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Nvidia Dives After Posting Record Beat the Street Numbers. Why?

The answer is easy, but analysts are perplexed.

“Largest, Cleanest Beat” Ever

Please consider Analysts Perplexed as Nvidia Fails to Rally after “Largest, Cleanest Beat” Ever

The chipmaker reported revenue that came in $3 billion above guidance for the second consecutive quarter and issued outlook that was $5 billion ahead of consensus. Management also guided for growth in every quarter this year, with momentum expected to continue into 2027. Still, shares are down more than 3% in early Thursday trade.

“We aren’t sure what else investors want to hear at this point,” Bernstein analyst Stacy Rasgon siad.

Here’s what Wall Street analysts have to say about Nvidia’s blockbuster earnings report. 

Morgan Stanley analyst Joseph Moore: “Largest, cleanest beat and raise in the history of the semis industry – surpassing the second best, which was NVIDIA 3 months ago. Numbers were at the high end of anyone’s expectations, based on our conversations, yet the stock reaction after hours was muted. We are surprised at that, though we have highlighted that the bigger debates holding the stock back are longer term in nature. We would continue to argue that the long term also looks pretty good, while conceding that the growth next year will still be somewhat capital markets driven.”

Raymond James analyst Simon Leopold: “We are a little perplexed by the muted stock response. Demand remains robust and operational execution is impressive.”

Stifel analyst Ruben Roy: “Our fundamental thesis is reinforced: compute has become the primary revenue-generating “factory” for the global economy, and NVDA’s one-year product cadence (Vera Rubin 2H delivery) provides a multi generational lead. We think GTC in March will offer longer-term outlook, likely more impactful to the stock.” 

BofA analyst Vivek Arya: “The muted stock reaction post-print is likely on continued market concerns around AI disruption (fatigue), greater upside from networking vs. compute in the reported quarter, and no additional update to the $500bn+ in CY25/26 data center sales. However, we view this as short term noise, and trading at just 24x/18x CY26/27E PE (or <0.5x PEG vs Mag-7 peers at 1.5x+), the stock presents a compelling valuation.”

Barclays analyst Tom O’Malley: “More news likely to come from the recent Groq acquisition at GTC, which can potentially help break the stock free from the paralysis… This is the most interesting name in the group.”

Nvidia (NVDA) is down about 5.34 percent as I type.

Q: Why?
A: The stock was priced well beyond perfection.

Had Nvidia missed, it probably would have plunged 20 percent or more.

Look at those analyst comments above. Is there any major mainstream analyst not bullish on the company?

Circular Deals

Nvidia is facing scrutiny over allegations of employing “circular financing” (or “round-tripping”), where the company allegedly invests in or lends money to AI startups and cloud providers (e.g., OpenAI, CoreWeave), which then use those funds to purchase Nvidia’s GPUs. Analysts worry this creates artificial revenue growth and inflates AI demand.

AI Overview of the Controversy

  • The Mechanism: Nvidia invests heavily in companies like OpenAI and CoreWeave, which are simultaneously the largest customers for their H100/B200 chips.
  • Concerns: Critics argue this, similar to historical telecom bubbles, creates a high-risk ecosystem where the “growth” is just money circulating between firms. If the cash flow stops or AI monetization fails, the entire chain could collapse.
  • Nvidia’s Stance: Nvidia has denied these claims, providing a seven-page memo to analysts arguing they do not rely on such arrangements to grow revenue.
  • Evidence Cited by Critics: High Days Sales Outstanding (DSO) (a measure of how long it takes to collect payment) suggesting “phantom revenue” and extreme customer concentration, with a massive percentage of revenue coming from a few heavily-invested partners. 

Nvidia Denial

On November 29, 2025. Yahoo!Finance reported Nvidia says it isn’t using ‘circular financing’ schemes. 2 famous short sellers disagree.

Nvidia (NVDA) sent a memo to Wall Street analysts over the weekend arguing that it is not engaged in vendor financing, a controversial practice in which suppliers invest in or extend loans to their own customers.

Famed short sellers Jim Chanos and Michael Burry aren’t so sure.

Nvidia wrote a seven-page document — first reported by Barron’s on Tuesday morning — rebuffing claims that it invests in its own customers to inflate its revenue. The memo was written in response to a newsletter from a little-known Substack author last week claiming that the $5 trillion AI chipmaker is engaged in a “circular financing scheme” — using vendor financing to boost sales — drawing parallels between Nvidia and famous dot-com era accounting frauds committed by Enron and Lucent.

Chanos, who is famous for predicting the fall of Enron, thinks the comparison between Nvidia and Lucent bears weight.

“They’re [Nvidia is] putting money into money-losing companies in order for those companies to order their chips,” Chanos told Yahoo Finance in an interview.

Nvidia has invested heavily in its own customers — from ChatGPT developer OpenAI (OPAI.PVT) to Elon Musk’s xAI (XAAI.PVT) to a slew of AI cloud firms, including CoreWeave (CRWV) and Nebius (NBIS) — and those investments have raised eyebrows on Wall Street.

“NVIDIA does not resemble historical accounting frauds because NVIDIA’s underlying business is economically sound, our reporting is complete and transparent, and we care about our reputation for integrity,” Nvidia wrote in its memo, which was obtained by Yahoo Finance.

“[U]nlike Lucent, NVIDIA does not rely on vendor financing arrangements to grow revenue,” the company continued. Nvidia noted that in typical vendor financing agreements, customers pay back suppliers over years. Meanwhile, the chipmaker said its customers pay the company within 53 days after purchasing its chips.

