It’s a multi-front war in Israel as the Houthis in Yemen and Hezbollah in Jordan launch an attack. But Iran says attack is over already.
Israel Braces for Impact
Haaretz reports Iran Launches Missiles, Drones as Israel Braces for Impact; Houthis, Hezbollah Join Attack
- First Iranian attack drones will reach Israel around 2 A.M., defense officials estimate; Israel to close airspace.
- Over 100 drones intercepted outside Israeli territory with assistance from U.S. and U.K., Israeli army radio reports. IDF deploys GPS jamming
- Israeli war, security cabinets convene, Israeli army intensifies emergency guidelines, shuts down schools and large gatherings.
- IDF confirms ballistic missiles launched at Israel as explosions heard above Jlem, major cities in Israel’s south and north
Silliness Spreads
Clearly, Greenwald is correct.
Iran Says its ‘Military Action’ Is ‘Concluded’
“Conducted on the strength of Article 51 of the UN Charter pertaining to legitimate defense, Iran’s military action was in response to the Zionist regime’s aggression against our diplomatic premises in Damascus. The matter can be deemed concluded. However, should the Israeli regime make another mistake, Iran’s response will be considerably more severe. It is a conflict between Iran and the rogue Israeli regime, from which the U.S. MUST STAY AWAY!”
Concluded Already
Q: Does this make any sense?
A: Yes
First: Iran does not want a full war with Israel.
Second: The Israeli attack on Damascus on April 1 that led to Iran’s retaliation was illegal.
“Diplomatic buildings are entitled to broad protections from attack or other interference by the host country under international customary law, codified in the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations and the 1963 Convention on Consular Relations.”
Here’s an alternate view from the NYT.
“Israel is a third state and is not bound by the law of diplomatic relations with regard to Iran’s Embassy in Syria,” said Aurel Sari, a professor of international law at Exeter University in the United Kingdom.
Then again
“Embassies are protected from use of force in an armed conflict, not primarily because they are embassies but because they are civilian objects,” said Yuval Shany, an international law professor at Hebrew University in Jerusalem. “Therefore, in principle, it is not permissible to target an embassy in the same way it’s not permissible to target a school.”
Third: The distance involved made the attack symbolic.
Conclusion
- Iran felt obliged to respond to an action by Israel that many would conclude is illegal.
- Iran did respond but in a manner that was unlikely to accomplish anything but preserve honor.
However, Iran’s response is likely to stir up more sympathy in Congress for aid to Israel.
This is of course what Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu wanted in the first place when he attacked the embassy in Syria.
Everything fits nicely.
Spotlight US Congress
War hawks in Congress will be clamoring for more money for defense, more money for Ukraine, and more money for Israel.
To buy votes of Democrats who object to more money for Israel, expect monetary sweeteners for pet projects.
It’s always more of this in return for more of that.
Paying the Bill
Cumulative Issuance
- From 2013-2019 the total amount of treasuries outstanding rose from $11.854 trillion to $16.663 trillion. That’s an increase of $4.809 trillion in six years.
- From 2019-2023 the total amount of treasuries outstanding rose from $16.673 trillion to $26.366 trillion. That’s an increase of $9.693 trillion in four years.
For more details, please see How Much Treasury Issuance Does the US Add Every Month to Finance Debt?
Another point of view –
https://twitter.com/fadiquran/status/1779426300760850642?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1779426300760850642%7Ctwgr%5Ea41331ffa90242bb7065d2cf1034d832c5291234%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theautomaticearth.com%2F2024%2F04%2Fdebt-rattle-april-15-2024%2F
Estimated cost of one day Israeli defense 13 April 2024 is 1.2 to 1.3 billion dollars US.
Not including additional expenditures by US and UK.
From Haaretz Jul 31, 2022:
“U.S. Marines Tested Israel’s Iron Dome. Here’s What They Really Proved
The U.S. Army has already acquired two Iron Dome missile defense batteries, but is not deploying them and is interested in purchasing a U.S.-made system instead”
one hell of a fantastic racket scam for the MIC mafia …..AGAIN !
186 comments showing the sensivity of the issue…..Allow me to recapitulate swiftly on Israel’s Real Estate project, for that s what it is.
For ages now, smart sophisticated jews have been illegally occupying land belonging to backward palestinians, endlessly terrorising and killing the latter during the criminal process. In october last year a gone berserk Hamas fraction, amazingly penetrating a very protected fence, some evil speakers even pretending with help from the very Izzies, taking hostages and killing, whether staged or not, hundreds of jewish. As a response the equally gone berserk almighty Israel starts bombing and killing indiscriminately, Residential areas and even hospitals are being ruthlessly destroyed eliminating more than 30 thousand among which countless women and children, a good palestinian is a dead palestinian they must be thinking. Even UN and foreign aid workers got murdered ! Go figure what msm would say if Putin did it, the Izzies on the other hand get away with outright murder, torturing and starvation! Yeah the poor Palestinians get help from Iran, thats why the consulate in Damascus got bombed killing 16. Iran symbolically retaliated sending some drones into Israel killing NOBODY . That s all …..with idiocy suffering, (circumsized?) bigots here , wanting , hoping even, for Israel to do what it did in Gaza. Civilization at its best !
Lesson 1: don’t start wars with a powerful adversary
Lesson 2: In wars, civilians die. Always have, always will
Lesson 3: If your civilians act like barbarians as have more than just a few innocent Palestinians have, don’t expect even the peaceniks in Israel to tolerate it.
Any questions?
Gog, Meshech and Tubal seem to be on the move
The whole strike could likely have been averted had the UN Security Council done its job and uphold international law, condemning Israel.
As for the damage to Ramon airport and others as well as select military installations, I am still awaiting videos of how pristine and unscathed it all looks. Note that Israel routine lies about everything; right now they’re blocking any footage and reports from getting out of the country and into the media.
Nah, this war was started by the Gazan government. Take it up with them.
Why is the Sapiens Ape, the male version in particular, such a violent, bloodthirsty, power hungry , perverse bastard ?? …..I have been studying the matter thoroughly in recent years and have reached a final albeit humble conclusion : given that almost everything in our behaviour is somehow undeniably sex related, our despicable conduct is probably due to the lack of a baculum !
You must have studied Freud then, which is a bunkum. The guy was probably sex starved to the point of going ape. Ask today’s teen if they want sex or video games.
The violent wars have something to do with territory and honour/pride to be a top dog in the all-muscle-no-brain games.
….I was merely wisecracking, trying to anyway. Judging by your grave, poker-faced response , I obviously failed dramatically 🙁
Freud was one of the inbred jews I mention above.
The Jews second issue:.
The matriarchal jewish society/culture causes Jewish men to feel insecure and never good enough for the BPD Yenta that bore them. Can you imagine Netanyahoo in children’s short pants and a sailor hat? Infatilization is one of the other outcomes for Jewish men as well as obsessive sexualization of everything. Also high rates of homo sexuality since their creepy mother made women too horrifying to attach to, and lastly you have a man child trapped to his last breath trying through achievement to get the love he never received from his castrating mother. Trying to get the love you never received motivates the Jewish man to succeed to an irrational degree, that’s all it is. They just try harder, but why they try harder, is an enigma to them. (Of course this applies non jews as well.)
