Is Low inflation in Japan and China a Sign of Strength or Weakness?

Inflation data via St. Louis Fed, chart by Mish, US recessions in light blue

Latest Inflation Numbers

  • US: 9.06% in June
  • China: 2.10% in May
  • Japan: 2.50% in April
  • Eurozone: 8.64% in June

Reflections on Managing Inflation

Pettis Tweet Thread 

  1. This, to me, is intellectual laziness: “China and Japan have managed inflation well, despite being exposed to big surges in energy and food costs. Both exercised reasonable control over their money supply and credit.”
  2. There is an implicit assumption here that the only problems that matter are US and European problems. Because rising inflation is a problem in the US and Europe, the fact that it is low in Japan and China must be a good thing and a sign of policy success.
  3. This also assumes that Japanese and Chinese monetary policy works the same way as in US and Europe, and that all four economies suffer from the same set of imbalances.
  4. This simply isn’t true, and suggests an almost incredible lack of nuance. Japan and China have the reverse problems that the US and Europe have. They both suffer from very weak domestic demand driven by extraordinarily low consumption shares of GDP.
  5. Japan has been trying unsuccessfully to reverse this for 30 years, and China for 15 years. The fact that neither has been able to do so to any meaningful extent is not a sign of policy success but rather of policy failure.
  6. It is also why they don’t suffer from the same inflation problems that the US and Europe do. With consumption so weak, and most policy focusing on the supply side rather than the demand side it’s not surprising that CPI inflation is low, and likely to remain low.
  7. The article argues that Japan and China have kept inflation at bay because of their tight control over monetary and credit expansion, but this only suggests that no one bothered actually to look at the monetary and credit data, especially in China.
  8. It makes as little sense to congratulate the BoJ and the PBoC for having “solved” their US and European monetary problems as it does to congratulate the Fed and the ECB for having solved their Chinese and Japanese problems. These are not the relevant issues.
  9. Unfortunately even many Chinese economists have the same US/Euro-centric orientation. They see low inflation in China as a sign of monetary and fiscal policy success rather than a sign of continued weakness in domestic demand.

What About Germany? 

Arguably the best management (using the term both loosely and crudely) goes to Germany. 

Until now, Germany did not have the swings to the high side like China and the US, or to the low side like Japan.

Like China and Japan, and unlike the US and China, Germany is an export dependent economy by design.

One Size Fits Germany Until Now

One of the flaws of the Eurozone is there is no single interest rate that makes any sense overall given massive differences in productivity, work rules, pension plans, and economic benefits.  

Until recently, Germany benefitted from an ECB interest rate policy that I have described as “one size fits Germany”. 

The issue now Europe is at the mercy of its own inane energy policies with Germany at the the mercy of Russia and global sanctions on Russia. 

Has China Managed Anything Well?

China’s growth was the envy of the world for four decades. 

However, the last decade was a mirage bubble of malinvestment in property and infrastructure. 

And for the last decade I have mocked those promoting the ridiculous idea that the yuan (renminbi) would replace the US dollar as the world’s reserve currency. 

For at least a decade, China has managed nothing well, especially its property bubble and Covid. And now it’s payback time. China’s property bubble has popped and imaginary wealth has evaporated.

This is very bad for domestic consumption which makes China all the more dependent on export mercantilism which it desperately needs to shrink. 

Export Mercantilism 

All three export juggernauts, China, Japan, and Germany are at serious risk of imploding. 

Germany has additional problems of high inflation, dependence on Russian energy, senseless EU policies, senseless ECB policies, and rapidly rising internal Eurozone strife.

How Do We Measure Inflation?

Before praising any country we need to take a serious look at how inflation is measured. 

Let me suggest that every measure is fatally flawed. 

These central bank two percent targets are a huge source of the problem. In the US, the Fed has blown three consecutive bubbles by not counting asset bubbles, especially housing as part of inflation. 

The above chart shows the absurdity of it all. China is just as bad, if not worse, and as an aside, so are Canada and Australia. 

China property bubble just burst. If one factored that into Chinese inflation, it would likely be negative right now, not 2.1 percent.

No Praise Anywhere!

Given there is not a central bank on the planet that has yet predicted a recession in advance nor shown any clues about letting asset bubbles brew, there should be no praise anywhere. 

There is a lot here for central banks to think about. But rest assured they won’t (at least about the right things).

The Fed, ECB, and Bank of Japan all still have ridiculous 2.0 percent inflation targets without any clue as to how to measure inflation. 

