a niche market for the rest of this decade. Perhaps in 20 years time H2 will become a bigger contributor to the nations energy mix.
I think that renewables have a long way to go before they can even provide the majority of our electricity. They will only be used for H2 production when they are producing surplus energy.
The same goes for nuclear. Nuclear usually provides base load energy. Its not often that there is excess power available. But when there is, I imagine it could be used to produce H2. But no one is going to build a nuclear plant dedicated to H2 production. As you said, that would be unnecessarily complicated and expensive.
So H2 may become a dominant form of energy storage for renewables, but that will simply represent less than 5 percent of the electricity that will be produced from those renewables. The other 95% percent will be used outright as it is produced.
radar
radar
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Thank you Dave. It would be great if it can be made affordably. One thing I read was that any H2 that leaks out will escape the planet. It’s so light that it goes right out of the atmosphere. That might pose a long term problem if the whole planet was using it. No way to replace water.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  radar
I would be surprised if H2 will be affordable at first. But that is why the US will subsidize it at up to $3/kg. Once the infrastructure reaches critical size (whatever that might be) I imagine it will become cost competitive. We will see. It is a tremendous opportunity for the US to take the lead in this area. And if fossil fuels keep going up in price, H2 might end up a bargain eventually.
Yes, H2 does escape our atmosphere at a very slow trickle. Apparently, this trickle will become a flood and a problem for earth in one or two billion years. So no need to worry about that.
radar
radar
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
That’s good. I was thinking of all the cars that would slowly lose it. There’s probably a leak at every pipe fitting since the molecules are so small.
It seems the Saudi’s have put a floor in the oil market. My oil stocks didn’t sell off near as bad today and some were even positive for most of the day.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  radar
Looks like it. The Saudis were frustrated that the financial market wasn’t reflecting what they see in the physical market: tight supply. The financial market keeps expecting more supply (like Iran) or collapsing demand from a recession.
If supply from Iran did come back, it is simple for OPEC to cut back a bit on supply, and thus re-establish some spare capacity. That keeps a floor on prices.
If Iran doesn’t come back online, and demand keeps growing, supplies will get very tight once SPR releases end. In addition, Europe keeps threatening to cut off Russian oil before year end. OPEC is tapped out. In addition, we have been lucky that no hurricanes have disrupted supplies yet this year. But that could still happen.
The chances of another price spike are high. Though we don’t need one to do well with oil stocks.
Anything over $90/bbl and they will keep gushing cash flow. Over $100 and they are puking cash flow. And that is what I expect in 2023.
Its been a fun, but volatile ride. Though, since I trade a portion of my portfolio, I love the volatility.
My core position; I just sit on my hands and wait patiently as it keeps going up in value over time. Many have tripled already. And they are nowhere close to being fairly valued yet.
radar
radar
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
I would love to understand trading better. I have several underwater that I wish I had sold at the peak, so the fun was turning to panic for awhile. If you don’t mind me asking, for your oil account, do you just try to keep a certain percentage of cash? IE, as stock prices go up your cash percentage goes down so you sell some stocks to maintain the percentage. And vise versa if prices are falling. Is there a book or technique you could recommend?
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  radar
There is a lot of info out there (including scams) on day trading and swing trading. Stick to reliable sources. Don’t fall for hype. Lots of websites and you tube videos.
I started a few years ago, with very small trades as I learned my way.
I literally started by trading 1 share of FANG at a time, over and over each day, pocketing 50 cents to a few dollars on each buy/sell combo. Of course, this requires an account with a no fee brokerage.
Then I gradually expanded into a half dozen stocks, though I rarely trade more than 2 or 3 each day.
Then I slowly worked my way up to 5 or 10 shares per trade. Then 50, 100, 500 shares. And so on. You can keep it as small as you are comfortable with. No need to risk a lot.
It’s not a full-time job. I don’t rely on it for income. And I don’t do it every day. Just when I have free time. Some days it can occupy 10 minutes of my time. Other days, 6 hours. I use my computer at home and my smart phone when on the golf course or elsewhere.
I do it for fun mostly and to enhance my returns. I can have up to 25% cash at times. The other 75% is in my core position in stocks for the long term.
I have helped quite a few people get started with it as well. All by starting with 1 share at a time.
This wasn’t possible 10 years ago. But with so many no fee brokerages and the technology in the palm of your hand, its very easy to do now.
Just start small and don’t let early success go to your head.
radar
radar
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Thank you so much Dave…your advice has been a real blessing for my family and I!