People who pursue the field of mental health suffer from rates of mental illness far above the plebs. The APA did a study of this then hid it when the numbers were off the chart. Freud was a mental basket case and a drug addict.
Freud was a creepy Jew who never met a whole human. It’s was the human dilemma through the lens of Jewish culture.
I read books I know things
(((They’re stealing our vital body fluids.)))
Albinism causes a form of violent aggression well know to commercial livestock breeders, all white chickens peck each other to death while brown ones get along in peace.
We are witnessing the “Intersection of Insanities.”
The Europeans are derived from albinos. Blue eyes are the hallmark of albinism.
The Khazarian Jews are inbred, they are all 3rd cousins. Look it up. They went through a filter at some point and all have common ancestors. This has led to profound genetic based dysfunctions in their psychology – significant and pernicious enough to make them immune to therapy. For the Khazarian Jew therapy is a lifelong pursuit.
So? You have rage filled Europeans in bed with genetically deranged Jews threatening the world with annihilation. It’s like turning over the nuclear football to the lock down, top floor, psych unit of your local hospital.
The non inbred Jews in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Ethiopia do not suffer from persecution complex’s and delusions of grandeur? They get along with their neighbors and all is fine.
Are you starting to get the picture yet?
Persecution complexes make people impossible to live with. Their paranoia erodes every interpersonal relationship. Borderline Personality disordered person’s are convinced whomever is within their sphere is causing their self loathing issues? Same with the depressed, the nebbish, the anxious, the paranoid, the greedy and the compulsion to control others in sociopathy and psychopathy. BPD highly prevalent in the Jew.
The western world in the grip of incurable insanity.
But believes it is sane?
Cross dressers and Tranny’s in US Military leadership and Government are one issue the fact the plebs don’t see anything wrong with it is another.
This will not end well.
Great article in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz. Israel has been defeated!
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-04-11/ty-article-magazine/.premium/saying-what-cant-be-said-israel-has-been-defeated-a-total-defeat/0000018e-cdab-dba9-a78e-efef6ba10000
I guess slaughtering women and children doesn’t make for a strong robust nation. Rather it’s a sign of weakness.
Someone forgot to inform those running Israel, that the adage about it being better to be feared than loved, doesn’t really apply anymore; when there are only 5 million of (hardly fertile…) you, against 2 billion; and rapidly growing; of those you’re making yourself dependent on fearing you.
I love mythology. Say more.
More dangerous there or Shitcago this weekend?
“Israel is a third state and is not bound by the law of diplomatic relations with regard to Iran’s Embassy in Syria”.
I doubt if this guy (and the resident warmongers) will be singing the same tune if, for instance, Iran attacks the US embassy in Iraq.
My view is Israel will need to send a very loud message of deterrence to border states that wish its’ destruction.
This being a geographic situation as being surrounded by armed countries committed to its’ annihilation.
Live and let live is not going to be allowed as a state of coexistence in Middle East.
Unfortunately this will lead directly to escalation at this point of time.
Hate to use as metaphor but is appropriate. All small boys when finding a nest of yellow jackets hanging from an apple tree, just have to try their hand at throwing apples at said nest. After getting stung several times they understand, will not be doing that again.
Israels seven day War bought by blood, brought with it some peace for a time in middle east. That time has been forgotten and Blood Lust runs high in Middle east again.
Can Iran overwhelm IDF defense if it deploys the 150,000 weapons it could fly at Israel at once. I would say yes as Hamas attack almost accomplished that.
For now Iran has been testing IDF capability using proxies. This first Iranian attack was nothing but a jab thrown.
Israel will be doing some stinging over next days. Better that then using its’ nuclear weapons as last resort.
Biden’s state department has destabilized middle east and consequences are now materializing.
Not sure why US props up Israel. They use and abuse their “friends”.
Harry Truman green lighted formation of Jewish State as consequence for Holocaust suffering.
United States being sole world power with an intact industrial Base after WW2 had the power to do that.
That support has not wavered as official US policy since that time.
Biden being two faced liar he is tries to play both sides. Destabilizes whole regions of World. This regional war is unfolding precisely because of that.
Am old enough to have worked for some survivors who had their Concentration Camp number Tattoos on arm.
This is very complex situation with ages of Turmoil behind it.
I do have problem believing Israel intelligence services could have missed Hamas invasion plans. Leaving Israel open to invasion, which started current round of Warfare.
Have heard multiple arguments/perspectives on how this occurred. The most believable (to my eyes) is that the Israelis got complacent and let their human intelligence die on the vine, which is astounding. They live in one of the toughest neighborhoods in the world and you can’t be complacent.
Look no further than US armament manufacturers and the funding of US election campaigns.
I get it that “laws” were broken but this is war. Laws don’t matter in war especially for the US. We had no problem suppling “outlawed” cluster bombs for Ukraine to use against Russia.
I’m sick of countries hiding behind the so called laws of war that they have no problem breaking when its to their advantage.
Yes, recently the sword has been winning more than the pen.
Land mines are supposedly outlawed too but Russia has planted millions of them in Ukraine. Also Russia does use cluster munitions in Ukraine against Ukrainians.
Well, the US uses cluster ammunition in Ukraine against Russians. But it’s okay. The Americans didn’t want to have to spend tax dollars to destroy their cluster munitions safely in the US.
The US military didn’t want to destroy them if no one else would destroy theirs like the Russians, the Chinese, The North Koreans, the Iranians and a few more.
running out of ‘normal’ stuff, the US delivered cluster ammo to Whorekraine , remember ? ….or did you conveniently forget ?
Nice of Israel to shower Syria, Jordan and Saudi Arabia with fragments.
Smart move to dump that junk outside of Israel territory on someone else’s land.
But, as we all know now, Israel does not care about anyone but Israel.
Iran is responsible for shooting them at Israel. Why is Israel supposed to be responsible for disposal?
Because Israel/US/UK is dumping Iran’s trash in someone else’s backyard.
yes, everything happens in a vacuum, Lisa.
An Iranian drones costs $20K. A patriot missle costs $4million. Raytheon is winning this fight. The US tax payers are the big losers.
US and big defense unloading new old junk into Ukraine and Israel and buying worse junk like f-35 hoopiejet. We also left all that junk in Afghanistan so now Taliban is the pick and Pull for weapons making them enormous money. Joe Biden is as dumb as the day is long
How did you get an image with your name? What is your secret? Who do you know?
You have to be a registered user on wordpress, then you link your wordpress account to gravatar.com
Thanks
don t do it ! Someone might still recognise you …..
I am going to put your face on it so all your friends think you are me.
A couple thoughts popped into my mind.
The UN law only pertains to the host’s action to an embassy, not action against an embassy by a non-host nation.
The US military assets were in transit to Israel when Iran launched this attack. The late arrival of supplies indicates the situation will escalate beyond last night’s fireworks display.
