Is the Fed in Control of Anything? If So, What? At What Cost?

Yield Curve Spreads via New York Fed and Mish Calculations

The Fed Put

The Greenspan Put

Danielle asked an interesting question, especially in light of the “Greenspan Put“. 

Greenspan put was the moniker given to the policies implemented by Alan Greenspan during his tenure as Federal Reserve (Fed) Chair. The Greenspan-led Fed was extremely proactive in halting excessive stock market declines, acting as a form of insurance against losses, similar to a regular put option.

Market participants had widespread belief that former Fed Chairman would protect the market. 

That belief held until the DotCom crash.

If former Fed Chair Ben Bernanke could stop the housing bubble from collapsing, then he surely would have. 

If anything, this “put” belief reinforces collapses. 

If market participants believe the put is at the 3700 level, then I can assure you there will be massive short covering at or near that level. 

Q: Then what? 
A: When beliefs crash and the shorts have already covered, the bottom falls out. 

There is no put and it is not a matter of “let”. The Fed can attempt to influence, but it is not in control.

Control What?

The Fed can control short term interest rates. Judging from Japan, it can control the entire yield curve.

But to do so, the Fed would have to announce, then do, what the Bank of Japan (BOJ) has been doing for a decade.

BOJ Makes Unlimited Bond Purchases to Limit Rates

Please note this recent announcement: BOJ Makes Unlimited Bond Purchases to Limit Rates.

BOJ officials say they will buy an unlimited amount of government bonds at a fixed rate. It is the bank’s first such move in about three years and seven months.

A sell-off in Japanese government bonds has recently been intensifying. It pushed yields on the benchmark 10-year bond up to 0.23 percent on Thursday, which is the highest level in about six years and one month and close to the cap the BOJ has set.

Lovely. The Fed could conceivably do the same. 

At What Cost?

You have “control” using the word loosely, of at most one thing at a time. 

The Fed can lock rates by buying unlimited bonds, but it cannot lock inflation at that price.

Can the Fed Control Inflation?

No, if it could, then why did the Fed try to get 2% inflation for a decade and fail spectacularly? 

Now the Fed has the opposite problem. The Fed believed for a year that inflation was transitory, so much so that it ridiculously kept its finger on the QE throttle?

Despite the fact that the Fed clearly lost control of inflation, there is a question as to whether the Fed will “let” the stock market fall. 

The Fed Can Try

The Fed can try, but a little man once told me there is no try. 

The Fed cannot “do” because it is not in control. 

What About Housing?

Any illusions of control must also factor in housing and housing bubbles. 

What will 4% rates do. 5%? Yet, the Fed wants to unwind its balance sheet, especially mortgage backed securities. 

How does that magic work? 

In practice, it’s a lot easier to add liquidity than take it away. 

What About Credibility 

The recent statements by  St. Louis Fed President James Bullard are amusing.

I commented on that in James Bullard Says Fed Credibility Is On the Line, Repeats Faster Rate Hike Message

Bullard Statements

  1. We have the hot CPI report. Not so much that report alone, but the last four reports taken in tandem have indicated inflation is broadening and possibly accelerating.
  2. I am just one person but I would like to see 100 basis points on the policy rate by July 1.
  3. “I do think we need to front-load more of our planned removal of accommodation than we would have previously. We’ve been surprised to the upside on inflation.
  4. This is a lot of inflation in the US economy. 7.5% on the headline CPI. These are numbers Alan Greenspan never saw and haven’t occurred in 40 years.
  5. Our credibility is on the line and we do have to react to data.
  6. I think the inflation we are seeing is very bad for low and moderate-income households. Real wages are declining. People are unhappy. Consumer confidence is declining. This is not a good situation.

Look at points 1 and 5. Inflation was running hot for 5 months and not once did Bullard dissent. 

Now he comes with guns blazing attempting to maintain credibility when there is no credibility to maintain, not even his. 

Highest Inflation in 40 Years!

The Fed claims it will be data dependent while ignoring the highest inflation in 40 years and that does not even count housing prices, NFTs, speculation in cryptocurrencies, or any other numerous (and obvious) examples of inflation.

Data dependent claims are an obvious lie.

Fed Uncertainty Principle 

Let’s review my Fed Uncertainty Principle.

