Home Prices Are Falling Everywhere, But Not as Fast as They Rose

Case-Shiller home prices via St. Louis Fed, calculation and chart by Mish

Home Price Synopsis

  • Home prices have peaked this cycle but the decline is certainly tiny compared to the run up.
  • There is a two-month lag in reporting. The latest report is for January and that represents sales primarily made in November and December.
  • The declines shown are undoubtedly understated by a lot.
  • Declines will accelerate but not fast enough to revive a housing market that has soured dramatically.

Home Prices Are Falling Everywhere, But Declines are Relatively Small

Case-Shiller home price indexes via St. Louis Fed, chart by Mish

CS National ,Top 10 Metro, CPI, OER Index Levels

Case-Shiller home price data via St. Louis Fed, CPI, OER, and Rent from the BLS, chart by Mish

Chart Notes

  • OER stands for Owner’s Equivalent Rent. It it the price one would pay to rent a home, unfurnished and without utilities.
  • Home prices wildly disconnected from the CPI in 2000 and in 2013. The disconnect accelerated in 2020.

The Fed ignored all three occasions hoping to make up for “lack of inflation”. The Fed “succeeded” in producing inflation beyond it’s wildest dreams. 

Sticky Prices

The year-over-year CPI has finally peaked this cycle as have home prices. But both are falling slowly. Inflation has been sticky.

Don’t dwell too much on the percentages because the data is stale.

But do look at the trends. Those trends will be in place for a while. 

Not Much Out There

Stalemate

  • Buyers want lower prices, but sellers want the prices they could have gotten 18 months ago. 
  • Existing home owners do not want to trade a 3.0 percent mortgage rate for a 6.57 percent mortgage, the current average rate.
  • New buyers cannot afford much of a home because prices have not fallen much but mortgage rates have soared.

Buyers and sellers are trapped but in a much different way than 2008. 

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MPO45v2
MPO45v2
2 years ago
There are some very interesting dynamics and demographics with regards to housing. On the one hand there is a shortage of 400,000 construction workers yet on the other hand, the median savings for boomers is about 400k which is nowhere near enough for a long retirement.
At some point, those boomers will need to downsize to smaller homes, condos or apartments and given the demographic crisis, there won’t be enough young people to buy up those homes much less want to rent them. In the near future, the US real estate market will be in for a huge correction. It doesn’t help that mortgage rates keep climbing, wages are stagnant, and we may be bleeding into a recession.
Throw in move to short range electric vehicles and the suburbs and x-suburbs may end up in huge trouble but we’ll wait and see, it shouldn’t take more than 3 to 4 years for it to start falling apart. And God help you if your buying a house in the west where water depletion will be a major crisis in a few years. I read that Salt Lake City is basically dry today and too late to fix.
davebarnes2
davebarnes2
2 years ago
Reply to  MPO45v2
“short range electric vehicles”
What?
Our VW ID.4 has a 250 mile range.
MPO45v2
MPO45v2
2 years ago
Reply to  davebarnes2
250 mile range in optimum conditions. What about the winter? What about infrastructure? Is the grid ready to charge all the cars? Is there enough electricity? Are there enough charge points distributed everywhere?
The narrative here is that nobody wants to live in cities or downtown anymore so those commutes get longer and longer but we’ll see.
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  MPO45v2
You’ll get 150 in worst conditions. If your commute is longer than that, in the blizzard that’s draining your battery, you have bigger problems.
Directed Energy
Directed Energy
2 years ago
NOT falling in Huntsville. This city is on fire 🔥, thousands moving in every month and jobs on every corner.
dtj
dtj
2 years ago
Be careful about cheering this on. Nashville has grown tremendously in the last 20 years and now their real estate prices are downright insane. That’s a good thing if you’re a real estate investor, not so much if you are a member of the formerly middle class.
Directed Energy
Directed Energy
2 years ago
Reply to  dtj
Why be careful? I own
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
2 years ago
Outright or do you have a bank as a partner?
8dots
8dots
2 years ago
US gov increased it’s visible/invisible defense budget, thanks to Ukraine, to counter the money supply shrinkage. The Fed might flip from trimming to increasing assets. The Fed might lend to strategically important industries, to build more 155mm, sophisticated missiles, big ticket items like ships and planes. The more complex the higher the cost. The faster they break, the more tech support and spare parts. That’s how Germany lost WWII. Keep it simple Uncle Joe. For over 100 years, since the Fed was born, it’s job #1 is US national interest. Germany is totally defenseless. They depend on us. Turkey can invade Germany if they wish, but they already did. Reparation to black slaves is another form of stimulus to counter deflation, for political gains…
Directed Energy
Directed Energy
2 years ago
Reply to  8dots
Huntsville is profiting handsomely from this. 🔥
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Tasty, tasty pork!
Jack
Jack
2 years ago