As for trying to reverse dependence on exports, China and Japan have failed for decades, and Germany does not want to change at all.

Root of the Crisis

Few even understand the root of the crisis. Problems started when Nixon closed the gold window on August 15, 1971. For discussion, please see Nixon Shock, the Reserve Currency Curse, and a Pending Currency Crisis

In 1971 President Nixon appointed the then Democrat John Connally as Treasury Secretary. That’s when things started rolling.

Our Currency But Your Problem

Shortly after taking the Treasury post, Connally famously told a group of European finance ministers worried about the export of American inflation that the dollar “is our currency, but your problem.”

On August 15, 1971 Nixon directed Connally to suspend, with certain exceptions, the convertibility of the dollar into gold or other reserve assets, ordering the gold window to be closed such that foreign governments could no longer exchange their dollars for gold. He also issued Executive Order 11615, imposing a 90-day freeze on wages and prices in order to counter inflation. This was the first time the U.S. government had enacted wage and price controls since World War II.

Reserve Currency Irony

The move was not temporary and it let governments inflate at will.

Importantly, the reserve currency became as much of a curse as a benefit. 

The reserve currency irony is that despite protestations of US advantage, no country wants the alleged advantages the US purportedly receives.

Global Consumers of Last Resort

The US is stuck with the reserve currency because we have the largest, most open capital markets in the world, the world’s largest bond market, and a far better business climate than the EU, China, or Japan.

To ensure the US remains the curse holder, the EU and Japan still have negative or zero rates, China does not float the Yuan but props up corrupt SOEs, and Germany punishes the rest of the EU.

Everyone wants to export to the US, and they do.

Praise Where? For Nixon? Central Banks?

The problem cannot be fixed as long as governments can inflate currency at will. A gold standard was the last mechanism that forced governments to stay in line. 

Please don’t express your ignorance by saying Bitcoin fixes this because it won’t. The central banks that matter will never adopt it. Actions in El Salvador and Africa are meaningless globally.

And all this discussion regarding a new BRIC axis of Brazil, Russia, India, and China is also ridiculous. 

One does not get global reserve status by declaring intent. Conditions have to be met, and China does not come close. 

The Yuan Will Not Replace the US Dollar, Nor Will It Be Backed by Commodities

Please note, The Yuan Will Not Replace the US Dollar, Nor Will It Be Backed by Commodities

Also note China Seeks Ways to Avoid US Sanctions But a Deadly Embrace Complicates Matters

Unstable Setup 

It’s a complicated mess globally, for literally the entire world.

The Eurozone has more stress than ever before, China’s property bubble is imploding, global supply chains are a mess, and Biden seeks hugely inflationary clean energy policies.

On top of it all, there’s a potential war between the US and China over Taiwan.

Good luck with that.

I do not know when this explodes into a major currency crisis, but it will. Gold, not Bitcoin will be the beneficiary.

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KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Japan and China are suffering from the same problem. Real estate prices got too expensive. People have to spend most of their money on mortgage payments and have little left over to buy other things. Housing bubbles produce problems that last decades.
lamlawindy
lamlawindy
1 year ago
“[Japan and China] both suffer from very weak domestic demand driven by extraordinarily low consumption shares of GDP.”
Mish, you’re implying that — as a whole — the Chinese & Japanese tendency to underconsume is somehow bad. China’s savings rate is about 40-45%. Japan’s is about 25-30%. Our US rate is 5.5%. If I was a Japanese or Chinese policymaker, I’d be much more sanguine about my people saving their money instead of buying worthless imported or domestically produced crap.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
The reserve currency is like the American presidency.
No one with integrity and intellectual competency wants it.
ronan
ronan
1 year ago
Dubronik
Dubronik
1 year ago
Just modified a couple of things….We see the result every day–pickup trucks requiring a Forklift to look under the hood, McMansions with cross-gendered kids and $1,200 cellphones, social media that glorifies Instagram/Facebook ‘influencers’…
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  Dubronik
Dogs and cats living together…
Taunton
Taunton
1 year ago

