I am pleased to report the “death of a whole civilization” has been postponed.
All Military Objectives Already Achieved
Truth Social: Based on conversations with Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and Field Marshal Asim Munir, of Pakistan, and wherein they requested that I hold off the destructive force being sent tonight to Iran, and subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks. This will be a double sided CEASEFIRE! The reason for doing so is that we have already met and exceeded all Military objectives, and are very far along with a definitive Agreement concerning Longterm PEACE with Iran, and PEACE in the Middle East. We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate. Almost all of the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the United States and Iran, but a two week period will allow the Agreement to be finalized and consummated. On behalf of the United States of America, as President, and also representing the Countries of the Middle East, it is an Honor to have this Longterm problem close to resolution. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP
Looking Stupid
Shocking Not
Who Wrote What?
Conditions
Trump’s Original Conditions
What’s Really in the Deal?
The current two-week pause is framed as a temporary de-escalation to enable diplomacy, not a full resolution. Both sides have a history of mistrust, with Iran stressing it will only accept terms meeting its conditions.
Short answer. Iran’s civilization will not die tonight. Thankfully. Otherwise, it’s another pack of Trump lies.
Trump says: “We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate. Almost all of the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the United States and Iran, but a two week period will allow the Agreement to be finalized and consummated. “
The notion that almost all of the points of past contention have been agreed to is a direct lie unless Trump agreed to …
- Guarantee against future attacks.
- Lift sanctions.
- Regional de-escalation.
- Agree to economic reparations or sovereignty elements (e.g., related to the Strait of Hormuz).
If Trump indeed agreed to that, it’s not as good a deal as Obama negotiated.
Still More on the Deal
Iran’s Foreign Minister Araghchi says safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz “will be possible via coordination with Iran’s Armed Forces and with due consideration of technical limitations.”
But hey, Trump’s lies are preferable to Trump’s warnings “Whole Civilization Will Die Tonight … God Bless Iran!”
If you thought Trump’s war crime threats would not get worse, you were wrong.
because we’re idiots here, you see….
JD VANCE SAYS IRAN & U.S AGREED TO A DIFFERENT 10 POINT PLAN
“The first 10 point proposal we think, frankly, was probably written by CHATGPT that was submitted to Steve Whitkoff and Jared Kushner. That immediately went the GARBAGE and was rejected!”
“I’ve seen a lot of reporting from the American media about the 10 point proposal. That the Iranians have made!”
“There are 3 different 10 point proposals, at least that I’ve seen floating around.”
“There was a second 10 point proposal that was much more reasonable that was based on some back and forth between us between the Pakistanis and that is the 10 point proposal that the President referenced in his TRUTH yesterday.”
“And then frankly, I’ve seen a third 10 point proposal that’s even more maximalist than the first 10 point proposal that’s been floating around various social media channels.”
Reportedly only two ships have been permitted to transit the strait since the ceasefire was announced
all this winning! lmao
Iran HALTS ships in Strait of Hormuz and issues new demand as Trump’s crumbling ceasefire faces furious Republican backlash
In a classic Trump mafia move, he now wants to do a JV sharing the running of the Hormuz Toll Booth!
https://thehill.com/policy/international/5821343-trump-us-iran-ceasefire-deal-joint-venture-strait-of-hormuz/
Trump can best be described in history books as a desperate loser that achieved the American Dream by showing that even he could make it to the US Presidency.
I get much joy watching the never-ending, continuous conniption of Trump haters. You guys are hilarious….
I enjoy watching Trump cult members come here and do one of three things:
1. Beg Mish to stop talking about Trump and focus on “economics” only to be ignored.
2. Defend anything and everything Trump does only to watch it blow up in their faces literarlly minutes, hours, or days after doing so.
3. Pretend their feelings aren’t hurt when Trump is called out for his stupidity day in and day out then come here and write comments like, “watching you guys is fun…” then close the door and scream and cry because of the ridicule.
Oh and bonus, create a new bogus handle to hide their true identity but often we all know who you are if you post here regularly because you can’t escape yourself or your patterns.
I’d add “never make a comment that intelligently defends Trump’s actions nor refutes another poster’s.”
Well, it looks as if we are all having fun, then, doesn’t it? All you silly people should keep in mind that this is real, that there has been a real war in Persia and that there is still a real war in the Ukraine, and that real people are getting killed, tortured, lied to, intimidated.
Trump is trying to reduce that a little bit. Socialists, religious people and various other kinds of idiots are trying to increase it, knowingly or unknowingly. Stupidity matters.
Yes. Trump is “trying to reduce” the killing. After killing thousands of innocent women and children in Iran, he follows that up with this quote:
“A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again”
And you support this genocidal maniac. I hope you enjoy spending eternity in hell with him.
ng, continuous conniption of Trump haters.
