In a Rare White House Meeting, Biden Meets Powell to Discuss Inflation (Guilty Meets Guilty)

PCE from BEA, CPI from the BLS, chart by Mish

PCE vs CPI

  • PCE stands for Personal Consumption Expenditures. Those numbers come from the Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)
  • CPI stands for Consumer Price Index. Those numbers come from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS)

The key difference is the PCE includes prices paid on behalf of consumers (e.g. Medicare and Medicaid), whereas the CPI only contains prices directly paid by consumers.

The PCE tends to overweight medical expenses while the CPI tends to overweight rent.

The Fed’s preferred measure of inflation is PCE.

CPI and PCE Both Seriously Flawed 

Neither measure directly incorporates home prices. Economists explain this away by stating homes are a capital expense. 

OK, so what? The fact is, rising home prices (asset prices in general), are a direct reflection of inflation.

By ignoring asset prices, the Fed helped blow the biggest economic bubble yet. Now the Fed struggles to contain the serious inflation it helped create.

Congress and the President did their part too. One can easily see it in the lead chart. With the economy already goosed, Congress passed the biggest stimulus measure in history. 

At the same time the Fed kept it’s inane QE policy going all the way to March 2022. 

Biden to Meet Powell

Americans Enraged

Manchin tears into Biden and the Fed

On April 12, Business Insider reported Manchin Tears into Biden and the Fed

Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia tore into President Joe Biden’s administration on Tuesday for failing “to act fast enough” to stop rising inflation. 

The scorching statement comes as the White House tries to quietly woo Manchin back to the table for talks on Biden’s agenda. 

“When will this end? It is a disservice to the American people to act as if inflation is a new phenomenon,” Manchin said in a statement. “The Federal Reserve and the administration failed to act fast enough, and today’s data is a snapshot in time of the consequences being felt across the country.” 

Guilty Meets Guilty 

Americans are enraged, and rightfully so. 

Senator Joe Manchin accurately pinned the dual reason, an extremely rare triumph in politics. 

Senator Joe Manchin, and to a lesser extent Senator Krysten Sinema, deserve a huge round of applause for saving the country from a further raging inflation inferno from Biden’s Build Back Better plan.

Thank you Senators!

Oil Looking Bullish, President Biden, PM Boris Johnson, and EU Looking Foolish

Meanwhile, inept US, UK, and EU policies are fueling further inflation at the pump.

For discussion, please see Oil Looking Bullish, President Biden, PM Boris Johnson, and EU Looking Foolish

The supply chain disruptions over sanctions are massive and further contributing to inflation.

Also, note the End of the 40-Year Bull in Debt and a “Global Depression” Threat

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xbizo
xbizo
1 year ago
Maybe it’s too simple, but why aren’t housing costs for owned homes based on a moving average of let’s say mortgage payment, property taxes and Home Depot revenue. Those are the true owner cash flows – principal, interest, taxes and maintenance.
Then renters’ costs based on rent surveys. With the two weighted by their ‘population’ in the market.
Yes, it is a mix of capital cost and expense, but owned-home capital is locked up until death for most people. It is about cash flow, not balance sheet and income statement!
Owned-home cash flows are fixed for long periods. Usually, five years until a move when you are younger. Once retired, mortgages are paid down, leaving property tax and maintenance as the ongoing cost for 30-40 years more.
That declining cost has been also accelerated by declining rates for refinancing (for those staying in one home for life).
BDR45
BDR45
1 year ago
I don’t think the Federal Reserve can do much about this supply side inflation, unless they have a lot of farmland, mines and oil and NG producing wells, and the accompanying factories to turn the raw materials into finished goods.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago

William McChesney Martin Jr
reimposed interest rate pegs causing the Great Inflation. Volcker turned the
nonbanks into banks causing the S&L crisis. Greenspan dropped legal
reserves by 40% causing the housing bubble. Bernanke destroyed real-estate, the
nonbanks, and the home builders. Powell increased the Gini coefficient to the
highest level in 50 years.

Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Powell and Bernanke think money is irrelevant: “Bernanke’s conventional
wisdom is wrong: “a flawed and over-simplified monetarist doctrine that posits
a direct relationship between the money supply and prices”. Powell is an idiot: “The
connection between monetary aggregates and either growth or inflation was very
strong for a long, long time, which ended about 40 years ago”.
Core PCE peaked, the Fed’s preferred inflation
gauge, 5.3% (Jan), 5.0% (Feb), 4.8% (Mar), 4.7% (Apr) at the same time
long-term money flows, the volume and velocity of money, peaked (a mathematical constant).
david halte
david halte
1 year ago
Biden doesn’t care about inflation. His two progressive nominees to the Fed board were recently admited. Lisa Cook and Philip Jefferson have no monetary policy experience, or knowledge to manage 40-year high inflation. Democrats in congress don’t care about record high prices either, votes were split down party lines, with VP Harris breaking the tie. Democrats want middle America to pay for diversity.
goldguy
goldguy
1 year ago
They met a few hours ago, they probably discussed the current recession we are in…
Cocoa
Cocoa
1 year ago
Blaming the stimulus checks ? Thats a drop in the bucket. The real issue is political decisions destroying the global interdependent economy. Creating wars(US interference in Ukraine) to create base energy cost inflation is another. So everything from shipping, trucking to food has gone up. Its all on purpose to prevent deflation
Dr_Novaxx
Dr_Novaxx
1 year ago
If they made a movie together, it would be called “Bum and Bummer.”
Counter
Counter
1 year ago
Oh no, don’t meet with that guy.
Edible Insects stocks? Bill Gates sure likes them
Children are to be fed bugs as part of a plan to get a new generation to switch from meat to insects – and potentially persuade their parents to follow their lead.

Pupils at four primary schools in Wales are to be offered insects to eat as part of a project to gauge children’s appetite for “alternative protein” such as crickets, grasshoppers, and mealworms.

