French President Recommends EU Use Anti-Coercion Trade Bazooka Against Trump

And Canada stands fully behind NATO articles 5 and 2, in defense of Greenland.

Europe Weighs Going All-Out

The New York Times reports After Trump Reignites a Trade War Over Greenland, Europe Weighs Going All-Out

In a single post on Saturday night, President Trump upended months of progress on trade negotiations with an ultimatum that puts Europe on a crash course with the United States — long its closest ally and suddenly one of its biggest threats.

In the Truth Social post, Mr. Trump demanded a deal to buy Greenland, saying that otherwise he would slap tariffs on a group of European nations, first 10 percent in February, then 25 percent in June.

It appeared to leave little room for Europe to maneuver or negotiate in a harsh and combative era of geopolitics. It also left Europe with few options to counter Mr. Trump without repercussions.

European leaders are loath to accept the forced takeover of an autonomous territory that is controlled by Denmark, a member of both NATO and the European Union.

Officials and outside analysts increasingly argue that Europe will need to respond to Mr. Trump with force — namely by hitting back on trade. But doing so could come at a heavy cost to both the bloc’s economy and its security, since Europe remains heavily reliant on the United States for support through NATO and in Russia’s war with Ukraine.

“We either fight a trade war, or we’re in a real war,” said Jacob Funk Kirkegaard, a senior fellow at Bruegel, a research institute in Brussels.

Within hours of the post, members of the European Parliament announced that they would freeze the ratification of the trade deal that Mr. Trump and Ursula von der Leyen, the president of the European Commission, struck last summer. And members of European Parliament are openly calling for trade retaliation. Ambassadors from across the 27-nation bloc gathered in Brussels on Sunday for an emergency meeting, diplomats said.

Europe has a trade weapon specifically created to defend against political coercion quickly and forcefully, and as Mr. Trump’s threats sank in, policymakers argued that this is the time to wield it.

The tool — officially called the “anti-coercion instrument,” unofficially called Europe’s trade “bazooka” — could be used to slap limitations on big American technology companies or other service providers that do large amounts of business on the continent. But using it would sharply ratchet up trans-Atlantic tensions.

Mr. Macron will request, on behalf of France, the activation of the anti-coercion trade tool, a senior French official said on Sunday.

Even Keir Starmer, the prime minister of Britain — which, like Norway, is not in the European Union, but was listed among the countries that will be slapped with tariffs — called Mr. Trump’s tariff move “completely wrong.” Mr. Starmer has carefully cultivated a positive relationship with the White House.

Macron to Seek Use of EU Anti-Coercion Tool

Bloomberg reports Macron to Seek Use of EU Anti-Coercion Tool as Calls to Retaliate Grow

French President Emmanuel Macron will request the activation of the European Union’s anti-coercion instrument amid increasing calls for the region to retaliate against US President Donald Trump’s new tariffs on European countries over Greenland.

Macron, who on Saturday branded the threat of tariffs “unacceptable,” was in contact with European counterparts and would make the request to use the ACI — the bloc’s most powerful retaliatory tool — on behalf of France, according to a person close to the president who requested anonymity to comply with government rules.

EU national ambassadors will meet Sunday to discuss the bloc’s next steps, another person familiar with the matter said earlier.

Germany’s SPD parliamentary group — part of Chancellor Friedrich Merz’s ruling coalition — called for the European Commission to act quickly and come up with “concrete countermeasures” against the US. The German government is considering all responses to Trump’s tariff threat, but so far hasn’t decided on any specific measures, according to a person familiar with the plans.

Manfred Weber, president of the European People’s Party, the largest political group in the European Parliament, said on Saturday that approval of the EU’s trade deal with the US is no longer possible.

Finland’s Prime Minister Petteri Orpo warned that the European Union “has the means to respond” though he said he didn’t want to “see that happen.” Speaking to YLE radio, he said he has requested an extraordinary meeting of the European Council to coordinate and develop a common strategy among European countries and Denmark.

While the EU’s anti-coercion instrument has never been used, it was designed primarily as a deterrent, and if needed, to respond to deliberate coercive actions from third countries that use trade measures as a means to pressure the policy choices of the EU or its members.

Those measures could include tariffs, new taxes on tech companies or targeted curbs on investments in the EU. They could also involve limiting access to certain parts of the EU market or restricting firms from bidding for public contracts in Europe.

Weapon of Last Resort

Bloomberg comments Why ‘Anti-Coercion’ Tool Is the EU’s Trade Weapon of Last Resort

What is the anti-coercion instrument?

It’s the EU’s strongest tool to retaliate against economic or trade duress by a third country. If the bloc decides that it’s being coerced, the ACI would give it cover to hit back with a range of punishments targeting the offending country’s access to one of the world’s biggest and most lucrative markets in goods and services.

The EU sees the ACI’s true purpose not as retaliation so much as deterrence, as its provisions are so potentially damaging to a trade partner that the mere threat of applying it means countries will think twice before using trade as a diplomatic weapon.

What is coercion in trade?