This is how the WSJ reports it:

“A Tale of Two Housing Markets: Prices Fall in the West While the East Booms.

In an unusual pattern, the 12 major housing markets west of Texas, plus Austin, saw home prices fall in January, while the opposite happened in the rest of the country.”

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 years ago
Reply to  Jack
People moving out of the Western states where things were not only very expensive but crazy political decisions were going to push things even higher.
Wolf Richter posted an article a couple days ago on this site showing California population had declined by half a million people and was down to 2016 levels and in some areas like San Fran it was even worse. Not coincidentally San Fran looks worst on Mish chart above because people leaving means less demand and hence lower prices.
MPO45v2
MPO45v2
2 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
I hear ya….another hospital in Idaho has stopped delivering babies because of crazy political decisions.
“Highly respected, talented physicians are leaving,” Bonner General’s announcement earlier this month said. “Recruiting replacements will be extraordinarily difficult. In addition, the Idaho Legislature continues to introduce and pass bills that criminalize physicians for medical care nationally recognized as the standard of care. Consequences for Idaho physicians providing the standard of care may include civil litigation and criminal prosecution, leading to jail time or fines.”
As for California, 500k out of 39 million is a rounding error. California has surpassed Germany in GDP. I don’t think the state is worried about a mass exodus.
Directed Energy
Directed Energy
2 years ago
Reply to  MPO45v2
Abortion is murder and California is a dumpster fire. I lived there for decades so I’m qualified to speak on it, and I’m one of the expats that couldn’t run fast enough.
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Most left for tax reasons when remote work started. I saved enough from that alone to cover rent. Political stuff wasn’t that noticeable… despite what the shrieking heads on Fox tell people.
Christoball
Christoball
2 years ago
Give it time, this is just the beginning. All leveraged assets will see substantial declines as lending dries up.
xbizo
xbizo
2 years ago
Reply to  Christoball
Not the ones secured with 30 year mortgages at 3% and not the businesses that borrowed for ten years at 4%. Long runway and a chance to pay them off and go debt free if they want. It’s not 2010 anymore.
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
2 years ago
Reply to  xbizo
The better part of those with those mortgages, have been deriving the better part of their income directly, or at most a degree of separation off directly, from nothing more than getting a cut of ‘asset price” pumping for decades by now. There’s precious little real, Fed-theft agnostic, wealth creation left anywhere in the US, with which to service even 3% mortgages at the comical valuations they were taken out at.
xbizo
xbizo
2 years ago
Reply to  StukiMoi
Not really. Maybe house buyers in the last 18 months, but 90% of all mortgages are under 5% and 50% under 4%
8dots
8dots
2 years ago
it might be a backbone
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
2 years ago
music to my ears. so glad i sold a year ago. looks much steeper pullback than 15 years ago.
8dots
8dots
2 years ago
Druggie used negative rates to force banks to pay rent for parking in the ECB vaults. The banks didn’t care. They didn’t lend.
The ECB had to increase it’s assets to stop the money supply bleeding. Viscosity forces keep rates slightly above water.
8dots
8dots
2 years ago
In 2008/09 commercial banks money supply (loans) deflated, but Fed’s assets inflated to counter the squeeze, to stop the econ bleeding.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
2 years ago

Paul Volcker was
quoted in the WSJ in 1983 that the Fed: “as a matter of principle favors
payment of interest on all reserve balances” … “on rounds of equity”. [sic]

That lowers the
real rate of interest. To raise the real rate of interest Congress must
activate monetary savings, i.e., drive the banks out of the savings business.

