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Former Top General Blasts Trump for Politicizing the Military

Charles Q. Brown, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, speaks out on Trump.

The Military and the Republic
What America’s Armed Forces Can—and Cannot—Do for Democracy

Please consider The Military and the Republic by Charles Q. Brown, Jr., Peter D. Feaver, and Andrew Kragie, emphasis mine.

Celebrations of America’s founding and reflections on its ideals often overlook the central role of civil-military relations. This is a mistake. In the Declaration of Independence, a chief complaint was that King George III “affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.” George Washington himself worried about this abuse of power and went to great pains to avoid it in his own career. Throughout the Revolutionary War, he constantly deferred to the Continental Congress despite its calamitous delays and erratic instructions, because he recognized that his authority over the Continental Army flowed from the people’s representatives.

The temptation for mission creep is understandable: the U.S. military is the most advanced in the world, with a budget two to three times that of its nearest competitor.

But when presidents use the armed forces for more politically contentious missions, such as addressing domestic crime in cities, the work of the military becomes more fraught. Resorting to a military solution rather than fixing the underlying incapacity or dysfunction in civilian institutions diverts the military from focusing on its primary combat mission. And, as Washington knew, it is not the military’s job to save the republic from political impasses. Indeed, if you ask too much of the military, you risk the entire enterprise.

The Modern Patriot

Those who asked General Washington to save the country from a dysfunctional Congress expected the military to fix something that was the duty of civilians to fix. A century and a half later, another general turned statesman, President Dwight D. Eisenhower, pointedly asked the political establishment—and ultimately the electorate—to save the country from the “conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry.” In his farewell address, he warned about the risk of an increasingly powerful military industrial complex, saying, “We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes.” Like Washington, Eisenhower understood that the health of the republic depended on ordinary civilians exercising their political power and not outsourcing it to the military.

This lesson is critical today. Throughout this year of remembrance, the military has played an outsize ceremonial role. Asking the uniformed military to serve in an honor guard, lead a parade, or conduct stirring flyovers makes sense; the military excels at ceremony and provides a unifying symbol, and these acts help citizens look with pride on the republic’s capacity for strength and resilience. They may even inspire some to join the ranks of the all-volunteer force. But they should not be seen as a military monopoly on patriotism. 

Charles Q. Brown Warns the Military Is Being Politicized

The Wall Street Journal comments Former Top General Warns the Military Is Being Politicized

In an essay published Friday with two co-authors, Brown cautioned that sending the military into American cities for “politically contentious missions” like fighting crime risked compromising its traditionally apolitical role and diverting it from its combat mission.

His essay in Foreign Affairs magazine followed an appearance the previous week when he voiced concerns about the Pentagon’s moves to strike officers from military promotion lists and push high-ranking personnel into retirement

“What is starting to happen now, it is not about merit,” Brown said at a discussion of civil-military relations hosted by the Aspen Institute. “All of these people who are being removed are very well experienced.”

His comments came as panelists at the discussion addressed efforts by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and his aides to remove officers from promotion lists and push others toward retirement, such as Gen. Chris Donahue, who officially relinquished his post Thursday as the top Army officer in Europe after the Pentagon downgraded his command.

Known for speaking in measured terms, Brown has sought to strike a nonpartisan stance, noting in his essay that both Democratic and Republican presidents have expanded the military’s domestic role during periods of national crisis, such as the Covid-19 pandemic.

His careful comments stand in contrast to the blunt words of Gen. Mark Milley, his predecessor as chairman of the Joint Chiefs, who said in his 2023 exit speech that American troops take an oath to the Constitution and don’t report to a “wannabe dictator,” a reference to Trump, who was then out of office and had previously called Milley a traitor. 

But Brown’s message was still clear, including his apparent concerns about Trump’s deployment during his second term of thousands of troops to Los Angeles; Washington, D.C.; Chicago and other cities in a public show of force the White House said was needed to fight lawlessness. Following a series of legal challenges, the Trump administration ended its efforts to deploy the National Guard in Chicago, Los Angeles and Portland, Ore. But National Guard members are still on patrol in Washington, D.C. 