Iran has a better proxy war going on, so I’d have to agree the direct drone and missile attack was a way for Iran to save face.
Did Iran violate Jordan, Syria, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia air-space? If any of those countries did not attempt to shoot down those drones; they are complicit, and risk being drawn into the conflict. I can understand Syria would support such a transgression. Iraq has bad blood with Iran and is harboring resentment toward the US for destroying the entire country to remove Saddam Hussein.
Since my post, reports came out stating Jordan and Iraq air defense systems targeted drones and missiles from Iran. Israel has retaliated through attacking Hezbollah in Lebanon. Things are escalating, and alliances are forming.
Israel has the mentality of a school yard bully. Oct 7 took away their supposed deterence and showed that Israel is vulnerable. Israel’s over the top reaction is an attempt to re-establish their deterence. But all they are doing is making more enemies and no one is deterred.
Hamas is winning in Gaza on the military front. Israel is winning in its turkey shoot of the civilian population. But, that is just creating more Hamas fighters. Bibbi’s and Ben Gavir’s carefully laid plan to drive the Palestinians from Gaza. Israelis finds itself in a problem and can’t admit defeat. Thus they are working to widen the war and bring the US in to save them. Time to pull the plug on the nasty Zionist project.
Iran is using up Israel’s defense system, one drone attack at a time. This inexpensive tiny war machines, are extremely cheap compared to the iron dome, and readily available by the tens of thousands. They can also pin point targets based on the retaliation amongst other things that can help with.
This is why Ukraine is using drone strikes, except Russia doesn’t have an Iron Dome to protect against them. So they have been effective, and that’s why Russia just said enough!
Then it would make economic sense for Israel to destroy things in Iran that cost more than the cost of Iron Dome and David’s Sling so as to make Iran wonder if the attack was worth it. Have any favorite targets in mind like something really expensive and hard-to-impossible to replace?
Except sooner or later actual civilians are going to die on both sides. That’s the calculus that has to be factored in when you are ‘destroying objects that cost money’
At the moment, other than a few deaths in the Iranian embassy, there have been no civilian deaths. If both sides continue to shoot then there will be civilian casualties. Do you think the people who are going to die in both countries think its worth it to shoot to destroy some more objects?
I have no idea what the average Iranian thinks, but I suspect that in a democracy like Israel that the population doesn’t want to experience any more deaths than necessary.
Israel already has suffered considerable civilian casualties not only by Iranian and Hezbollah missiles but by torture, rape and captivity of the worst sort. Now Iran has sent a considerable number of explosives onto Israel hoping to inflict even more deaths and you expect that any retaliation by Israel should not involve any Iranian deaths at all?
If I were in charge, I would lob some missiles directly into the streets when Iran called for their supporters to show up in one of their massive rallies.
go’ yer li’l one circumsized by any chance ?
You are definitely circumcised.
we have a hamas fan!
you a djewish Nazilensky fan ?
Scrolling through these comments reveals a sad truth about the effectiveness of propaganda and the stupidity of most Americans. Seeing Mike break these events down and reveal the motivations behind the key players to his readership is like watching Bill Maher educate his liberal audience on the drawbacks of wokism.
The political Right in the USA is in a sorry state. They have fallen for Zionist-AIPAC propaganda. Even the so-called “MAGA” crowd. I thought the MAGA crowd was against censorship and foreign entanglements. But ever since the Israeli’s went on their Genocidal rampage in Gaza and rightly caught flak for conservatives have changed their tune. They now support censorship against critics of their new favorite country… Israel. Conservatives and Mr. MAGA himself, Trump, support funding and supplying weapons for Israel’s bombing of civilian populations and other war crimes. I think it’s safe to conclude that many Republicans, conservatives, and self styled alt-Righters are just as much as cancer in the USA as woke liberals are.
I agree with of most of what you said, but, I do think there is a large right wing contingent that isn’t on the Israel fan parade. Paul Gottfried has been a big disappointment but he’s an old dottering man who can’t think straight. Also the alt-right is definitely not in support of Israel. The right has become infested with the neocons whose leadership are primarily Jewish Zionists. That’s the problem. Well, that and the Evangelical zionist him are so enamored with Biblical prophecy that they can no long tell right from wrong.
Agree. Hatred is a cancer. Politicians use hate to whip up support. In the process they weaken the nation.
Being “political” f*cks with your brain. Then you make cancerous comments on sites like this; that only serve to grow that hatred.
Which is why I want an IGNORE button. To be able to block those that spew hate.
It doesn’t fix the problem though. Only blocks what they say to YOU. Everyone still sees what they are spewing.
That’s good enough for me. Nothing I can do about others.
hey papa, oil in for a boost tomorre’ you reckon ?
Don’t see why it would. But the future is hard to predict.
Like most brainwashed people you hate anyone who shares thoughts that disagree with yours. That’s called being a fascist – first they silence the opposition then they ASSANGE them.
I pointed out your absurd climate fallacy and your response to me was to ask Mish for a blocker button. Proving that plants evolved with and prefer up to 3- 4 times as much carbon then is currently (400 PPM) in the atmosphere and they start dying at 350 PPM (is hate in your opinion.
Verifiable truths are not hate.
You hate truthful things whose truths you ignore.
Either you’re:
A. Liar
B. Fascist
C. Self Serving Hypocrite
D. Still have a shred of a conscience and the cognitive dissonance is beating you up.
On the other hand I want to hear what everyone thinks (even you) since it gives the opportunity to upgrade my world view.
A. It’s good to know how ignorant people have become.
B. Occasionally a truly smart person will enlighten me.
Lol! Can’t wait for the IGNORE button so I never have to see your future cult posts.
Keep going down that rabbit hole.
“Hatred is a cancer. Politicians use hate to whip up support.”
Touche!
………..
All true. I find reflexive ignorance everywhere.
My favorite bumper sticker:
“Read A xxxxing Book”
Second favorite:
” I read books – I know things”
Starting in the late 70’s with Beirut and Carter; (the hostages were released when Reagan got into office BTW) The publishing and news world were combined into a super propaganda state apparatus. Then came the DARPA with the internet which of course made it all so much easier to control what everyone believed. Then the CIA put bureaus in the news offices and the revolving door between government and the information promogulators became one, them hundreds of senior ex CIA, Homeland Security, State Department chumps were given high positions in Google, X, FB, etc. ( not Tik Tok BTW.
I collect books from 5 epochs 1850 or things that took place around then and written soon after.
Then 1900 – 1920.
Then 1942 ish like Lin Yutangs book “Laughter to Tears” where he somehow predicts everything happening today, including Britain instigating war against Russia and Japan being re armed to curtail China (all this before ww2 ended?
The publishing industry was destroyed and consolidated by the late 70’s. Everything written after that is literally fake. Everything taught in college is based up malleable sniveling self serving lies that brought us to the 100% fake world we are living in today.
Almost everything everyone believes is part of an agenda, a fabrication/propaganda. Movies are fake, TV is fake, College is fake, NYT is fake,
When I go to used book sales the fake titles after the 1981 scream at me FAKE FAKE FAKE.
