Hello J.D. Vance. Let’s discuss your questions.
Mish: Grok, is that image accurate?
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Silence is Now Golden
Complaint Ignored
Video is in English. Play it.
Free-for-All Many Subjects
Lawsuits Here, There, But Not Everywhere
How MAGA Copes
No Arrests?
A Necessary Condition to Work for DOJ
Kash Patel
Not treason. Just lies under oath and covering up underage sex trafficking.
Dead Silence
The Attack on Thomas Massie
Elon Musk Yet Again
William Barr
A Bit on ICE
Another Big Fat Lie
Cuba Is Now an Unusual and Extraordinary Threat
Rare Integrity
Let’s Discuss Bruce Springsteen
Nice Summation
“I almost appreciate how Trump has exposed how vacant every single high profile conservative belief was: free speech, states’ rights, letting the market decide, NATO, right to bear arms, democracy, all of it. It’s been an empty, malicious political project for decades and decades.“
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January 28, 2026: Noem Invokes the Nuremberg Defense, Blames Trump and Stephen Miller
Well, this is a fun development.
January 29, 2026: Ice Agents Tackle Mother Holding Her 4-Year-Old. Is this De-Escalation?
Trump is a liar. He does not want to de-escalate. He wants people to believe he is.
January 30, 2026: Major Oops by DOJ, Unredacted Epstein Files Show Trump is a Pedophile
I can’t wait to see the sugar coating by MAGA on this.
No sugar coating, just silence everywhere.
There seems to be no solid evidence that Trump is a pedophile. But should a person who was close friend with a notorious pedophile and sex trafficker for almost two decades be allowed to hold high public office? The answer in any self-respecting country most likely would be a resounding no.
I agree 100%, but with the caveat that “There seems to be no solid evidence released that Trump is a pedophile”. We know a lot is being held back, and from what is retracted it seems a protect trump action is going on.
Hartnett (of BOA) wrote gold parabolic spikes have been proceeded by “great events”, the first on his list is Nixon stepping down. Could this be all be the next on the list?
I see tons of hypocrisy.
That’s bad, but it’s all the child rape that gets me.
Ew. Just Ew.
Here are the biggest questions facing the nation, now that DJTs sexual escapades are known to one and all:
> What will Melania do now?
That question answered. B the penis G in a tight spot. Perhaps. Protected by the system – 0 doubt about that.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nancy-mace-demands-subpoena-bill-gates-epstein-noose-tightens-around-globalist-elite
Not enough adjectives and expletives in all of English, Spanish, French, and Chinese to describe this regime of utter asshats.
There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever of taco’s long-term involvement with sexual predator epstein and co.
MAGA lives in an alternate reality.
Trump is restoring morality to America.
MAGA admires Trump so much, they want their kids to grow up to be just like him and they are raising their kids accordingly.
The MAGA future looks bright!
We The People have been training them for years.
— Police brutality was been excused for decades before ICE, and the public forums would excuse shooting for minor violations. From both political sides!
— Pedophilia was excused for years under the under Good Old Boys Clubs, the woke movement put it in children’s books, or under Religious Freedoms (you don’t wanna know what’s happening in some ethnic groups).
— Human trafficking is still being excused under the immigration agenda, with hundreds of NGOs in the US and Europe.
— Institutional corruption was been excused for decades, although it was a partisan battle with much collateral damage.
— Artificial price inflation of basic necessities through high energy prices and production sabotage was being covered or excused for years, if not decades.
— Offshoring work for decades, from both parties. And then, sending taxpayer money abroad and leaving US communities on their own…
Trump went against some of these practices, but only to the extend it didn’t affect him personally.
What’s happening now in Virginia says he’s not the last one. In fact, we’re entering a very nasty era.
Back in 1863 a President tried to make ammends….. President Abraham Lincoln issued a proclamation establishing Thanksgiving a national holiday, enjoining the nation to repent for “our national perverseness and disobedience” to God during the Civil War and asking forgiveness for their sins.
Donald and the other exposed creatures could now get together and try to hash out an equally fitting response? We might end up with another paid holiday?
Lincoln started an undeclared war over tariffs (read his first inaugural address) that ended up killing approximately 700,000 Americans.
Nah, S Carolina started a war. Then a bunch of other states joined in.
South started it. Heard of Ft Sumpter?
