Nancy Pelosi Says Donald Trump Has a Right to Prove His Innocence

Casual_Observer2020

3 years ago

The irony of Trump is he is just a poor cheater. If he had learned to funnel money legally, then he would have been like every other politician. Since he is not smart enough to cheat, he is not only going get indicted once, but multiple times, all for different crimes he committed. He doesn’t seem to realize the key difference between most smart people and him is that smart people find legal ways to circumvent or navigate the LAWS OF THE COUNTRY. Trump is not smart.

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Casual_Observer2020

3 years ago

It’s gonna be funny when Trump kills himself and leaves a note blaming someone else for the suicide. This is what all martyrs eventually do.

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WarpartySerf

3 years ago

I think Piglosi has been spending all her time stuffing her pockets ( $250,000,000) with insider trading profits on the back of the American taxpayer…. she won’t waste time learning about American judicial process. Her salary was approximately $120,000 a year , $90,000 take home.

How about jail time for geriatric predators like her and Mitch McConnell …… who’ve stolen around a quarter billion dollars apiece ?

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KidHorn

3 years ago

Nothing will happen to Trump. This is what seems like the 20th attempt by the dems to get rid of him. They all failed. Trump is the most investigated and acquitted politician ever.

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Jojo

3 years ago

Reply to KidHorn

If at first you don’t succeed…

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Lisa_Hooker

3 years ago

Reply to Jojo

Cry, cry again…

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hmk

3 years ago

First, I have lost complete faith in the US justice system, its become a corroupt malevolent political tool for the leftists. Up until now I swore that if Trump somehow won the nomination I would vote third party . Now I will absolutely vote for him if he somehow wins the nomination. I hope he doesn’t never liked him even before he ran for president. He did have a lot of good ideas, like a constituitonal amendment for term limits and draining the swamp. Sadly most of his bucket list items were never executed. We are circling the drain until the swamp is drained. This behavior by the democrats is outrageous. I don’t even understand how this can proceed, its past the statue of limitations. How come Stormy isn’t being prosecuted for extortion, isn’t that illegal?

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hmk

3 years ago

Reply to hmk

BTW isn’t there recourse for Trump to sue based on a malicious prosection law?

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Captain Ahab

3 years ago

Reply to hmk

Yes. However, bringing it in the New York court system would be a waste of time.

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Zardoz

3 years ago

Reply to hmk

You’ve been spoon fed the lies you want to hear by fox, have absolutely no proof of anything you’ve stated, and gotten yourself worked into a tizzy over an obese grifter that wouldn’t micturate on you if you were engulfed in flames. He could have blanket pardoned all those people sitting in jail over Jan 6. Instead he threw them under the bus and uses them as props to gin up sympathy.

Further, you aren’t going to do anything about it. So turn off the TV, calm yourself, and enjoy life. Rage addiction will put you in the grave early.

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hmk

3 years ago

Reply to Zardoz

BTW, FYI I don’t listen to fox they are for the most part neocon lapdogs. You however are a sheep following MSDMC and CNN I would wager. Brainwashed dem to the very end.

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KidHorn

3 years ago

Reply to Zardoz

How could Trump have pardoned anyone sitting in jail because of Jan 6th?

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Jojo

3 years ago

Reply to hmk

When there is so much you that don’t understand, perhaps it would be best to hold back on commenting?

There is actually an old proverb concerning this:

“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.”

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hmk

3 years ago

Reply to Jojo

Ditto to you. Or are you referring to your fellow libtard Zardoz?

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Jojo

3 years ago

Reply to hmk

No, it was directed to you.

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MarkraD

3 years ago

Reply to hmk

If thinking Trump is not exempt of the laws we’re all subject too, lump me in with those two.

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StukiMoi

3 years ago

Reply to hmk

“I have lost complete faith in the US justice system,”

Duh!

What’s a good bit scarier; and what you should really try to get to the bottom off; is how on earth you could ever in your lifetime; assuming you’re not 70+; have had any faith in it at all.

It hasn’t been anything other than a joke and a racket-for-idiots-and-idiots-only for decades upon decades upon decades by now.