Basic Principle

The fed, by its very existence, has completely distorted the market via self-reinforcing observer/participant feedback loops. Thus, it is fatally flawed logic to suggest the Fed is simply following the market, therefore the market is to blame for the Fed’s actions. There would not be a Fed in a free market, and by implication, there would not be observer/participant feedback loops either.

Corollary Number One

The Fed has no idea where interest rates should be. Only a free market does. The Fed will be disingenuous about what it knows (nothing of use) and doesn’t know (much more than it wants to admit), particularly in times of economic stress.

Corollary Number Two

The government/quasi-government body most responsible for creating this mess (the Fed), will attempt a big power grab, purportedly to fix whatever problems it creates. The bigger the mess it creates, the more power it will attempt to grab. Over time this leads to dangerously concentrated power into the hands of those who have already proven they do not know what they are doing.

Corollary Number Three

Don’t expect the Fed to learn from past mistakes. Instead, expect the Fed to repeat them with bigger and bigger doses of exactly what created the initial problem.

Corollary Number Four

The Fed simply does not care whether its actions are illegal or not. The Fed is operating under the principle that it’s easier to get forgiveness than permission. And forgiveness is just another means to the desired power grab it is seeking.

Appearance of Control

At times the Fed appears to be in control. But it’s a mirage. The mirage of control happens when the Fed’s interest and the markets are aligned. 

The Fed “tried” to produce inflation, and actually did. But the inflation was in financial asset bubbles not where the Fed wanted inflation (routine consumer prices). 

The market was very pleased with this “trying”. 

But liquidity is another thing the Fed cannot control. The Fed can increase or remove liquidity by interest rate policy, QE and QT but it has no control at all over where liquidity flows or drains.

Fed liquidity produced the third major bubble in just over 20 years.

Now the market is unhappy that the Fed trying (but not very hard) to contain inflation. However, the Fed cannot try too hard or the stock market will collapse. 

The Fed could possibly contain inflation by hiking the Fed Funds rate to 2% tomorrow. But the stock market would crash and so would the global economy along with demand for nearly everything.

Delusional Fed President Hopes to Steepen the Yield Curve Via QT and Rate Hikes

The lead chart is from Delusional Fed President Hopes to Steepen the Yield Curve Via QT and Rate Hikes

The yield curve is flattening fast. And the Fed wants to steepen it. If the Fed could control this flattening, then why doesn’t it?

So, is the Fed really in “control” of anything, or is the whole damn thing an illusion? 

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Roadrunner12
Roadrunner12
2 years ago
 ” What many don’t realize is that production will likely not decrease much, if any.”
” Pump away.”
“I remember summer of 2008 quite well.  IIRC, oil hit $144 barrel and lot of chatter of peak oil and other nonsense on why it wouldn’t go down.”
The only shale play left in the US to show growth is the Permean basin and that will peak roughly in 2 years. All the other plays are mature and in decline. You can generalize that all companies outside the Permean basin will say they are going to limit growth (reality, they have no choice, they are mature or in decline) and those in the Permean basin raising production.
“Whether it’s US$150 oil, US$200 oil, or US$100 oil, we’re not going to change our growth plans.” — Pioneer CEO Scott Sheffield”
And as stated, those in the Permean region will show growth.
“In a further sign that the Permian is thriving as oil prices climb higher, the shale play hosts the most drilling rigs nationally at the moment.”