It’s always been a con to anyone paying attention. And after the next election, when Trump is nothing more than a skid mark on the toilet bowl of American history, the R’s will be back to lecture us all again on free markets, fiscal piety and good old, god fearing Conservative principles.
AND… the D’s will fellate it.
To me it is surreal that we are even having this discussion.
Trump stated to the Howard Stern audience that “I have no age limit” when it comes to sex with young girls.
He boldly stated that if you are a star, you can “grab them by the Pussy”.
And MAGA voted for him. Fox promotes his every lie and their viewers suspend reality like they are watching their favorite WWF fighter.
Clinton was impeached for getting a consensual blowjob while Trump traffics children and congress and the DOJ are orchestrating the coverup. Over 1,000 victims and not one prosecution of these perverts.
Half of America has an IQ of less than 100 so you know where Trump voters come from.
I’m not making excused for Clinton because he obviously has done worse and his files should be treated like any other prosecution of a sexual predator.
Get the prosecution into the courts and get on with it!
sure thing frosty. they will be right on that, after the court docket is cleared of the 9.11.01 inside job, the panic of 2008, the WMD lying to waste trillions of money and kill millions of people…………..i love ya frosty, but do you know where you live. this ain’t some old empire that crumbled long ago and is now just some run of the mill republic like italy or france……..where criminal politicians go to prison along with some bankers…………we don’t do that. we are the empire. uniparty voters approve of this message. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtL6kbYiP-w
Sadly no one will be prosecuted. To do that you need real evidence, not just call in line speculation or emails that are just innuendo (without concrete proof any lawyer can get those easily dismissed from a case).
Most of the stuff happened decades ago and unless there is some real credible evidence that can stand in court and a whole lot of witnesses + photos to be found no prosecutor is going to bring charges.
Clinton was impeached for the coverup & lying saying on more than one occasion “I did not have sexual relations with that woman”.
They need a diversion now. SOMETHING BIG, like a 911! False flag time.
I’m sure Trump’s people are having a Signal chat about that right now, with lots of flexing bicep emojis being exchanged
I thought that was his wifes movie.
That’s what Iran and Cuba are for.
I would lile something else: the comprehensive list of prominent politicians in high positions demanding the full release of the Epstein files.
The names that are so far not in released files speak loudly too. No Biden, Obama or Bush. And we can safely assume that any files with them in it would have been released first. One name very much implicated, even with all the files that are withheld: Trump. Maga, this is who you voted for. That Maga is economically silly was established already with the tariffs. But can we now please also be done with the fake claim that any of you are actual Christians? No true Christian would support this child rapist.
No I explained this. You can safely assume they will be released last, to take eyes off Republicans
Interesting idea. Could be true indeed. Although it implies a level of impulse control that I don’t associate with trump. We’ll know soon enough then
i would take the wager that on this little nit picking point you are wrong. not a shot in hell trump’s kangaroo justice department would NOT have led with the most dirt on powerful Ds in power today. i always assume i’m wrong, btw. why i’m a great trader. trend follow, with trailing stops. i’ve been wrong 80% of the time the past 40 years and profited from that. keep up the good work Mish. glad you have brains and balls and a heart. very rare.
Mish, the link to your last quote is faulty. It goes to some NRA tweet.
Reads properly on my screen, top half is a reply to NRA. I quoted it exactly.
OK sorry, must be my browser settings
Come on now, Kathleen, you could have STALLED for 23 freaking days!
Could Have Gone Out On Emergency Stress Leave – Used Up
Sick & Vacation Days.!
The FBI didn’t do its job back in 1996 and since, because Epstein was Mossad. Effectively, the US is Israel’s bitch. It’s okay to statutorily rape 15 year old girls to control powerful men if you are Mossad.
There is a ton of evidence that Epstein was Mossad. But if you are always asking the wrong question, the answer doesn’t matter.
If Epstein was just pedo, he could just buy remote island 1000xxx miles from USA, bring kids , fuck11ed them and NOBODY KNEW ABOUT THIS!!
They did know and let him off with a slapped wrist.
CIA decision old sport. he was the perfect man to let out and continue with his blackmailing schemes against other pederasts. the CIA does far worse under uniparty control of executive and congress for 80 years. a pedophile honey pot is a walk on the beach for the CIA>. what do they give a fuck about some children being raped? zip, nada. most likely they get off on the masochism and cruelty. the way of an evil empire
my take on this.
