Lacy Hunt Blasts Fed Forward Guidance, Notes Sharpest Money Decline Since 1934

Please consider the 2023 First Quarter Review by Lacy Hunt, emphasis mine.

[Fed forward guidance] was heavily used in the Pandemic, and quite possibly may ultimately prove to be very costly on both the micro and macro level. As of late 2021, the Fed was unequivocally advising that policy would be loose for longer, a tactic that undoubtedly led to overly aggressive risk taking by the bank, shadow bank, corporate and household sectors. The Fed’s forward guidance of late 2021 proved highly inaccurate.

Even more explicitly than Fisher, Charles Kindleberger wrote “Speculative manias gather speed through expansion of money and credit or perhaps, in some cases, get started because of an initial expansion of money and credit.” To paraphrase Kindleberger money and credit excesses lead to “manias, panics and crashes,” which is also the title of his famous 1978 book in which the above quote is found. 

Another major breakthrough can be found in “Loose Monetary Policy and Financial Instability” Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, February 2023 by Maximilian Grimm, Òscar Jordà, Moritz Schularick, and Alan M. Taylor (referred to as GJST). 

GJST provide strong empirical documentation that the posture of monetary policy affects the stability of the financial system. To quote the authors, “a loose stance over an extended period of time leads to increased financial fragility several years down the line.” 

From one financial cycle to the next, the conditions described by GJST could bring a new array of policy actions but, in so doing, the Fed could eventually destabilize the economy even more than in the prior financial cycle

Outlook

The risk of a recession continues to rise, even though the economy grew in the first quarter. The Fed has neutralized the inflationary impact of the fastest modern era money growth in 2020-2021. Other deposit liabilities (ODL), in real terms, have registered a double-digit decline in the 12 months ended March, with the 24-month change at a negative 5%. Over the past 12 months, real bank credit had declined even before the recent, and highly visible, bank failures and is now unchanged for the past 24 months. Although monthly data is not available before World War II, the latest 12 month decline in M2 is undoubtedly the sharpest since 1934

Two considerations suggest that the rise in velocity in 2022, and the first quarter of  this year, which has thus far interfered with the Fed’s efforts to contain inflation, will reverse. By formula and statistical estimation, velocity lags the business cycle. Since V equals GDP (a coincident variable) divided by money (a leading variable), V must definitionally lag. Econometrically, velocity is determined by the marginal revenue product of debt and the loan to deposit (L/D) ratio, both of which are lagging indicators. The econometrics would be highly questionable if V were determined by leading indicators.

Accordingly, with low or declining economic activity, the inflation rate will continue to recede. Further progress will be made in terms of moving consumer inflation into the Fed’s target zone in 2024. Therefore, with the historical pattern of the financial, GDP and price/ labor cycles proceeding on its well documented path, this year’s decline in long-term Treasury bond yields is expected to continue

There is much more in the report. Please give it a look. As always, thanks to Lacy Hunt.