The problem is that economists view currencies as being fundamentally equal/symmetrical — there isn’t any difference in their mind between a euro, a yen, a yuan, a pound sterling, or a US dollar. Reality is, though, that the world has a 3 or 4 tiered currency system, and each currency plays their part in the global system, and even that’s oversimplifying thing. The king is the USD, it functions like how gold did at the end of the 1800s. It’s the reserve, it’s the basis of measurement for any economic value. Every other currency is valued in relation to USD, and almost all international transactions are done in terms of USD. Below USD are the “safe currencies” that can be used as stores of value, along with the bonds that go with them: euros, yen, and pounds. Each of those three have different functions; the euro is used as a front door to safe northern european markets, and as a cover for more speculative investments in the southern periphery. The yen is used as a backdoor into China — USD investors who want to invest in China cannot do it directly; japanese banks act as the intermediary between the two parties. There is a clear-as-day correlation between UST’s in japanese custody and Chinese monetary expansion, as well as UST’s on custody for China in Belgium. Below those currencies are the “speculative” local currencies. In those countries, the currencies are often viewed as so unsafe that loans are frequently denominated in dollars, not their local currencies. Currencies like the brazilian real, the chinese yuan, the indian rupee, the indonesian rupiah, and the argentinian peso fall into this category. These currencies are far more susceptible to inflation than the higher tier currencies, as large portions of their economy are priced in USD, and swings in USD demand can oftentimes produce mind-popping inflation when it goes the wrong, as well as (seemingly contradictorily) truly devastating waves of defaults and bankruptcies. This condition, which is both inflationary and deflationary at the same time, arises because a huge rise in USD exchange value produces defaults in any borrowers of USD in that country, as well as causing the home currency to lose value relative to USD, causing inflation in the country. With all this in mind, it’s obvious why China and Japan have low inflation and US and Europe have high inflation: massive supply crunches and spikes in fuel prices have collapsed US and Europe demand; we are China’s top customer, and Japan is their financier. With less customers and thus less money coming in, they experience deflation, and since the money train to the far east has stopped, inflation happens here. This is also related to how Germany’s trade surplus has evaporated

8dots
8dots
1 year ago
Those who harness themselves to the Fed are isolated from the world. Economists are subjected to black swans. People who are trying to inform
them are laughed at and rejected. Groupthinks tend to shoot the messenger. The Fed response to exogenous causes. The Fed action is a second derivative. Ukraine drain ordnance from US. A second front might cause an economic collapse. The job report will never tell u how the game is played.
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
1 year ago
‘flation is only good or bad depending on the financial strength of the entity leading up to a sudden change.
hmk
hmk
1 year ago
Any CCP released statistics are always suspect. They lie about everything. I find it hard to believe that China is not experiencing inflation.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
1 year ago
Reply to  hmk
You mean to say that BLS is full of honest people who just happen to produce results that, let’s just say, aren’t born out by reality, while the CCP stacks its statistics bureau with cheaters who deliberately produce results, that are not born out by reality. Got it.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Either way reality is vastly overrated.
Bhakta
Bhakta
1 year ago
Mish, you are right. It all goes back to Nixon removing the gold backing, enabling the wild creation of infinite “money” with nothing behind it. Gold is real and not dependent upon the Internet. I am in Thailand which is full of people of Chinese ancestry. I watch the gold shops. When gold prices drop the lines of buyers stretch around the block. When gold gets high, the same people stand in line to sell. They believe in gold no doubt. So do the Indians. I have spent time in India every year since 1974. Banks there give good interest on gold deposits. Take your gold into the bank and they pay you quarterly.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  Bhakta
If those banks are paying interest on your gold deposits then they are loaning out your gold to others to get that interest. What happens if they loan out your gold to people who can’t pay it back? You won’t get back your gold. That bank is then no different from any bank that uses currency.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
1 year ago
Country comparisons are meaningless.
Germans and related cultures build space age houses, buy quality stuff that lasts a life time, etc.
What are the Japanese food prices pond-for-pound compared to USA?
The US/Canada buy cheap Chinese junk, and throwaway as much.
Probably Canada alone builds as many (low quality) houses as the entire EU.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Americans can’t afford Japanese beef.
Well, OK the rich Americans can.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Time for a trip down memory lane…
8dots
8dots
1 year ago
LBJ blood trail shocked the world. Nixon gold had to land in De Gaulle. // Only a small part of Chinese RE collapsed. The problem is that land sales collapsed, causing cash flow problems. Dehydration cause banking problem. // China hedged Russian oil years ago. China is buying Russian oil for half prices after Putin invaded Ukraine dragging down Brent prices. Shutting down sequel cut demand. The comatose Chinese consumers might lost their zest. Blut und Eisen for national consumption.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  8dots
Where do you get your mushrooms? Asking for a friend.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
This is along the lines of hypothesis as opposed to assertion.