Trade coercion is the practice of applying trade instruments such as tariffs, anti-dumping measures, quotas and other tools that inflict harm on a trade partner for reasons that aren’t justified under the generally accepted rules of international trade, and which don’t directly address any recognized imbalance or injustice in the trading relationship. The goal instead is to impose economic costs on the target in an arbitrary way as part of a broader diplomatic dispute.

The Bloomberg article was written with a focus on, and references to China. The spotlight now is on the US.

Trump has threatened tariffs on eight European countries if they do not agree to let him buy Greenland. That’s coercion.

The stupid part of Trump’s demand is the matter is between Denmark, Greenland, and the US. The EU has no say in the decision.

Tariffs as a Weapon

Trump is repeatedly using tariffs as a weapon, not as a trade matter.

At a minimum he did it to Brazil, India, Canada, Mexico, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, The United Kingdom, The Netherlands, and Finland.

Might Supreme Court Justices be editing their opinions over this?

I hope so, but doubt it.

Mark Carney Canadian Prime Minister

Canada Would Fight the US

Carney: “The future of Greenland is a decision for Greenland and for the kingdom of Denmark. We are NATO partners with Denmark and so our full partnership stands. Our obligations on Article 5, Article 2 stand. We stand fully behind them.”

NATO Treaty

NATO’s Article 5 is the cornerstone of collective defense, stating an attack on one member is an attack on all, obligating others to assist (including with armed force if necessary). In contrast, NATO’s Article 2 (often cited as Article II in the Status of Forces Agreement or SOFA) focuses on promoting stability and free institutions, while the treaty’s Article 2 (Washington Treaty) emphasizes economic cooperation and peaceful dispute resolution among members.

NATO Members are obliged to protect Greenland from an invasion by the US.

I cheer Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney’s forceful stand against Trump.

Denmark Cuts Diplomatic Ties With US

Good, why speak with a proven liar?

EU to Halt US Trade Deal Over Trump’s New Greenland Tariff on 8 Countries

Yesterday, I noted EU to Halt US Trade Deal Over Trump’s New Greenland Tariff on 8 Countries

Trump threatens the EU with more tariffs. The EU has reacted in kind.

Trump Will Take Greenland the ‘Easy Way’ or the ‘Hard Way’ by Force

On January 10, 2026, I noted Trump Will Take Greenland the ‘Easy Way’ or the ‘Hard Way’ by Force

Let me put this politely: The brazenness and gall of this arrogant, ignorant ass is stunning.

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Frosty
Frosty
2 months ago

The EPSTEIN coverup continues…

When is the US credit downgrade coming?

realityczech
realityczech
2 months ago

lol, the paranoia continues.

MelvinRich
MelvinRich
2 months ago

Fair fight. Thirteen Danes and 4 Canadian volunteers will take on the 101 st Airborne Division.

Quatloo
Quatloo
2 months ago
Reply to  MelvinRich

The Germans were contributing 15 soldiers as well!

You name it
You name it
2 months ago

Eugyptius always worth a read and excellent commentator on Europe, living in Germany. Start your week with a few smiles in your face, his sarcasm is hard to top. Only way to survive these days..

“NATO crisis deepens as Trump demands Denmark cede Greenland to the United States following the failure of the Nobel Committee to award him the Peace Prize
https://www.eugyppius.com/p/nato-crisis-deepens-as-trump-demands?”

Rickmensworth
Rickmensworth
2 months ago

While the US slow destroys itself through isolation (you vote for this nutter by majority), the real villains are the US mega corporations who were very happy to profit from cheap labour in China. They told them how to manufacture at scale, knowhow, tech and money to do so. The Chinese learn quickly. Now 20 years later the US blames China for its downfall and the Apples etc get away with it, untouched. The irony.

Mike
Mike
2 months ago

Will this be the domino that causes POTUS to withdraw support from Ukraine?

Doug78
Doug78
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike

possible

Last edited 2 months ago by Doug78
You name it
You name it
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike

Wasn’t the Ukraine “theatre” handed over to the European vassals a while ago? Except supplying GPS target coordinates and other “military intelligence” (a contradiction within itself) items to the UK main aggressor of course.

David Heartland
David Heartland
2 months ago

Next up: EU will wage war with the USA and the USA will pay for it through NATO.

THE M.I.C. always wins! Nuclear war on the table. Trump will attack South Dakota first.

Rogerroger
Rogerroger
2 months ago

I read a good point somewhere. Beside covering up the Epstein files. Its the only way trump can get out of nato.

Mike
Mike
2 months ago
Reply to  Rogerroger

Makes me wonder regarding other EU leader island visitor names mentioned in the Epstein files.

abcd
abcd
2 months ago

Could it be that theyre trying to start world war 3 just to have an excuse to print more money to devalue debts? This is why it is important to elect fiscally responsible govt reps but most people and voters pay little attention to govt budget issues as long as things are going fairly smooth in their personal situation. Large deficit spending has given a false sense of normalcy but maybe getting a lot harder to kick the can. They could put on this charade type war, shoot missiles here and there at things with little or no people for dramatic effect, which would still be terrible of course with any lives lost, but relatively better if there were as little life loss as possible, because people dying would create strong opposition, but being “at war”, they could then claim necessity turn on the money printers like crazy. Could be why theres seemingly little opposition from the “other party”, which I’m skeptical of anyway, seeing it as more of a uniparty, as there is virtually no objection from nearly all the Republicans and Democrats, to endless debt spending, so they would nearly all want to devalue the debt if possible, but that would of course cause a lot of inflation, with again the excuse that our whole existence is at stake.