Roadrunner12
Roadrunner12
2 years ago
Reply to  Roadrunner12
The author of this article never priced in $90 oil but the chart regarding tight oil will play out in that fashion.
honestcreditguy
honestcreditguy
2 years ago
405 on SPY seems doable and if so, they are going to gun for stops below it and wash it out at 375 give or take….the admin via russia bs seems to be blaming market fall on war to turn necks away from the fed moves coming up
kiers
kiers
2 years ago
That first “Wall” chart is beautiful. Scary.  FFR Rates in 2022 still at zero and 1, 2, and 5 are converging already!  “the wall”. And the science on Omicron “being the end” isn’t final, see Hong Kong! 
Never in history from 1998, has “the bottom of a Fed FFR lowering cycle ended in FLAT YIELD CURVES at 1,2, and 5yrs ! ( barring that small 1999 blip lowering). The lowering culminating in the first summer of Covid lowered into a flat yield curve!  
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
2 years ago
the fed is in control by her owners.   she is a privately owned cartel with monopoly on coining money for an empire.      all the rest of it is eyewash from this reality since she was established.    
PreCambrian
PreCambrian
2 years ago
So what is the Fed to do? Hike rates, don’t hike rates, lower rates? Or there is no good solution. I agree that sometimes you are in a position where there are no good options. Better to keep out of trouble than to try to get out of trouble.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
2 years ago
Reply to  PreCambrian
You tighten the growth of the money stock while driving the banks out of the savings business.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
I think you could make the case that Bullard’s jawboning  has done more to take the wind out of tech stocks than three 25bps raises. This policy of telegraphing every move well in advance in order to prevent volatility is starting to work in reverse. So far the Fed has NOT raised any rates, and the balance sheet is still growing, and today the DOW is down another 650 points. If they want to reduce inflation by crashing markets and causing a recession, it seems to be working so far.
Scooot
Scooot
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
The Dow is still more than 4000 points higher than where it was at the beginning of the pandemic. 🙂 
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  Scooot
The first 50 bps raise should erase those stubborn gains. lol.
I mean, that’s really the only path to killing inflation. Fed policy only affects demand, not supply. You can certainly drive consumption down by destroying the notional wealth of the upper middle class. But it’s surgery with an axe instead of a scalpel.
Scooot
Scooot
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Zoltan Poszar has an interesting solution. 🙂 
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  Scooot
One thing that’s worth mentioning for non-passive investors.  The indexes are up, but they’re primarily being supported by a handful of bellwether blue chips. An awful lot of stocks are down 40-50% off their pre-pandemic highs. Equities got hollowed out.
I saw the Zoltan piece.  I think oil WILL go much higher….not right away, we ran up too far too fast already. But if the Fed does crash the market 20-50%, when it bottoms, commodities in general are going to be the place to be, and by the end of this year or early 2023, they’ll be running. 
Scooot
Scooot
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Yes I’d read about the bellwether stocks etc, the indexes are a bit of a mirage. 
Commodities being the place to be sounds inflationary. 
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  Scooot
Commodities are in such short supply everywhere it’s hard to see how they won’t be bid much higher. Inflationary? Yes. What the Fed is doing now is not apt to quell inflation…..but if they do what it would really take….we might have a true deflationary depression that could last a few years and crash equities and housing and destroy an awful lot of wealth. Some people I respect are actually calling that now……as early as 2024.
Scooot
Scooot
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T

I agree the Fed isn’t doing or likely to do enough to quell general inflation. They’re hoping a slowing economy will do it for them. I tend to think we’ll get deflation in financial assets and inflation in other goods and services, so stagflation from a CPI viewpoint. 

TCW
TCW
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
I’ve read that the government can not afford the interest payment on rates high enough to quell inflation.  If that’s the case, all the talk about deflation sounds unlikely.  They’ll probably find a new way to calculate the cpi.  Of course, the government could raise taxes or cut spending on other things to pay the higher interest but politicians would have a hard time getting re-elected.  Seems to me inflation will continue except for maybe in luxury items.
kiers
kiers
2 years ago
Reply to  Scooot
makes sense, no?  there is the stock level (people talking of where the strike price of the put is) and there’s the QE notion of Markets only go up.  Perhaps disabusing the latter notion is all the doctor ordered?
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
2 years ago
Reply to  Scooot
Poszar doesn’t know a bank from a nonbank. 
FooFooFed
FooFooFed
2 years ago
Reply to  Scooot
Market has no value at this level. Fed isn’t crashing this market, the market is crashing itself. We are just picking up were we left off in 2019. There are many problems. Ones that the fed can’t fix. 
JeffD
JeffD
2 years ago
Don’t worry. The Fed can fix inflation in 15 minutes according to Bernanke. Funny that a year has passed and inflation has kept increasing daily.
Christoball
Christoball
2 years ago
I noticed the last weeks that oil has been moving inversely to stocks. When one goes up the other goes down, and visa versa. Same thing was true for metals. This has changed and now oil is moving in tandem with stocks and only Gold and Silver are moving inversely to stocks. Some have high hopes in oil, but a slowing economy is going to have less demand for oil and energy. Oil seemed to be a place to park money for those in doubt about the other falling sectors. Perhaps now Gold is the only Financial Redoubt left.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
Reply to  Christoball
“Oil seemed to be a place to park money for those in doubt about the other falling sectors.”
Outside of geo political shenanigans (blowing up a major oil field / pipeline) oil will suffer the same fate as other assets.  As demand slows storage will become a premium … as tanks fill prices will have to drop to move it.  What many don’t realize is that production will likely not decrease much, if any.  Enter game theory (producer country desperate for $$s as global economy slows … let OTHER country cut supply).  Couple that with oil and gas leases.  Most oil is drilled on leased land.  The leases pay royalty on production and contracts only allow shut down for maintenance … or risk termination.  Pump away.
Roadrunner12
Roadrunner12
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
 ” What many don’t realize is that production will likely not decrease much, if any.”
We can agree to disagree but production will decrease and the country showing the largest decrease will be the US. The shale revolution will be shortlived.  A caveat to that is I do expect a recession to temper demand in the short term so there could likely be an oversupply situation develop but overall the world production of oil is at its peak.
  