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conniption? what kind of human would use this word? never even heard one. was forced to load up dict.
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as far as rest of.
i am not american
don’t give a f1uck dems /repubs
BUT OBV. TRUMP IS CRAZY PERSON.
mentally he should be under intensive care.
each day bunch of idiocy that contradict trump;s own words said 2=3 days ago.
he is like a monkey that throwing shit into wall.
how is that for conniption!!
ps
what country do you live?
You’re the kind of guy who would flood your own yard with sewage to annoy the neighbors.
Is Epic Fury over ?
May be declaring the end of Epic Fury (a great victory), is a good way to restart a new military operation under a different name with different objectives and escape congress control for another 60 days.
Let’s negotiate a truce every 45 days.
* KUWAIT: 3 POWER, WATER DESALINATION FACILITIES HIT BY IRAN
* KUWAIT: 4 MISSLES, 42 DRONES TARGET COUNTRY IN PAST 24 HOURS
yeah.
those so called countries around ME w/ 2*5 mil people and 10000+ sq km size
are fuc11ked!
Just so everyone is clear what Trump says is a workable solution, from Gemini as of now
Following recent escalations and a five-week conflict, Tehran released a 10-point plan through Pakistani mediators today aimed at securing a ceasefire with the U.S. and its allies.
The 10 Key Points include:
1. Mutual Non-Aggression: A guarantee of non-aggression from both sides and U.S. acceptance of Iran’s uranium enrichment program.
2. Strait of Hormuz Control: Continued Iranian dominance and “controlled passage” through the Strait, coordinated with Iran’s Armed Forces.
3. Regional De-escalation: An end to the war on all fronts, including hostilities involving groups like Hezbollah.
4. U.S. Withdrawal: The removal of U.S. combat forces from all bases and deployment points in the region.
5. UN Resolution Termination: The termination of all previous UN Security Council and Board of Governors resolutions against Iran.
6. Secure Transit Protocols: Establishment of new transit rules for the Strait of Hormuz under Iranian terms.
7. War Reparations: Full payment of damages to Iran based on current estimates.
8. Sanctions Relief: Immediate removal of all primary and secondary sanctions.
9. Asset Release: The release of all blocked Iranian properties and financial assets abroad.
10. Legal Binding: A requirement that all terms be ratified via a binding UN Security Council resolution.
Anyone who thinks Trump got a deal needs to have their head checked!
If any one wanted to know what Gemini connects, one would ask Gemini. Tell us what you think. Otherwise, get away.
Sorry you don’t like facts and data. Trump capitulated, deal with it
There is no actual ceasefire. There is chaos, arguably worse now than before the “ceasefire”. The markets are totally manipulated. You can’t have better market outcomes, when things have demonstrably taken a turn for the worse. I have no idea how oil prices could fall 15% under these circumstances.
I’m watching CNBC and they are all pretending everything is fine and amazing. Lol. I guess it’s a setup for suckers to get in and buy high. I sold off some stuff with this rally because nothing has really changed.
Trump can stop bombing, and has stopped bombing, hasn’t he? That is some kind of ceasefire. The Persians can dig themselves out from under the rubble, make alternative arrangements to travel where bridges have been destroyed, reconnect power lines, start power plants, hospitals, and what have you working again. They will probably give priority to getting the police stations functional so they can go on torturing and murdering their own people, but they will probably have to limit their participation in violence and mayhem elsewhere for a while. Now if the Israelis could be persuaded to do the same…….
China’s the biggest winner from the Iran War.
The US is the biggest loser.
One of the biggest self-owns in history.
I thought Putin’s 2022 invasion of Ukraine was one of history’s biggest mistakes, but Trump came to Putin’s rescue.
And Trump still has 3 more years to beat his own record!
=f Ukraine was one of history’s biggest mistakes
why?
Russia just got back what it owned for 400 years!
not fully, but night is still young!
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do you even know history of Russian empire / USSR?
DO YOU EVEN KNOW RUSSIAN/UKR langs? or have you ever traveled into former USSR, or lived there ?
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or you are just plain western mor1on who just watches cnn=bbc and thinks
i am an expert?
alx
A miscreant got kicked out of Kyiv & went to a swamp & founded what would become Moscow.
Kyiv-Russ existed long before Moscow.
The Russians stole the name Russia from Ukraine.
There’s been hundreds of years of anti-Ukraine propaganda coming out of Russia, stupid people believe it, but Ukraine continues to exist.
Russia is a moron country & will always be a reprehensible, unsuccessful den of criminals. .
Message being broadcast on the marine channel in the Gulf right now:
“Attention all vessels in Persian Gulf and Oman Sea. This is the IRGC Navy Station. Transiting the Strait of Hormuz remains closed and you need permission from the IRGC before sailing through the strait. Any vessel trying to travel into the sea will be targeted and destroyed.”