K.V.Sadasivan
K.V.Sadasivan
2 months ago

And the bazooka reportedly is worth $ 8 Trillion of/in, US assets.

Brian
Brian
2 months ago

“…since Europe remains heavily reliant on the United States for support through NATO and in Russia’s war with Ukraine”

This really isn’t true! Russia’s military forces have been so weakened by the war in Ukraine that they’re not much of a threat to the rest of Europe for the forseeable future. And European nations have considerable military resources of their own. Up until now they’ve been reluctant to “flex” these assets, preferring to remain dependent on the U.S. to a dangerous degree. This is mostly due to the structure of the EU and its “government by bureaucrats” rather than politicians.

Also, Europe is not reliant on the U.S. at all anymore with regard to Ukraine because the U.S. has essentially stopped assisting Ukraine since last summer. Favours Trump owes to Putin for past and future “considerations” are being paid back as Putin increasingly fears that he will lose the war and possibly even find himself hanging from a lamppost, Benito Mussolini-style Trump is obviously doing his best to prevent this from happening.

K.V.Sadasivan
K.V.Sadasivan
2 months ago
Reply to  Brian

Possibly Trump may meet with Mussolini’s fate.

Frosty
Frosty
2 months ago

From and economic perspective the “Greenland Insanity” trade seems to be in the precious metals like gold and silver. Perhaps it will cause some volatility, so the VIX might pop as well.

The stock market is not open but the futures markets are. On the open this evening Gold promptly went up a hundred bucks to $4,698 and Silver broke above $94 for the first time.

Not a full trading desk at the COMEX but they are shitting bricks at the LME. London is decidedly short both paper contracts and their inventory is depleted. A few European banks may find themselves insolvent if this continues.

We live in interesting times!

bmcc
bmcc
2 months ago
Reply to  Frosty

one ounce silver american eagle will cost you about 108USD if you want only a few. a few bucks less for big quanties. check out apmex or kitco……..

bmcc
bmcc
2 months ago
Reply to  bmcc

almost 4900 for gold eagle……..for a few coins……..

Frosty
Frosty
2 months ago
Reply to  bmcc

1 coin… 1 ounce…

bmcc
bmcc
2 months ago
Reply to  Frosty

i meant the price is lower when buying in bulk.

Frosty
Frosty
2 months ago
Reply to  bmcc

The US mint suspended sales of Silver Eagles on Wednesday. The price of the one troy ounce silver eagle went from $91 to $165 ~ but they are unavailable. The Canadian mint suspended silver sales yesterday.

I was looking at buying a monster box from Liberty Coin on Friday night and they had 10 of them. By Saturday morning at 11:00 they were unavailable.

There are some coins available out there but they are speedy! I wish I’d bought more when they were cheap. Oh well at least I have lots of mining shares and they have all quadrupled in the last three years. I think they have room to run as the mining companies margins have exploded.

bmcc
bmcc
2 months ago
Reply to  Frosty

i think you nailed it a few weeks ago. the silver is moving out of lower manhattan and new jersey, warehouses to shanghai. this happens in war times. and times when empires collapse. most of the gold out of the new world by the spanish empire was purchased on the docks by the chinese in the 1800s when the spanish empire was going bust and their colonies rebelling……….i think the same is happening to the amerikan empire. i suspect we shall have a rough time the next 3 to 10 years here……..like when the ussr collapsed in on itself. i had pals both CIA and Polish intellectuals from Columbia U in the 80s that were helping Lech Walesa and the dockworkers. saw russia in the 90s with my own eyes………so many wild things i saw. my investment banker russian pals got me inside the boardrooms of the biggest oil and timber and gold mining companies in Russia. saw what happened to the common person too. biggest take away. the 20 and 30 somethings could adjust the geezers north of 40 were paralyzed and wanted to go back to being ruled from cradle to grave.

bmcc
bmcc
2 months ago
Reply to  Frosty

i’ve spent a lifetime keeping half my networth in gold and silver. close by and as far away as possible for emergency situations. been doing it since i was a child. had parents and uncles….. that lived through stuff. great depression and fighting in ww2……..

Frosty
Frosty
2 months ago
Reply to  bmcc

Given your experience, I guess that is reasonable. I never was a stacker because quite frankly, I never thought that the US would fall apart. Now things are obviously different and my mining stocks are carrying the day.

One of the issues concerning silver miners that has popped up is where the metal is refined. PAAS owns 44% of a refinery in Mexico in conjunction with one of its mines.

Gold miner AEM refines 8+ million ounces as a co-product of their 3.5 million ounces of gold production.

This is only important because 60+% of Silver is refined in China.

Frosty
Frosty
2 months ago
Reply to  Frosty

The US Mint has resumed limited Silver Eagle coin sales.