I am russian , so repubs/dems. i dont care!!
=1 trump was involved w/ Epstein. same city, same profile (= women, glitz, etc), same rich people around…
=2 Trump is blabbermouth, so before elections he was talking about opening files
after = are we still talking about files=
=3 Epstein run deep operation to catch hi level people by compromising them.
he worked for : putin, russians, kgb , fsb, mossad, cia, israel, I DONT CARE!!!
=4 If Epstein was just pedo, he could just buy remote island 1000xxx miles from USA, bring kids , fuck11ed them and NOBODY KNEW ABOUT THIS!!
=5 democrats did not open files on trump, cause they would need to open all files (= v.v.v..v serious allegations), and Trump would be useless after info being made public!
alx
100% agree. i’m amerikan with italian citizenship too. spent the 90s doing business in russia with my pals from columbia u who had defected in the 80s and also some polish pals who left the ivy league to go help with the dock worker strike in poland. never knew braver men and women. amerikans are mostly so naive. because they are nihilists who don’t really care to think. century of the self documentary free on youtube by adam curtiss explains the how and why…………..
ps. i was not registered at columbia u. i just studied there a great deal. some profs let me attend lectures even. i was working with NASA lab elsewhere………as a young buck in my 20s. my girlfriend was anthropologist grad student…………..now my spouse.
In other news there’s a video going around of Trump audibly shitting himself in front of a bunch of people and then everyone getting rushed out of the room.
In more hopeful news, the Democrat in a special Texas Senate election won with a 30+ point swing over Trump’s number in 2024. What would the US house of reps look like with a 30+ or even 20+ point swing?
“What would the US house of reps look like with a 30+ or even 20+ point swing?”
It would look as useless and impotent as it does now. What do you expect will change? Will the dems fix the $40 trillion in debt? the demographic death spiral? the collapse of social programs?
Sure they may defund ICE and change a few things like re-arrange the chairs on the Titanic so that the passengers are a bit more comfortable as the ship sinks. The smart thing to do is take life raft and get off the damn ship.
ha ha ha. very true. uniparty of warmongering debt junkies, from top to the lowly common amerikans…………i’m expecting the GFC times 10. most places will be fine. just broke.
Yep, nothing ever changes. It is DESIGNED that way.
things change kid. they always do. see history books if you must. read this time it’s different.
Eh pretty sure people in Minnesota would disagree with you. Actually pretty sure people any shade except Lily white would disagree with you. Easy to think that way in isolation though.
I did mention defunding ICE, that would ameliorate the “Minnesota” issue. What other beef do they have at the moment?
Sure, you made a dismissive remark about it, while people there are living in fear and occasionally getting murdered. That was my point. It’s a pretty big deal to anyone affected. But it’s easy to minimize for a lot of us sitting safe for now elsewhere, or with a slightly different shade of skin, or with a traditional gender identity, etc etc
Hey as you get older the chances of pooping your pants goes up.
Depends on what dems can do. Balance budget / campaign finance reform/ stop politicians from gaming stock market / actual immigration reform/ etc. instead of letting the republicans make it about trans/ books / abortion etc.
What really made me laugh is how practiced they are at hiding it. Took me 3 watches to catch what was going on.
I wonder if they have a “Poop alert” hand signal to clear the room.
This has been going on since the apprentice days, as show in this artists depiction from the early aughts:
https://youtu.be/uZ7c90Cd_lM?t=125
“Code Brown we have a Code Brown on Big Orange”
good one!
Where are all the commenters posting the Zerohedge take on this? You know zerohedge, the bastion of journalistic integrity that only covers the topics the main stream media ignores? The zerohedge that only tells the truth 100% of the time no matter how it makes any party look.
/s
It would, however, be great if there was a “1 Hedge” that would deliver the truth. IMPOSSIBLE NOW.
I haven’t noticed any strong theme in the Zerohedge take on this. I think it is staying more balanced than our host is.
ZH used to be great. i still check on some topics they do decent stuff with. i’m surprised there is plenty of anti trump sentiment on some of the topics. the red v blue team stuff is silly. it’s one big uniparty
i miss the days of comment sections on ZH and mish and many more places where people would exchange trading ideas. now that’s redditt and yahoo chat and some youtubers………comment sections. economist shut down their comment section years ago. that was the place i got my best ideas. folks inside places like india and china and russia………..who knew what they were talking about at high places………..it got too ugly and they shut it down.