…and don’t forget to visit our Gift Shop and check out the new “Allah Snack Bar”
In an admission that the nuclear pretext for the war was a lie,
Trump just posted that the US will be working with Iran to dig up and recovered the “Nuclear Dust” that was buried in last year’s bombing…
Maybe they’ll find the Epstein files down there.
Latest Update:
Iran has told regional mediators its participation in talks with U.S. officials in Islamabad is conditional on a cease-fire in Lebanon, warning it might also reverse its decision on reopening the Strait of Hormuz, people familiar with the matter said.
Iranian mediators have also warned they would continue to carry out attacks on regional countries, including Israel, if attacks on Lebanon and Iran by Israel continue, they said.
…Massacre upon massacre in Beirut in the last hour. AUBMC announced a “code disaster.” Over 100 airstrikes in 10 minutes across the country. One hit right behind my house. Sirens ambulances & the smell of sulphur. The city is in total chaos the people in complete panic…
“it’s a beautiful thing…”
Nothing will stop Israel’s quest for Lebensraum so long as their vassals in the US continue to provide them with money, weapons and diplomatic cover.
Well that was quick, bonds are almost back to where they were before the “cease fire”… You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can’t fool the bond market.
https://www.cnbc.com/bonds/
the bombs are still flying. But they got the Dow Green.
Buy bombs…sell bonds
Iran blocking the strait again because Israel attacked Lebanon.
Yes and strangely oil still down even though it’s not flowing. There’s going to be a massive short squeeze at some point. I bought back all my calls I sold during the last surge dirt cheap. I will sell them again when oil explodes again.
Rinse & repeat after every profitgasm.
Let Israel unblock it.
Israel’s only good for dropping bombs on innocent women and children.
Fun sized terrorists and fun sized terrorist factories are a clear threat.
the only fools are the ones that believe what he says then call him names when he doesn’t deliver.even the everyday idiot repoerts correctly that he is playing the media and critics like a fiddle.
the end justifies the means. he leaves an endless trail of butthurt crybabies in his wake that simply do not catch on to his methods and he gets what he wants. Criticsm an name calling A very small price to pay to get his way.
His admonishers get played like a fiddle. Remarkable.
What end?
What was gained by the US?
Iran gets to keep making nukes, and billions in tolls on the strait… assuming anybody can get insurance to go in there, given that, as you say, the Trumpstien is a liar.
The first thing they would rebuild is their missile and drone production capacity.
This cease fire will be over after the market closes on Friday.
crickets…
look another Trump clown.
“the end justifies the means”
The situation now is far WORSE than before his “deal”
That’s called “getting fucked” not “getting a deal.”
The only fools are the ones that try to warp reality to make it seem like a loss is a win
How much did we spend to get this “win”?
A quarter trillion and 3000 lives.
Fly in ointment:
IRAN’S TASNIM NEWS AGENCY CITING UNNAMED SOURCE: IRAN WILL WITHDRAW FROM CEASEFIRE AGREEMENT IF ATTACK ON LEBANON CONTINUES
They already closed Hormuz and told ships not to try to pass through.
According to ship tracker MarineTraffic, there are 426 tankers, 34 LPG carriers, and 19 LNG vessels in the Persian Gulf among hundreds of other containerships and general cargo vessels. No ships have left the Gulf yet.
from Lebanon….
…Massacre upon massacre in Beirut in the last hour. AUBMC announced a “code disaster.” Over 100 airstrikes in 10 minutes across the country. One hit right behind my house. Sirens ambulances & the smell of sulphur. The city is in total chaos the people in complete panic…
Israel wants to destroy the world.
TACO at it again with tariffs. oh and Iran closed the Straits again (breaking news). Lol!
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/08/trump-threatens-tariffs-countries-supplying-weapons-iran-ceasefire.html
The U.S. will impose tariffs of 50% on “any and all” goods imported to the country from any nation “supplying military weapons to Iran”, President Donald Trump said on Wednesday.
25th amendment for a mentally ill fool.
I wished we’re horses. The people who currently sit in the US Congress are not fit for anything.
They are totally complicit in destroying one the three legs on which US stood.
It is not Congress. It is the Republican Party which controls Congress.
Israel is bragging about hitting central Beirut with 100 strikes in 10 minutes this morning. They struck densely populated urban areas. The grin on Netanyahu’s face as he talks about it is eerie. The Israelis have truly become the new Nazi nation.
Disgusting development.
The abused have become the abusers. Tale as old as time.
racist
Cry more.
The whole Chosen People thing never works out well for anyone.