At $169.00 per uncirculated coin. Holy Shit!

bmcc
bmcc
2 months ago
Reply to  Frosty

i own PAAS. thanks to your recommendation in the recent past. i’ve owned it over the years before. i concur with your analysis on metals and miners and trump. i think we will be ok. the state houses and county seats will be more important to us all in the next 1 to 10 years as the empire is going berserk in the imperial cities of DC/NYC. the world is isolating us, obviously. remember what happened when the world isolated south africa. can destroy an economy. i had a few white south african pals in NYC in the 80s. many black south african pals. i attended the ticker tape parade for nelson mandela. at 20 floors above lower broadway tossing reams of computer paper to add to the jubilation. i think when trump is gone in 3 years or before by whatever means, the world will have a ticket tape parade like NYC does. thanks for all your recommendations and analysis. you have a wealth of knowledge. which of the farmland REITS do you like ? if any. thanks. in advance.

Frosty
Frosty
2 months ago
Reply to  bmcc

You are welcome! I am a fan of owning farmland outright and have not looked into the REITS. Wish I could help.

You name it
You name it
2 months ago
Reply to  bmcc

Nothing like a good old family tradition.. Congrats!

bmcc
bmcc
2 months ago
Reply to  You name it

thanks. i was a small child of five when LBJ took the silver out of the coins. spent the next decade going through endless bags of coins my mom acquired at the banks, the grocers, the butchers bakers and candle stick makers……….we sifted through them and kept the pure silver ones. they were still circulating for a decade or so. we had bank bags by the dozens of “junk silver”. cost basis was 1 dollar per ounce. labor was me, and my brat brother. we worked for food and shelter.

MelvinRich
MelvinRich
2 months ago
Reply to  bmcc

Back in the 70’s I was concerned that the system was failing and it nearly did. I purchased a lot of gold and silver in preparation. It’s probably prudent to own 5% at most in metals. Without Volcker’s double dip recession, it probably would have totally collapsed.

You name it
You name it
2 months ago
Reply to  MelvinRich

> It’s probably prudent to own 5% at most in metals.

That was in the old days. Gone with the wind. Just like the 60/40 portfolio. Anything up to 50% of your available liquidity, preferably in physical metals, a good idea. If you were invested 15% three or four years ago (instead of 5) you’ve reached the 50% target just by doing nothing. Who would have imagined the gold bugs were really right. I got suspicious and allocated funds accordingly when politics were going berserk here in Europe with governments killing their peoples through the toxic gene injections in 22. In plain sight for everyone to see.

bmcc
bmcc
2 months ago
Reply to  You name it

yup. owning gold and silver is akin to owning cash. it’s money.

David Heartland
David Heartland
2 months ago
Reply to  Frosty

Trump will announce the confiscation of all Citizen-held precious metals.
DONE!

David Heartland
David Heartland
2 months ago

…and they will use Alaska Troops, ICE and BORDER CONTROL agents to seek out and kill Citizens if they push back.

SCORCHED EARTH POLICY.

bmcc
bmcc
2 months ago

the rich men in the 1930s all took their gold bars to toronto banks or just hid them in their mansions.

MelvinRich
MelvinRich
2 months ago
Reply to  Frosty

I now buy Ounz and gld etfs. Selling gold and silver can be a problem. Our etfs have appreciated 3 to 4 times and are liquid. Back in the 70’s I bought Carson city silver dollars from the government. I’d go through the shipment and sell the one’s with numismatic value and hoard the balance. The Mint doesn’t do this to my knowledge in 2026.

Dean Falk
Dean Falk
2 months ago

Wars national emergencies trade wars and lawfare against politicians what does this add up to?
Dictatorship tyranny fascism and money going to Donny and his henchmen
Watch the money watch the shady deals this clown prince Donny is the biggest thief in US history
This clown prince never worked an honest day in his life
Chickenhawk
Draft dodging ass wipe will send our sons and daughters to war

Jojo
Jojo
2 months ago

For your attention!

Trump: The Best is Yet to Come

by Amir Taheri

January 18, 2026 

• The most remarkable feature of the year in question is Trump’s success, perhaps unintentionally, in desacralizing power by opening it to the agora with TV cameras that delineate its contours.

• The 9-to-5 political day is gone.

• With Trump, we have seen the end, at least for the time being, of the era of grandiloquence in favor of simple, right-to-the-point quips that remind one of Gary Cooper in his Westerns. “We’re locked and loaded!” is one example.

• He has shaken the United Nations by withdrawing from dozens of “international” agencies acting as gravy trains for the “progressive” elite of tax-exempt bureaucrats and technocrats, all card-carrying members of the Blame-America-First fraternity.

• Also shaken out of its slumber has been the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, which had morphed into a lobbying and public relations outfit rather than a military machine to fight putative aggressors. Trump has persuaded NATO members that unless they are ready to at least wash their dishes, the American “room service” might not rush in the dinner trolley.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/22205/trump-best-to-come

Peace
Peace
2 months ago

Europe is opening “three war fronts”, namely Russia, China and USA.
Europe is too dependent on all three to fight all three at once:

Power——– Europe Needs Them For. ———-Importance level

Russia——– Energy & neighborhood stability —Very high
China——— Trade, growth, industrial inputs—– Irreplaceable
USA———– Security, finance, technology——- Existential

Europe is foolishly put all eggs in one basket subservient to US.
Europe will collapse if keep on fighting for one more year.