honestcreditguy
honestcreditguy
2 years ago
Reply to  Christoball
oil is not infinite, I had a grandpappy who worked for Arco in 60’s, had couple gold mines, refineries in Santa fe springs etc. Smart engineer, sold a seperator for gold and black sand to huge dredging outfits. His words were this.
Whenever you hear someone say oil is at its lowest point in so many years or ever, buy it! It will go back up…..
I swear its worked out that way….
anyone get some of that THM I mentioned here at .70 Paulson Sprott own half shares?
Gold triple top breakout on Valentines day…..2079 target
Christoball
Christoball
2 years ago
Don’t worry I am not a Gold bug either. Just making an observation on the markets.
shamrock
shamrock
2 years ago
If I had $10t to spend I could probably keep a floor under the s&p for a very long time.  Technically not allowed to buy stocks but wth just do it.
Scooot
Scooot
2 years ago
Reply to  shamrock
It wouldn’t be politically acceptable. 
FooFooFed
FooFooFed
2 years ago
Reply to  shamrock
Would take act of congress to allow law changes to purchase stocks. How does it make the problems better in the LONG term? seems it just prolongs the same nonsense. 3Trillion only covered 2 years. Plus if your adding debt to do this it will drag on growth just a few years later.
FooFooFed
FooFooFed
2 years ago
Well… we are overlooking that this is a Global Economy and when liquidity dries up the plumbing freezes WORLDWIDE. Fed PUT nonsense is useless. Again look at the EuroDollar Futures, they are telling you something much deeper than even our FED Board members understand. Why do most of us believe the FED understands what to do and when! EXAMPLE: If QE worked why do we need to do it over and over? Growth is slowing. Thanks FED. 
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
2 years ago
Reply to  FooFooFed
“when liquidity dries up the plumbing freezes WORLDWIDE”
And then prices fall, until liquidity is no longer dried up. Nothing hobgoblinish, nor even objectionable, about it.
I can pretty much guarantee you, that there will always be plenty of liquidity available to facilitate buying Mar-a-Lago for a buck. Perhaps even an ounce of Gold.
Just get out of the way and let prices clear. There is never, ever, any economic benefit derived from attempting to get in the way of that.
FlyNavy1
FlyNavy1
2 years ago
To sum it up, the Fed WANTS inflation.  It’s the only way out of 135% debt/GDP.  The rest is ball bearings.
JeffD
JeffD
2 years ago
Reply to  FlyNavy1
The deflation story is getting old fast.
honestcreditguy
honestcreditguy
2 years ago
Reply to  FlyNavy1
the fed sucked at creating inflation, a virus schooled it
ohno
ohno
2 years ago
splat
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
“The Fed could possibly contain inflation by hiking the Fed Funds rate to
2% tomorrow. But the stock market would crash and so would the global
economy along with demand for nearly everything.”
What does ‘2%’ say about the robustness of the global economy and the stock market?  At $1,900, is it too late to buy gold?
Mish
Mish
2 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Gold is just about to take off from a long consolidation period IMO. 
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
2 years ago
Reply to  Mish
Looks like a lot of “Doubting Thomases” are finally coming to the realization that Gold is the only true safe-haven in the financial/political/economic ClownWorld that we now find ourselves stuck in.
Dean_70
Dean_70
2 years ago
Reply to  Mish
I look at the 10-year gold chart and see a massive cup/handle. Am I wrong?
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
2 years ago
Reply to  Dean_70
No. Mish has noted that here on numerous occassions.
If you want to see a real doozy of a cup-and-handle formation, take a look at the long-term Silver chart.
There is a cup-and-handle formation that dates back to 1980. The handle dates from 2011.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
Reply to  Mish
In MHO too. I expect a stampede when SHTF.
honestcreditguy
honestcreditguy
2 years ago
Reply to  Mish
triple top breakout on PNF with 2079 target
Dean_70
Dean_70
2 years ago
It seems to me the Fed is now at a fork in the road.
Path 1: taper and raise rates, which will be short lived since it would negatively effect the economy.
Path 2: benefit from a political crisis (Ukraine) to shock the markets and provide a mechanism of major reset.
Either direction provides a path of pain to the economy.
Kicking the can down the road has worked for a VERY long time but it looks like the can hit the fork and the Fed must travel a path without its trusty can.
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
2 years ago
Reply to  Dean_70
Well, I think at this point, the Fed would be wise to follow the sage advice of Yogi Berra.
“When you come to a fork in the road, take it.”
Rbm
Rbm
2 years ago