But I suppose late is still better than never.

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Casual_Observer2020

3 years ago

Reply to hmk

He did have a lot of good ideas, like a constituitonal (spelling incorrect) amendment for term limits and draining the swamp.

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HIs outgoing idea was to not accept the outcomes of elections and install himself as President.

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LM2022

3 years ago

Trump will skate. I doubt a jury in NYC is going to care very much about him paying off a hooker with campaign funds and then lying about it, sounds par for the course in NY.

However, the upcoming indictments for stealing classified docs and interfering in the 2020 election in GA will be harder for him to weasel out of. They better fit him for an orange jump suit now. Extra jumbo!

Lock him up!!

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Captain Ahab

3 years ago

Reply to LM2022

The jury will be 87% democrap. Trump will lose in Manhattan, no matter the law, or facts.

Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but the case is brought under state law and in the state, not Federal, court. It will be appealed after the Manhattan court finds him guilty. The appeal will be heard in the New York State appellate court system (still in New York). It will probably go to the New York Supreme Court, and from there it will go to the US Supreme Court where it will be reversed.

I expect the democraps will try to keep the case from proceeding rapidly, so it is still under appeal in 2024.

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FromBrussels2

3 years ago

Reply to LM2022

What about Brandon’s secret documents ? Conveniently forgot about them ?

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astroboy

3 years ago

This should work in Trump’s favor. It makes it alot more difficult for him to get a fair trial. Basically amounts to Pelosi saying he’s guilty. I’ll cut her some slack, though. I don’t think she’s playing with a full deck anymore.

I’m not clear on any of this. I know it’s illegal in most states to give money to a hooker for sex. Is it illegal to give money to a hooker to shut up?

Trump is not my favorite guy. What concerns me is how it makes the US look to the world. No wonder China thinks (correctly, I’d say) that the US is in decline. That’s bad for everyone, including China, when they decide to invade Taiwan.

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Zardoz

3 years ago

Reply to astroboy

And if he runs around a tree 3 times and yells “do over” he’s innocent.

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Captain Ahab

3 years ago

Reply to Zardoz

Proving yet again that ignerants has no limit…

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astroboy

3 years ago

Reply to Zardoz

I didn’t mean to imply that Trump wasn’t guilty. No one can know either way since the indictment is sealed. I really don’t care about Trump, but I do care about how it makes the US look. Like, today barricades are up around the Capitol. Like they were for the State of the Union and when Trump said he’d be arrested. How does that look to the world? Living in DC, I can say it looks pretty bad to us locals.

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MarkraD

3 years ago

Reply to astroboy

Hat tip for acknowledging the greater reality vs picking a side and rooting for the home team.

Trump epitomizes abuse of office and political corruption, the US is in desperate need of a spring cleaning.

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Casual_Observer2020

3 years ago

Reply to astroboy

You aren’t clear for sure. The difference between law-abiding people running for elections and Trump is only one of them reads the election rules and laws and complies. It is funny watching a guy who repeatedly called himself smart not know simple election laws about how to funnel money legally to people. The last guy that got caught for this is John Edwards but he was smart enough to let donors funnel the money legally and walked. Trump is not that smart.

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Rbm

3 years ago

Sure everything in politics is politically motivated. This is no exception. Im ok with it. Sure if the republicans can find something on Biden im ok with that also. Imo politicians do not seem to be able to regulate themselves. Whatever happened to the congress people that used their inside info on covid and sold their stocks making millions. Only to buy back at the bottom. Both rep and dem need to focus on better quality candidates. .

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Doug78

3 years ago

The Democrats have taken France as an example on how to handle the Right and ensure that the Left remains in power forever. They want to use Trump as the French Socialists used LePen since Mitterand. They believe that by encouraging Trump and his supporters they can alienate enough of those in the center from voting Republican and use that specter in every election. The decision of the Grand Jury on Trump was not a purely local move but part of a strategy. It inflames the the Republicans enough to maybe get them to elect him as a candidate and the Democrats then expect to be able to sweep in with support from the independents. Bill Clinton only got into office because Ross Perot split the Republicans and now the Democrats want Trump to be their Ross Perot.

https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-fight-fascism-by-arresting-political-opponents

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randocalrissian

3 years ago

Reply to Doug78

To add to that, how unlikely is it that Pelosi snipes from the sidelines and triggers the right en masse? Personally I think it’s hilarious since she is older than dirt. Does anyone really think she believes someone in a US court is required to prove innocence before their accusers are required to prove guilt? I think Justin Amash fell for a ruse. All part of the game in Washington. It’s sad it has come to this but neither party is capable of doing better, else they’d be doing better.