Iran-Linked Hackers Are Sabotaging US Energy and Water InfrastructureAs Trump threatens Iranian infrastructure, the US government warns that Iran has carried out its own digital attacks against US critical infrastructure.
https://www.wired.com/story/iran-linked-hackers-are-sabotaging-us-energy-and-water-infrastructure/
WAR OR NO WAR! IT DOES NOT MATTER
USA is bankrupt. as today USA gov deficit is 2.8 trln$
debt is 39 trln,
if war is on , deficit will be at least 0.5 trln more by end of year
Best case scenario for today: Trump declares “mission accomplished” and says the war is over – we leave the Middle East and Iran and Israel can go back to bombing each other. Hopefully Bibi is person non-grata around the White House because Trump will know he’s he was conned into this – and US is done propping up the insane religious cultists in Tel Aviv.
Are you not aware that Israel runs the US?
If you think the war is over, think again. Iran has not agreed to a ceasefire. They have agreed to stop retaliating as long as Israel and the US stop their attacks. So that ball is in the West’s corner. Despite the White House claim that the Strait of Hormuz is now open for business, it is not. Iran will continue to allow ships on a case-by-case basis to enter and leave the Persian Gulf after paying a cover charge. Iran will split this money with Oman. If Iran charges a million dollars — payable in Chinese Yuan — they will earn an estimated $96 billion a year.
You mean Trump was jawboning the markets? oh no! He tricked us again! /s
Didn’t phase me, I know where the profits are going to be…..
Retired Air Force Brigadier General Cantwell: “The fact that there have not been more fighter jets lost in Iran is a testament to the capabilities of US forces. That this hasn’t happened until now is an absolute miracle.”
https://am.jpmorgan.com/us/en/asset-management/institutional/insights/market-insights/eye-on-the-market/salems-lot/
‘Tis but a flesh wound!
“The fact that there have not been more fighter jets lost in Iran is a testament to the capabilities of US forces. That this hasn’t happened until now is an absolute miracle.”
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size of IRAN is double ended gift!
it is gift for iran, as it is so large
and obv, it is gift for attacking side, cause it is not possible for Iran protect even 20% of country, meaning have it covered.
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same sh11it in russia/ ukraine,for both countries
ukraineis france size country
and even Europe part of russia is bigger than whole europe!
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Israel on other hand is in problem due to being so small!
Not much point in bombing desert. They don’t need to cover it all.
iran have #2-3 reserves of oil-gas in world!
desert or not. you need to protect
this is more like Dune than the Art of the Deal.
Iran just attacked the Saudi east-west pipeline to the Red Sea; damage is being assessed. Looks like Iran wants to divert all Persian Gulf oil through their toll booth.
How’s the ceasefire going so far?
Like I said yesterday, I’m having amazing profitgasms this morning!
Israel still bombing Lebanon too.
Israel was supposed to be a party to the ceasefire and stop all activities in Lebanon. They’re in full defiance of Trump and Trump is too weak of a man to stop them.
Trump is no man but a enunch.
My SWAG is that this was another Israeli false flag intended to torpedo negotiations.
Time to book a cheap flight and cheap room in Dubai….2nd week free!!
Bring lots of water.
Things to consider
If real peace is agreed to, “normal” will return in 6 to 9 months, maybe years for things like helium
Notice the war paused when AI targets were mentioned (who really controls Trumps heart? brotech or Israel)
Ships will leave the Gulf but not enter until a solid peace agreement
Israel is a ticking time-bomb in the whole deal
There is no reservoir of trust to build an agreement–two weeks is a ludicrously short time-line to build anything durable
Time is the greatest friend to Iran (“damnit, just give them what they want” with the sound of Israel screaming threats in the background)
YOU can’t trust an Islalmist dealing with an Infidel as the Quran allows deception to be used.
But you can always trust Trump to NEVER use deception!
I don’t doubt that Islam allows deception, but Iran has been extremely forthright while the U.S. has lied continuously for decades. Those are facts.
YOU are out of touch with reality
Mossad’s ethos and guiding credo, “By way of deception, thou shalt do war,”
men stop watching Fox News, Iran is the winner there will be a toll on the straits of Hormuz but not till uncle signs a treaty, and Lloyd’s sees and verify otherwise forget about what your fox channel says about peace….
Hey, just like the Talmud!
Kamala could have done better— hahahahahhah–Democrats are delutional TDS
Kamala wouldn’t have been stupid enough to do this in the first place.
…and here we have a product of the public school system. He’s hooked on phonics, and can’t stop.
The Geico lizard could have done better. My youngest kittens could have done better. A colony of ants could have done better.
What we have here is Kamala Delusion Syndrome.
Almost certainly Obama Delusion Syndrome was a preexisting condition.
Israel in the last hour did what they call their largest strikes yet in Lebanon, and are openly stating they will continue to attack. The ceasefire deal struck explicitly included Lebanon, so the ceasefire is clearly over.