I have tried repeatedly to get very intelligent people to see the obvious lies they accommodate in their world view. It’s impossible. You can pull them out for a bit then they revert.
I conclude from this it’s a hopeless situation. That animals incapable of reconnoitering reality are doomed. Like living atop lava in Pompei or Thera and ignoring the increasing rumbling of the Volcano.
All thinking is reflexive and emotional now. If they look for the truth anywhere it’s 50 years of fake to look for it in.
To correct this view took me at least 12 years so I can’t imagine there is any hope it gets better for the masses.
caveat: GenZ does not believe anything coming out of the faucets filling Trump and Biden and Kennedy tard’s heads.
Prolly a good time to think about moving to the Southern Hemisphere because when the stupidity reaches a crescendo like this – survival becomes increasingly doubtful.
Sounds to me like you’ve wasted 12 years of your life going down your own rabbit hole.
And, the southern hemisphere is the wrong place to move to.
I doubt very much judging by your simple thought processes and resistance to new ideas – you have even read a non fiction book outside the normie pablum in 5 years.
Caveat: I’m sure you’ll read books that support your emotional and fearful world view.
The Southern Hemisphere is awesome the largest book conference in the world is held in Buenos Aries – a million people attend.
I have a library with over 10,000 non fiction books. I buy one banana box of books every few weeks. I bought a box yesterday actually all written before 1980. I have never watched TV. As a result my brain is architected differently from yours. It’s why pre TV older books are so much smarter that those written by those raised on TV. I can’t read a recent book. They’re trash, one of my good friends is NYT best seller – they made a movie from one his book and starting another now. Never read em.
I’ve lived all over the world. I have friends all over the world. I’ve traveled from one end of the US to the other in the last 2.5 years. The US sucks. The people are unbelievably toxic and ignorant. It’s a filthy place. Des Moines is about the only decent city left. Oddly the small farm towns in Illinois were nice too. Giant agri business has destroyed rural America. The cities are liberal wastelands.
The Excremento Humanos boomers – selfish, toxic, abusive, greedy, hypocritical, narcissistic have turned the US into a fascist, war mongering, police state dystopian hell hole. It’s closed thinkers like you that made it what it us today. Vile and Disgusting.
I’ll let you in on a secret:
Gen Z has a plan!
It’s called the “pillow plan,”
They’re going to suffocate all the boomers in their beds in the nursing homes.
🎯🎯🎯🎯 Bravo Sir
I too have been all over the US in the last 5 years nealry full time and found a few gem locations. But I’m not saying a word to anyone about any of them. Loose lips…
I’m waiting for Gen Z and Alpha to take matters in to their own hands and take to the streets in pure disgust and anger. That’s where I will join them and support them
I will let you in on a non-secret. There is no zoomer plan. There is no boomer plan. There is no millennial plan.
Individually, people make their own plans.
Considering that the “generations” are artificial, arbitrary constructs, your comment could be expanded to ‘There are no generations, only individuals. Individually, people make their own plans.’
Generations are roughly 16-20 years in length, but someone born in the first couple years of a ‘generation’ has no connection to someone born in the last couple years of a generation.
Wow. You’re amazing. Good luck with your move to the Southern Hemisphere.
Your comment could use more exclaimation points!
“…………expect monetary sweeteners for pet projects.”
Do NOT ask me how I know this but those Pet Projects include hidden kick-backs to Congressional Members, money hidden away from prying eyes; TAX FREE.
That is how AOC is suddenly a Millionaire – – from being a Table Waitress. That is how Pelosi lives in the most Expensive ‘hood in SF.
That is how ALL of Congress does business: CRIMINALLY.
Otherwise, I am sure those Grandma and Grandpa Congress members know how to hug their Kids and Grand kids and are SO admired as Successful.
WE know better because a Majority of us Made money the HONEST WAY: by actually WORKING.
Imagine having a job that requires: 1) LIP FLAPPING & (most importantly 2) WINK-WINKING on all hidden deal making – – both of which means NO broken Finger Nails or Callouses.
I’d back down and play nice as well if my weapons were not effective.
Iran had to something but Iran doesn’t have the means to penetrate Israeli defenses but they had no choice. Iran ended up showing the world that Israeli defenses are effectively very good and that Iran’s missiles are overrated.
Now having been attacked, Israel has the choice of if and if yes then has the choice of when, where and how much. Perhaps we will see how bad Iran’s air defenses really are.
Israel’s defenses are not impenetrable. Iron Dome can easily be overwhelmed by sheer numbers of cheap drones and/or some of the hundred thousand rockets held by Hezbollah. Israel can try to drag Iran into a war while having the US on a leash. Iran doesn’t want a war.
It hasn’t happened so far. Maybe it never will. For now it is up to Iran to prove the worth of its arsenal and it doesn’t look impressive. To use an analogy, Iran has been building battleships when Israel has been building aircraft carriers.
Iran will build an atomic bomb in 2 months.
Just like they did in 2003 when Secretary Rice became so upset.
If they could do this in 2 months they would have done this 2 months ago.
Iran’s most likely path to atomic weapons is from Russia or China as part of trade.
STOP this foolish talk! What would Iran do with a nuke bomb or two or three? It probably would be shot down before reaching whatever target it was sent at. Would that cause an explosion then? Where would the fallout spread to? And what would Iran do when they are hit with 20+ nuke bombs in return from Israel AND the USA? And since the world winds blow west to east, what would China do when the fallout clouds drift over its territory? Sheese.
It’s been talk for more than 30 years. In this case, that particular handle has a history of glib, facetious comments so I doubt the foolish talk will cease 🙂
Do you regret that your M.A.D. (cold war-era acronym) mindset isn’t more widely held in today’s world?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/netanyahus-claim-that-iran-is-six-months-from-having-nuclear-bomb-material/2012/09/16/7497078e-002f-11e2-b260-32f4a8db9b7e_blog.html
Can’t anyone perceive sarcasm?
I can (and did successfully)!
Part of the problem with all this is that the claims of (nearly) having fissile material go back to the late 20th century! Update the list as needed, since this one is more than 13 years old:
https://www.salon.com/2010/12/05/israeli_predictions_iranian_nukes/
lol, Lisa’s on a roll!
Actually the Iranians have done surprisingly well developing their military capability, considering sanctions and little to no tech transfer from the west. They certainly punch above their weight.
Israeli is carried and heavier subsidized by the US – it is like a country on food stamps.
There are definite synergies and Iron Dome is one of them. It was seeded and partially funded by the US and now we have with the Israelis a very good way to shoot down missiles, drones and whatever. That is very valuable and that in not the only joint project by far.
what missiles ? Hundreds of drones flying at 100km /hr you ll mean, well maybe two or three common missiles as a show element .. Iran does have uninterceptable ballistic ones though. Are you looking forward to their use ? If you are, you are even more of a neocon sob than I already thought you were ….an old neocon probably with a ‘après moi les mouches’ attitude …
Since you have a direct line to Iran’s leadership, ask them why didn’t they use their “uninterceptable ballistic missiles” yesterday? Imagine the impact they would have had around the world if Iran showed the world that it had undefeatable missiles! Instead they give a pitiful performance.