How about some discussions on a us default. 

jhrodd
jhrodd
2 years ago
Reply to  Rbm
With all our debt in our own currency there’s no need to default.  The Treasury can just print it away.  The resulting debasement is not much preferable to an outright default though.
Mish
Mish
2 years ago
Reply to  Rbm
Not worth the time. No default by formal definition
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
2 years ago
Reply to  Rbm
While one can dream; it won’t happen until the indocrinati grows up sufficiently to no longer uncritically fall for the trivially silly scam that a US sovereign default is some sort of bad thing, rather than the unmitigated blessing it would really be.
dpy
dpy
2 years ago
Just looking at the fundamental charts that show Fed holdings, interest rates and asset prices would lead one to believe that the long game, accellerating after about 2002, is to increase its holdings and to increase asset prices over the long term.  Looked at a different way, they are increasing debt (largely debt of government) to themselves as evidenced by the magnitute of their holdings.  Rock bottom interest rates both facilitate this process and are a consequence of this process (think mostly QT but also the rates that they can set).  Inflation is an unavoidable consequence of their monetization and also of their Bread and Circus that they must host to keep the jig going.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
Reply to  dpy
“Inflation is an unavoidable consequence of their monetization”
I’ll take the other side.  Low rates / QE was disinflationary (see velocity of money) and generally locked up in (formerly excess) reserves.  Commercial bank lending drives money supply.   What has changed past 2 years is fiscal insanity + loan forbearance + rent moratorium + supply train issues.  Those issues resolving themselves.  
Asset deflation on deck as markets crack.  Coupled with above it will bleed into cpi, which will stun “experts” to the downside in not too distant future.
Scooot
Scooot
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
“Coupled with above it will bleed into cpi, which will stun “experts” to the downside in not too distant future.”
I hope so. 
dpy
dpy
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
As debt has increased over the last upteen years, facilitated by low interest rates (private, municipal, corporate, government), what has seen disinflation?  Corporate bond prices? Treasuries? Rent? Housing? Tuition? Stocks?.
To further my side, which is still just based on observations rather than theories of monetary velocity or anything like that, has not every bubble blown and popped not eventually resulted in an exponential increase in Fed holdings and in asset prices (after rebounding)?
Maybe we can agree on the degradation of the value of the currency caused by the Fed, also a concommitant effect of their increasing their holdings.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
Reply to  dpy
 “what has seen disinflation?”
CPI underperformed FOMC 2% goal for years.  If you recall back in 2008 / 2009 / 2010 many were calling for hyperinflation as Federal Reserve “printed” money.
No doubt there has been (understated) inflation, but that due more to US government allowing cartels to thrive and subsidizing sectors of the economy (health, education, and housing) rather than actions of Federal Reserve.
KidHorn
KidHorn
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
I agree about deflation long term. Might take a year or two to materialize.
Mish
Mish
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Agree with Tony
Asset Deflation on deck in a major way.
One needs to be consistent. If one mentions blowing bubbles as part of inflation, then bursting bubbles are the opposite.
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
2 years ago
Reply to  Mish
“One needs to be consistent. If one mentions blowing bubbles as part of inflation, then bursting bubbles are the opposite.”
All the truly famous inflations; Ming, Law, Weimar, Zimbabwe….; indicate otherwise…
What they all had in common, was to first blow bubbles. Then, when those started peaking and/or deflating, to double down….
Billy
Billy
2 years ago
As a kid I had full faith in doctors. I knew, or at least thought I did, that if I had any issue the doc would know how to fix it. Boy I was wrong.
Now that I’m older it just seems that doctors are drug dealers for big pharma.
In high school I had a really good economics teacher. I remember listening to Alan Greenspan during the fed meeting in class. I thought the government and it’s officials were brilliant like our founding fathers. Boy I was wrong.
RonJ
RonJ
2 years ago
Reply to  Billy