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Zardoz

3 years ago

Reply to Doug78

The right did it for them, by going total crazypants. The right is a victim of its own cult.

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Doug78

3 years ago

Reply to Zardoz

Ready to pay your share of the reparations for slavery? It will only cost you twenty years of salary.

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Zardoz

3 years ago

Reply to Doug78

Nobody’s paying reparations, and you know it. That was a city council meeting of kooks that has no power to do anything.

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Doug78

3 years ago

Reply to Zardoz

Ans which party do they belong to? SF is a major city.

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Jojo

3 years ago

Reply to Doug78

“The decision of the Grand Jury on Trump was not a purely local move but part of a strategy.”

Indeed it was. I was watching a newscast where one of the talking heads
stated that the indictment of Trump was unprecedented and that indictments for
some of the other investigations Trump is under would have made for better cases.

What was missing from this statement was the understanding
that some prosecutor had to go first. There has been much talk over the past months that all of the prosecutors investigating Trump were afraid to
stand-up against the strong probability of vitriol by Trump and his base. It is entirely possible that the NY
prosecutor chose to go first as the icebreaker, if you will.

Now, the other indictments under possible offer can go
forward w/o any of the prosecutors fearing that they might be attacked for breaking previous protocol in indicting a former
president or fear of how history would remember them.

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Captain Ahab

3 years ago

Reply to Jojo

Note that the biased DOJ already considered Trump’s various alleged misdoings and moved on, because reasonable doubt remained.

One might conclude that Bragg is misusing the legal system of New York state for political gain. Surely an elected DA is smarter than that–and indeed Bragg seems to be… Trinity School, a Harvard College graduate, plus a JD from Harvard Law School.. clerking for judges, etc, and working for high-visibility firms.

Interestingly, he also prosecuted a store clerk for defending himself in a violent assault, and then backed down when public opinion turned in favor of the store clerk…

One thing seems clear: Bragg was politically motivated in the cases he has previously dealt with. Keeping in mind Bragg does not prosecute cases of prostitution, but he does prosecute Trump for availing himself–there seems to be a clear case of political bias

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Jojo

3 years ago

Reply to Captain Ahab

You do not know what is in the indictment yet. Best not to armchair lawyer in advance.

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Dr Funkenstein

3 years ago

Trump’s big mistake was right at the beginning he decided not to prosecute Hillary and let her prove her innocence in court (has a scientist decided if Hillary is a woman?). It showed to Democrats that he was weak and willing to work with them. To dictators weakness is the worst thing you can be…they will walk all over you..and Democrats are evil malignant people…even worse than Republicans which says something

Not unprecedented…Woodrow Wilson put Eugène Debs in jail because Debs dared to object to sending 1 million troops to Europe to fight for Serbia’s right to murder the heir of the Austrian-Hungarian throne and to save the bankers dumb enough to give loans to people that gave the world Passenchendale and Verdun….and lied about how successful they were.

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8dots

3 years ago

Reply to Dr Funkenstein

Trump biggest mistake was not to stop Nancy the Ripper, from day one, since his first/last State Of The Union. He had to cut his losses on the spot and not let them run.

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randocalrissian

3 years ago

Reply to 8dots

Picking Trump’s biggest mistake is a very complex task, there are so many easily avoided blunders to choose from.

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Zardoz

3 years ago

Reply to randocalrissian

What has he done right?

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Captain Ahab

3 years ago

Reply to Zardoz

Um, made NATO members pay their fair share.

Um, limited illegal immigration.