ZH hasn’t been great since the aftermath of the 2008 crisis. Now it’s just a syndication outfit for the cult that runs the Epoch Times. I’ve checked it since only to get a pulse of the looney ward.
Indeed. So quiet now.
To be sure, Trump was a relatively recent convert to what might be called populist conservatism. In the 1990s, he fiercely opposed the ideas of Pat Buchanan.
The man has no core beliefs except Israel and Donald Trump.
Trump is completely unprincipled, which curiously turns out to be one of his greatest strengths. He drops unpopular positions quickly, and is on to the next thing. When you have a core belief, the danger is going down with the ship.
Is the thing that you all don’t like about Trump that he is intelligent, lives in the real world, and likes women? He reminds me a lot of Pope Alexander VI.
I don’t like that he is an authoritarian and a narcissist.
But it probably the raping of children that bothers me the most.
How about you?
I haven’t heard about any children being raped. I’ve heard about a lot of little hookers being hired. I think I would prefer older women myself. Benjamin Franklin said that older women were better all round, and I think he was right.
“I haven’t heard about any children being raped”
Really? You might want to scroll up to the top and read the article you are commenting in, especially the beginning parts.
I did. I saw a lot of malicious gossip. There are very few people whose criticisms of Trump on the grounds of his character and his liking for women I would take seriously. I can think of Thomas Massie, Ron Paul, and Rand Paul. Also maybe Newt Gingrich if he were to weigh in on the subject. I think a lot of people should take a cold shower and get back to talking about things they know something about.
I am old enough to remember what was done to Dick Nixon by a corrupt establishment. When someone has shown he can lead and get things done, and he is obviously doing so, let him get on with it. He may have to do some things you don’t approve of. He may have some personal faults that you will find hard to excuse. Read Machiavelli. And don’t tell me that Machiavelli was evil. He exposed the secrets of evil men. Also stupidity and cowardice do at least as much harm in politics as evil does.
If you aren’t tough enough to read and understand Machiavelli, try reading C. S. Lewis’s “The Inner Ring” (an essay, not a book). It says some of the same things in a Christian sort of way.
Another important question is: Why didn’t the Biden administration release the Epstein files to help Kamala win the election?
Because sick people exist in BOTH parties.
And at the highest levels of corporate America. They couldn’t reveal how sick many of the rich and famous really are.
jesus! again 10 years old question
democrats did not open files on trump, cause they would need to open all files (= v.v.v..v serious allegations), and Trump would be useless after info being made public!
it is 101 of blackmailing.
exactly. 100%. it is how blackmail works. uniparty were holding each other hostage. the CIA in control if it………..why they are always all for endless wars……….good for CIA business. hat tip poppy bush and 9.11.01
I think the simple answer is because Biden would have been accused of a psyop/lawfare/etc and there would be endless conspiracy theories about it.
America already knew Trump was a scumbag with that infamous “grab them by the p****” comment recorded and his predilection to walk into dressing rooms with underaged women and they still voted for him. At this point, it’s clear MAGA would vote for Satan himself as long as he promised to own the libs.
America is the new Sodom & Gomorrah, you should know what the next stage brings…
Got exit strategy?
UR RIGHT.
NY and CA are the new Sodom & Gomorrah, but I can tell which is which. It doesn’t really matter.
Is Newsom and Mamdani’s name in the Epstein files? Let me know when you find out and post a link here.
They wanted a total nincompoop, Trump, in to take the blame for a crumbling society.
Because they had an independent justice department. I know that’s not a popular idea among many nihilistic thinkers here, but until this administration that was pretty much the norm. Even in trump I, mostly.
Link
https://rumble.com/v753y8a-they-lied-to-you-about-the-epstein-files.html?e9s=src_v1_sa%2Csrc_v4_sa_o%2Csrc_v1_ucp_a
I can’t stand this guy Nick Fuentes but even a broken clock is right twice a day and he’s right on this one. of course his solution won’t work.
Nichola J Fuentes on rumbel (sic) this weekend.
They Lied To You About The Epstein Files
Epstein File Dump
War With Iran Imminent
“Hanging over T’s head like a dagger” it’s about the blackmail by ….
On deck Iran, again.
Conspicuously absent from the files are Iranians, Palestinians, and Venezuelans.