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vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
inflation is cumulative. ridiculous premise that it is cooling off. stagflation is the best we can hope for. deflation is a pipe dream of very wrong men.
Intelligentyetidiot
Intelligentyetidiot
1 year ago
Lacy absolutely blew his inflation call and has no credibility any more than Powell does.
He explicitly said the amount of money Fed printed wasn’t enough to cause inflation and has been a one trick pony with his deflation calls.
Maybe he is talking his book but I followed his advise and lost money as inflation exploded.
He sounds so smart and knowledgeable yet he was so wrong, living proof that in economic matters nobody knows anything really, they are all just hot air. Being naturally ignorant or coming to your ignorance through toil and countless hours of reading and education, what difference does it really make, might as well throw a dice to predict the future.
dtj
dtj
1 year ago
We’ve been experiencing disinflation for the last several months according to the CPI-W that social security uses.
Here’s the series since last June: 292.542, 292.219, 291.629, 291.854, 293.003, 292.495, 291.051, 293.565, 295.057, 296.021.
Over the last 9 months, inflation (according to the CPI-W) has been 1.58% on an annualized basis.
By this summer the “year to year” inflation figures are going to show very little inflation and people are going to be “surprised” but the data is already there for everyone to see.
Countering any current inflationary pressures (oil prices, government spending, etc) is a collapse in the demand for goods and an increase in layoffs.
Christoball
Christoball
1 year ago
Reply to  dtj
Disinflation is occurring (a temporary slowing of the pace of price inflation) but is only academic for most people’s wallets. Deflation would be more meaningful for most. Even if inflation dropped to zero, people are still paying higher prices. Inflation is compound inflation, not simple inflation.
Year over year CPI was up 5% in March.
If March 2023 CPI were calculated triennially, it would be 16.9%, stating that
prices are 16.9% higher than in March 2020. This represents a .6% increase from last months 16.31% triennial CPI figure. Long term, we are still not in a disinflationary cycle.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
Reply to  Christoball
correct. inflation is cumulative. most miss this obvious point.
MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 year ago
UK inflation still above 10%….ouch.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
1 year ago
SEATTLE–(BUSINESS WIRE)– (NASDAQ: RDFN) — The median U.S. home price fell 3.3% in March to $400,528, the largest year-over-year drop since 2012, according to a new report from Redfin (redfin.com), the technology-powered real estate brokerage.
disinflation / deflation Dead Ahead
MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 year ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
This past weekend I was in Austin, TX looking at properties. The prices have come down about 20% but they are still overpriced about 27% so I’m still waiting… I’ve given up on Chicago, I think Chicago will be the new Detroit in a few years.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45v2
Coaster just started down.
Workable bottom for buyers will be 2024 and 2025.
jiminy
jiminy
1 year ago
Given the massive debt of the government and the securities needed to finance it, I expect a long term inversion of the yield curve. This will not be good for the banking system.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
I don’t think combating inflation is the sole reason the FED is tightening. I think they’re also worried about funding the government. They can see less USD demand going forward, so it will be harder to sell government debt. Interest rates will have to go up regardless of what the FED does. They’re just getting us prepared.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
“I don’t think combating inflation is the sole reason the FED is tightening.”
Nor do I. Imo, large part is to wreck non banks + securitization … which will strengthen (wall street) banks as competitors taken out on a stretchers. Going forward (if successful) will allow monetary policy to function better if dealing (mainly) with banks.
Christoball
Christoball
1 year ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Interesting. What are examples of non banks. Which non banks are the biggest and will need the largest stretchers?
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
1 year ago
Reply to  Christoball
Sovereign wealth funds. Endowments. Institutional investors. Private equity. Hedge funds. Insurance companies. The list goes on and on.
BlackRock probably the biggest with around $9 trillion to $10 trillion in AUM.
Banks (in general) well regulated. Everyone else? THAT is the problem.
An example:
“Life insurance companies, until recently a reliable source of capital for commercial property developers, are turning their backs on office building owners as tens of billions of dollars in office loans come due this year.”
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Contrary
to economic theory, & Nobel laureate, Dr. Milton Friedman and Anna J.
Swartz (“Money and Business Cycles”), monetary lags are not “long & variable”
(A Monetary History of the United States, 1867–1960, published in 1963).
The
lags for monetary flows, M*Vt, i.e. the proxies for (1) real-growth, & for
(2) inflation indices (for the last 100 years), are historically, mathematical
constants.
The FED’s transmission mechanism, its target (pegging
interest rates), is indirect, varies widely over time, & in magnitude. What
the net expansion of money will be, as a consequence of a given injection of
additional reserves, or change in policy rates, nobody knows until long after
the fact. The consequence is a delayed, remote, & approximate control over
the lending and money-creating capacity of the banking system.
In other words, given interest rate manipulation as the monetary transmission
mechanism, the private bankers, not the Fed, are capable of exercising Central
Bank powers (when policy uses a price mechanism, pegging interest rates, to