Iran drones/missiles costs in the tens of thousands.
Israeli air defense missile cost in the hundreds of thousands.
And Iran is getting better at manufacturing more drones cheaper.
This is the multi-million dollar main battle tank vs the shoulder fired anti-tank missile.
The question is can Raytheon in the US keep Israel’s Iron Dome supplied?
Economies of scale, Lisa. It does wonders with lowering costs and Rafael Advanced Defense Systems will have enough orders from everybody to get fantastic economies of scale.
Did you notice that the US Marine Corp has decided against Iron Dome after evaluating two of Rafael’s systems? Even with the interceptors made by Raytheon.
That’s strange because The Marine Corps bought 44 Iron Dome launchers and over 1800 missiles last September.
Cite?
U.S. Marine Corps Purchases 44 Iron Dome Launchers and 1840 Missiles – Global Defense Corp Sept 2023
US Marines rush to field two air defense systems amid global threats (defensenews.com) Jan 17, 2024
Will these do?
Absolutely, yes!
Apparently, after rejecting Iron Dome systems, the Marines have been put in their place as a tier-2 service by the powers above.
lol, Lisa, you gotta take this on the road! Does the show include crayons?
Cite?
If any nation launched an assault like this against the US, we would be on our way to grind their civilization into dust. We’ve done a lot more in response to a lot less.
The minimum response possible is for Israel to degrade Iran’s nuclear weapons program. No nation willing to launch weapons against Israel can be allowed to have nuclear weapons.
Then let israel go alone. This is not our war.
We’re about two steps from a nuclear war if we go down that path.
Once Israel gets desperate enough, their only choice will be to nuclear strikes.
Even though it is Israel’s war, the point is US tax payers are on the hook. US Military industrial complex benefits even US military is involved or not, US giving military aid to Israel meaning using US tax payer money to buy weapons from US defense companies for Israel. Always follow the money.
You obviously don t know why Iran committed this rather symbolical act of retaliation , so I suggest you do some homework before posting Izzy propaganda …..Btw this ‘attack’ costs Iran peanuts while Israel has spent millions of $$ , and don t you forget that any Israel vengeance will be met with Iranian uninterceptable ballistic missiles. If that is what you want you are a fckn sob !
What makes them un-interceptable?
Speed maybe ?
That might be the case with a hyper-sonic missile but probably not a ballistic missile.
Iran sent about 120 ballistic missiles at Israel. ALL were shot down.
And the USA didn’t even have to use the laser weapons and missiles we have in satellites above the area.
those ‘laser weapons’ have never been used , if you ask me …let alone ‘missiles in satellites ‘ lol ! ….The US, despite having wasted TRILLIONS of $$ on their MIC racket ain t got shit, you can t even deal with a nation allegedly using washing machine chips to keep their missiles flying(Russia), you also had to desperately run away from goat herders not so long ago…..yeah you ARE the masters of the fckn universe ….you still think …LOL
It’s fun to watch you lose your cool!
It is.
Looks like you go’ yerself a fren’….at last
“Iran sent about 120 ballistic missiles at Israel. ALL were shot down.”
At $1million a pop.
Iran has 120,000 of them. At least. with another 120,000+ distributed around among “allies” in the region.
Iran can also build 12,000 new ones a month. Heck, even the Houthies can garage-build 120/month.
Within a decade or two; long, long, long before any nonsense of the “AI”,”Self Driving”, “Solar powered”, nor BEV kind is even remotely relevant as anything more than vehicles for forcibly transferring productive people’s value-add to the Fed’s most favored rankest of idiots: even lowly aspiring school shooters will have the means to build them.
All useful technology/manufactured goods evolve that way: They get cheaper and cheaper,easier and easier, and more and more commoditized.
Absolute cutting edge stuff is neat,and has its uses. But it’s the Toyota Corolla (and VW Bug) which matters and determines the course of history. Not Ferraris and Maybachs. Weaponry is ultimately no different.
it’s funny to watch keyboard experts chime in as though they are now experts on munitions. I gotta heat up some more popcorn. crunch, crunch, crunch!
This is not a problem.
The Americans will borrow more money from their children and grandchildren and send it to Israel.
Solution: Don’t have children and grandchildren!
Hopefully there’s an opportunity for brussels to take a breath. maybe get a paper bag. Let us know if everything is ok.
The Houthis say hello.
Does Iran have the right to defend itself?
This was the point that former Israelis Prime Minister Naftali Bennett made on MSNBC this morning. He asked what the USA would do if Cuba, for example, launched 300 drones and missiles at Florida? Israel HAS to respond in what would be a similar fashion, he contends.
Which brings up a related point of interest. Netanyahu seems to be leaning to holding back on any additional response to Iran’s provocation, taking Biden’s counsel.
But there are many on the political left who have been calling for early elections in Israel and for Netanyahu to be replaced. What if his replacement was someone like Bennett, who at least in this case, appears to want to escalate this matter, which might lead to a bigger Middle East war.
An embassy, school, hospital, and all other structures become valid military targets when they are used for military purposes.
Iran was hiding military generals who were guiding military actions against Israel.That makes the embassy a military asset.
As if other embassies are not used for the same purpose?????
I’ll repaint the aircraft carriers “USS Clergy Hospital Academy.”
Now nobody can attack them.
NONSENSE !
Are you willing to accept your same logic for Israeli or US embassies? Why are we so often willing to make exceptions for Israeli actions?
Because Israel funds American election campaigns.
Because Izrahell has infiltrated our government and is siphoning off our childrens wealth into a nation of inbred Khazaria suffering from genetically caused mental illness.
They are crazy. Ruthless – but mentally ill.
Look it up. They’re all 3 rd cousins and their maternal social environment sourced mental illness leaves them crippled with self loathing, borderline personality disorder, psychosis, depression, nebishness, anxiety all of which are immune to improving with therapy. Therapy is a life long process for them.
They never get better?
Trust me I know what I’m talking about.
Mind you I like Jews. I do feel sorry for them. Explain this to a troubled Jew and they are very grateful. Look it up it’s real.
Just to czech for clarity, you don’t trust the American government or the Israeli government, but you do trust the Iranian government and Gaza government?
The pretzel logic being deployed is impressive in its commitment.
Sure. US Generals never visit US embassies. This makes US embassies legit targets. /s
Yes, if US generals were directing actions in a war from an embassy or hiding in an embassy after directing such actions, that embassy is obviously a valid target by the enemy force.
If Bin Laden had retired to an embassy, that embassy would now be rubble.
Any associates of the victims of Obama’s drone assassinations likely (and correctly) consider everywhere he goes to be a valid target.
A place is only protected if both sides respect it’s neutrality. War isn’t a children’s game with a safe “base.”
Exactly! And that applies to “humanitarian” aid and transits. If you are in a war zone, the best course of action is to find a way out of it.
