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Iran and Russia Want to Create a New Stablecoin Backed by Gold

New Stablecoin Backed by Gold

CoinTelegraph reports Iran and Russia Want to Issue a New Stablecoin Backed by Gold

The Central Bank of Iran is reportedly cooperating with the Russian government to jointly issue a new cryptocurrency backed by gold.

According to the Russian news agency Vedomosti, Iran is working with Russia to create a “token of the Persian Gulf region” that would serve as a payment method in foreign trade.

The token is projected to be issued in the form of a stablecoin backed by gold, according to Alexander Brazhnikov, executive director of the Russian Association of Crypto Industry and Blockchain.

The stablecoin aims to enable cross-border transactions instead of fiat currencies like the United States dollar, the Russian ruble or the Iranian rial. The report notes that the potential cryptocurrency would operate in a special economic zone in Astrakhan, where Russia started to accept Iranian cargo shipments.

It’s hard to do anything but snooze over this news. 

What does “backed by gold” even mean? How? Can you take delivery? 

Would you trust Iran and Russia have the gold that they say they have?

What other than weapons and grain, do Iran and Russia even trade with each other? Enough of anything to matter globally? 

Oil Priced in Gold Silliness

The above article is on the heels of nonsense about Saudi Arabia pricing oil in gold. 

That would not matter either. Outside of something completely illiquid like Yap Island stones, it does not matter what oil is priced in.

Currencies are immediately fungible. One does not need dollars to buy oil right now. It’s a trivial matter to exchange yen for dollars or vice versa. 

Gold is routinely priced in dollars. But you can buy gold in any country in the world right now without needing dollars. There are in fact multiple simultaneous quotes for any commodity right now based on exchange rates. 

Think of a grocery store in the US. What, besides confusion (and constantly changing prices) would happen if a store put prices in euros? 

Would you need euros to buy anything? No. Rather the prices would immediately adjust based on exchange rates. 

Simultaneous Prices

Perhaps it would help if you envisioned a US grocery store where three simultaneous prices were listed: one in dollars, one in euros, and one in gold ounces. 

In the US, the dollar price would be relatively stable. Store sales would last for a week or whatever. The others prices would change every second with exchange rates.

For a similar store in the Eurozone, the price in euros would be relatively stable, the others would fluctuate. 

In the US, no one would be walking around with euros and gold bullion even if prices were displayed in dollars, euros, and gold. People would adjust to exchange rates and make mental conversions.

Simply put, the pricing unit is irrelevant. 

Holding Unit

It’s the holding unit that matters, not the pricing unit. 

If every country suddenly decided to hold gold and not dollars, that certainly would matter. But that can happen right now, regardless of the pricing unit.

If Saudi Arabia wants to hold gold, euros, or yen it can do so right now. A quote in dollars is irrelevant.

As a side note, someone must hold every dollar that’s printed. But if the desire to hold gold rose, then the price of gold in dollars would rise. That’s what matters, not multiple simultaneous prices.

Meanwhile, if Iran and Russia launch a stablecoin backed by gold, are you buying any? 

Neither am I. 

This is a political stunt, symbolic, yet meaningless due to lack of trust.

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prumbly
prumbly
3 years ago
“… if Iran and Russia launch a stablecoin backed by gold, are you buying any?”
I don’t think that’s their aim. They aren’t creating this so that you will buy it. The purpose is for trade transactions and the pricing of goods they trade.
One way or another, the world is moving on from the days when 1 billion people dictated terms to the other 7 billion. The West will just have to adjust or be annihilated.
whirlaway
whirlaway
3 years ago
“Simply put, the pricing unit is irrelevant.”
Wrong. Take the case of India, a big oil importer. There are two factors to consider. One, oil price fluctuates. Two, the exchange rate of dollar vs. rupee/ruble/yuan/gold etc. fluctuates. If oil is priced in dollars and you want to use oil in the future, you can avoid both fluctuations by simply holding oil. If you hold dollars, you avoid one of the two fluctuations. If you hold any other currency, you are exposed to both the fluctuations. Ergo, assuming you don’t want to (or can’t) hold all that oil, you need to hold dollars.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
3 years ago
from james grant interview from zerohedge. “However, in the wake of the surge in inflation last year, interest rates have risen rapidly. Now inflation seems to be subsiding. Was the rise in prices only temporary after all?