Um, called out global warming/climate change for the boondoggle it really is…

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Captain Ahab

3 years ago

Reply to Dr Funkenstein

Had Trump done what you advise, he would have set a precedent. Now, the democraps have set a precedent, and it WILL haunt them.

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Zardoz

3 years ago

Reply to Captain Ahab

Always with the bogeyman…

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Captain Ahab

3 years ago

Reply to Zardoz

Let me spell it out for you…

Now that Trump has been charged, next up is to charge the Bidens, including Uncle Joe. At that point, the entire democrap narrative is destroyed.

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Zardoz

3 years ago

Reply to Dr Funkenstein

Hillary? All Hilary has done is sit back, laugh at his antics, and say “itoljaso”.

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CzarChasm Reigns

3 years ago

Hey, Trump said he is “completely innocent” and who wouldn’t believe him?

Democrats just don’t seem to understand that Trump came down from on high via the golden escalator to sell them T-shirts too.

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Lisa_Hooker

3 years ago

Reply to CzarChasm Reigns

Sheesh! The red hats! Don’t forget the red hats!

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8dots

3 years ago

Iran Hezbollah & Syria might retaliate and start a new front. Tighten your seat belts.

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8dots

3 years ago

Macron and Bibi should learn from Trump experience.

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Captain Ahab

3 years ago

This is exactly what is meant by the term, Trump Derangement Syndrome. Irrational hatred is so great that clear thinking is impossible. And the real problem… how many democraps believe Trump should be tried and convicted on a non-existent crime.

Lets not forget that the jury will be selected from a population that is 87% democrap. Fair trial? Hell NO!

This time, the riots will make Jan 6 look like a picnic in the park.

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Zardoz

3 years ago

Reply to Captain Ahab

Crimes is what this is about. Not trumpletantrums.

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Captain Ahab

3 years ago

Reply to Zardoz

Um, what exactly is the crime? Please state the relevant state statute.

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Jojo

3 years ago

Reply to Captain Ahab

“This time, the riots will make Jan 6 look like a picnic in the park”

And hopefully many will wind up in jail. Too many people talk big about fighting the police & military with their pea shooters or rioting because they disagree with something (and this applies to both sides of the political fence). Whether you feel you were legally wronged or not, getting arrested and convicted in court will upend many people’s lives, resulting in potential loss of your job, your assets, your marriage, your life.

——–

1,000 people have been charged for the Capitol riot. Here’s where their cases stand

March 25, 20235:00 AM ET

More than two years after rioters stormed the U.S. Capitol, prosecutors have now charged more than 1,000 people in relation to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack.

These hundreds of people encompass “the most wide-ranging investigation” in the history of the Justice Department. NPR has been tracking every case related to the attack as they move through the court system, from the initial arrest to sentencing.

…

An overview of the cases so far

Number of people charged, federal: 994

Number of people charged, D.C.: 24

Number of people who have pleaded guilty: 541

Number of individuals who have had jury or bench trials: 67

The number convicted on all charges: 42

The number acquitted on all charges: 1

The number with mixed verdicts: 24

Number of people sentenced: 445

The percentage of people sentenced who have received prison time: 58

The median sentence for those who received prison time, in days: 60

The prison sentence range: 7 days to 10 years

The number of cases dismissed: 5 federal; 8 D.C. Superior Court

What are the judges saying to the defendants at sentencing?

Nearly all of these cases are being heard by 21 judges in the federal district court in Washington, D.C. They were appointed by presidents from both parties from President Reagan to President Biden.

…

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/25/1165022885/1000-defendants-january-6-capitol-riot

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Captain Ahab

3 years ago

Reply to Jojo

You (and NPR) conveniently leave out the pressure brought to bear on defendants to plead guilty, and their lack of access to exonerating evidence, including such things as videotapes.

So lets dissect your numbers and see NPR for the krap that it is?

No of people charged: 1,018 (state and fed)

No convicted on all or some charges: 42 + 24 = 66

No who plead guilty: 541 (This leaves 477 who plead not guilty)

NOTE: Of those 477, only 66 have been convicted. What happened to the rest… THAT WOULD BE 405 (one person was acquitted and 5 cases were dismissed).