Last edited 2 months ago by Peace
David
David
2 months ago
Reply to  Peace

Europe is all talk. On 3 fronts.

Mak
Mak
2 months ago
Reply to  Peace

How is Europe opening any war?

They are responding to one war (Russia) and one idiot (Trump).

Oh and Europe doesn’t need the US for security, finance or technology. They have plenty of that themselves. WAKE UP. You clear have no idea of the powerhouse of the EU economy.

The CPU technology (ARM) that your phone runs on is European. But technology is the most global of most products. Design might be in US/Europe, manufacture in Asian, but manufacturing of the chip tooling in Europe.

You name it
You name it
2 months ago
Reply to  Mak

Thanks. Good to hear some positive news on Europe.

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago

The EU has an anti-coercion rule? That’s like vampires having an anti-biting rule.
Does Macron’s husband approve of this?

pokercat
pokercat
2 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

Just like trump you are a clown, but not funny.

Observer
Observer
2 months ago

I wonder if this Greenland “theater show” is to create a confrontation with Europe in order for the US to leave NATO.

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago
Reply to  Observer

Hopefully

Gerhard Parker
Gerhard Parker
2 months ago
Reply to  Observer

‘In the public domain – in inter-national or within-nation conflicts
of all kinds, including wars (of all kinds) we seldom know – are seldom
told – what that fight is *really *about, what really *motivates *the two sides who have created, sustained and escalated the fight.
 
My best guess is that almost-all real wars at present are about something quite other than the explicit, publicly proclaimed, reasons for war.’

Timely comment.

El Capitan
El Capitan
2 months ago
Reply to  Observer

On the orders of Putin

pokercat
pokercat
2 months ago
Reply to  Observer

All about Epstein and cover for pedophiles.

Frosty
Frosty
2 months ago
Reply to  pokercat

Bingo!

David
David
2 months ago
Reply to  Observer

excellent thought

Dean Falk
Dean Falk
2 months ago
Reply to  Observer

Possibly or to cause chaos but also Ron Lauder his billionaire buddy told him about rare earth minerals in Greenland

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
2 months ago

“Let me put this politely: The brazenness and gall of this arrogant, ignorant ass is stunning.”

Sorry but it’s not just him. There’s a reason there is a very active subreddit called “Boomers Being Fools” and I hate to use a broad brush to judge people but this level of insanity could only be brought to you by someone on the verge (or in) dementia, Alzheimer’s or some other type of mental illness (extreme narcissism coupled with sociopath-ism). Add to it the fact that the gutless and brainless geriatric repub controlled congress rubber stamps most of his activity. Ditto for geriatric and clueless SCOTUS. Trump is a true reflection of his base in every way, shape, and demonic form.

Good luck to those of you staying…we’ll see how hot the pot water needs to boil before you lobsters wake up and feel the burn.

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
2 months ago

I wish the Europeans would target Trump and his cabinet members and other enablers specifically. We do this hostile foreign powers like Putin. They should confiscate all of his property including the goddamn golf course in Scotland.

This Greenland shit is wildly unpopular in America and only the most abjectly retarded MAGA are offering any support for the idea. The Europeans would be wise to target the real problem as directly as possible, and that is Trump and his cabinet members and any members of Congress or the Senate who are not on record saying this is criminal and retarded.

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago
Reply to  Phil in CT

I like the idea of taking his golf course, but based on recent precedent, that might result in the US kidnapping Starmer – or maybe Queen Charles.

Doug78
Doug78
2 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

And installing King Harry and Queen Meghan?

Dean Falk
Dean Falk
2 months ago
Reply to  Phil in CT

Scottland should turn it into a goat farm and put wind power turbines and solar panels there plus a junk yard scrap yard and name it after Donny the clown prince

Frosty
Frosty
2 months ago
Reply to  Dean Falk

It is one windy place. Last time I was there there were huge spiders in many of the rooms. I think after golfing Adare Manor, St Andrews and Old Head we called it Turdberry…

Brian
Brian
2 months ago
Reply to  Phil in CT

Suspending royalty payments to U.S. patent holders is the heavy artillery that would REALLY hurt U.S. business, especially the tech bros who kissed Trump’s ring. But nobody in Europe seems to be talking about it. Yet. It’s being discussed in Canada though.

Brian
Brian
2 months ago
Reply to  Brian

Oh and in addition to authorizing the use of U.S. patents without the consent of/payment to patent holders, foreign governments could also stop the enforcement of copyright held by U.S. firms. This would cause SERIOUS damage to Hollywood and the politicians who feed off of it.

I don’t know if the EU’s anti-coercion instrument contains these “nuclear” measures but if it doesn’t, it seems like a serious deficiency to me.

Phil Malter
Phil Malter
2 months ago

Hear, hear!