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  radar
My pleasure radar. I got some great advice from Realist and Eddie on this blog. Just trying to pay it back for others now. Though most here seem more interested in playing politics and the blame game.
Please remember; the future is very uncertain. My expectations of continued success for oil stocks assumes that there will be no economic collapse, world war, new pandemic or other black swan event.
Don’t put all your eggs in one basket. I only have 15% of my overall wealth in oil stocks.
Best of luck with your investments!
radar
radar
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Right now I’m at about 45% but do not plan to go higher and do plan to bring that % down as the stocks/dividends rise. I feel better about oil/ng right now as it seems everything else is headed down for a while. And best of luck to you and yours in the days ahead!
JRM
JRM
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
your “WATER” to make Hydro is going to have problems when there is a “DROUGHT”!!!!
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  JRM
First, we were not discussing generating electricity from a dammed river. We were discussing the production of Hydrogen, using excess power from renewables such as wind farms.
I guess that’s why the Germans and Canadians are building their H2 production facility and the wind farm on the coast where it is very windy and there is a lot of ocean water for them to perform hydrolysis on. No lack of ocean water. In fact, the oceans are rising a little bit every year.
Perhaps you do not understand the difference between hydro-electric and hydrolysis?
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
2022—The Year the Hydrogen Economy Launched
The Inflation Reduction Act and the war in Ukraine pump billions into clean hydrogen
Glenn Zorpette
17 Aug 2022.
Among the technological visions that seem perpetually futuristic (think commercial nuclear fusion and maglev trains), the hydrogen economy has always been tantalizing. Hydrogen produced from renewable energy or nuclear power, with minimal greenhouse-gas emissions, could be piped or transported pretty much anywhere, using mostly existing infrastructure. It could power trucks, cars, planes, and ships and generate electricity, either in fuel cells or combustion turbines. In short, it could do anything fossil fuels do now, but with substantially reduced climate impact.
Now, after decades of false starts and overly optimistic projections, several factors are giving an unprecedented lift to clean hydrogen. In the United States, sweeping legislation capped a series of moves by the country’s Department of Energy (DOE) over the past year to drive down the cost of low-carbon hydrogen and stimulate demand for the fuel. And in Europe, a looming fossil-fuel crisis has sent officials scrambling to find alternatives to the 155 billion cubic meters of Russian natural gas that EU countries imported in 2021.
“You’re rapidly getting the cost of hydrogen down to where it is very competitive—and in many cases cheaper—than the fossil alternative. So that’s why the community is so excited.”
—Keith Wipke, NREL
“I’ve been working in hydrogen for 20 years, and this is absolutely the most exciting time, the busiest time,” says Keith Wipke, manager of the Fuel Cell and Hydrogen Technologies Program at the National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) in Golden, Colo. “There’s just so much activity.”
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PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
Excellent article. Probably still a lot of hype, but the investment potential is tantalizing. It will be interesting to see how quickly this can ramp up to be a significant contributor to our energy needs. It has the potential to replace a small amount of fossil fuels by the end of this decade, and perhaps a lotbof fossil fuels by the end of the next decade.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
I think H2 energy is on an exponential growth curve. It makes much more sense to power transportation with H2 rather than electric because there are no batteries to wear out or dispose of and you can fill your tank in 5 minutes or less.
Here’s a new approach to transporting H2 that appears to be much safer.
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This week’s second hydrogen powder promises double the density
July 21, 2022
Stir this silicon-based powder into water, and hydrogen will bubble out, ready for immediate use. Hong Kong company EPRO Advance Technology (EAT) says its Si+ powder offers an instant end to the difficulties of shipping and storing green energy.
This is the second powdered hydrogen advance we’ve learned about this week, designed to solve the same problems: transporting hydrogen is difficult, dangerous and expensive, whether the costs are for cryogenic cooling in a liquid hydrogen system, or for compression to around 700 times the normal sea-level air pressure.
But where Deakin University’s mechanochemical storage process takes hydrogen gas and traps it in a powder for easy, stable transport, releasing it only once the recyclable powder is heated, EAT’s silicon-based powder doesn’t require you to start off with any hydrogen at all – and getting the hydrogen back out is even easier.
The Si+ powder can be made using a (preferably renewable) energy source, as well as metallurgical-grade silicon – which itself can be made from sand, or from crushed-up recycled solar panels and electronics. EAT’s process results in a porous silicon powder that’s completely safe and easy to transport.