Modern day wars are prolonged with all this humanitarian BS.
Not really.
Everywhere is a target for someone.
doesn’t make much sense ….Why would IRAN launch slow drones and give the Israelis time to react … was this a probing of defenses for later action ?
Israeli defenses cost $100K for Iron Dome and $3 million for Arrow missiles. Iranian drones cost $5K. In the even US ships and aircraft shot down many if not most. Uncle Sugar paid. Future aid to Israel is likely to be structured as a loan putting Israel on a short tether.
US forces intercepted 70+ drones and at least three ballistic missiles, US officials say
I have a secret I want to share. Countries lie in wartime. All of them. If you think you know what’s going on, you’re probably wrong.
Just symbolic. Supporting militants, Hamas, Houthi, Hezbollah, etc is more effective.
Hezbollah in Jordan?
? Unsure what reference you are making.
Jordan, an Arab state, participated with Israel, Britain, US and others to shoot down drones/missiles.
First sentence of Mish’s post is “It’s a multi-front war in Israel as the Houthis in Yemen and Hezbollah in Jordan launch an attack.”
Hezbollah are in Lebanon, not Jordan.
How do we trade this?
Buy things that go up in price that you can sell.
Hard to trade an event that is already over, particularly since it happened on a Saturday, and most markets don’t open till Monday. Plus no one knows what happens next.
Best to be nimble and ready to trade,
whichever direction things move on Monday.
Longer term, conflicts in Ukraine and the middle east have the potential to restrict oil and gas supply in a world that still has a growing demand.
Got oil?
Obviously everyone including Russia want oil to go higher. The only person who wants it lower is Biden. It’s going up.
“ Obviously everyone including Russia want oil to go higher”
Not “everyone”.
Everyone uses oil. Users want lower prices.
Only a few sell it. The sellers are the ones who want high prices.
And those who own shares in oil companies.
Gas is back over $6/gal here in CA. NOT good for Biden.
Pro iranians say Israel attacked first.
Really? How many terrorist attacks have done the ayatollahs in the last 40 years?
For example, the bombing in Argentina againt jews in 1994.
If an embassy is being used as a base of operations for military or militant strikes does it still qualify as a civilian building? That being said I don’t think it was a smart move for the Israelis to take it out. And the Iranian response is measured. Israel should have concentrated in hitting Hamas much harder than they have with the power of the strike on Hamas as a warning to Iran and its proxies to not mess with Israel.
In other words, the final solution for the Palestinians.
No, the final solution for Hamas. There are anti Hamas Palestinians in Gaza as well as in exile. Once Hamas is destroyed the Israelis will provide support for moderates in Gaza to ensure the vacuum is not filled by other fanatics like the Muslim brotherhood or Islamic Jihad.
BTW my main home is in Cairo and the Egyptian government quietly hopes that Hamas is destroyed as Hamas works with fanatics in North Sinai to destabilise Egypt.
And unlike you I’ve been to Gaza, stayed in a refugee camp and have friends from there who are now in exile as Hamas wants them dead.
While I’m sure there are anti-Hamas Palestinians, my understanding is that they (Hamas) are popular… partly because they continue to fight Israel, demand that Palestinians be able to return to their homes. What would be different in your scenario of elminination of Hamas, even if possible? Honest question.
After the recent Israeli events in Gaza, I think everyone here would be joining Hamas if they were living in Gaza.
Having your family members killed, your home destroyed, and your job lost by an invader would motivate anyone.
This is not a good long term situation for Israel.
Being a terrorist is not a good long-term situation!
In fact, it is a decidedly short-term situation. Your future is that you’ll always be on the run, always looking over your shoulder. You’ll have to use burner phones. You have almost 100% chance of being killed or wounded and perhaps crippled for life, where if you are lucky, you can spew your vehemence from a wheelchair. There are no retirement benefits. Should you have a family and be able to stay with them, no one will have a normal life. Oh and the PLO, for one, has stopped paying support money to families for those “martyred” in their fanaticism.
But on the plus side, you are supposed to get 72 virgins when you die. I’ve never understood this though. What is so good about virgins? Possibly that they are clean and don’t have STD’s? But is that a real issue in terrorist heaven?
Carpet bombing Gaza with dumb bombs is terrorism.
oh good, more mythology!
why 72? Why not 69? Or 15. Wouldn’t 15 be enough? What’s up with the 72?
72 is a lucky Arab number?
They didn’t take the actual embassy building out. They hit the consulate building, which isn’t considered the embassy.
By international law, consulates are not considered to be sovereign territory and therefore do not have immunity.
The consulate is in Syria, foreign country. Not in Israel.
And Syria, Iran and Israel are in a state of quasi-war aren’t they?
As far as I can tell Israel is in a state of war with just about everyone. Except the US & UK.
Really? Name the countries.
Embassies have always been used. Nothing new here.
To fill in some background, Iran has serious economic difficulties. The Regime is teetering. It also has much dissension among it various political factions. There are regular internal terrorists attacks against the government in Iran. The last thing Iran can afford now is a full scale war with the West, which is what will happen if it were to seriously attack Israel.
Iranian Rial has been rather stable vs US$ for ages …..wtf you on about …
This is of course what Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu wanted in the first place when he attacked the embassy in Syria.
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I still fail to believe Israel had some security breach for the initial attack last year in Israel on civilians. Netanyahu let that attack happen so he could precisely go down this route to war against Iran/Hamas/Hezbollah. It is all Biden’s fault !
Biden and the US was unaware of this Israeli government plan. It does not appear that many in the Israeli government was also aware of the attack. Seems like it was a Israeli faction that did not want peace with Saudi that was behind the attack.
I suspect that the Iranians used a multitude of very cheap objects and decoys in an attempt to get Israel to use many of its very expensive defenses. This method was used very successfully in Ukraine by the Russians, who destroyed in this way almost completely Ukrainian air defense in 2022 and 2023, and can now use their most effective and modern weapons with almost total success. This is a fault of very expensive weapons, when we do not know exactly what we are using them against, and we simply risk wasting them.
This will disappear in the not distant future when lasers come on board that can be used to cheaply shoot down drones and missiles. Israel has been experimenting with these as part of its Iron Dome.
All major powers have been working on laser weapon technology for years.
Here’s a recent story:
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Drones and especially cruise and ballistic missile do cost money and the cost of shooting them down is becoming less and less. With energy weapons the cost will drop even more to a few dollars a shot.
Just read Israel over 1 billion to shoot down the attack while Iran probably spent 1/10 of that to launch it.
So clearly defense is still orders of magnitude more expensive than cheap drones and missiles.
Perhaps you should roll into your calculations the cost to Iran when Israel retaliates as they will. It will be multiples of what it cost Israel to shoot down Iran’s missiles. You can count on that.
People who once felt charitably towards Israel are becoming fed up with Israel’s continual bellicosity and excessive actions. Not to say Iran gets a pass.
Nah, most rational people see a government defending its territory and citizens. Those that believe in mythology, the tooth fairy and Ozempic believe in the carpet bombing clap. Pallywood is always working on new ideas and sets.