Gerhard Parker
Gerhard Parker
2 months ago

The conversation has gotten so stupid — and dishonest — what one thing is claimed to be about is really just the most recent veiled excuse to push another.

The EU has of course NO substantial military response. That’s the whole point of not just the past 4 years but beyond.

Do you not see YET (there’s been 40 years to see it) that European states and esp. the EU run on nothing but bureaucratic arrogance that enable centralized control?

These ‘leaders’ get together to make another statement that assumes the outcome they want without having learned or listened to anyone else.

That’s the past 4 years of the Ukraine war–that killed over a million Ukrainians and 200,000 Russians. Totally unnecessary.

Carney? The globalist parasite from the Bank of England who’s never seen a plan to centralize that doesn’t work for HIM.

Sometimes its so ridiculous its not even worth responding to. And that’s where the country and elsewhere are heading==conversation is itself a degradation.

Tollsforthee
Tollsforthee
2 months ago
Reply to  Gerhard Parker

“Killed a million Russians and 200,000 Ukrainians”. Fixed it for you, or we found another Russian bot.

Gerhard Parker
Gerhard Parker
2 months ago
Reply to  Tollsforthee

ITs so telling that you seem to think there’s a difference.

That’s where the problem is.

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago
Reply to  Tollsforthee

Mainstream media-consuming dullard. Even Biden admitted he was sending anti personnel shells because we were out of 155 mm artillery shells. Russia has been firing shells at a 7:1 ratio (at least) compared to Ukraine. Russia alone has standoff glide bombs. Russia started off behind in drones but has been producing over 1,000 / day for over a year. They have virtually unlimited fuel supply and vastly outnumber the Ukraine’s press-ganged army. And yet they’ve had more deaths? It makes zero sense. Media Zona – and organization of Russian opposition members operating out of Latvia, had been keeping a tally of Russian deaths using open source social media until their findings posed a problem to Ukraine’s bullshit narrative. They stopped at around 75,000 which would correlate to a current total of no more than 200,000.

PapaDave
PapaDave
2 months ago
Reply to  Gerhard Parker

If its not worth replying, then stop.

CJW
CJW
2 months ago
Reply to  Gerhard Parker

I think this is all just sabre rattling in terms of a military response. I can’t see congress approving going to war against NATO. The implications are enormous and the results would literally bring the US to its knees economically (along with the rest of the world).

dtj
dtj
2 months ago

How come it’s taking so long for the Supreme Court to rule on tariffs? (rhetorical question)

The SC could easily put a much needed check on Trump’s power by striking down or greatly limiting his ’emergency’ tariffs powers.

I’ve always been skeptical of the SC. Their rulings are almost always politically driven. Will they support Trump or not?

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
2 months ago
Reply to  dtj

The supreme court is infected with the same molasses virus as Merrick Garland was. Trump’s move fast and break things strategy has revealed the outdated speed at which our government operates.
They say the wheels of justice turn slowly but grind very fine, but it seems like they have stopped turning altogether.

Last edited 2 months ago by Phil in CT
techolver14159
techolver14159
2 months ago
Reply to  dtj

I believe this SC has lost all legitimacy. It will be decades before it can regain its legitimacy with the US population. Everyone believes the current SC is completely and totally political. What a shame for an institution that took centuries to form its reputation.

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
2 months ago
Reply to  techolver14159

I think it should be expanded to 13 or even more justices. There should be a broader range of ideas there. The idea that we’re stuck with this gang of duds, especially the openly corrupt Thomas, is galling.

Jojo
Jojo
2 months ago
Reply to  techolver14159

In decades we will be governed by an AI. All laws will be executed at AI speed.

Doug78
Doug78
2 months ago
Reply to  dtj

They are taking their time because there is no reason for urgency. The Left has moved on to other things and the complaints are now limited to the WSJ and Libertarians. Companies have adapted better now so the topic is old news.

Brutus Admirer
Brutus Admirer
2 months ago

As stupid as the Greenland initiative is, it would sure be a silver lining it if it led to extricating the US from NATO. I know I’m dreaming.

Frosty
Frosty
2 months ago
Reply to  Brutus Admirer

Are you Russian? Or just stupid?

Brutus Admirer
Brutus Admirer
2 months ago
Reply to  Frosty

Britain has twice as many in prison for speech violations as Russia. What are we protecting Britain from? A chief reason the US can never do anything about the Swamp is stupid foreign adventurism…Iraq, Kososovo, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Ukraine, Israel, Iran… Forever war = the health of the State.

Lark
Lark
2 months ago

NATO may have issues, but it is invaluable to a stable world. The Republicans need to gather some of their missing nuts and drive a resolution preventing Trump from making any more executable threats to the alliance. He appears to have lost his grounding.

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago
Reply to  Lark

Yes, we could never have wasted 20 years, thousands of deaths and trillions of dollars in Afghanistan to exchange the Taliban for the Taliban without the cover of NATO. And how else – without NATO – could we have destroyed Libya and left it in the hands of ISIS? It’s invaluable, I tell you. Invaluable.