ration Reserve Bank credit).
Money creation is a system’s process. No bank, or a minority group of banks
(from an asset standpoint) can expand credit (create money) significantly
faster than the majority banks expand. And the parameters of economics are not
those of mathematics – the whole is much larger than the sum of its parts.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Lawrence K. Roos, past President, FRB-STL was cited, in the WSJ’s “Notable and Quotable” column, April 10, 1986, as follows:”…I do not believe that the control of money growth ever became the primary priority of the Fed. (i.e., under Volcker). I think that there was always and still is a preoccupation with stabilization of interest rates.”
Economists think banks are intermediaries. Just google it. Ask chat gpt.
Under Powell, the Keynesian economists have achieved their objective, that there is no difference between money and liquid assets.
Economists can’t differentiate between a single bank and the system.
The increased lending capacity of the financial intermediaries is comparable to the increased credit creating capacity of the commercial banks in only one instance; namely, the situation involving a single bank which has received a primary deposit and all newly created deposits flow to other banks in the system.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
the fed redefined M1 and M2 terms in feb 2021 and may 2020. why i like to use shadowstats where mr. williams tries to keep the gauges the old ways. smells to me like we already have stagflation. passes my daily smell test too. back to the 70s stagflation. got bell bottoms?
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
1 year ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
I figure the FED will overshoot its recession target and land us straight into a currency devouring depression. Don’t forget; Krugman says your paranoid if you question their digital currency. Didn’t watch the Mises video on that, but I did read the title. And we all know Krugman is never wrong since they don’t give Nobel Prizes to those who speak wrongspeak.
Carl_R
Carl_R
1 year ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
Just keep in mind that Williams bases his method on how inflation was computed in the 1970’s, which dramatically overstated inflation. Because of the overstated CPI back in those days, social security recipients, whose income is tied to the CPI, saw a doubling of their standard of living in a decade, which caused the dreaded “homes” (warehouses to hold eldery until they passed) of the past to be replaced by much nicer “retirement communities”. The change was quite dramatic, and tied solely to the overstated CPI, as there were no statutory changes to the income of seniors.
Jeff Dog
Jeff Dog
1 year ago
Reply to  Carl_R
The method used in the 70s would not have given a larger CPI every year. For example in the 90’s the difference would have reversed. Williams is really doing the calculation; he assumes that there is a fixed offset in the same direction every year. Switching mortgage payment to owners equivalent rent was done to make the series less volatile. Under the old calculation, raising interest rates would raise CPI sharply in the short term because mortgage rates would go up; CPI was moving the opposite direction to other measures of inflation.
Jeff Dog
Jeff Dog
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeff Dog
I meant to say Williams is NOT really doing the calculation according to the 70s method.
Mish
Mish
1 year ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
Greenspan effectively changed the definition (I believe in 1996) when he allowed Sweeps.
Williams is a hyperinflation nutcase but I am sure he is right about some things. I ignore him because he is wrong about most things.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
Tapestry bell bottoms, but I can’t fit into ’em any more.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Lacy Hunt lacks an adequate knowledge of money and central banking. M2 is mud pie (as Greenspan said). But Hunt is right about the worrisome drop in bank credit.
From the standpoint of the system, banks don’t lend deposits. Deposits are the result of lending/investing. Hence, all bank-held savings are lost to both consumption and investment, indeed to any type of payment or expenditure. It’s stock vs. flow. That’s why Dr. Philip George’s “The Riddle of Money Finally Solved” works. “For nearly a century the progress of macroeconomics has been stalled by
a single error, an error so silly that generations to come will scarcely
believe that it could have persisted for as long as it has done.” & “The logic was that such precautionary holdings are not intended to be
spent and hence do not qualify as money.”
Dr. Leland Pritchard said the same thing 30 years ago (Ph.D. Economics, Chicago 1933, M.S. Statistics, Syracuse)
Rothbard-Salerno, money supply measure (TMS) is more accurate in that it excludes small time deposits.
Divisia aggregates shows a contraction, negative rate of growth, too. But the shifting of deposits from the banks to the MMMFs activates monetary savings, increasing velocity. It increases the supply of loan funds, but not the supply of money. Aggregate demand is still too high in the 1st qtr. I.e., N-gDp is too high. But the trend is decelerating.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
1 year ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
“Lacy Hunt lacks an adequate knowledge of money and central banking. M2 is mud pie”
Hardly.
Dr Hunt’s call will prove to be dead-on.
Your calls —> stagflation baked in … prices will rebound June 2023 + housing inventory shortage … will prove to be … dead.
MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 year ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
It’ time for Thunderdome! Two men enter, one man leaves.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45v2
We’ll find out sooner rather than later where things go.
If wrong, I’ll give a mea culpa with a tip of the hat.
Fwiw, the “process” (so far) more or less as I game planned years ago. My error in 2022 (that recession would start in June) based on assuming financial conditions would tighten when Federal Reserve started with QT + rate hikes (in March). Financial conditions EASED thru Q2 and Q3 … did not begin to tighten till Q4.