Plainly, the rate of change has subsided, but what is often ignored is the level of inflation. The rate of change is everyone’s preoccupation, but the loss in purchasing power is never recovered. This is the nature of a fiat currency regime. Way back under the gold standard, prices would rise on average and they would fall on average, but at the end of very long cycles, they would be unchanged. In contrast, a fiat currency regime is characterized by the fact that prices ratchet ever higher and never are allowed to correct to the downside. So what we have is a very elevated level of average prices and a somewhat lower rate of rise in these prices.

vanderlyn
vanderlyn
3 years ago
great analysis. reserve preferences take decades and centuries to change, much. outside of defeated empires in battle. of course if one studies what FDR did in 1933, by making gold illegal, and then devaluing the buck, from 20 to 35. that’s a 75% inflation rate. not to be confused with a sawbuck, the ten spot.
TheCaptain
TheCaptain
3 years ago
“What does “backed by gold” even mean? How? Can you take delivery?”
The point of issuing currencies is to rip the holders of it off. Otherwise it becomes an unpaid service to unappreciative strangers which is dumb. The reason for name dropping “gold” in this is because without it the participation will be zero. Who needs yet another fakecoin? So gold is needed for the confidence factor. But without some kind of ability to take delivery on the gold at the backing rate, it is just another fractionally reserved con game.
As for utility, yes, it would have utility. But mainly probably to rich Russians and Chinese who want to escape the country with their wealth. Also, what would be the conversion process, especially the sell process. Can I convert dollars to this coin, cross some borders without questions, and then convert back quickly, easily and quietly without a huge processing fee? If so, yes it has utility.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  TheCaptain
Would your reaction be different if Swiss banks offered a gold-backed crypto unit (per ‘Gram), redeemable in physical gold at any Credit Suisse bank (for example), less a small handling charge? The cost to purchase a gram is the current price of gold in the buyer’s currency plus a small handling fee. Upon buying the gram(s), the bank simultaneously buys and stores the gram(s).
CRS65
CRS65
3 years ago
These rogue countries (regimes) are so desperate to figure out a way to prosper (maintain domestic power) in a world that operates on principles and rules in which they cannot abide by while maintaining their autocratic rule. The Ukrainian war has pulled the curtain back on just how inept and weak the world’s autocratic “superpower” really is. China just posted its weakest economic growth in 40 years and the first year of negative population growth in 60 years. These dictatorial central planning autocracies are unsustainable and ultimately will prove to failed states if they do not reform and join the world of principled rules, democracy, and laws.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  CRS65
It has become obvious in recent decades that In order to achieve a exemplary, exceptional ‘sustainable’ status, a nation or a criminal alliance of nations (nato), it is absolutely imperative to attack, under false pretexts, far away countries that are none of your fn business, like, to name just a few, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria etc, killing MILLIONS of people in the process . Orchestrating coups in ‘unfriendly’ too independent nations has become a more fashionable MO in recent years, more recently, waging a proxy war with dispensable, fanatic, foreign cannon fodder, against a nuclear military super power, has become the latest , outrageous provocation…..hopefully not the last…..in all aspects that would be ! ‘Exceptional’, yet ever so desperate nations should stop pushing their fn luck !
CRS65
CRS65
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
After WWII, the victors, who defeated a lunatic dictator, a maniacal autocrat, and a waning imperial power feeling threatened by its giant neighbor to the west and a rising superpower to the east, reordered the world for peace through the formation of the UN and NATO. This order is about a global community and minimizing the chance of another Hitler rising and another world war. What cannot be tolerated in a such a world is land seizures through military might and autocrats who brutally oppress its population or engage in genocide. Hitler consolidated power by oppressing or “eliminating” his political rivals and engaged in systematic genocide before he began invading neighboring countries. A civilized world learns from its history and takes actions to prevent dark episodes of history from repeating.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  CRS65
Mentioning US’ alleged merits during WW2 is rather anachronistic …..Your nation has become a fn warcriminal ever since , there s an impressive list, if you can be bothered to look, showing what atrocities you ve been up to in the name of fn demockrazy…. Hey but maybe it is better to be deluded( brainwashed?) and ignorant…..must be blissful
CRS65
CRS65