Ah, the Star Wars defense. Reagan promised this in the 80’s for Russian ICBM’s and it never came to fruition.
You need to be able to stay on target a long time to do damage and polished drones will reflect a lot of light. It will be interesting to see if this can actually work with modern computers and other tech. I suspect it won’t.
It’s already been researched. It would have to be close to a perfect mirror for it to work and the cost to make a missile that is a perfect mirror is very very expensive and any imperfection, even a nick would allow a laser to burn through.
Not really.
In theory practice is much the same as theory.
In practice not so much.
It has already been tested. You would need a mirror that reflects 99.99% of the light for it to be effective and that is for a relatively low-power one. Even a bug splat would create enough heat for the laser to burn through and to coat your missile with a mirror like that would cost a lot of money. It is not theory. They tried it and it doesn’t work.
Depends on the power of the beam.
Here’s an Israelis article:
I’ve been waiting for directed energy ever since ?Reagan’s Star Wars initiative. No. Ever since Fusion was just over the horizon.
Electric Cars. They pre-date diesels which pre-date gasoline cars.
The battery problem still has not been clinched.
Just like in WWI when British and German battleships couldn’t be used due to fear of them being sunk by submarines. There was only one naval battle during the entire war.
Just what Netanyahu and Biden want, a nice big war in the Middle East to take attention away from Gaza and to stay in power. Nothing like a war to rally political support
Both Israel and Iran will benefit if the extremists (Hezbollah, Quds, etc) are eliminated — both Tel Aviv and Tehran would rather focus on growing their economies / tax bases. Its politically difficult for Tehran to marginalize Quds commanders, but oh so convenient if Israel does it for them. Getting rid of Quds and Hezbollah ironically benefits Tehran as much as it does Tel Aviv.
Tehran sees the benefits of international trade starting from Chinese Belt and Road initiatives. China is investing in Iran’s oil fields, and trading all sorts of goods are now trading between Iran and Asia. Having extremists kick up a new war every few years is not helpful to Iran.
Tehran wants its own war-mongers marginalized, they just can’t say so out loud.
The civilians (not Hezbollah) in Gaza will benefit from normalized relations between Israel and Saudi / UAE – lots of grants and investment money has been waiting for years. Israel would benefit from a stable Gaza and increased trade, so long as it is products and services, not weapons.
Saudi and UAE officials want Isreali know-how on irrigation and converting desert land into farms.
Western arms dealers (in government and outside), Hezbollah and Quds benefit (profit) from perpetual wars. Everyone else benefits when the extremists get neutralized.
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Qui non proficit? Western arms dealers and war mongers in Iran
Qui bono? Most everyone else.
And its become obvious that Washington DC is no longer able to stop this change.
lol, Israel is not exactly a desert country, is it ? If it manages to irrigate it is merely because there s water available , the Northern part s even got snowy mountains. There are absolutely no secrets to irrigation , look at southern Spain with irrigation introduced by the Moorish more than 1000 years ago …
The Romans introduced large-scale irrigation to southern Spain. The Arabs inherited the system and only slightly expanded it.
….and yet the undeniably GREAT Roman Empire went down the crapper …. question now being, which will be the next ’empire’ following suit ? You know everything, so, any idea ?? My guess is it will be a GREAT yet far too megalomaniac and endebted over the eyeballs one…..Yours ? oh fck thats kind of ambiguous, I mean, your guess, of course ….
My money is on the Russian Empire collapsing. China will hold on but Russia is cooked.
I suspect the Gazans and West Bank Palestinians are not quite ready to forgive and forget Israel’s transgressions, especially as settlements continue to push Palestinians out of their homes and deny them statehood. This will remain a flashpoint, I fear, until this core issue is resolved.
I can’t think of any war in history that was not won with overwhelming force. Perhaps, and I’m just spitballing, but perhaps the gazan government should not have started this war.
I doubt Biden wants a nice big Israel Iran war. It’s a direct risk of $6 gas which would likely reduce his chances in the election to a rounding error. It would be worse if Iran shut off the strait of Hormuz. He does like to keep the money printer going though so it would be good for that.
Biden told Israel to back off in Gaza, and not escalate things versus Iran. Israel told Biden to go piss off.
Biden warned Iran not to attack Israel, so Iran attacked Israel to send a message to Biden (or Blinken or Jake Sullivan or whomever is supposed to be running things when Biden has another of his “senior moments”).
Iran was sending a message to Washington DC, not to Israel.
Israel doesn’t want to attack Iran itself, only the Iranian proxies in Lebanon / Syria / Gaza. Iran doesn’t actually want a war with Israel, which would likely go very badly for Iran — much worse than the Iran-Iraq war.
The only entity that profits from perpetual middle east war is located in Washington DC. Not the USA as a whole, just the corrupt politicians, unelected bureaucrats and their revolving defense industry door.
Both Israel and Iran are showing they understand who actually “wins” (profits) from their fighting.
This particular event would never had happened under a Trump admin. From Jan. 2021 on, Iran’s posture toward the U.S. changed 180 degrees. Biden/Blinken promote appeasement to the rest of the world starting with the Afghan debacle. Is China vs Taiwan next?
Impossible to know that since Trump was not re-elected.
Are you saying that electing a defective plank of wood has resulted in many of the problems we’re now seeing? I would agree.
They were instrumentental in starting WW2. They bribed Churchill and Morganthau, Baruch, and Brandise had FDR’s ear. Charles Lindbergh raised this point but Jewish media pilloried him for it and drummed him out of the public eye.
You are wrong. The Illuminati started WW II. The Harvard scholar, Dan Brown, proved it in a book and a movie.
Israel’s purpose for striking the embassy was to start a war with Iran and drag the brain dead Biden Administration into it. The US seems to be going along. Amazing how easy it is to bribe US politicians with a few million $s to get them to spend many billions of $s for the bribe. How much money has been wasted on Israel? Israel is an amoral, criminal leech.
There is a lot of “defense” profits to be made, and the Ukraine disaster is looking really bad for NATO. Washington DC needs a new war to keep the bribes, kickbacks, and lucrative “consulting” gigs going.
Israel doesn’t benefit from perpetual war, which is why they are sick and tired of the hezbollah attacks, Israel responds half-way … lather, rinse, repeat cycle. The USA government is financially broke beyond all reason, and DC’s ability to support Israel in the future is in serious doubt. Thus, it is in Israel’s interests to wipe out Hezbollah while the US can still provide some cover.
Everyone, all over the world, is starting to realize just how bankrupt the US government really is. And $2 trillion deficits as far as the eye can see? Clueless octogenarians keep saying that “we” will pay you back — as in “we” the octogenarian politicans spend now, and “we” somebody else will pay you depreciated dollars decades from now if you are lucky?
Its in Israel’s interest to get rid of the Hezbollah problem now. Hezbollah saw the writing on the wall with Saudi Arabia and UAE beginning to officially normalize relations with Israel — Hezbollah’s October attack was a act of desperation, and it gave Israel the green light.