Christoball
Christoball
1 year ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
“Money creation is a system’s process. No bank, or a minority group of banks
(from an asset standpoint) can expand credit (create money) significantly
faster than the majority banks expand. And the parameters of economics are not
those of mathematics – the whole is much larger than the sum of its parts.”………….”From the standpoint of the system, banks don’t lend deposits. Deposits
are the result of lending/investing. Hence, all bank-held savings are
lost to both consumption and investment, indeed to any type of payment
or expenditure.”
You more than anyone has taught me that ****Banks Do Not Lend Deposits, but that Deposits are the result of Lended/Borrowed money being deposited. ****
The Real Estate Booms creation of money is gone. This was probably the biggest source of New Borrowed Money Deposits. Deposits are not just held but a certain amount is spent as well. In a Real Estate Boom a lot of the Borrowed Money is used to purchase more Real Estate further growing the Piggy Bank. A portion of this money does get spent and circulated. Not all of it is held.
No matter what the rules are, Financial cycles are going to run their course because of the Nature of Depraved Humanity. This is why business cycles are nothing new.
With America outsourcing manufacturing; the growth or stunting of our economy is kind of a One Trick Pony: Real Estate Booms and Busts. Real Estate Sales are the primary source of New Deposits. When that carpet gets yanked on Real Estate the economy goes Topsy-Turvy until the start of the next cycle. Yes Money Creation is a Systems Process, and that System is in Decline.
Sometimes the America Economy reminds me of one of those resort towns where the primary industry is selling Real Estate.
MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 year ago
I think Lacy Hunt needs to read “The End of The World Is Just The Beginning” by Peter Zeihan. The author makes a compelling case for the next three geopolitical stages of humanity:
1. De-Globalization – Already underway since Covid…
2. De-Industrialization – The next stage starts when de-globalization is in full swing. Without the access to cheap labor and raw materials that globalization provided, the world slowly de-industrializes.
3. De-Civilization – Some countries will manage fine such as those that can grow their own food but places that are one-trick-ponies such as countries dependent on oil revenues or banana crops will undergo de-civliziation.
All the things Peter lists in his book are inflationary in best case scenario but hyperinflationary in worst case scenario. A key point in the book that most of this is driven by demographics, the aging populations in western countries and China will lead to a lot of chaos moving forward.
Lacy Hunt’s economic policy is probably sound in normal economic conditions but we are entering new territory with 40 million boomers getting free money and healthcare while the remaining (shrinking) workforce picks up the slack. This isn’t just in the US, it’s Europe, large parts of Asia and North America.
I highly recommend the book.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45v2
This one “De-Civilization” is going to be the big problem going forward.
There are a LOT of countries that fall into this category (esp Oil ones) and their populations have exploded in the 20th century (take a look at Nigeria which will have gone from afterthought to >USA population in another decade or so or Egypt / Mexico that’s already starting this process as it’s Oil dries up). Those people won’t quietly starve to death. There will be mass migrations on the order of 10s or hundreds of millions along with the requisite conflicts this creates.
MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
There will be mass migrations on the order of 10s or hundreds of millions along with the requisite conflicts this creates.
that’s already been happening for a long time.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45v2
Right now it’s on the order of maybe 10s of thousands a year.
When it gets 10 or 100x worse is when it will be impossible to ignore.
MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
I guess it depends on your ethnocentric perspective. In 1492 millions of Europeans invaded north america and slaughtered existing millions so it will happen again except the point of origin will likely be different and the “slaughter” is attrition due to age.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45v2
It took hundreds of years for millions to invade the new world. The US population in 1776 was only 2.5 million and that was almost 300 years after Columbus landed and most of those people were descendants, not people newly arriving from Europe.
Most of the millions of native deaths were not via slaughter by new comers. They were killed by disease.
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
It appears that Chicago is already well into the “de-civilization” process.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45v2
There will be no sustained inflation until the massive debt overhang alleviated by
1) write off (jubilee of sorts)
2) pay down
3) write down
MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 year ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Hold my beer.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45v2
De-civilization has started a while ago, not because some places can’t even produce their own bananas. They produce nothing but hungry mouths, and those show up on borders of civilized world.
Jack
Jack
1 year ago
Funny that Lacy says that the risk of a recession continues to rise however recession already started last May 2022.
Look at the charts, it is just showing a swing of commercial credit and other deposit liabilities the other way to balance out the excessive money printing of 2020-21. These charts are % change and show that actual values are just going back to where we were before COVID.
A long recession is upon us but too much money sloshing about for people to notice.

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