After two years and three months, what happened to the Sixth Amendment: the right to a speedy trial? How many are still in jail? How many are released and waiting trial?

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Jojo

3 years ago

Reply to Captain Ahab

Doesn’t matter. 541 people capitulated and plead guilty and will suffer some sort of sentence. Many of their lives are now destroyed (see above). Thanks Trump…? They thought they were playing a game. That they could talk trash, trample the Capitol building and Trump would protect them. Sorry suckers. [lol]

Although I am 100% confident that Trump will pardon every one of them if he gets reelected.

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Directed Energy

3 years ago

We are definitely headed on a path to Civil War II

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Zardoz

3 years ago

Reply to Directed Energy

Meal Team Six will be liquidated in days if they try it.

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Jojo

3 years ago

Reply to Directed Energy

[ROFLOL]

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GruesomeHarvest

3 years ago

Idiot Trump did not pardon Edward Snowden or Julian Assange. He did speak up for or pardon those accused in the FBI instigated Jan. 6 breech of the Capital building. Karma’s a bitch!

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Doug78

3 years ago

Reply to GruesomeHarvest

I bet Snowden regrets his decision to go to Russia now.

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Zardoz

3 years ago

Reply to Doug78

Wasn’t a smart one at the outset.

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TexasTim65

3 years ago

Reply to Doug78

Not a chance.

He’d be rotting in Gitmo right now if he didn’t. He never would have gotten to trial just like all the other political prisoners held there. The same goes for Assange.

And if you do somehow go to trial it’s not the regular courts but a military one where the burden of proof is entirely different and virtually no one accused ever gets off.

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Doug78

3 years ago

Reply to TexasTim65

He was a US citizen so no Gitmo for him. Much of what he said was already known or suspected. If he had been smart he would have figured out how to expose it with a minimum danger for himself. If he had he would be a hero whistleblower to many now and probably rich too with book deals and speaking tours. Instead he panicked and fled to our second biggest enemy and destroying all his credibility. Assange is a different matter being Australian, not a journalist and exposed not selectively by just by downloading an entire database. That is akin more to pirating than whistleblowing. He will have his day in court.

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Jojo

3 years ago

Reply to Doug78

His life has already been destroyed but he will still be sent to jail for a long time. Spitting in the face of government authorities is a losing proposition.

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Lisa_Hooker

3 years ago

Reply to Doug78

Snowden’s intent was not Russia.

He was transiting Russia when the US State Department revoked his passport and he couldn’t go anywhere without papers.

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Jojo

3 years ago

Reply to Lisa_Hooker

The USA would have taken him back. But he would have been convicted and imprisoned.

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Lisa_Hooker

3 years ago

“Prove innocence.”

Nothing could more clearly expound the Democratic mindset.

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GruesomeHarvest

3 years ago

Reply to Lisa_Hooker

The Democrats are a shrill, nasty, and vindictive bunch, devoid of reason or wisdom.

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randocalrissian

3 years ago

Reply to GruesomeHarvest

Every time I eat a baby’s adrenal gland, I get a little more evil. Sometimes there is no better way to respond to such tripe than by owning the paranoid straw men the right has built upon the left’s ground.

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Zardoz

3 years ago

Reply to GruesomeHarvest

That post wasn’t shrill, nasty vindictive, or stupid at all!

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Captain Ahab

3 years ago

Reply to Zardoz

Do you not understand the context of “Prove innocence?” The fact is, GH’s comment is entirely apropos.

In the US, innocence is presumed. “…Beyond a reasonable doubt is the legal burden of proof required to affirm a conviction in a criminal case. In a criminal case, the prosecution bears the burden of proving that the defendant is guilty beyond all reasonable doubt.”

Trump does not need to ‘prove innocence.’ Bragg has brought his uncontested ‘facts’ to a grand jury. There is no defense at a grand jury. In court, Bragg will have his case ripped apart. He will look like a clown, yet Trump will be found guilty becasue of an 87% democrap jury. Then, the fun begins.

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HippyDippy

3 years ago

Any legislation passed within the last 50 years would tell anyone that Congress knows nothing about the constitution.