“In the face of a genuine national disaster, the public will readily embrace the military’s help,” Brown wrote in his essay. “But when presidents use the armed forces for more politically contentious missions, such as addressing domestic crime in cities, the work of the military becomes more fraught.”

Hegseth, in his 2024 book “The War on Warriors,” questioned whether Brown was selected for the top military post because he was Black.

In February 2025, Hegseth called Brown while he was in Texas to review the administration’s border mission to tell him he was being removed. Trump later announced the decision in a social-media post. 

In his Aspen Institute appearance, Brown said the Pentagon’s approach to personnel decisions was spurring doubts in the ranks. “My concern is the impact it has on those who are still continuing to serve. Are they going to have a fair opportunity to advance in their career going forward?” he asked. “Anecdotally, I know some folks that have some concerns about that, whether they are going to have a fair shot.”

The Big Threat

My concern goes far beyond military personnel having a fair shot at advancing.

What’s happening now is both clear and ominous.

Hegseth is removing top military generals on one basis only – loyalty to Trump.

When Trump loses Congress in the Midterm elections, and he will, Trump wants military officers who will carry out any and all illegal orders.

Q: Such as?
A: Seizing ballots

That is the threat. And the course is being plotted.

That’s not a prediction, but the groundwork is being laid as I type.

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Wayne
Wayne
9 days ago

The politicization of the military went into full force under Biden. So, focusing it back on its mission of successfully fighting wars is politicizing? This general is a joke.

RonJ
RonJ
10 days ago

Racist DEI was a politization of the military. That was pre Trump. Recruitment increased after that was reversed.

On the subject of loyalty, there was a 4 year coup against Trump in his first term. He learned his lesson about seditionists.

I haven’t seen it, but there is a new video out, called Duty to Disobey. It is about the military and the Covid shots. An illegal order, if there ever was one.

Webej
Webej
11 days ago

Eisenhower’s remarks about the Military-Congressional-Industrial complex did not help. It was not a caution, but an observation, and has only gotten worse.

The politicization of the military started in force with the implementation of the woke agenda, so Trump is following a now well-trodden path, regrettable as it is.

the U.S. military is the most advanced in the world, with a budget two to three times that of its nearest competitor.

Accounting properly, not just taking the DOD stated budget, the US is responsible for 50% of global military spending, so nobody comes close. Whether this is mainly money laundering or marshals actual military force is kind of an open question, in view of all the defeats — but they sure are good at murdering school girls.

Jon
Jon
11 days ago
Reply to  Webej

The woke agenda started with Truman integrating blacks into the military.

Russel Future
Russel Future
12 days ago

I really love the old USA, and historically, the American military has been a professional group of folks who generally tried to do the right thing, when called upon to act. Buf what Trump and his people are doing is wildly wrong. Serious military analysts know this, serving officers probably know it, and students of history know it. Trump and Hegseth are purging anyone viewed as “disloyal”, it appears, and this is an old, old model. And what Americans need to think abouf, is what this means. It means a direct assault on the USA Constitution – and this is happening right now, in real-time. Many sensible folks have pointed out that US military people swear an oafh to the Constitution, not some “wanabe dictator.” These US Constitutional requirements are *critical* to America’s success. It’s such a wise and clever idea, and operational political strategy. Trump’s assault on key, critical, baseline features of the American Constitution – and his idiotic and abusive actions to allies around the world – leads many to believe that he is an active enemy of America, and that his actions appear to be the actions of a traitor. Many believe he is mentally unbalanced. Hegseth’s actions appear to be similar – an explicit set of actions designed to degrade the professional basis of the US Military.
Americans need to think hard how they are going to fix this Trump problem. The entire American experiment is under active assault by Trump and his narrow group of people who are supporting him and growing very rich from the Trump assault on the foundational characteristics of USA.
All the necessary pre-conditions exist for triggering the 25th Amendment.
The idea of Trump being arrested, charged with Treason, and removed from the White Houss, looks more and more reasonable and correct, as each day passes. If and when the markets implode, it will look like an even better idea.

Stu
Stu
12 days ago
Reply to  Russel Future

– Trump and Hegseth are purging anyone viewed as “disloyal” it appears. > Yes, as one should suspect in the Military.

– what this means. > Loyalty is extremely important in the military, for obvious reasons.