After spending $200 billion of US taxpayers dollars, Trump unconditionally surrenders to Iran. After murdering the existing leadership, a more radical one takes over. Iran can continue purifying uranium, they get to charge for ships to pass through the Strait of Hormuz (permanently increasing the cost of petroleum), the US has to pull its bases out of the ME and end all sanctions! This is what happens when we let our MAGA neighbors, brain-damaged by Fox News, have the right to vote. This marks the end of American world hegemony and even basic respect for the USA. The world and the US would have been better off if Trump had just kept Obama’s treaty in force. And our idiot MAGA neighbors will keep voting Republican. No wonder Trump “loves the uneducated”.
Mishelin star granted for exceptionally well thought out comments.
Democrats can win everything unless they pick gender transitioning for minors as the hill to die on.
Oh they’re well past that, believe you me
The other party puts illegal immigrants ahead of US citizens and legal immigrants, paying for all illegals food, medical, housing, cash cards, phones, etc. with tax dollars.
It’s like being a manager, and blowing the entire department budget on an idea from the unproven new guy who just joined the company yesterday vs the guy who has reliably been doing their job and demonstrating their worth for the last 15+ years with a deep underatanding of corporate culture and what the job actually entails. It makes no sense on multiple levels, and it is patently unfair.
LOL. “The other party puts illegal immigrants ahead of US citizens and legal immigrants, paying for all illegals food, medical, housing, cash cards, phones, etc. with tax dollars.” Absolutely none of that is true!
It is in California and New York city. Legal immigrants have to prove means and are given nothing. Illegal immigrants are given means and have to prove nothing.
You said “the other party”. You’re over generalizing, acting like something in 2 locations is the norm. It isn’t.
The state of California and New York city combined have enough Congressional House member seats to set/drive the agenda for the entire party. That’s why the Democrat party is so whackadoodle now. This is definitely not the Democrat party of the pre-1990s, who were solidly for the American worker.
Here is a 1978 commercial from the Democrat party that many of us remember fondly:
“Look for the union label”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt-JPCXHQFg
And here is a recent commercial from the illegal immigrant party:
“Make sure you apply for WIC benefits, in spanish language”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qXnnZpxplO8&pp=ygUgRm9vZCBzdGFtcCBjb21tZXJjaWFsIGluIHNwYW5pc2jSBwkJxAGjtWo3m0M%3D
1978 emphasized hard work by US citizens. Now, ithe Democrat focus emphasizes drawing/providing as much welfare as possible, specifically for illegal immigrants. My, how times have changed.
Like Joe Rogan and Elon Musk, I was a “vote the party” Democrat until about a decade ago. The Democrat party has experienced an insurrection/overthrow by lunatics.
why vote for any of them?
It should be obvious now that Trump is just another, more corrupt, puppet of the “tiny hat” monetary masters and MIC. Hedge accordingly, because the rest of the world certainly is. More and more deals being made to facilitate trade in anything but the Federal Reserve Note. The old crowd will understand when I say; “Jump you fuckers!”
Have Trump initial objectives been achieved?? What’s the point? Is Iran a better place now for its citizens?
Ok distraction over back to the Epstein files. that is what it was all about. more time for the shredder to work must have gotten the correct files shredded
Meanwhile in farmland, plants are starting to explode out of the ground and the entire world is alive with growth. War or not, life goes on.
Regardless of this short term solution I’m damn glad to be no where near the Middle East!
Now, about the cost of fertilizer and diesel?
These prices hurt and have reduced planting for the corn/soy crops in the US, Argentina, Brazil etc. Can’t imaging how bad it would be to be a farmer in India where fertilizer is simply not available when application is necessary for rice.
Consequences Cake is in the oven.
Tell your farmer buddies this line, “You reap what you sow.”
A nuclear armed Iran would have charges $4 million per boat —and dropped a bomb on your house someday to bring their paradise to the world
I think this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody’s part.
Coming right up…
We live in interesting times.
Two weeks to negotiate. Iran’s 10 point list is impossible for Israel or the Gulf states to agree to. The US list is impossible for Iran to agree to.
This will be the third round of “negotiations”. The US and Israel attacked Iran during each of the first two rounds of “negotiations”. Will this be a threepeat? Another carrier group is on its way to the gulf, as are more marines.
I highly doubt that the conflict will be resolved in the next two weeks.
Meanwhile, the uncertainty will remain an anchor on the world economy. Will shipowners risk exiting, or entering the Gulf through the strait? Will insurance companies provide insurance? Will Iran allow very many ships in or out? Will they charge a fee? Iran is still telling shipowners to get permission or be destroyed.
It will be fascinating to watch how many ships transit the strait per day over the next two weeks. The normal rate is 90-100 ships per day. Recently it was 3-5 ships per day; mostly Iranian.
Even if the number of ships went back to 100 per day, starting tomorrow, it will take 3-6 months to get oil, and other critical items back up to normal flows. And even with true peace (unlikely), we may never get back to 100 ships, as people look for alternatives to supplies from the gulf.