These are our preverts and no one else’s.
bunch of illegals= pedos in usa from s. america
dont paint them angels
Your thoughts are ignorant and obnoxious. I am married to a lovely Brazilian woman. Through her I have met many South American immigrants, mostly legal, some not. The vast majority are extremely hard working, religious, family oriented people I am proud to call friends. To smear them as pedophiles (like Donnie Demento) is despicable.
No fan of Trump on my end, but my having been the victim of being named in corporate lawsuits as a shakedown method educated me to understand that accusations are very easy to make without any substantiation.
If you think all these charges against Trump are lies given his “grab em by the pussy” statements, a Jury convicted Trump of rape, the 100% certain lies by Trump and Lutnic and Musk and the FVI director in the Epstein files … etc., etc., etc. you are only nuts.
But OK sorry for the attack on you.
sexual battery, but not rape.
Here is a link to the article about suit being withdrawn .https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3894806/Woman-alleged-raped-Donald-Trump-13-Jeffrey-Epstein-sex-party-DROPS-case-casting-doubt-truth-claims.html. Hard toknow the truth. And Mish, I thought your site was the one civilized one sans ad hominem attacks. The might have fallen. What a shame
How much was she paid?
Explain the rape conviction.
Do you even know what an ad hominem attack is?
Do you fail to understand that dropping a charge does not mean innocence.
In short you are a moron in more than one way.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-trial-fe68259a4b98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db
NEW YORK (AP) — A jury found Donald Trump liable Tuesday for sexually abusing advice columnist E. Jean Carroll in 1996, awarding her $5 million in a judgment that could haunt the former president as he campaigns to regain the White House.
The verdict was split: Jurors rejected Carroll’s claim that she was raped, finding Trump responsible for a lesser degree of sexual abuse. The judgment adds to Trump’s legal woes and offers vindication to Carroll, whose allegations had been mocked and dismissed by Trump for years.
Probably obvious I did not find her credible and just another grifter carrying a personal grudge from a past social encounter or sleight with Trump at some point (So easy to envision She’s really stupid & she’s an advice columnist) or seizing a golden opportunity jumping on the believe all women me to bandwagon.
The woman was 52 YO & a professional advice columnist in 1996 saying it occurred in a public venue (department store) but did not come forward until 2019 when NY passed The “one-year rape rule” in New York, more formally known as the Adult Survivors Act (ASA), allowed for a one-year special window (which closed in November 2023) for survivors of sexual offenses to file lawsuits, regardless of when the abuse occurred.
In New York, there is no statute of limitations for serious felony sex offenses, including Rape in the First Degree, meaning prosecution can occur at any time . For other degrees of sexual offenses, the limitations period varies, often ranging from 5 years, though this can be extended if the victim was a minor.
Watched a few minutes of epstein interviews by Bannon, so far. Epstein was intelligent and a genius. With NO wisdom. Which opens the door for NIHILISM. And abuse of so many other humans……….. As the ancient western philsophers would say, A LIFE NOT WORTH LIVING. The eastern philosophers would say he never faced reality of who he was……….. NIHILISM IS THE MODERN AMERIKAN PLAGUE WE ADOPTED FROM THE GERMANS 125 YEARS AGO
Well this got a bit more interesting. A lot of unsubstantiated statements, but so many on the same theme that just reinforce other statements. The allegations are so horrible that you have to doubt them, but can you truly dismiss the flood of information that says much the same thing.
A side story is that a lot more that is challenging to the powers that be has been released and some damaging material which was retracted, after being downloaded was quite damaging. Got to wonder if it isn’t a hint to Trump of what will happen if he doesn’t do what Israel wants regards Iran.
Massie showing himself to be a true patriot amongst so many fully paid for pissants. Hi Lindsay.
Even MTG is backing up and unloaded on the bad guys with some courage.
MTG is probably setting herself up as the outsider that will ride to the rescue in 2028.
Why has J.D. Vance changed his name three different times?
What is he trying to hide?
