GDPNow Forecast for 2022 Q3 Barely Positive Despite New Home Sales Surprise

Please consider the September 20 update to the GDPNow Forecast for Q3 GDP.

The GDPNow model estimate for real GDP growth (seasonally adjusted annual rate) in the third quarter of 2022 is 0.3 percent on September 27, unchanged from September 20 after rounding. After releases from the National Association of Realtors and the US Census Bureau, the nowcast of third-quarter gross private domestic investment growth decreased from -7.4 percent to -7.6 percent.

The up-down, up-down pattern of the GDPNow forecasts finally collapsed into a down-down-down pattern on weak jobs followed by weak retail sales. The forecast then fell slightly despite a seemingly strong new residential construction report, then very strong new home sales.

Base Forecast vs Real Final Sales

The real final sales (RFS) number is the one to watch, not baseline GDP. RFS ignores changes in inventories which net to zero over time.

RFS was positive in the second quarter and April had a big retail sales splurge in spending.

Things fell apart in May and that’s when I believe recession started.

This is a good reason to ignore the talk of two quarters of declining GDP being a recession.

Spotlight on Current Real Final Sales (RFS) Estimate

  • RFS Total: 0.8 Percent (Lead Chart)
  • RFS Domestic: -0.2 Percent
  • RFS Private Domestic: -0.7 Percent

The real final sales RFS Total is the bottom line estimate for the economy. The rest is inventory adjustment that nets to zero over time.

Note that government spending and exports (military exports?) are propping up the numbers.

Real private sales to private domestic purchasers is negative 0.6 percent.

On September 20, I noted GDPNow Forecast for 2022 Q3 Barely Positive Following Housing Starts Report

The seemingly strong new residential construction report for August had a negative impact on the Atlanta Fed GDP forecast for the third quarter of 2022.

Today we see a little reaction in the GDPNow model despite New Home Sales Jump an Astonishing 28 Percent in August

What’s Going On?

  1. Existing home sales are far bigger and thus more important. 
  2. August sales will start construction with a delay.
  3. For whatever reason, the numbers may not hove been a huge surprise to the model.
  4. At the beginning of August, mortgage rates dipped from over 6 percent to 5 percent. Rates did not stay near 5 percent for long, but perhaps thousands of people bought the dip.

Some combination of the above is in play. 

Regarding point 3, it’s not the numbers that matter but rather what the data does vs what the model expects.

I was very surprised by the actual new home sales numbers but was not at all surprised by the GDPNow reaction being aware of points 1-3 for a long time.

Recession Off?

Following the new home sales report a friend asked if the recession was called off.

It hasn’t been, and the Atlanta Fed estimate is proof enough.

The quarter ends in three days but there is still over a month’s worth of data that hasn’t been published. The big remaining reports are retail sales and existing home sales. 

Revisions to these housing reports are also in play. Revisions have generally been very negative and the level of confidence in the initial numbers is not that high. 

For example, here is a statement from the commerce department on new home sales: New home sales were “28.8 percent (±18.3 percent) above the revised July rate of 532,000.”

±18.3 percent is one heck of a lot of leeway. 

I still expect a third consecutive quarter of negative GDP. 

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JRM
JRM
1 year ago
You know they have to fudge the numbers positive, until the NOV elections!!!
hammeringhank
hammeringhank
1 year ago
Reply to  JRM
Typical statement from the ignorant & the brainwashed.
Did Q tell you that?
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Well my XHB and EEM puts continue to be in the money. I am up 20% so far, a whole lot faster than I thought since I bought the January 2024 strikes so things are deteriorating a lot faster than I clearly expected and the Fed isn’t done hiking! Yikes! I may bank some profits because I am now expecting a short term rally and plan on buying more puts but we’ll see. The month of October is going to be interesting. Fed don’t fail me now.
Mish – as a follow up, I looked at EWJ and HEWJ and I will stick with EWJ. I couldn’t figure out how HEWJ “hedges” the Yen; Buffet’s rule is if you don’t understand it, don’t invest in it. I will wait for after the November Fed meeting to execute a trade but I’m thinking EWJ LEAP calls. I will go as far out as I can and probably buy slightly out of the money calls.
The once-in-a-decade money train is picking up steam….choo! choo! Next stop: more profits.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
you can call the economy anything you want, but price inflation has soared for most people’s daily lives, and the labor market is tight as a drum. we have the bubble of humanity, the boomers croaking off, and retiring. the labor market looks pretty tight for quite sometime. all us geezers will need dentists to maids…………as we step away from daily work life. this period is more like the pent up demand inflation of the post ww2, five years. substitute covid world wide shutdown for a world war. economically. now the inflation. it is anything but a recession. you are just flat wrong mish. your r/e calls are good. your analysis on FED and money is dead wrong. the NYFED is privately owned. by the bankers. the DC fed is the sham government agency to fool the naive.
Too much BS
Too much BS
1 year ago
The Boom Went Bust from Biden and the Democrats economically damaging polocies
link to youtu.be Bring back the economy, bring back Trump.
Esclaro
Esclaro
1 year ago
Reply to  Too much BS
Yeah, let’s bring back Trump. In leg irons!
JRM
JRM
1 year ago
Reply to  Esclaro
Yep keep dreaming!!!
Obama stored “CLASSIFIED AND NON CLASSIFIED” documents from his time in the White House at an abandoned building in Chicago for a while.. Payed the NA $3.3 million dollars to transfer the documents to a secure NA facility..
When former Presidents ran off with Classified documents, they are given a “PASS”!!!
When former Administrations leaked Classified information or stored Classified information incorrectly, they are given a “PASS”!!!
hammeringhank
hammeringhank
1 year ago
Reply to  JRM
Did Q tell you that monkey?
hammeringhank
hammeringhank
1 year ago
Reply to  Too much BS
you mean like your traitor Trumps failed trade war?
or maybe his pandemic failure & 2019/2020 recessions?
GDP still better than your lying Clown.
pay attention to FACTS
systemBuilder
systemBuilder
1 year ago
Reply to  Too much BS
Under trump we had the worst employment population ratio (age 25-54 – no BS unemployment BS numbers) in FORTY YEARS. Bring back Trump and you will create a rapid economic demise of the USA, it’s guaranteed! Nice try, Putin!
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
1 year ago
“I still expect a third consecutive quarter of negative GDP.”
Probably. But on Advance estimate or later revised?
I ask since, uh, Q3 GDP Advance estimate comes out October 27th … midterm election November 8th …

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