If there is peace, Oil production will take 6-12 months to return to pre war levels. Natural gas flows will take 3-5 years to return to normal levels. The impact on the world economy is not over.
I would definitely fade this market rally. Looking forward to a short but sharp correction in oil stocks to buy back much of what I have been selling over the last 5 weeks.
It sure doesn’t look like anything has changed, except that the orange man chickened out. I don’t see how or why the Iranians are going to back down on any demands, whereas Trump has to due to energy markets. I agree this isn’t over and it wont be two weeks before the Trump crazy talk starts up again
Yes.
I expect shipowners to eventually get their ships out of the gulf. 800 stranded ships, including 250 oil tankers, will leave once they feel safe to do so. That could take a month or more.
However, I do not expect them to send ships back into the gulf, until they truly believe the risk is over.
PapaDave, you have a talent for expressing the state of things accurately and concisely. Agree, that it is impossible for the parties to reach agreement in two weeks, especially with Israel actively seeking to sabotage the negotiations.
What oil stocks are you looking at buying, if you don’t mind saying?
Canadian oil stocks mostly. Longest and largest reserves, lowest cost of production, in a safe location. Many will now be takeover targets as well, though that is not important to me.
Canadian Natural, Suncor, Imperial, Cenovus, Whitecap, Tamarack, and Cardinal are some of my favorites.
Thanks, very much appreciate your thoughts
Oops, there goes the war crimes thesis for all the Trump haters. Time to start the thought crime tribunal.
Give me a break. I’m still compiling the list of constitutional violations.
Then there is still the matter of serial pedophilia.
The President to date, has been accused of overreach, Violations, impoundment of funds, and a disregard for Federal law. There may be a few more less tantalizing accusations as well.
Ironically, the President has been charged for Zero Offenses, because they are bogus, trumped up, and falsely accused pipe dreams of the Democrats. After taking him to court, over and over again for what? Hundreds of times already, and nothing sticks.
The simple truth, is that you have to actually break a law, and not just be accused of doing so. Let me know when one sticks will you…
There’s a whole lot of stuff that you can accuse him of. the problem is you need a functional DOJ in order to prosecute.
Its not a question of breaking laws. He has that covered. But the DOJ won’t prosecute.
Not a single name mentioned in the Epstein files is even being investigated.
So the investigations of Prince Andrew, Les Wexner & Donald Trump don’t count? Why? The outcome not what you desired?
Al Capone has only been tried and convicted for tax evasion. Therefore, he has committed no other crimes. – Stu
The GOP doesn’t care about underage girls being raped, this war and the Epstein files chicanery by the right proves it.
The GOP cares, it’s certain individuals that don’t.
The DEM cares too, it’s certain individuals that don’t.
Trump is a war criminal, this is an illegal war.
he is also a weak fool. talked a bunch of shit and then backed down
after 4 years of the democrats with Biden, I now get to deal with the clowns who worship Trump.
– Trump is a war criminal. > Please explain why legally please, as he is clearly not.
– this is an illegal war. > Please explain why legally please, as the war is clearly not.
– he is also a weak fool. talked a bunch of shit and then backed down > Is that WHY we have a Peace Deal on the table, and the Strait is opening back up. Being weak certainly has its privileges I suppose, or at least with Iran…
– after 4 years of the democrats with Biden, I now get to deal with the clowns who worship Trump. > Not worship, but ecstatic that mush for brains and his auto pen are in the dustbin of history finally. We had an actual imbecile for President, and you think Trump is worse. Trump did more in the first month, than Biden can remember doing his whole life!!!
He attacked a country that posed us no risk and did nothing to us. He killed thousands of mostly civilians. WTF?
You can’t possibly be referring to Iran? They are not even close to fitting that description.
Now if he attacks Cuba, that’s a bullseye!
Article 2(4l of the UN Charter
Says what exactly in regards to this issue? Nothing that matches up with any wrong doing that I see in print? A real simple question, and you will understand completely.
Were Americans Attacked? I will help you out here: YES! America, Trumps Administration and Trump himself did absolutely nothing wrong in regards to Article 2(4l of the UN Charter. It clearly states they are in their right to do so.
Do you really think, if they were guilty, that they would not be called out on it by everybody living and breathing that hates Trump? Get real, nothing was done wrong. They had the right to do so per the UNCharter you referenced.
They are only war crimes if you lose. The US won 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
The Art of the TACO:
Trump: do as I say, or I will bomb you back to the stone ages
Iran: best I can do is this 10 point plan where you give us everything we want
Trump: deal!
Fox News: Trump is a master negotiator
This is true, which is why the ‘deal’ will fall apart quickly. There is no deal, only a promise to talk about Iran’s 10-point plan.
At this point the main thing Trump cares about is keeping the strait open. Israel, however, wants the wars to continue (including the seizing of territory in Lebanon), and in an environment with very little trust it will not be difficult for them to blow up the ceasefire.