– It means a direct assault on the USA Constitution. > Wow! Where did that come from. This is standard procedure in the Military. It must be for obvious reasons.

– US military people swear an oath to the Constitution, not some “wanabe dictator.” > Correct, and one of many reasons we Do Not have a King in office, but a duly elected President. Elected for his vision and direction of our Country. Which Trump by the way, simply crushed it in His Election, with Overwhelming support. This topic only strengthens that view by most. We want Loyalty in Our Military, and you should too imho.

– All the necessary pre-conditions exist for triggering the 25th Amendment. > Hmm… Did Biden pass the 25’th Amendment criteria to remain President? If the answer is “Yes” then I rest my case and subject is closed…

– The idea of Trump being arrested, charged with Treason, and removed from the White House. > Is absolutely ridiculous… If he was, then he would have to be placed within a very long line of countless others in our country. Wake me when they get through the deceased that would have qualified, and we can move to the next beach.

Jon
Jon
11 days ago
Reply to  Stu

The fundamental, core concept of the US military is loyalty to the Constitution and rule of law, not to the President. Is is designed to ensure that no President can order the military to attack the American people and American institutions.

I’m back robbyrob
I’m back robbyrob
12 days ago
Arthur Orwell
Arthur Orwell
12 days ago

I suppose if one of those jackasses condemned a Democratic Party president, you would be telling us how the military should stay out of politics.

Creamer
Creamer
12 days ago
Reply to  Arthur Orwell

Like how he should be telling you to stay out of little kids’ pants “little hussies”?

I’m back robbyrob
I’m back robbyrob
12 days ago
Reply to  Creamer

enjoy the song of summer! https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FEV-zK06fUA

Arthur Orwell
Arthur Orwell
11 days ago
Reply to  Creamer

That was “little hookers.”

Mike R
Mike R
12 days ago
Reply to  Arthur Orwell

You never served so you have no idea what you are talking about. What General Brown said is spot on – I swore an oath to the Constitution, not to a king or a president. An officer’s duty is also focused on defense of the nation, not on policing the civilian population. There is 250 years of precedence on this, and it is not a Democratic or Republican matter, it is a foundational characteristic of the American experiment.

I also voted very Republican for most of my life – until trump that is. An officer’s duty is to the country as embodied in the Constitution. You really need to stop making ill-informed comments because you are either ignorant or else there is something seriously wrong with you.

Nate
Nate
12 days ago
Reply to  Mike R

Or both

cambeiu
cambeiu
12 days ago
Reply to  Mike R

As conservative (in the traditional sense) and former Republican voter, it took me a while to come to terms with the reality that many people who claimed to share the same label were actually racist scum and closeted fascists.

At one time, when they supported policies that were obviously racist and/or authoritarian, I’d try to argue and reason with them, because I thought they were good people who had been “tricked” into supporting abhorrent things. Now I know better. They were not tricked, that is who they are. I was the one who had been “tricked”.

Arthur Orwell
Arthur Orwell
11 days ago
Reply to  cambeiu

Anybody may find, as political events change and parties have to change to choose a position on new realities, that people he thought agreed with him on all important issues, in fact don’t.

Remember that the Republican Party was formed to organize the Civil War. I think this was because it was formed for the benefit of Northern manufacturing industry and Jewish bankers.

To me, all good people would be described as “racist scum and closet fascists” by the stupid ones, so that label wouldn’t worry me. I support Australian political tendencies that you would pretty certainly attach those labels to. I’m 75 years old and have been condemned in various terms by stupid people in authority or in the majority all my life, so I don’t care.

Going back to Mike R’s comments above, I can appreciate that soldiers may feel that no-one who hasn’t gone through that horrible experience should try to be an authority on it. Robert Heinlien, the science fiction writer, once imagined a society in which only those who had served in the military could vote, and I can see something to be said for that. But the fact remains that military people don’t know everything. In the course of my education and political activities I have run across a number of retired officers, and I must say that their intelligence level did not, as an average, impress me. (I do think they are not quite as morally degraded as the rest of our “leaders of society.”)

The German military theoretician Clausewitz, who died from eating army food and who is sometimes referred to as the epitome of evil, said that a battlefield was a “horrible sight.” He knew it was a nasty business.