Look at the U.S. in particular. Our high consumption begins with housing and then extends to personal transportation, health care, and education. Start with housing. The average American house is close to twice the size it was 50 years ago (from 1,600 sft to 2,600 sft — in 1950, our average new house was 1,000 sft), while families have shrunk. Compared to Japan (980 sft) and China (650 sft), could their lack of consumption be related to them not having middle classes with houses big enough to put things inside? This might be too simple and stupid, but is it?

Personal transportation is similar. Anyone who’s been to Japan knows how space-constrained they are, not just in their rabbit-hutch houses but in their automobiles. There simply isn’t the space. Japan’s land use policy reduces the size of dwellings, and both China and Japan lack the infrastructure to support U.S.-style personal transit. Much smaller houses, lower consumption of the stuff that people put into them.

Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
Sociocultural factors are clearly changing, impacting people’s self images and lifestyles. We see the result every day–pickup trucks requiring a stepladder to look under the hood, McMansions with cross-gendered kids and $500 cellphones, social media that glorifies Instagram/Facebook ‘influencers’… Mass media driving public opinion like never before. Closed minds prevail. Consume, consume. More is better. Detest those with less.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
“Closed minds prevail.”
Excellent point.
Couldn’t agree more!
Many of the people in this comment section are perfect examples.
Which is why I am responding less and less. I don’t like wasting too much time with those people.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
As has been said:
Buying stuff they don’t need, with money they don’t have, to impress people they don’t know.
Siliconguy
Siliconguy
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
Example, my house, built in 1957, 1400 sq ft, four bedrooms, one bath. And it’s a ranch style, no gabled entrances, no nooks, it is a simple rectangle from above.
Bhakta
Bhakta
1 year ago
Reply to  Siliconguy
The house in which I grew up in La Canada, California cost my Dad less than $10,000. Today Zillow says it is worth $3 million. Is that insane or what? All due to infinite creation of “money for nothing”.. And it cannot end, because the moment they cease adding more money, the entire Ponzi scheme ends instantly.
Scooot
Scooot
1 year ago
“A gold standard was the last mechanism that forced governments to stay in line.”
That’s why I doubt they’ll ever return to it. (Even if that was the answer).
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Okay. No praise for Central Banks anywhere. No praise for Europe and the US with high inflation. No praise for China and Japan for low inflation.
No praise the the Bank of England for predicting a recession.
No praise for anyone or anything except:
Praise for a gold standard.
Well. Sorry. But I am not investing in gold. Its a dead asset.
I prefer to invest in energy, and oil and gas companies in particular. Something that the world needs and is critical to economic growth.
And again; a request for some analysis on GDI please.
Much appreciated!
Bhakta
Bhakta
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
I am invested in Gold, and I am invested heavily in energy and other essential resources. I love the oil trusts that just receive income and distribute it monthly. In the last year my shares in these are up over 100% and my income is over 20% on the dividends I have received. ‘
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  Bhakta
Thanks for the comment. I do appreciate people here who discuss their investments.
And of course, it is okay to disagree on those investments. That is what makes a market.
Oil and gas stocks have been a great investment for the last two years. Gold, not so much.
Mish
Mish
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Don’t know what to say about GDI other than its message and GDP diverge.
If you think we are not in recession then believe in GDI.
Right now, the economy is screwed no matter what. I think we are in recession. But I also think it matters little if we aren’t. If the latter, the Fed will keep hiking until we are.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
GDI is simply one more measure of economic growth. It currently shows the economy is stronger than what GDP estimates show.
I was wondering if you could pay this measure more attention when you discuss economic growth?
I do not doubt that we could already be in a recession or heading into one. I agree with your prediction that if a recession occurs it will be shallow with few job losses. GDI is showing that incomes remain relatively strong, which would agree with your scenario.
JRM
JRM
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Less than 1% of the worlds population believe like you that Gold is a dead asset!!!
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  JRM
Sources please.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Maybe the consumption weakness comes from Chinese and Japanese people deciding that they have all they need.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Insightful. The differences between East and West are profound, and too many to list here. Maybe the West needs a new paradigm that is not dependent on endless growth.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Oh please. You’re starting to sound like my goofy cousin who decided to become a Buddhist. LOL
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
A long time ago, I realized God was a mathematician.
Bhakta
Bhakta
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Endless growth using stupid things made of plastic. The USA in the 1950s and 1960s was the manufacturing center of the planet and was known for the best quality. Now, I know of nothing that is really made in the USA!

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