Every boom ends in a bust. Greenspan looked like he was “The Maestro” during the boom. He stepped away just before the housing bust/Great Recession, while the getting out was good.
“Ask your doctor for…”
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 years ago
Reply to  Billy
Depends on how long ago you were a kid.
I was a kid in the 60s and early 70s. Doctors then were not drug dealers for big pharma because big pharma did not exist. My mother has told me many times that my Pediatrician made house calls in the Canadian winter to check on me and my sister when we had various ailments like the flu/measles/chicken pox etc.
KidHorn
KidHorn
2 years ago
Reply to  Billy
Most doctors nowadays just go by the book. They follow the accepted standard treatment for everything. For two reasons. One is insurance will pay for the standard treatment. The other is they won’t get sued if they follow the standard treatment. There are no Dr House’s.
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
2 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
“One is insurance will pay for the standard treatment. The other is they won’t get sued “
Negative value add FIRE racketeers and ambulance chasers, de facto allocating valuable resources that useless little them have bee handed control over by a runaway, totalitarian government and its institutions. America in the DumbAge,
kiers
kiers
2 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
you know there LITERALLY is “a book” or two.  For example, the “Milliman Care Guidelines” , and the other being, i think the Qualys guide.  All that “free market healthcare” blather and they ALL end up consulting these one or two “books”.  The “book” is in the cloud, to boot, to keep the holy document out of plebian hands, safely esconced in cloud subscription fees which aren’t even DISCLOSED! (they do the…:”call us with your needs and we’ll price it for you”.!)  TIM: This is Murica!  Further, the company that “owns” the holy book reaps a nice few billion dollars revenue in the steadiest sharp ratio imaginable, year in year out,…..that company is a part of the William Randolph Hearst organization ! Wealthy “news”paper barron.) So a billionaire has found this esoteric holy book to “own” and charge access for.  TIM.
EquitableTrade
EquitableTrade
2 years ago
I don’t think the Fed is providing the put to the market.  It ran out of that ability a while back.  In 2020, the market reversed at the bottom after the first stimulus bill became reality.  The market barely reacted to the Fed’s actions at the time.  Congress has been providing the put.  Unfortunately, Congress probably still has the political capital to do so even if more stimulus makes the inflation and debt problems worse.  It just takes a couple months of unemployment increasing and the stock market falling for an “emergency” measure to be used.  I guess the big difference this time will be Congress working against the Fed because the Fed is trapped and cannot be more accommodating.  
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
Reply to  EquitableTrade
  “Congress has been providing the put.”
Yes.  The market began its magical ride up in March 2009 almost to the day Congress strong armed FASB to replace Mark to Market with Mark to Model (FASB 157).
kiers
kiers
2 years ago
Reply to  EquitableTrade
Market microstructure provides an insidious “put” most people don’t think about: High Frequency (circular) Trading.  Think on it.
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
2 years ago
Looks like the Gold market has finally realized just how trapped and incompetent the Fed actually is.
Whatever “credibility” they might still have had is now completely shot.
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
Reply to  Bam_Man
The gold buyers are not worried about the Fed at thinis time.
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
2 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
True – the Gold buyers have much bigger things to worry about and are buying PHYSICAL to protect themselves.
They have finally come to realize that the corrupt gang of clowns, grifters, imbeciles and diversity hires that are now in charge of EVERYTHING are in the process of FAILING totally and spectacularly.
Billy
Billy
2 years ago
Reply to  Bam_Man
At least our circus is the best one in the world. So much so that citizens of the other circuses use our money to barter. I think the gold buyers are wondering how long this show can go on. With no one guarding our guardians I’m guessing the greed will cause this show to stop within 10 years. Let’s just hope that it’s just halftime and the show isn’t completely over.
KidHorn
KidHorn
2 years ago
Reply to  Billy