I used to be a stockman – what you call a “cowboy.” In less settled parts of the country, that is dangerous work. There is a romance associated with being a stockman just as there is one associated with being a soldier. But the average stockman wouldn’t be a very good administrator, just as the average soldier would not be.

I feel I am rambling now, and I apologize for that. It often happens when I try to break new ground in my writing, as opposed to repeating an argument for the benefit of a new audience.

Your President Truman said that stupidity wasn’t against the law for generals, because if it was, you would have to shoot most of them. He had served as a junior officer in World War One. I think he was right. Remember that officers in the most senior ranks are bound to be selected for their political views in the first place, at least to some degree. And like doctors and other technical types, they are often very ignorant about matters outside their speciality, and often have no idea how ignorant they are.

When I was a not-very-successful bit player in the gold bullion market in the 1980s, I learned that if you took an unscrupulous view of the finance industry, doctors and lawyers made the best suckers, because they had money but had no idea how little they knew about the investment world. Later I clashed with an ex-military bunch who tried to take over the local branch of our major conservative political party, and found that they thought that politics was just the art of the double-cross. It is true that double-crosses do form part of politics, but you don’t want to develop a reputation for it. They crashed and burned.

BigBob
BigBob
12 days ago
Reply to  Arthur Orwell

Loyal to the end for the Chief Pedophile of the United States.

top gone
top gone
12 days ago

oh I know lets have a Parade like last year

The TACO king and foreign queen
did so want a birthday parade
with beautiful tanks and solders who prance
right down the promenade
but our soldiers fight they dont prance
our tanks are just tanks
and millions came out to show
Americas might comes
from our laws and our rights
and our great dislike of kings you know.

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
12 days ago

To be fair, Trump doesn’t have a choice. In a zero-sum, no-holds-barred, winner-take-all game like contemporary US politics, either you use all the power available to you to harm your enemies, or your enemies will use it to harm you.

We saw a similar dynamic in the fall of the Roman Republic.

Sentient
Sentient
12 days ago
Reply to  Feral Finster

That may be right, but it would be nice if some politician would just do what’s right and honest for once. I can dream, right? Trump is far too ignoble. Massie tried his best. He was defeated by the forces of evil, but he’s leaving with his honor.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
12 days ago
Reply to  Sentient

Massie got close, and the Israelis took him out.

Sentient
Sentient
12 days ago
Reply to  El Trumpedo

Like JFK and Charlie Kirk.

Mick
Mick
12 days ago
Reply to  El Trumpedo

For now, but they’d better burn all the evidence. I think Massie will be back.

threeblindmice
threeblindmice
12 days ago
Reply to  Feral Finster

This sentiment is exactly what may cause the downfall of the republic. Instead of advocating for authoritarianism because “the other side does it”, advocate for politicians to apply principle. When Weimar germany disintegrated it was because of political, then street, battles between the communists and the nazis. The center slowly became hollowed out as they were picked off and forced to join one or the other side. Don’t be seduced by the siren’s call for revenge. It leads to darkness.

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
11 days ago
Reply to  threeblindmice

I did not advocate for this or say it was h
good. For the record, I don’t. It doesn’t matter.

Because that does not mean that what I describe does not correspond to observable reality.

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
11 days ago
Reply to  threeblindmice

The republic has already long been gone.

Sentient
Sentient
12 days ago

I agree with the gist of what Brown is saying. If he was hired for being black, well, Hegsdeath was hired for being an imbecile. I don’t think Trump has the ability to mess with the midterms. Too complicated. Hope I’m right. A quibble: the strength of the American military should not be assessed by the fact that we spend 2-3 times our nearest competitor. If the “defense” contractors doubled their prices, would we be twice as strong? The U.S. government is good at dropping bombs and mailing checks. Not everything can be accomplished by those means.

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
12 days ago
Reply to  Sentient

And when a democrat president gets in he/she will need to “make right” all the wrongs of the Trump administration so they will institute DEI on steroids. And we’ll go through 4/8 years of that and then the country collapses.

Got exit strategy?

Creamer
Creamer
12 days ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

So they’ll… Recruit black people? On steroids?