Last edited 2 months ago by Sentient
Doug78
Doug78
2 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

Libya was not a NATO operation.

bmcc
bmcc
2 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

obama let the french fighter jets do the first bombing runs in libya. due to placating the domestic french politics………at the time. that was a war crime……….

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

Hillary planned the whole thing with James Stavridis when he was NATO Supreme Allied Commander.

Last edited 2 months ago by Sentient
David Kurtz
David Kurtz
2 months ago

It’s my hope that this is the have you no decency moment that took place during the makarthey hearings. And the fever finally broke. The west has been moving in the wrong direction for the last 40 years drunk with power and hubris.

Hmk
Hmk
2 months ago

If the market reacts negatively to this he will wet his pants and back down . TACO. It is sad from the poll to see that 60% of Republicans agree with Trump on Greenland. Trump needs to be removed from office somehow.

Hmk
Hmk
2 months ago
Reply to  Hmk

I can’t believe his advisors don’t tell him to STFU

Tollsforthee
Tollsforthee
2 months ago
Reply to  Hmk

Do you think any of them were hired to give him expert advice?

They were hired because they looked good on TV and were willing to defend any asinine ridiculousness.

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
2 months ago
Reply to  Tollsforthee

He hired a talking head with a drinking problem to run defense, lol

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago
Reply to  Phil in CT

At least John Tower swore off booze. The senate still rejected him – because they knew him.

Tenacious D
Tenacious D
2 months ago
Reply to  Hmk

They were selected precisely because they will not.

J K
J K
2 months ago

Totally agree Mish. We didn’t vote for more wars nor taking over countries. Trump has lost his mind.

Liberte
Liberte
2 months ago

Why did the Nato treaties not apply to the French war to retain Algeria and its other colonial territories?

Avery2
Avery2
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

Neither was French Indo-China.

Tollsforthee
Tollsforthee
2 months ago
Reply to  Liberte

By definition, France wasn’t being attacked from external forces. It was internal rebellion from their colonial subjects.

Tezza
Tezza
2 months ago

The EU could suspend buying U. S. arms and stop supplying Ukraine. That would get President Trump’s attention.

Toutatis
Toutatis
2 months ago
Reply to  Tezza

Yes, but the EU ideology claims that Russia is about to invade Europe; they keep trying to scare the population, with little success. How will they justify stopping the purchase of American weapons, the main tool for their plan to stop Russia? Many people will realize that they are not serious about the Russian threat, something they are already aware of on many other issues.

Tollsforthee
Tollsforthee
2 months ago
Reply to  Toutatis

It’s incredible how tiny Ukraine is able to hold off mighty Russia, if, as you say, Europe isn’t “serious”.

Mark
Mark
2 months ago
Reply to  Tollsforthee

NATO is ready to fight battles on two fronts ?
When do we arrive in Berlin?

Doug78
Doug78
2 months ago
Reply to  Mark

Europe wants to start a two-front war it seems. Maybe this is the German Influence within the EU. They have a habit of doing this.

PapaDave
PapaDave
2 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

It’s Putin and Trump that are attacking other countries. And Trump threatening to attack more. Not the EU. The EU is trying to prevent further wars.

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
2 months ago
Reply to  Tezza

Why would the EU punish a future member like that?

Name
Name
2 months ago

seems that emmanuel maron knows how to do everything except,
 right by the people of France

Doug78
Doug78
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

Not many of the French agree with that either. They don’t care about Greenland nor Denmark for that matter and they know Macron is acting.

PapaDave
PapaDave
2 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

Simple question Doug. Do you support the US taking Greenland by military force?

Avery2
Avery2
2 months ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Aren’t there bases on it already, since the 1940s?

PapaDave
PapaDave
2 months ago
Reply to  Avery2

Yes. Greenland has always been open to US bases. At it’s peak, we had over 20 bases, outposts, and radar installations there. Today we have just one base and one radar. We have closed the rest of them since the end of WW2.

However, all we have to do is ask and they will accept more.

Jojo
Jojo
2 months ago
Reply to  PapaDave

But it isn’t military bases that Trump really wants in Greenland. He wants the mineral wealth and he wants to lock-up control and access to those resources for his family and friends.

Røbber Bårons

The Oligarchs Pushing for Conquest in Greenland

Trump’s fixation on filching the island territory from Denmark may seem like the demented ravings of a mad king. But to a cohort of plutocrat weirdos, it makes perfect sense.

Casey Michel

January 13, 2026.

Donald Trump’s fixation on seizing Greenland has generated plenty of confusion, hand-wringing, and alarm. But one question has always stood at the center: Why? Why has Trump perseverated so heavily, and so suddenly, on this distant island, with its few people and even fewer connections to the United States?

According to Trump, much of it has to do with national security. “We have to have it,” the president has said time and again. As Trump claims—and in direct contradiction to any evidence at hand—Greenland is apparently crawling with Russian and Chinese ships, presenting a national security crisis that annexation alone will solve. Seizing Greenland is also part of the emerging “Donroe Doctrine,” in which the U.S. has the right to intervene, and even seize, any lands within the Western hemisphere that it feels like taking.