The DFIs are credit
creators. The NBFIs are credit transmitters. The NBFIs are the DFI’s customers.
Savings flowing through the shadow banks never leaves the payment’s system.

Real interest rates
are negative because of interest rate suppression, i.e., the payment of
interest on interbank demand deposits (on outside money). This increases the
supply of loan funds and decreases the demand for loan funds, hence lower
interest rates. It causes investors to rebalance, to stoke asset prices.

Paying Interest on
Reserve Balances: It’s More Significant than You Think – Scott Fullwiler Date
Written: December 1, 2004

worleyeoe
worleyeoe
2 years ago
I live in NW ATL, Woodstock to be exact, and prices around here are damn skippy stable, possibly even rising in some cases.
Mish, is there a way to find out how many mortgages are 30YFR vs ARMs? I know that I’ve seen reporting here and there and it seems like ARMs have made a major come back. A realtor friend of mine said late last year that EVERYONE getting a mortgage was doing this 5-3-1 deal that sounds a lot like what was going on in circa 2005.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
2 years ago
Reply to  worleyeoe
What happened was that Greenspan never tightened monetary policy and Bernanke never eased monetary policy. Interest is the price of credit, the price of money is the reciprocal of the price level (i.e., despite 14 raises in the FFR (June 30, 2004
until January 31, 2006), – every single rate hike was “behind the inflationary
curve”, behind RoC’s in long-term money flows).
worleyeoe
worleyeoe
2 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
I read your posts from time to time and barely understand a word you type.
Thanks though!
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
2 years ago
Reply to  worleyeoe
it is quite simply a big con. the ny fed is privately owned. all the academic studies explaining computerized currency and debts is mostly flim flammery. sound money is simple. this barely new born system since nixon defaulted on the dollar gold standard is real rubbish. it’s quite simple. my jackson and benjamin buys less and less and less over the decades. call it what you will. it’s coin clipping, printing press banana republic stuff. it won’t last much longer. all currencies go to zero. eventually. gold is money. amerika is a dying empire. the computer currency will be printed to the sky. we’ll all be billionaires within a decade. .
Jack
Jack
2 years ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
Unfortunately a loaf of bread will cost 1.01 billion, so will have to borrow money to pay for it.
Nobody will be able to purchase anything outright – will either be with debt or on a subscription.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
2 years ago
Reply to  Jack
payment plans for our morning coffee and bread delivered by the government schmucks who tell us it’s not inflation, just some new gizmo thing nobody can make sense of. i know 99% of us, not sniffing clue don’t have a clue how the whole 3 card monty computer currency conjuring long con happens. make that 100%. even the man in the high tower, powell and his owners don’t. and for certain don’t, nor does mish, nor any of his commenters. it’s a joke to believe one does. a joke on oneself. just kick yourself in the shins. less pain and trouble. dying empire 101, computer zeroes to the moon. who wants to be a trillionaire will be a child’s game…………
Eman58
Eman58
2 years ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
Gold is not money it’s just an accepted form of exchange. Nothing is money unless it’s agreed upon by 2 parties. Karl Denninger has done some remarkable write-ups regarding gold as money (or not). The Romans gave themselves a raise by melting down gold coins and making the smaller denomination worth just as much and adding other alloys. Any system can cheat so we’re really talking about integrity here. I don’t see that working out very well on planet earth anytime soon. Kings will be Kings as long as they have an army to force their taxation and rule.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
2 years ago
Reply to  worleyeoe
The professionals study money and central banking all their lives and still don’t understand it.
The FED’s Ph.Ds. don’t understand a bank from a nonbank. Since the DIDMCA turned the thrifts into banks their correspondent balances have been misclassified.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
2 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
because it is hooey. and they change the rules every year. it’s the softest science of them all. modern economics makes psychology and anthropology and gender studies and on and on look like hard science. nobody gets it. NOT ME. not YOU. not mish. if you think you understand it, YOU HAVE BEEN HAD. the game is simple. FED RES NY is privately owned. the middlebrows try and figure out the changing con game of electronic printing and borrowing and conjuring……………..which is insane. just do the simple test. YOUR benjamin ain’t worth jack compared to a decade and 3 decades ago. the rest if pure BS. i still love reading the folks who think they are smart posting all the ways they KNOW how the wizard behind the curtain is phucking them………….decade after decade after decade. i’ll tip my hat to the NYFED as i pass it on monday morning stroll………..through downtown new amsterdam.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
2 years ago
This housing decline is completely different from the GFC. Bankrupt-u-Bernanke (who won the Nobel for “Prize motivation: “for research on banks and financial crises”), drained legal reserves for 29 contiguous months turning safe assets into impaired assets. In the process Bernanke bankrupt half the home builders.
The truistic monetary base was required reserves (exclusive of vault cash and currency). The money multiplier was 206:1.