Sentient
Sentient
12 days ago
Reply to  Creamer

Nothing wrong with inclusion or diversity. Requiring that 13% of pilots or brain surgeons be black is as dumb as requiring that 57% of the NBA be white.

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Tom
Tom
12 days ago

I expect him to make a move to reject many votes. He’s trying a number of approaches, all unconstitutional but that doesn’t mean much.

A lot of people look forward to killing their neighbor to cleanse the nation in the name of America, trump, and God. This will be the excuse they need.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
12 days ago
Reply to  Tom

Do they? Well, I’ve got a surprise for Cleatus Cousinfucker…

BigBob
BigBob
12 days ago
Reply to  Tom

The time is ripe for civil war. The MAGAs will have a surprise waiting for them if they come looking for me!

Bill Meyer
Bill Meyer
12 days ago

Appreciate the concerns and there is validity. However, the military was already politicized. Two and a half years ago under the Biden husk a well-known military family locally told me how their award winning Army son had quit the service. (He was due to re-up) Turns out when visiting a DC office he had addressed and mistakenly “mis-gendered” a “woman” officer. (In reality, a male). This led to an hour or two of berating by the hissy-fitting officer. When the family’s son aired concerns about this to higher brass, he was told in essence “we’re backing the higher-ranked officer, period…diversity, equity, blah blah”. He tendered his resignation. The military did everything possible to bring him back in, $125,000 re-signing bonus, the works. He still refused, telling them the institution was no longer a true fighting force. Pretty sure he went in with some MIC contractor. Not a fan of Hegseth, but I’m understanding what he was put in place to fix. That being said, we’re looking a a serious case of mission creep.

Neil
Neil
12 days ago
Reply to  Bill Meyer

Certainly bad if that happened. But it’s about scale; and the purge trump has done of high ranking officers that would serve the nation, not trump, is at an entirely different scale than what Biden might have done. Biden was ineffective and too old. Trumps is actively trying to break down democracy. The difference in danger should be obvious.

Jon
Jon
12 days ago
Reply to  Bill Meyer

I don’t see how that means it was “politicized”. Was it politicized when they let blacks and females into the military? You might thing females or non- whites weaken the military, but no one is asking you to support a political party instead of the constitution.

Sentient
Sentient
12 days ago
Reply to  Jon

Ones sex and race are immutable characteristics. People who try to change surgically what can’t actually be changed are mentally ill. I’m sure you disagree. In any case, you really can’t fault a guy for looking upon one of these sad creatures and instinctively, inadvertently addressing them with the pronoun of their real sex. I mean c’mon. Let’s get real.

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Jon
Jon
12 days ago
Reply to  Sentient

There are men who think the way women think and consider themselves female and vice-versa. That is an immutable fact, and it is well understood why this happens. The mother’s body secretes a variety of male and female hormones that wash over the growing embryo. If the wrong set of hormones are produced at critical stages of brain development, you end up with people with this condition. It is common enough that cultures in south east asia have long considered there to be more than two sexes to account for this fact.

Our culture’s rejection of these folks does cause a mental health condition for a lot of these people though. A psychiatrist friend of mine who has done some research on the issue does say it causes a lot of distress for these folks because our culture tries to force them into either a pure male or female role, neither of which they are capable of achieving. He told me that people who attempt to transition to the other sex never happens in societies that simply accept the diversity of sexual orientation.

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Sentient
Sentient
12 days ago
Reply to  Jon

Whatever. The guy in Bill Meyer’s story accidentally called a guy a guy. It could happen to the best of us, even if we try our best to use their preferred pronoun. No matter how open minded people try to be, most people see a man in a dress. It is what it is. Also, why are they usually about 6’4”?

Creamer
Creamer
12 days ago
Reply to  Jon

Well seeing as they’re happily talking shit about a black general, it clearly still is politicized to them. How dare that black man sit at the same table as us, that’s not warrior ethos!

Creamer
Creamer
12 days ago
Reply to  Bill Meyer

This sounds like a very real story seeing as there are only a handful of trans people in the entire military even then. Sounds like their “award winning army son” needed a convenient excuse to get out. I’m willing to bet none of his awards were from combat either.

pokercat
pokercat
11 days ago
Reply to  Creamer

I’d bet the whole story is bullshit.

threeblindmice
threeblindmice
12 days ago
Reply to  Bill Meyer

“babies”, “bathwater”

Creamer
Creamer
12 days ago

I would tell you that such a move is too stupid to be considered by any reasonable person, no matter how corrupt, but then you have Trump.