Trump really screwed us all, and will probably go out in a blaze of glory with Hegseth and the morons around him. I REPEAT ALWAYS, DEMOCRACY WORKS. THE UNIPARTY OF RED AND BLUE VOTERS HAVE BEEN VOTING FOR NONSTOP WORLD WIDE WARFARE SINCE 1898. THANKS
– I REPEAT ALWAYS, DEMOCRACY WORKS. > Excellent then, as a Democracy is as stated: A Government by the people, exercised either directly, or through elected Representatives. It’s Exactly What We Currently Have!!! I am so glad you spoke the Truth! A Good Day, and I totally agree with You!
you are a minority of amerikans that can face that reality. i have calculated in my many decades of asking my friends and family, it is about 2%. you can see it in the votes for greens and libertarians. i’m assuming you are amerikan. if not, my apologies. i’m dual citizen of one empire and one old empire , plus and illegal at times.
Yes, actually born in a Hospital is the U.S. that was torn down and built into a School many years later.
As Life’s twist and turns would have it, My Daughter became a School Teacher years later, and actually taught on the Grounds my Dad was in the Military on, and Met my Mom on as well.
Small World!!
nice. i was born a poor black sharecropper. hope you know that movie. dad guarded nazis in the war. his brother captured and escaped the nazis after battle of bulge. after the war, dad actually had beers at a beer hall in a very german hood, ridgewood and bushwick in nyc with some of his old prisoners. at the farm POWwork camp, they played cards…..with the nazis after they worked the fields, happily. i interviewed my dad when i was in 10th grade as an assignment. glad i did. he never really talked about war except to joke around……… i recently went to the beer hall he told me about. he was young. they were young and happy to be captured by the amerikans and not on the eastern front. i knew 3 actual nazis in my life. 2 of my friends fathers were in the war as young nazi soldiers and moved to nyc area. one hid it. the other was an open book. i was on a long long flight in business class with a drunk old retired pilot in the luftwaffe. he was coming back from a funeral for his mother in bavaria, germany to his home in AZ. his 2 sons were at USAF academy. on this long flight he let me ask him a hundred questions……….his analysis of empires and where amerika was heading was profound. this was about 20 years ago. i lived in AZ at the time and chatted with him for a few years until he passed on.
I’m sure this century would be better if everybody could just post under his/her own name to have open discussions with others, without any consideration of anyone (idiots, terrorists, govt, etc) going after you. I liked reading that story a lot.
=Trump really screwed us all, and will probably go out in a blaze of glory
it was plan from getgo
TO INSTALL PUPPET FROM Epstein FILES
this one or another
– How Does Snopes Fact Check?
– The research and editorial team note that a news story or particular image is receiving lots of attention. > Jump on the Top, and often times Political Stories.
– Or, the team receives a tip regarding a potential myth that requires busting (or confirming). > So an Anonymous Tip, on a potential Myth, that they Confirm or Bust. Do they identify the Tipster once the Myth is Confirmed or Denied, to be a Fact Now? We would want clarification on this potential insider Tipster, or made up story Tipster, so we don’t get lied to, tricked with phony info, or by the same person making up stories over and over again, right? Do we get that Information?
– The editorial team attempts to contact any relevant parties to receive a first-hand account of the story. Do they let us know which stories have a first-hand account, and BY WHOM? Do they let us know the breakdown of relevant stories. Like 100 fake 1 good would be suspect from the same person. How about when it’s a standard 25x more fake, so that would raw a Red Flag!
– From there, it is a case of collecting supporting information from a variety of sources. > The true ones or the ones that Lie? What %, as 3% or 20% would be ridiculous if 275 were submitted for example. Is a writing analysis done on EVERY ONE to verify its authenticity? If not, then why? It must be published data I would think, for security and Honesty purposes alone…
– Snopes attempts to use non-partisan information and data sources where possible. In some cases, this is simply impossible. > You don’t say, and I would bet 1M if I could, that 10% or less are attempted and accurate at best…
– Over the years, the Snopes’ fact-checking focus has turned increasingly political… > You don’t say, and now they are said to be more trusted than ever, right?
Cope on a rope
Innocent until proven guilty in USA. What you “know” or suspect has to be proved in court beyond a reasonable doubt by a judge or jury of their peers . Many named or suspected possess resources to mount extremely effective legal defenses.
Full Epstein document release are so bad (MAD Nuclear War) the democratic party would not release when they had all the levers of power despite Pontification now. IMO outrage behind Epstein’s backer would result in their effective destruction as have effectively declared war on affected nations.
We have already proven beyond a reasonable doubt
1. Trump is a liar
2. Musk is a liar
3. Lutnick is a liar
4. Patel is a liar
And we see with redactions and after-the-fact redactions that Bondi is breaking the law on these releases.