Don’t forget he has secured two weeks of publicity to fellate his ego
The American people want the war to end. Israel, the neocons and probably the intelligence community want it to continue. Gee, I wonder which side will win out.
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Trump had to run away yelping with his tail between his legs. Iran keeps all their uranium, and will get sizeable new transit toll revenue to boot. LOL!
Trump Taco GRANDE > Taco SUPREME Leader
Does this mean stocks, gold and silver can head back to new all time highs?
Pump and dump on stocks, buying oil futures now to sell into rising prices in two weeks….or less.
A profitable game trump and friends are playing and it continues the Epstein coverup, it’s a wonderful world for the criminal rich.
“A big day for World Peace! Iran wants it to happen, they’ve had enough! Likewise, so has everyone else! The United States of America will be helping with the traffic buildup in the Strait of Hormuz. There will be lots of positive action! Big money will be made. Iran can start the reconstruction process. We’ll be loading up with supplies of all kinds, and just “hangin’ around” in order to make sure that everything goes well. I feel confident that it will. Just like we are experiencing in the U.S., this could be the Golden Age of the Middle East!!! President DONALD J. TRUMP”
I’m going to predict the following.
The Excursion is over.
Drumpf desperately wants this to end, so it will end.
Israel will be brought to heal. There may be cease fire breaks, there often are at the end of wars (excuse me, Excursions), but in general it will hold.
Hard to predict what will happen in secondary places like Lebanon. Lebanon is the 21st century Belgium – wrong place, wrong time. Awful to be a people who get stuck like that but drumpf doesn’t care about them.
From drumpfs perspective – Everything is ok with Iran, they will rebuild, and he will pretend that it was always the plan. He’ll do a victory lap and claim that destroying their useless Air Force and Navy was a great thing. He’ll have done some real damage to their Air Defenses and ballistic missiles, but only a fool would think that was worth it. Especially if Iranian leadership is given free reign (not free rain) to rebuild their defenses, esp their drones, BMs, and Air Defenses. No progress on nukes and he replaced old hard line regime withe new hard line regime. At the direct cost of $50B to $200B depending on what $ value you use.
Drunk Pete will be sidelined and his Crusader holy war nonsense will be sidelined. Expect to hear less from him in the coming days and weeks. Maybe we’ll be lucky and he will get deservedly shit canned like ice barbie and blonde barbie. I can only hope that the military will be able to recover from this idiocracy and eventually get run again by sane leadership.
There won’t be another ME issue for at least a year. God help us but maybe we’ll have something of a relevant cease fire for a while, and maybe all players will decide to pull back from the brink.
The Iranian leadership will survive in its current form for the near, if not long term future. The average Iranian citizen will continue to suffer from a terrible regime for the indefinite future. There will be unrest and frequent uprisings and discontent, but the opposition will continue to be ineffectual. I’m sorry for the average Iranian citizen, but I don’t see the calvary coming over the hill anytime soon (sorry, drunk Pete, your Holy Crusade is not in the works). The leadership will get many concessions in the emerging peace, possibly long-term ability to charge tolls on passage through the ‘fuckin strait’, no change in nuke status, no change in leadership, possible sanction lifting, and possible other concessions. This will all play out between the next 2 weeks to 3 months.
Was it worth it? You be the judge, but my vote is no.
Wow thats some positive thinking! I hope you’re right but find it improbable
I would have to agree with most of your predictions. They are reasonable expectations to occur.
Was it worth it? I say 100% as Iran was extremely close to Nuclear Capabilities. If what we were being told by the Administration is accurate, and I see no reason why we would go to war if it wasn’t.
The utter devastation to parts of the World, if that capability did exist. The chance for an all out Nuclear Holocaust as a result of the first launch perhaps. Dirty bombs showing up across the Globe.
One could say, that we potentially saved the World a massive cluster F of epic proportions…
Because no administration ever would lie about WMD to get a war for the benefit of Israel, right?
I can’t speak for all administrations, but this one didn’t, in regards to Nuclear Weapons and Enriched Uranium. We know that to be true, as they said so themselves. So we got that…
He’s managed to stomp about in Iran for a month and jawbone markets such that they are basically unchanged, proving the markets are broken since the result has had material impacts to inflation, supply chains, gdp, regional tensions that should be discounted if markets were truly functioning. Sorta disgusting and yet impressive in a sick twisted way actually
I don’t think the markets are broken. they just know that everything he says is going to change after the stocks closed. Forced to wait until he acts rather than act on words.
“Two weeks” is Trumps code word for “we have nothing”. In other words this is the best Trump could come up with for an off ramp and the US is going to cave and walk away while claiming victory. The tell will be what happens with the straight. Who controls it.
The only upside for the US is that hopefully Donald has learned his lesson in trusting the Israelis.