As far as I’m concerned Trump is so out to lunch he thinks elections are a formality. He’s said as much himself repeatedly this year. This means he’s also far enough out of his gourd to put together how bad of an idea it would be to ask the military to overthrow elections in a country where he’s approved by 35-37% of the population, most of whom are over 65.

Not even to mention the logistical issues of trying to control every major economic center, all of which hate you and all of which are located very far apart.

I don’t expect these plans to go far, I’ll tell you that.

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
12 days ago
Reply to  Creamer

Think of how stupid the average frustrated citizen is. He’ll talk about “freedom” but when you ask him what that means, it means “you can buy lots of stuff if your credit card is good”.

Give them Cheez Doodles and instatok, and they’ll be happy as clams.

Creamer
Creamer
12 days ago
Reply to  Feral Finster

Except they’re not happy right now and can’t buy stuff so this comment makes no sense.

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
12 days ago
Reply to  Creamer

We are going to find out tomorrow how much the average citizen can buy.

Fireworks are the equivalent of lighting money on fire. I’ve been hearing plenty here in Florida over the last week. If there are a lot of fireworks set off tomorrow by average people you’ll know there is still an excess of money out there.

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
11 days ago
Reply to  Creamer

Of course they’re not happy.why should they be happy?

Nobody of influence and authority cares.

Last edited 11 days ago by Feral Finster
Dave Smith
Dave Smith
12 days ago

It is not the service member that should be making challenges by any means, it should be our representatives via legislation or courts or potentially impeachment.

Tony Frank
Tony Frank
12 days ago

Hope this is the first of many. Time for a change before it is too late.

Ed Wullschleger
Ed Wullschleger
12 days ago

I hope you’re wrong about plans to have the military sieze ballots, but I see the same thing!

Augustine
Augustine
12 days ago

People were rushed to high brass because for anything, except their merits and accomplishments. The military has been political since ever.

Obligatory: and the Usonian military has won no war, all of choice, since the Great Colonial War part II.

Creamer
Creamer
12 days ago
Reply to  Augustine

I’m not even a fan of our bloated military but this claim always fails to recall the Gulf War we won easily because Bush Sr. knew when to go home. Blame his dipstick son for the mess in the middle east.

The United States army has been the finest fighting force in the world up until Trump destroyed it, unfortunately it was shackled at the hip to the most inept and corrupt government the free world has ever seen. Vietnam was known to be unwinnable from a military angle before the conflict even started. Just like with Iran, those warnings were ignored by a political class whose wives happened to all be on the Bell helicopter board of directors. GWOT shows the same story of a military hamstrung by a political class only interested in making a profit by keeping the war going.

It is no wonder that now the final nail is going into the coffin as that venomous political caste looks to bring their forever war to the streets of your town.

I’m back robbyrob
I’m back robbyrob
12 days ago
Reply to  Creamer
Sentient
Sentient
12 days ago

True, but mainly because the Iran war laid bare the already-existing fact that the U.S. cannot and will not defend its “allies” (vassals) nearly to the extent they had believed. Taiwan?

Mick
Mick
12 days ago
Reply to  Creamer

You’re absolutely right re: corruption. Our MIC is built for profit, not combat effectiveness U.S. military has been heading towards technological obsolescence for decades. It is neither equipped nor trained to deal with new realities of warfare. The Gulf War was won easily in 1991 because we faced a much weaker adversary. But even then there were warning signs of hubris. Patriot systems were touted to be highly effective but in actuality they had trouble dealing with the primitive Scud missiles. Fast forward to today and while upgraded, Patriot has little effectiveness against the barrages of ballistic and hypersonic weaponry by either Iran or Russia (see analysis by Ted Postol re: low single digit intercept rates). Now even our carrier groups are being challenged, forced to remain hundreds of miles offshore to avoid drone/missile threats. That was once unthinkable.