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Its pretty simple for the leaders of countries to live peacefully in a world community so long as they don’t treat their country and its people as possessions to further their power and wealth and don’t use their country’s resources to expand the reach of their rule and power. Country’s can have different forms of government, different levels of religious integration, and different cultures, but what cannot be tolerated in the world post WWII are leaders of countries who oppress, brutalize, and exterminate their own people and who use force to remain in power and expand the reach of their power. It is really not that hard of a concept. We all live on the same planet and we thus we are all neighbors. Play by a broad set of rules and you will get along with the rest of your neighbors. Abuse your wife and kids, harass other neighbors, steal and vandalize other’s property and your neighbors will do whatever they can to run you out of the neighborhood and have you put in jail. The U.S. Britain, other allies in WWII risk it all to stop Hitler, Mussolini, and the Japanese Emperor from terrorizing weaker nations and exterminating Jews and political enemies. The world owes an eternal debt of gratitude to these nations and the principles upon which they were built. Those principles are the reason that most of the world is not under fascist rule today.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  CRS65
How fn gullible you sound ….
prumbly
prumbly
3 years ago
Reply to  CRS65
Rather amusing. If you were actually aware of what is going on in the world beyond CNN and MSNBC you would realize that it is the West that is now isolated (and they did it to themselves). Interestingly, it is now the West becoming ever more authoritarian as it weakens, while the rest of the world becomes more free as it strengthens. They are trading places!
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Early days still, with lots of jockeying by countries eager to bring down the USA and the EU. Clearly, change is afoot.
Let’s look at history; to wit…. Post WW2/Bretton Woods, specifically the United Nations Monetary and Financial Conference. The plan was for a system of fixed but adjustable exchange rates so that the currencies were pegged against the dollar,
with the dollar itself convertible into gold.
As we know, convertibility went out the window, MUCH TO THE ADVANTAGE OF THE USA.
No way will the USA return to convertibility. Being the global faux currency, it has too much to loose. I have a hunch that a gold-backed crypto (with safeguards to prevent the US from taking control) might be a game changer.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
To continue, since I ran out to editing time…
In terms of ‘lack of trust’, what, exactly, has the US done recently to retain/regain trust in the global arena? Sanctions? Ongoing devaluation of the currency? Blowing up pipelines?
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
3 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
WMD. 9.11.01 response for 20 plus years. global war on terror was actually just a war against amerikan people privacy. nobody in the world trusts amerika anymore, outside wolf blitzer’s situation room. of course we are still a wildly rich country and folks we bomb and abuse, want to come inside the empire. just like barbarians to romans. the rub most get confused. i live amongst haitians. a slave revolt nation with 200 years of sanctions. they get the reality, but also prefer not to starve, and working hard in usa gets them much riches. i’ve had hundreds of conversations with them for long time.
prumbly
prumbly
3 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Countries don’t need to jockey to bring down the West – the West appears quite capable of doing it itself, and it is doing so. We now see the West cutting off trade with the increasing free world (free from the yoke of Western hegemony) as it further isolates itself. The EU has sanctioned itself in the foot, while its target, Russia, thrives. Too late the West realizes its industrial dependency on other countries, but it can’t re-industrialize because of the self-imposed box it has put itself in with its “climate crisis” narrative. And so the West just sits there sulking, angry and resentful, lashing out wherever it can but increasingly powerless. Meanwhile, the rest of the world moves on apace. Fascinating to watch this play out.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
I’m waiting for a metallic, fixed-weight, solid gold coin backed by fiat.
They can then do whatever they want with their paper and digital zeros.
8dots
8dots
3 years ago
DX : up in 2014. Formed a 7 years trading range. The lower boundaries touched 2009 high. Up in 2021 to Sept 2021 high, plunge 50% of the
move from May 2021 lows. The lower boundaries breached Jan 2017 and Mar 2020 high. // Option #1 : a spring that will form a one year distribution area with July 2022 high. // Option #2 : DX to 130. // Option #3 : after a failed spring DX will test : Jan 19 hi/ Feb 2 lo, 2015 BB …for fun and entertainment only.
LM2022
LM2022
3 years ago
How many potatoes can you buy with one PutinCoin anyway?
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  LM2022
How many eggs can you buy with one US dollar?
hhabana
hhabana
3 years ago
I’d buy it. Not a problem. I’ve long said that a crypto tied to gold would be the way to go. I’ve owned BTC, ETH and LTC (Litecoin) in the past when I thought crypto was a swell idea. I was fortunate to get out while things were still “fluffy.” My opinion is that crypto really is a Ponzi or a glorified Western Union. Wouldn’t put a penny in it, but BTC came to my mind recently when Putin stated he wanted to use it. Maybe then, you can play off people’s greed. Still, I wouldn’t look at it as an investment, but a trade.
“This is a political stunt, symbolic, yet meaningless due to lack of trust.”