Meanwhile We need British wheat here! Fury as UK exports £70m despite food shortage crisis at home. Express co UK
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
1 year ago
Blaming the crippling inflation on “Putin” is not likely to be a winning strategy for KlownWorld incumbents in November.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Biden: This inflation is troubling the people.
Powell: Yup.
Biden: So, do you think the Nationals have a shot at a pennant this year?
killben
killben
1 year ago
Does it increase the chance of a 75 bps at the next meeting?
Inflation or market crash – which is worse for re-election?
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  killben
Inflation is worse for re-election. It effects a lot more people than a market crash does.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Since so much inflation is being caused by restricted supply of energy, metals, agricultural products, labor, etc. there is little that Powell or Biden can do short of crashing the economy, and what’s the point in that.
Better to do as little as possible and wait for prices to stabilize after supply and demand equalize.
Of course, that is most likely what they will do, while talking lots and pretending to “do something “.
Which is fine with me. Let oil prices keep rising till demand drops to match supply.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
It is easy to kill inflation if they want to.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
1 year ago
It’s pay-walled, so not for me.
Still, the benefit of what the illuminati are reading is worth knowing.
IMHO, Powell wished he had the options Volcker had.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Just use Firefox or Waterfox browser with NoScript add-on/extension.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
I spent a great deal of time this past week looking at zillow and property values. The good news is that there are price cuts in major markets that I am tracking: Houston, Chicago, Indianapolis, etc. The bad news is that it isn’t happening fast enough. As Buffet opines it’s “patience” that makes a good investor.
The inflation analysis is great but that ship has already sailed. The big question is what comes next?
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
Zillow’s pricing model is broken and always has been. We will soon find that Zillow was on the take from those that that benefit the most from pumping prices higher. I see shades of the mid 2000s real estate problems all over this.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
“Zillow’s pricing model is broken and always has been.” That’s a bold statement. What evidence do you have to back up this potential libelous claim?
And just to be clear, Zillow is a starting point in any investment opportunity. There is so much math that needs to be done to determine whether a property is good for rental: maintenance costs, insurance, property taxes, HOA fees, rental rates, comps, demographics, income levels, market competitiveness, etc.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
…plus tea leaves and horoscope.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Zillow clearly just compares recent sales within a geographic region with comparable lot and house sizes. It doesn’t take into account the condition of the house. You could have two houses of the same size. One newly renovated and another falling apart and Zillow would estimate the same.
goldguy
goldguy
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
What comes next is 40 or 50 year mortgages, yeah, really, lol
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  goldguy
That’s fine as long as the IRS extends depreciation from 27 years to 47 for rental properties. Then again, cash buyers interested in cash flow will only carry the minimum mortgage required to offset taxes.
Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish
1 year ago
Has anyone else seen any attempts to disentangle “inflation” from “inflation” from “inflation”?
The 1st would be the results of money printing.
The 2nd would be the results of traffic jams in the supply chain.
The 3rd would be the results of the usual odd events, e.g. Shanghai lock-down and Ukraine.
And that’s lazily ignoring the rest of things that can cause prices to rise, either globally or locally.
I’m no fan of Biden-staff and/or the Fed, but they seem no more than onlookers who catch the occasional foul ball. Or run shirtless out in the field. Entertaining, but distracting. For the good of the game, these guys should be ignored, not called upon to “Do something!
Mish
Mish
1 year ago
Reply to  Felix_Mish
What the heck did I just do?
Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
You’ve given good examples of price-rising situations, and written about prospective causes for those rising prices.
I am reacting to the word, “inflation”, and how it’s used by so many. Labeling several relatively distinct things “inflation” seems to make it too easy to keep a group of people confused.
Not a very good example: Saw something recently that explained how the price of gas has not really risen because, if you compensate for “inflation”, gas prices are not much more than in the past. Um. Well. Yeah. And, this “inflation” would be??? The price of gas, right? 🙂
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
Reply to  Felix_Mish
So you don’t think low rates and easy money policies were responsible for this ? We have to keep in mind inflation was high before events 2 and 3 above and that event 1 was driven by the White House (irrespective of occupant), Congress (irrespective of majority party) and the Fed.
My solution is normalize rates and remove all QE and then dissolve the Fed. With a fixed interest rate that rewarded both savers and investors and balanced inflation and deflation, there would be no need for fiddling with rates or policy. Let the economy normalize to say 2.5% rate (or whatever number is best) and no QE. Will there be pain ? Yes. Will we get deflation ? Yes because QE will be gone. Will asset value decline ? Yes. It is high time someone level with the people and let businesses get back to predictable policy. The best way to do that is go back to life before QE and life before rates at 0%. As long as everyone wants to serially blow bubbles to suit their own short term needs, the people are being sold more lies. The powers that be need to be very careful about everything after January 6th. If they do not level with the people and have an honest system there will be a more dishonest system to replace it and one that no one including the powers that be will live with.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  Felix_Mish
it’s not all the democrats fault, but they’ve contributed to it. They’ve put sanctions on Russia over a local conflict that has nothing to do with us. They’ve discouraged oil and gas production at every opportunity. Because they’re too dumb to understand how climate change actually works, so they’ve been easily brainwashed. They haven’t done anything to alleviate supply chain issues.
ColoradoAccountant
ColoradoAccountant
1 year ago
The stimulus wasn’t needed but would it have created this inflation alone, as the money would of been borrowed from the current money stock? The Fed’s buying the debt from the stimulus with newly created money might be the the real culprit? These are questions I have.
denker
denker
1 year ago
“Guilty Meets Guilty”, more apt would be incompetent meets clueless (or vice versa). The movie title for both would be ‘All the Wrong Moves’. Biden, marketed during the campaign as a “moderate’, jumped feet first into the radical left, green, BLM etc. programs. The absurdity of the WH looking to Venezuela and Iran to help reduce oil prices is the epitome of the disastrous anti fossil fuel policies adopted on Day 1. Mish has showered Powell with criticism highlighting the his inability (or unwillingness) to foresee the inevitable effects of the expansion of the Fed balance sheet by trillions and the collaboration, connivance and facilitation of Congressional/WH profligacy. Deserving of a second term Mr. Powell? As much as Rudolf Havenstein.

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