See – Sent: Thu 11/16/06 9:55
AM “Spencer, this in an interesting idea. Since no one in the Fed tracks reserves
(because the ABA and stupid economists want to eliminate them)…” and “Today,
with bank reserves largely driven by bank payments (debits), your views on bank
debits and legal reserves sound right!” – Dr. Richard G. Anderson

And we knew this already:

In 1931 a commission was
established on Member Bank Reserve Requirements. The commission completed their
recommendations after a 7 year inquiry on Feb. 5, 1938. The study was entitled
“Member Bank Reserve Requirements — Analysis of Committee Proposal”
its 2nd proposal: “Requirements against debits to deposits”

After a 45 year hiatus, this
research paper was “declassified” on March 23, 1983. By the time this paper was
“declassified”, Nobel Laureate Dr. Milton Friedman had declared RRs to be a
“tax” [sic].

Monetarism has never been
tried.

Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
2 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
The 1959 inclusion of vault cash confuses liquidity reserves with legal reserves. The only type of bank asset the FED can constantly monitor and absolutely control are deposits in the Reserve banks.
The American Bankers Association has been commandeering Congress for decades. Monetary
policy should delimit all required reserves to balances in their District
Reserve bank (IBDDs, like the ECB), and have uniform reserve ratios, for all
deposits, in all banks, irrespective of size (something Nobel Laureate Dr.
Milton Friedman advocated, December 16, 1959).
Monetarism involves targeting
total legal reserves and their reserve ratios. That was the true policy
instrument.

Monetarism does not mean
targeting nonborrowed reserves, which as Volcker found out, was not
restrictive. Volcker stopped inflation by imposing reserve requirements on NOW
accounts in April 1981.

Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
2 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta

By mid-1995 (a deliberate and misguided policy
change by Alan Greenspan in order to jump start the economy after the July 1990
–Mar 1991 recession), legal, fractional, reserves (not prudential), ceased to
be binding – as increasing levels of vault cash/larger ATM networks, retail
deposit sweep programs (c. 1994), fewer applicable deposit classifications
(including allocating “low-reserve tranche” & “reservable
liabilities exemption amounts” c. 1982) & lower reserve ratios (requirements
dropping by 40 percent c. 1990-91), & reserve simplification procedures (c.
2012), & reversion back to lagged reserve requirements on July 30, 1998, combined to remove reserve, & reserve
ratio, restrictions.

This
was the direct cause of the GFC, the boom/bust in real-estate (as predicted in May 1980). I.e., reserves would decline and the means of payment money would approach M3.

davebarnes2
davebarnes2
2 years ago
Redo your charts with inflation adjusted data. Much steeper declines.
Jack
Jack
2 years ago
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My browser gave me a security warning and would not open the website when I clicked on the link.
davebarnes2
davebarnes2
2 years ago
Reply to  Jack
I know. There is a mismatch with my ISP’s certificate. I have not fixed it as I did not create the website for visitors.

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