Iran understands this, even if they can’t say so out loud. Iran benefits from having the most extreme radical generals (Quds) eliminated, freeing up Iran to focus on expanding trade and economic improvements. Iran gets more powerful by growing its economy, not by feeding US/European arms dealers.
I live in a state with legalized marijuana. Have you been to the dispensaries and loaded up?
Israel needs to take out Iran’s nuclear weapon development sites immediately. Biden is to weak to understand the importance of this.
You’re not alone in thinking along those lines. Anyone who starts with ideas centered around Jewish supremacy will come to exactly the same conclusion.
If Trump gets elected, he may be open to supporting this.
Sickening to see Biden kowtowing to the loathsome Netanyahu. Let Bibi the baby killer fight his own wars from now on.
tell me about zeus and athena next, m’kay?
Shock and awe version II coming right up, However I doubt Biden will land on an aircraft carrier; lest he fall overboard.
With the ease of foreigners invading the United States, which will continue till next January, and strong Palestinian support…….use your imagination.
Ain’t diversity great!
‘This is of course what Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu wanted in the first place when he attacked the embassy in Syria.
Everything fits nicely.’
It does not Mish!!
What israel did was illegal?? Yes it is illegal and what did iran do ?? Fund houthis , hezbollas, hamas and trigger terrorist attacks on israel from all sides killing their people…and Israel took out that top corrupt terrorist enabler iranian army official with precision attack with minimum collateral damages..
So how does it not fit. There is no logic in your response.
Israel is about to learn a valuable lesson. If they provoke another country into attacking them, then the U.S. will send massive military aid without delay. Congress was taking too long to fork over $60 billion. Now it will be twice that and delivered next week.
Iran had no choice they had to remind and they did. Israel is finished. the narrative has changed and people and most of the world agrees with Iran
BBC News has been having some excellent coverage of this brouhaha over the past couple of hours, at least!
This attack is potentially positive for Israel.
Already, there are strong moves occuring in Washington DC to support Israel as everyone should expect.
Iranian attack spurs bipartisan calls for swift U.S. action
Andrew Solender
13 Apr 2024
Members of Congress in both parties called for an immediate U.S. response to a wide-ranging Iranian drone attack against Israel on Saturday.
Why it matters: The attack, launched directly from Iranian soil, represents an unprecedented escalation in what had previously been a proxy war between the two nations, Axios’ Barak Ravid reported.
• A Biden administration spokesperson said the U.S. “will stand with the people of Israel and support their defense against these threats from Iran.”
• House Majority Leader Steve Scalise (R-La.) said the House’s schedule for next week will be changed to include votes on “legislation that supports our ally Israel and holds Iran and its terrorist proxies accountable.”
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https://www.axios.com/2024/04/13/iran-israel-attack-bipartisan-congress-response
Iran directly attacking Israel was a foolish strategic move. This is the first time that Iran has made such a move and it opens up the possibility of a major response from Israel. Iran should have restricted its response to Israelis assets outside of Israel itself.
Iran must be making this response because of many conflicting political forces that were pushing for a response internally. The Iranian regime is teetering on the edge of being overthrown.
Why? What Iran did was the equivalent of an old time ‘challenging someone to a duel’ and then after walking off 10 paces firing into the air instead of at the opponent.
t was meant to satisfy honor, it was not a serious military response because attacks that take hours to arrive are laughable.
Reread my 2nd paragraph.
50 drones and missiles could be construed as “shooting in the air” but 350 does not. The fact that the attack failed does not mean it wasn’t a serious attack meant to do serious harm.
Iran’s attack successfully destroyed approximately 1.2 billion dollars of Israeli defense capability at a cost of considerably less than 100 million.
Not including expenditures by the US and UK.
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You assume for some reason that Israel will not retaliate and cause much more damage to Iran. Israel has just shown it can protect is space while I doubt that Iran can protect theirs. The exchange will be in Israel’s favor.
Doug, you are assuming that Iran won’t retaliate against Israel for retaliating against Iran. Ad infinitum.
See also: The Netanyahu regime is teetering on the edge of being voted out.
See my post here:
https://mishtalk.com/economics/iran-attacks-israel-with-drones-supposedly-its-over-already-what-happened/#comment-248137
But what everyone making this statement is missing is that can you be sure that Israel does not want a full war with Iran?
There is one sure way to put a damper, if not a full stop, to attacks from Iran’s proxies, the arms such as Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas, etc. and that is to kill the head of the octopus, which is Iran.
Israel is rapidly moving toward negative GNP. This one missile attack cost Israel $6 billion worth of Arrow missiles.
Stop being stupid. Israelis GDP was $500 billion. Even if your cost number is correct, it is a miniscule number. And the USA will replace the stock at a big discount or for free.
…and the US has merely got to print some $$ to make up for the real cost ….that s ok then , life in lalaland is great !
Exactly.
American children will provide whatever is needed and pay for it when they grow up and get jobs.
jojo, don’t taunt those who are challenged in this way.
….and what to do about the head of the Israelian octopus , snake rather , being the US of A and its criminal neocon warmongers who managed to MESS up the entire region in just a couple of decades ….
Nothing to see here folks move along. This was simply to satisfy the hardliners in Iran. Back to the pain train.
To a degree but remember that Biden said to Iran “Don’t!”.
But Iran DID.
What will Biden’s response be as the Superpower in the region? Will Biden wimp out as usual?
Sounds like Biden has already told Israel not to do anything further since this attack simply satisfied Iranian honor and did essentially nothing to Israel.
So I expect the US to do nothing further. The question is whether Israel will also be satisfied or seek to ramp things up further.
Yes and by Biden telling Israel to back off, he provided an out for Netanyahu with his right-wingers who want to attack Iran. He can reply that his hands are tied by Biden and they can’t risk losing more US support by ignoring his warning. Meanwhile, Netanyahu gets some of his supporters that were wavering back in his fold, solidifying his political position for a while longer..
Biden does not want a major war involving the USA breaking out during his reelection run.
The machinations of politics can be fascinating.
Israel will blow something up to restore their honor.
Biden can do no right really. If he does one thing, the haters say the opposite and vice versa. Wimp out as usual ? The same people who call him a wimp were calling for the US not to get involved anymore in the middle east or Ukraine.
To be fair, Jarak O’Briden probably doesn’t remember saying that.
Boycott all German and British products.
Now, inflation is going to soar. Gold, Commodity, and House Prices are going to go vertical.
A dilemma for wise policy in the USA.
Do we help protect Israel from this or other Iranian attacks, keeping the temperature down?
or
Do we let Israel getting the whupping “that they deserve”?
It is not our fight. Our soft hearts might make it our clean-up, however it turns out.
“… the USA is capable of wise policy?” // Certainly not since the end of WWII, and the need for the US to enter WWII was que$tionable. “All governments are run by liars and nothing they say should be believed” (I. F. “Izzy” Stone, 1907-1989). 🔦✝️
My pronouns aren’t ‘we’, ‘our’, ‘us’.
Maybe now Jews will stop ethnic cleansing Palestine.