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randocalrissian

3 years ago

Reply to HippyDippy

That might be a bit of a sweeping generalization.

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HippyDippy

3 years ago

Reply to randocalrissian

I was being charitable. Can you name a piece of legislation that shows otherwise? There’s been so many rules crafted by the most morally depraved of us to form our moral foundation that I may have missed the one that didn’t prove my point.

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Zardoz

3 years ago

Reply to randocalrissian

Generalizations prevent you from having to actually learn anything. Trumplings love ’em.

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HippyDippy

3 years ago

Reply to randocalrissian

Actually, I’ll go a few steps further to include the Supreme Court. Note how the preamble to the Bill of Rights says our rights were not limited. Among many other points. They were loosely based upon Natural Law. What does the court do every time it rules? It limits those rights. The very principles of the hallowed document that nearly got the writers lynched by the people of Philadelphia are daily spat upon by all of government. And that’s why the slaves love their masters.

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Lisa_Hooker

3 years ago

Reply to HippyDippy

Not always. The recent Roe v Wade reversal by the Supreme Court removes Federal Government compulsion and frees US citizens to be governed by their conscience.

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HippyDippy

3 years ago

Reply to Lisa_Hooker

By my conscious? Or the state’s consious? I live in florida, so we’re only allowed the freedoms DeSantis likes. Which means you get crappy medical weed, though the majority want it legal. And no abortions. Which should be an individual’s choice. But, that decision does qualify on the surface. But if you’ve ever read one of those Supreme Court decisions, you have my sympathy. There’s always a catch.

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Doug78

3 years ago

I find it funny when Democrats say “no one is above the law”.

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Call_Me

3 years ago

Reply to Doug78

Wasn’t that a campaign slogan of a former Arkansas governor?

Call_Me_Al

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Doug78

3 years ago

Reply to Call_Me

That depends on what “is” means.

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Felix_Mish

3 years ago

I wonder when Pelosi stopped beating her husband. I bet she’ll want to prove her innocence, too.

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Captain Ahab

3 years ago

Reply to Felix_Mish

Speaking of innocence, whatever happened to DePape, who allegedly attacked Paul Pelosi? democrap justice!

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Jojo

3 years ago

Reply to Captain Ahab

They are getting his permanent prison cell ready.

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Captain Ahab

3 years ago

Reply to Jojo

Without a trial?

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MarkraD

3 years ago

LOCK HIM UP!!

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Doug78

3 years ago

Reply to MarkraD

You mean Hunter or Joe or both or did you misgender and mean Hillary?

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MarkraD

3 years ago

Reply to Doug78

The only thing that’d top Trump’s last campaign, for entertainment purposes, would be watching him run from prison.

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Doug78

3 years ago

Reply to MarkraD

You mean you will be in prison watching him? What did you do to get into prison? Murder? Rape? Misgendering?

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Captain Ahab

3 years ago

Reply to MarkraD

Of course, you mean Paul Pelosi, for having sex with a minor?

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Jojo

3 years ago

Reply to Captain Ahab

Are Hunter, Joe or Paul currently under investigation by a prosecutor? No. So the answer is Donald J. Trump who IS currently under investigation by 3-4 prosecutors.

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Captain Ahab

3 years ago

Reply to Jojo

A better question is… Why are Hunter, Joe, and Paul NOT under investigation?

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Jojo

3 years ago

Reply to Captain Ahab

Not enough actual evidence?

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TexasTim65

3 years ago

Reply to Jojo

Or rather they don’t do any real investigation until after you leave office. That’s why nothing moved on Trump till he left office.

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Captain Ahab

3 years ago

Reply to Jojo

Or the fix is in… the infamous Hunter laptop is pretty damning if you bother to actually read the emails.

MY comment on Paul Pelosi pertains to proving one’s innocence, and not being presumed innocent..

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bobcalderone

3 years ago

Reply to Captain Ahab

Hey! Let him prove his innocence!!

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Zardoz

3 years ago

Reply to MarkraD

… and deny him hamburders!

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Jojo

3 years ago

Pelosi is an idiot.

LOCK HIM UP!

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