Are you referring to the government that won’t release records of the JFK assassination (60 years later!), Epstein sex list or even his assassination in prison in our “modern” age of surveillance, the auditing of Fort Knox by a third party (as suggested by Ron Paul), and the continuous money printing by our broke government? You mean that government?
One thing learned about financial pundits over the years is they know more than me, and also know nothing. As Peter Lynch says to use your own two eyes and life experience. Best advice that I’ve ever read.
rojogrande
rojogrande
3 years ago
Reply to  hhabana
“Are you referring to the government that won’t release records of the JFK assassination (60 years later!), Epstein sex list or even his assassination in prison in our “modern” age of surveillance, the auditing of Fort Knox by a third party (as suggested by Ron Paul), and the continuous money printing by our broke government? You mean that government?”
How does that have anything to do with trusting the governments of Russia and Iran to administer a gold-backed stable coin?
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  rojogrande
have another closer, analytic look at Mish’s article I d say…..
rojogrande
rojogrande
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Lol! So you can’t answer that simple question either.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  hhabana
…..absofnlutely true…..WELL SAID !
Billy
Billy
3 years ago
“Currencies are immediately fungible.” Tell that to the citizens of China who are being forced to only using Digital RMB.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  Billy
I don’t know about the Digital RMB, however, Chinese are ‘willingly’ buying gold at a premium.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
3 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
i’m pretty sure chinese have been encouraged to buy silver for a long time, too.
Billy
Billy
3 years ago
The BRICS are looking to a currency that is backed by gold.
Although it may soon be called the RICKS now that the citizens supposedly elected a former self proclaimed socialist President who was just serving time in prison for corruption and money laundering.
whirlaway
whirlaway
3 years ago
Reply to  Billy
Lula was actually one of the founders of BRICS. It was the Bolsonaro government that was paying mere lip service to being in BRICS – attending the meetings, saying a few nice things etc.
Billy
Billy
3 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
That’s good to know about Lula’s connections and stance with the other BRICS. It blows me away with how many political parties there are in Brazil and how it seems that 95% of them are Socialist.
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
The thing that will kill the US dollar is countries not suppressing the value of their currencies relative to USD. Once they stop buying USD in mass to prop up it’s value, USD will collapse.
Matt3
Matt3
3 years ago
Excellent analysis on payments, currencies and gold.
rogoclub1
rogoclub1
3 years ago
The U.S. should have had this Bitcoin Cryptocurrency regulatory BS resolved 5 years ago!..
China, Russia, Iran, India make the U.S. the armpit of the world with its “READY AIM SHOOT” policies ultimately hurting the middle class & Gen Zs future, Massively PATHETIC swamp I hope if there’s ever a Nuke aimed at the U.S. it hits me in the head first!..
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
3 years ago
Reply to  rogoclub1
most world wide flung empires, neglect the home front. romans to spanish to US empire. the homeless, overdoses, and general depression in amerikans minds, is direct result of our imperial wastefulness. bombing god forsaken places and rebuilding them instead of just building and taking care of ourselves.
PreCambrian
PreCambrian
3 years ago
There already is a gold backed stablecoin, PAXG. From Paxos.
rktbrkr
rktbrkr
3 years ago
Two economic powerhouses, NOT. Iran exports rugs, oil and pistachios and Ru exports fish eggs, oil and questionable quality arms. .
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  rktbrkr
…..talking about ‘questionable’ quality arms …, instead of pretending to shoot down 95% of russian missiles , the ‘democratic’ Ukraine regime finally ‘admitted’, (after firing Nazilensky’s adviser who for once expressed the truth) , that Russian missiles can not be stopped ……LOL …. Please CNN and other western propaganda outlets, TELL ME MORE fn LIES !
Cocoa
Cocoa
3 years ago
If it’s backed by gold, it’s only good if you can get the gold in physical. Does anyone trust the Russians or Iranians to make good on this conversion? The US dollar was also backed by gold and the US defaulted multiple times. It’s all fiat-in the end Vodka became the only useful currency after a massive collapse of the Soviet Union
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Cocoa
Vodka?
Fungible
Divisible
Store of Value if kept corked.
Hmmm
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
3 years ago
Reply to  Cocoa
lots of companies vouchers converted to shares by paying vodka and prostitute services. for the future “oligarchs”. in currency war book, post 9.11.01 war games…… the opening move in CIA war game was russia goes to a gold standard with convertibility in i think it was london and zurich. the feds said that wasn’t fair. i suspect we will see china or russia or perhaps germany do such a thing in future. maybe even italy or CA.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
This is a fantastic idea! Everyone trusts those stable and transparent regimes.

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