It’s easy to fall into a mindset based on exceptionalism. I came of age around the time of the Gulf War, and CNN put on a real show of military dominance. The USSR was already collapsing and at the time there was no one to rival our military power. I wish I had been better informed leading up to the 2003 Iraq War. I trusted Colin Powell, and by extension military leadership. The debacle that followed was a reminder that we are not all powerful, but it seems blame was pinned on Dubya/Cheney/Powell with no mind paid to rot that was continuing underneath. Meanwhile, other countries did not stay rooted in old doctrine. Under Putin, Russia continued focus on air defense as well as new missile delivery systems, while Iran studied how U.S./Israel conducted warfare and built vast underground missile complexes.

Now it all comes to a head : shock as people wake up to a new reality. Not only can the U.S. no longer project power anywhere, everywhere, and all at once, but can be resisted and pushed back.

Jon
Jon
12 days ago
Reply to  Mick

Defensive systems are becoming more powerful than offensive systems. That will be the story of the rest of this century. It will spell the end of countries as great military powers. And it will be felt most keenly by hyper- patriotic Americans.

Mick
Mick
12 days ago
Reply to  Jon

How so? It seems that defense is already difficult and increasingly so due to continued advancements in missile capabilities and now drone warfare. Russia has the most advanced air defenses, but despite counters to drones has had difficultly getting that problem under control. The problem for the U.S. is that it appears to continue to make the wrong investments, choosing to build ever more costly and complex platforms which do not address fundamental needs.

Jon
Jon
12 days ago
Reply to  Mick

The fundamental issue is cost. Offensive weapons are increasingly expensive, and are increasingly easily defeated by inexpensive defensive systems. A $6 billion aircraft carrier can be taken out by a barrage of $100,000 rockets. A $2 million tank can be taken out by a $1,000 drone. The F-35 has to be built at $250 million a pop because older systems were easily defeated by far less expensive air defense systems.

The problem is the US is making investments in offensive systems designed to win land, sea and air campaigns. But increasingly even weak countries will be able to afford to defeat those offensive systems. The US should pivot to making defensive systems on a mass scale at far lower cost (like Ukraine). But then we can’t impose our will on other countries.

Mick
Mick
12 days ago
Reply to  Jon

Ah, okay. We have a common understanding of the problem, just using offense/defense differently. I think of those inexpensive drones as offensive weapons (although I understand there now are counter-drone drones).

Jackula
Jackula
12 days ago
Reply to  Mick

Not only can we not project power but we’d be really weak against a first class conventional longe range missile and drone power of which there are two of and the U.S. is not one of them.

Creamer
Creamer
12 days ago
Reply to  Mick

Regardless of the other people in these comments, the real issue is that the modern US has no plans to fight a popular war. This has made the US military obsessed with casualty avoidance because they know damn well no one wants to fight in Iran.

Our military is still technically superior, but that means nothing when it’s heading into a war none of its troops are motivated to carry on with. If America were attacked, we could clobber any opponent with ease. Unfortunately for us, no one wants to attack us and even our enemies are happy to leave us alone on our personal continent. This means all of the theory has to go into ways of fighting wars with a coerced army who has no heart in the conflict.

Said wars never have any scope like WW2 and previous did, this is another factor. In WW2 the idea was to defeat Germany and Japan, very sensible. In the Gulf War we set out to remove Saddam’s army from Kuwait. We did that and left. Then suddenly in Afghanistan it was to destroy an intangible group that may or may not still exist at any time while also building their infrastructure and bringing democracy to a people who kept telling us in no uncertain terms that they did not want that. Or take Vietnam, who we couldn’t invade without bringing China in. What was the win condition? Magically toppling the north via bombing?

We have the tools to win wars in spades, it’s the ability to use them properly we lack.

Sentient
Sentient
12 days ago
Reply to  Creamer

Even if our troops were motivated as hell, we couldn’t conquer Iran. The logistics alone would be impossible.

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
12 days ago
Reply to  Sentient

That’s only true if you have to ‘fight nice’.

If we were able to fight by the rules of WWII it would not be a problem because obviously we’d use biological, chemical and nuclear weapons which would simplify the logistics immensely.

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
12 days ago
Reply to  Augustine

The military wins plenty of wars, once you realize that the stated objective is rarely the real objective.

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