Now that does not mean every charge is True But if you are defending this as if it’s all lies you have serious issues.
All politicians are professional liars not saints. The world is mostly gray not black & white.
Epstein was not a lone agent he worked for an alphabet agency and or foreign government entity or entities. How much of our terrible political policy & governance is due to their actions & compounded action under duress?
Trump is loud, obnoxious – and obvious. I am far more frightened by what Democrats will do with power after Republicans are swept out. Corruption with Republicans is mostly favoring a few rich (now, maybe rich rapists). With Democrats, the welfare state expands to maintain their clientele – and corruption goes ballistic. Worse, there is little or no accountability for failure – as with NYC policies that fail but don’t change. Pick your poison here.
So you think Democrats would be worse than what you have now? Unbelievable.
It’s time to stop with the left vs right. It’s up vs down (elites vs the people). Until the elites are brought to heel and government reformed to adhere to Constitutional law, the trajectory will be towards a more abusive and powerful government.
I appreciate Tucker Carlson reaching across to talk with liberals and point out the deliberate media left vs right spincycle. We don’t have to agree except on one matter : if we do not unite against this, everything could be lost.
Yeah, no. False equivalency. If you’re sincere you can place blame squarely where it belongs. All of a sudden nobody will have ever supported all this shit. But 77 million did and nobody should ever forget it.
Yes, I do. Democrats are zealously ruining Califonia, Oregon, NY and Washington. If you think Trump is horrible, just imagine Gavin Newsom as President……and let’s not forget that deranged Trump replaced senile Biden. This is how awful things have become.
There were two choices Harris or Trump.
WRONG, there were 24 candidates running for president in 2024 plus 235,673 write-ins.
One party is passive aggressive, the other party is active aggressive. Passive aggressive is always worse because most people can’t see anything to resist even though things are falling apart all around them.
Nah, nice try shifting blame
Not shifting blame. They are both on the same side, and it is not with the people. I am describing tactics so we can all be aware.
You’re afraid of Dems in power? Why- are you an ICE goon or is your name in the Epstein files?
So based on this there is no hope at all for the US?
Are we trying to turn the Titanic around after it has hit the iceberg?
Pleasant Sunday morning reading.
There is always hope, I am an optimist.
But it requires change and urgency.
There is always more cope too, often confused with optimism.
If you are more fearful of democrats after this, your head is up your ass.
I’m convinced you have a lot of two kinds here:
1) Trump voters now trying to avoid ego collapse as it becomes more and more impossible to ignore how wrong they were, and
2) nihilists, foreign actors, and bitter people who insist on the narrative that America is crumbling.
I find both groups to be shameful and worthy of scorn.
Totally agree. 2nd group also contains AI bots.
To think that the level of corruption we see now is comparable to anything before, including democrat led administrations is just silly. It’s sad to see people desperately cling to their “side” instead of taking a good luck at the reality of what they voted for.
I pick universal health care in 2027, with enough votes to override Vance’s veto.
Excellent!!
WSJ: No Imminent US Strikes on Iran
The U.S. military is reinforcing the Middle East with F-15Es and advanced missile defenses, but there’s a catch. With Gulf allies closing their airspace and Iran on high alert, can the U.S. strike without triggering a regional war?
SILVER LINING TO BEING ISOLATED NOW, WITH NO ALLIES IN THE WORLD. THANKS MAGA BILLIES. Allies closing airspace.
Silver pun intended.
If you really believe the ‘Gulf allies’ are our allies, you haven’t been paying attention.
We do joint work together collaborating on various information. I don’t know how faithful an ally they would be if called upon however…
allies don’t mean loved ones. weird how we called on NATO panic button after 9.11.01 and NATO countries stepped up. i don’t think it has been used since.
– allies don’t mean loved ones. > Excellent point, and many of those, can’t be counted on either!
bought and payed for pawns, for many years by using our petrodollar protection mafia. like gangsters have allies, in the cities they control……..
Chinese laughing there collective butts off as America spends more and more on “defense” while China builds another 1000 miles of high speed rail, or another hospital or more multi lane highways and more electrical generation. China is also making new friends and trading partners around the world while the US ends long term relationships with it’s allies. Stupid MAGA cheers.
Waiting for Vlad or an asteroid to take out the trash(?)
bully bully