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Lepton
Lepton
1 year ago
FED is the mortal enemy of wage earners. To call them “clueless” let’s them off the hook for intentionally damaging the wage-earner in favor of the health of business owner. The mandate of price-stability is antithetical to the other mandate of full-employment. I even question the ability or hubris to control prices, such as energy– the master resource, in face of geopolitics which producers are gaming the market to maximize the price and thus upset all downstream products pricing, ie. a major contributing root cause of inflation (another other being money printing). The high cost of energy is a SIGNAL that energy is very important and countries should move to gain energy independence for stability. Not sabotage peoples (sorry wage-earners) ability to pay for essential goods and services by “softening the labor market”.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  Lepton
“I even question the ability or hubris to control prices, such as energy– the master resource, in face of geopolitics which producers are gaming the market to maximize the price and thus upset all downstream products pricing, ie. a major contributing root cause of inflation (another other being money printing). The high cost of energy is a SIGNAL that energy is very important and countries should move to gain energy independence for stability.”
No one “sets” the market price of the vast majority of commodities, including oil and gas. The fed cannot control commodity prices. Individual companies cannot manipulate prices. Producers are price takers, not price makers.
One can “anticipate” price levels by following supply/demand numbers and inventory levels. Worldwide inventories have been dropping for two years. Hence, the upward pressure on prices. The fed cannot change supply.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
“No one ‘sets’ the market price of the vast majority of commodities, including oil and gas.”
By extension, Putin and Biden had no role in increasing the market price of oil and gas.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Perhaps the high priests of Fed-dum can understand a simple dog analogy…. If I pour too much dog food into the bowl, my dog gets fat and lazy (aka inflated). As the dog gets fat, it stops chasing the cat, and the cat gets fat and lazy, too. Next, there’s a mouse plague and bird crap everywhere…
Ergo, if you pour faux ‘money’ into the capital markets, you inflate prices in the capital-driven markets, and investors get ‘rich’ and lazy. If you pour faux ‘money’ onto consumers, you inflate prices in the consumer-driven markets…. In both situations there are unintended consequences.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
1 year ago
Markets are reeling because adjusting the cost of money based on CPI has been such a great success even if once they figure out how to do it properly.
Just wait how they crash when Jerome will drop a hint of future rates based on speculative leverage in the bloated financial sector.
Dr_Novaxx
Dr_Novaxx
1 year ago
Good! There is only one rational path for the Fed: Keep raising rates & stop QE. They should’ve been doing this years ago, and if they have to re-define Recession to do it, fine with me. Better to take bitter medicine now than to kick the can down the road and allow the economy to become sicker.
fibsurfer
fibsurfer
1 year ago
I wonder what would happen if we increased the supply of everything?
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  fibsurfer
You have to actually produce (using land, labor, and capital) to increase the real supply. The Fed added zeroes to its balance sheet and produced a faux mess.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  fibsurfer
That’s called a “post-scarcity” world.
It will be possible once robots do all the jobs and we are able to easily travel in outer space, where resources are unlimited. Just snag an asteroid or mine an uninhabited moon when you need more raw materials.
CRS65
CRS65
1 year ago
Inflation is part monetary and part behavioral with both impacting the supply and demand dynamics in the economy. Monetary policy can directly act on the monetary factors and indirectly on the behavioral factors. But whether direct or indirect, Fed actions can only calibrate the demand forces within the economy using interest rates, its balance sheet, and lastly messaging. Today’s messaging by Powell should not be a surprise to anyone.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  CRS65
At the end of the day, it all comes down to behavioral factors.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Inflation is still out of control all over the world but especially with the US G20 trading partners so how will Powell contain those unless people are under the impression that the US Fed controls inflation on all of planet earth. The top three US trade partners are experiencing high inflation, China even went up from June to July as did Mexico, only Canada had a marginal drop but that’s likely temporary. De-globalization won’t happen fast enough to fix this either.
With the Fed moving as fast as a snail with interest rates, most will long be broke by the time this gets fixed. Got expat plans?
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
You’ll need another planet. There will be no escape via expat either from global economic contagion.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Well there is temporary relief. Having a remote job in the US earning dollars and converting those to another currency in a lower cost country will go a long way to hedge against inflation. The more time passes, the more I find myself leveraging the same mindset corporations use to increase their profits and offset their expenses. I’m going to offshore my US expenses by relocating to a lower cost country and I won’t be passing the savings to my employer.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
Being the central bank of the reserve currency puts you in a different league compared to all other currencies which adjust their rates to the FED rate in unison, since the financial markets has been liberalized. Money flows where it can earn risk free interest.
End the central banking cabal, the destroyer.

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