You presumed he can learn.
Such innocent optimism. 😉
Here’s what will happen….next week the US and Israel with, without evidence accuse Iran of breaking the ceasefire and the US will attack immediately. This is in the playbook. Why Iran iOS falling for this idiocy I have no idea unless they can re-equip their missiles
Time is in Iran’s favor.
Time was in Iran’s favor while they kept the strait closed. Don’t see how time is on Iran’s side if the strait really is open and ships can come and go as they please. We need to understand what the new rules of the temporary strait opening are.
Ships gonna flee the Gulf
No ships will enter until there is a guarantee of being able to exit
Resumption of normal will be months from now
They are charging huge tolls now. Ships cannot come and go “as they please.” They still are militarily controlling the strait. Economic damage is still playing out. Trump’s political strength is faltering. And Iran’s homegrown weapons industry is simple compared to the US’s high tech weaponry. All these things play in Iran’s favor.
Trump badly needed “two weeks to fatten the bombs”
Everything I’ve read about US weapons says that lead times are measured in years, not days.
Israel has zero intention of stopping their war of aggression
Which is ironic, as “war of aggression” was one of the charges against the Nazi’s at Nuremberg
“The Nuremberg Trials established that planning, initiating, or waging a war of aggression was considered the “supreme international crime.” This marked the first time leaders were held accountable for such actions under international law.”
And maybe the last time.
It is truly amazing that there is anyone left who pays any attention to what taco says as he is so full of bs. Of course, those close to him are making a fortune knowing full well that he is going capitulate on every threat he makes. This clown needs to go and the sooner the better before he does lasting harm.
So you’re saying that the Strait will not open back up? That Iran will not capitulate? The war will go on?
Not a chance that occurs. It’s peace or devastation. Only an idiot would choose to die on this hill. Not a chance for victory or even to have a Country left if you were one of the few to come out alive.
They will live to fight another day, and they will fight another day. President Trump will be be long gone, and so won’t I and most reading this, by the time it does happen, but it will. It’s highly unlikely the survivors don’t want revenge, and they will try. Let’s hope Nuclear is not an option when they eventually do so…
“So you’re saying there’s a chance?” Hope dies eternal for you. Trump wimped out, you didn’t even get the made up things you wanted. Iran still has as much nuclear material as before the war. They are now militarily controlling the strait and collecting tolls. And the world knows that they have the ability to close it whenever they want. This is what Trump’s war got you: a situation dramatically worse than before it started. And it cost us billions of dollars and a lot of injured or dead soldiers. America’s reputation is in tatters and the whole world watched. This is what people like you are responsible for. It doesn’t even matter if you ever admit it- everyone around you knows.
Wow Phil, I was not aware that you were at the negotiating table with Trump and Iran leaders. Did they share anything else with you?
I wasn’t there like you, so all I heard, was a cease fire for a minimum of 2 weeks, the Strait open for all, and then open for good and for everyone after the agreement on the table is signed off on.
Unlike you I am not living in an imaginary “what if” universe.
Fact: Iran still has their enriched uranium.
Fact: Iran still has the same government intact.
Fact: Iran still controls the strait.
Fact: Iran retains capability to strike across middle east.
Everything else is hot air and bullshit. But you prefer hot air and bullshit to reality.
Over in reality, the IGRC has announced that the Strait is still closed due to Israel bombing Lebanon.
Do you actually read any news or is it just “Truth Social”, Fox, and White House Twitter?
am i only person here who KNOWS HOW GDP IS CALCULATED??
lower price of oi-energy would lower export overall,
thus will drag trade deficit higher , thus reduce GDP growth. % wise
TACO! The USA squanders the advantage and opportunity yet again because its politicians are mainly wimps who fear the world public wagging their collective fingers, fear a bit of economic pain and fear the possible loss of any military lives (that’s the risk you sign up for as a soldier).
This is why I look forward to humanoid AI Terminators on the battlefield in the next 2-5 years.
If we had this technology working right now, we could have done a Genghis Khan on Iran. Send in the almost invincible Terminators (who we don’t care if they get “killed”), capture and/or kill IRGC members, retrieve the uranium and then install a government that frees the Iranian citizens from the Regime/IRGC.
=This is why I look forward to humanoid AI Terminators
buddy what is in your University diploma?
He got his degree from Trump University.
=we could have done a Genghis Khan on Iran.
if you mo1ron ever opened hist book you would know IT WAS NOT DURING Genghis Khan mongols took over Iran. but much much later
jesus. you are st11upid!
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Genghis Khan had withdrawn to Mongolia, where he died in August 1227.
A second Mongol invasion began when Genghis Khan’s grandson Hülegü Khan crossed the Oxus in 1256
I’d guess China is ahead in the matter of Terminator-development, so you may be disappointed there.
You should be on a watch-list.