What I’ve seen happening in Europe could change this rapidly. The US is pushing for war with Russia. No one else is. Have you noticed how NATO is non existent over Ukraine. We’re trying to stop Nord Stream 2. Everyone else if for it. Biden said he would stop it if Russia invaded Ukraine. Even if Germany still wanted it. If Germany decides it’s had enough of us and decides it would rather deal with Russia, USD will collapse. The rest of mainland Europe will follow whatever Germany does.
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
2 years ago
Reply to  Billy
“At least our circus is the best one in the world.”
How quaint, coming from someone rendered largely obsolete by a bunch of commies, of all things. And who then doubles down on dumb by getting kicked around by a few dudes in sandals running barely above idle…
The world is paying in US dollars for historic reasons. Not current ones.
Technically, it’s another good example of a phase effect. Which, like many other phase effects, are misguidedly interpreted, by those committed to shortsightedness and oversimplification at least, as instead saying something useful about equilibria.
thimk
thimk
2 years ago
Mister Market vs FEDS .  Fight of the century . I’ve got my nickel on Mister Market . the feds will be able to mute inflation to a small degree . It is apparent that the current admin has beaconed the feds to clean up the effects  of bad policy . But isn’t that always how it works . The feds are always adjusting to accommodate Government policy . Maybe the roles should be reversed ?   
Sandy Beach Dave
Sandy Beach Dave
2 years ago
The Fed is in control of Bank Reserve requirements which are now zero meaning there is no serious limit to lending. I believe lending what you do not own is immoral and should be illegal as bank lending is essentially lending into existence money. A second step toward sanity in our financial system where congress is in control would be reinstating the Glass Steagall Act with no amendments. Mixing investment banking with traditional deposit and loan banking is incorporating risk where it does not belong.
RonJ
RonJ
2 years ago
“A second step toward sanity in our financial system where congress is in
control would be reinstating the Glass Steagall Act with no amendments.”
Is congress in control? Experts testified to congress that Glass-Steagall should not be dismantled. After all, it was instated so that what just happened again, couldn’t happen again. Congress dismantled it, anyway.
With the horses out of the barn, might as well close the door on an empty barn.
The SEC knew that leverage above 12 to 1 was dangerous, but gave leverage waivers to the Big five investment banks. One didn’t have to be Nostradamus, to see what came next. The Big Five abused leverage and crashed, just as the the public health agencies are abusing their EUA authorization in this pandemic.
KidHorn
KidHorn
2 years ago
Banks don’t make money lending any more. There are too few qualified applicants to make it worth the risk at such low interest rates. They make money via investing and credit cards now.
TechLover1
TechLover1
2 years ago
This soft landing is going to be very tricky, Captain!
FED (and government by their fiscal actions) have painted themselves in a very difficult corner. Both will try to defuse the situation as long as possible. Let’s see if they can sustain it past the midterms which is probably a goal for both.
My money is on the outcome that soft landing is highly unlikely, it will be a hard landing. The million dollar question, as always, is the timing of all of this and how big the blowout top phase will be.
Karlmarx
Karlmarx
2 years ago
Yes the Fed is in control.  They can easily screw up the economy. 
kiers
kiers
2 years ago
Reply to  Karlmarx
wide is the path….eye of the needle etc etc, right?
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
To quote myself, which is bad form, I know… ‘The Fed is in control until it’s not.’
Might marking the Fed portfolio ‘to market’ (from its balance sheet) impact the degree of control it has?
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
“At times the Fed appears to be in control. But it’s a mirage. The mirage of control happens when the Fed’s interest and the markets are aligned.”
Yes.
Their Bark much worse than their Bite.  When investor sentiment bullish (which is most of the time) monetary easing (or jawboning) looked upon favorably.  When sentiment bearish, won’t matter what Federal Reserve does.  If markets are in disarray, a move by Federal Reserve could be interpreted negatively (if, say, FOMC announced a 100 bps emergency rate cut … investors might think ‘what do they know that I don’t?’ … and sell with renewed vigor).
You are SPOT ON with your “aligned” comment.

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