But there’s another element to this Greenland obsession that hasn’t gotten nearly enough attention—and it is just as important to Trump’s designs on plundering Greenland and claiming the island as America’s: money. Specifically, the money set to be gained by the kinds of oligarchic interests that have long backed Trump, and that now stand to benefit from American suzerainty over Greenland. To update another phrase, which we’ve seen recently race to the fore in Venezuela: It’s about looting the resources, stupid.

https://newrepublic.com/article/205102/oligarchs-pushing-conquest-greenland-trump

PapaDave
PapaDave
2 months ago
Reply to  Jojo

There are already three US companies with mining operations in Greenland. Greenland would welcome more if they provide jobs and economic growth. The problem is that 80% of Greenland is covered by a mile of ice which will take over a 1000 years to melt. There really isn’t that much area to work with.

Taking Greenland isn’t about the resources. It’s a trophy for Trump. He likes trophies.

Tollsforthee
Tollsforthee
2 months ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Exactly. People don’t seem to realize that there are millions of tons of ores in much cheaper regions.

Jojo
Jojo
2 months ago
Reply to  Tollsforthee

Like China?

Jojo
Jojo
2 months ago
Reply to  PapaDave

The problem is that 80% of Greenland is covered by a mile of ice which will take over a 1000 years to melt. “

Hire Somalis with flame throwers to melt the ice!

Doug78
Doug78
2 months ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Bush closed them when the USSR fell. There was the Dew Line. I notice that Canada has not withdrawn its participation in Norad. The Canadian commander is still there and doesn’t seem to be going anywhere.

PapaDave
PapaDave
2 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

I wouldn’t expect him to. Canada lives up to their agreements.

Last edited 2 months ago by PapaDave
Phil in CT
Phil in CT
2 months ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Doug has to see what Trump farts out first, he’s waiting for his opinion to arrive.

Doug78
Doug78
2 months ago
Reply to  PapaDave

No unless it was urgent like in WW II but I do support putting maximum pressure short of that to achieve an acceptable outcome for US security.

PapaDave
PapaDave
2 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

Why maximum pressure? They already have access to Greenland’s resources and additional military bases for security. All they have to do is ask.

Doug78
Doug78
2 months ago
Reply to  PapaDave

PapaDave. When you have to ask permission it means you don’t have control and that permission can be withdrawn at the will of the other party at the time if their choosing. In Greenland’s case there is a reason why the US has been trying to buy it for the last 150 years and if you can’t figure out why by now then I can’t help you. You say Denmark is a friend so we have no problem but there is no reason to believe that it will always be a friend because situations change and they can change rapidly. If you build major installations that are key to your defense and then you “friend” says get out it is pretty obvious that you won’t just leave and will have to take it over anyway so you might as well be honest about it and say what you want and negotiate.

If you were truly interested in the topic you would have studied the role of Greenland and Iceland in WW II and perhaps knew how and why Iceland voted for independence from Denmark in 1944 and why Denmark never recognized its independence till 1951 and only after extreme pressure from the US and UK. It is very much germane to Greenland today. If you want to discuss this then we can but you are going to have to do some homework on the subject before.

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
2 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

Are you the same person who was lying in an earlier post about there being some kind of support in Greenland itself for Trump’s agenda?

There is unity across the political spectrum in France opposing Trump’s move to take Greenland. Greenlanders themselves are 85-90% opposed.

Last edited 2 months ago by Phil in CT
Doug78
Doug78
2 months ago
Reply to  Phil in CT

You didn’t study the political environment there I see and just read a couple of polls put out by supporters of Denmark.

PapaDave
PapaDave
2 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

Then show us the evidence of Greenland support for a US takeover.

PapaDave
PapaDave
2 months ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Come on Doug. Show us the evidence. Otherwise we will think that you just make these things up.

Doug78
Doug78
2 months ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Sorry to respond to your query late but it was night over here and I do like to sleep at night.

Doug78
Doug78
2 months ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Greenlanders do not want to become part of the US but they do want independence from Denmark. Of all the parties but one that represents 16% want independence. The only difference is the timing and the conditions which are mainly economic. A good offer does change the economic conditions considerably. Note that ideally the US would want to own Greenland but the next best thing would be to for it to be independent but with US influence and no more influence from Denmark and Europe generally. The type of association would be the bulk of the negotiations.

Here is the link to the poll taken in January 2025:

Virtually no Greenlanders want to join the US, new poll finds | Euractiv

It’s from a Danish paper and the poll was done by a Danish agency. The title is as expected and is true but the poll shows the underlying wishes of the Greenlanders. The first pie chart has been reported in news sources widely but the second one which is more important is not widely reported. Since that poll there has been a lot of wooing of Greenlanders by both sides.

PapaDave
PapaDave
2 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

Well there it is.

“Greenlanders do not want to become part of the US.”

Yet you claimed they did.

And Phil called you out for being a liar.

He was right.

Doug78
Doug78
2 months ago
Reply to  PapaDave

I never claimed that. I claimed that we could give them a deal they would like. If they want to become American citizens then fine but it is not obligatory by any means. The negotiations going on are about which form it will take. I think you read into what I said what you want me to have said and not what I actually said.

Doug78
Doug78
2 months ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Who is Phil?

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