A Guide to the Circular Deals Underpinning the AI Boom

Bloomberg has a January 22, 2026 article, A Guide to the Circular Deals Underpinning the AI Boom

ChatGPT kicked off the AI boom, but it was a landmark partnership between its developer OpenAI and software giant Microsoft Corp. that laid its financial foundations.

This playbook has been repeated by the AI community ever since. Cloud computing companies and chipmakers — Nvidia Corp. chief among them — have helped to fund leading AI developers, which in turn became some of their largest customers.

The result is an increasingly interconnected web of dependencies between technology manufacturers and AI startups. The risk with these “circular” deals is that they can create skewed incentives that may lead to bad decision making and magnify losses if demand for AI fails to match today’s lofty expectations. The stakes are high as the AI boom has sucked in gargantuan sums of money from debt and equity markets and buoyed multiple industries.

What makes a deal circular?

The term typically refers to an arrangement in which one company invests in another firm that buys its products and services: By doing so, the businesses effectively bind their fortunes more tightly to one another. (A circular deal is different from a fraudulent “round-trip” transaction, a term regulators have used for sham trades with no economic substance that are designed to inflate reported results.)

Circularity can be a winner for all involved if things go well: Company A buys a stake in Company B, giving Company B more money to invest and expand so that, in the end, it needs more of Company A’s products and services. When demand is rising and capital is readily available, the combination of investments and purchase commitments can act like a flywheel.

So what’s the problem?

If revenue from AI products does not grow as much or as fast as expected, company B might find itself staring at untenable bills for data center capacity and hardware. Company A loses twice — company B stops buying its products and its stake in company B tumbles in value.

Circular deals don’t just increase the potential damage to the companies in a market downturn. They can also skew the balance of incentives to encourage bad decision making. A company that has one of its suppliers as a major shareholder may be more likely to keep buying its stuff whether or not it makes commercial sense. That increases the risk of money being spent to secure business that fails to materialize. The circularity can be most risky when a handful of buyers are responsible for a large share of the market — as is the case with AI.

Here we go again?

During the internet boom of the late 1990s, fiber optic networks were built on the promise of relentless growth. Equipment makers helped to fuel the expansion with vendor financing — loans and other support that allowed telecommunication service providers to sustain the heavy investments.

When demand forecasts fell short and prices for transporting internet data sank, the model broke: Heavily leveraged carriers slashed spending and some filed for bankruptcy. Much of the capacity sat underused for years as the industry consolidated.

As the market softened, some carriers also relied on “capacity swaps,” selling one another rights to network capacity and recording the transactions as sales, even when the deals largely washed out because the parties were buying similar capacity from each other. In the early 2000s, US Congressional investigators examined this tactic at carriers including Qwest and Global Crossing. Both companies later moved to restate revenue tied to some swap deals.

Paul Kedrosky, a venture capitalist who covered networking and communications companies as a technology analyst during the telecom boom, said AI capital spending is climbing toward levels last seen at the peak of the late-1990s fiber-optic buildout. In some cases, he said, the risk is that facilities using today’s semiconductor chips will become obsolete before they’ve made a return on investment.

This Isn’t Fraud

Nvidia isn’t Enron, Global Crossing, or WorldCom.

It will remain profitable even if it the some businesses supporting it default on payments.

But how long can this growth go on with AI-Related companies that have zero earnings?

One never knows the answer to questions like the above, until hindsight. But we can say that sell the news to record beat-the-the street, beyond perfection, numbers is seldom any good.

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wayne cerne
wayne cerne
2 months ago

It’s kind of funny how Micron (Samsung, SK Hynix and Sandisk) is selling to all of these players at inflated prices and receiving cash. I am amused because it is becoming the great tech wealth transfer (retained earnings from tech going to memory). The AI world needs to start monetizing AI which I think they will do when companies implement AI solutions. I suspect they will charge per inquiry. Companies will cut employees and use much of that savings to pay for the customized AI service. They need speed so that AI can think quickly. You will speak with customer service and not even realize they are AI. Also, I know first-hand, that AI will make fewer mistakes than humans so companies will reduce costs beyond just labor costs. AI is real. As far as the NVDA house of cards, if AI plays out successfully, they will be fine, if it does not, the house of cards will fall and a lot of people will lose a lot of money.

notmsn
notmsn
2 months ago

Seems to me that a large part of the problem is that the scale of current/future chip sales plus the investment in it’s own customers acts as a disincentive for them to continue to innovate.

Most customers have these chips on their books with a 5-6 year lifetime.

If NVidia comes out with an improved chip with a better compute/power ratio then the effective value and lifetime of the installed base immediately is degraded.

This acts as a brake on it’s core mission and is likely to hurt it’s competitive advantage.

wayne cerne
wayne cerne
2 months ago
Reply to  notmsn

Then other startups outside of the NVDA universe can buy AMD…..the pressure will come from competition from AMD.

Columbo
Columbo
2 months ago

For now, the NVDA chart looks calm and is digesting previous gains.

Todd
Todd
2 months ago

Just follow what Buffet is doing – record cash holdings. It’s all you need to know.

Augustine
Augustine
2 months ago
Reply to  Todd

No, don’t follow the Buffoon, ever. You don’t belong to his club. Dollars are a liability. Hold physical gold, instead.

wayne cerne
wayne cerne
2 months ago
Reply to  Augustine

I have consistently beaten buffet since I retired. I looked at his portfolio, it is way overrated (at least his public investments).

Rob
Rob
2 months ago

AI is here to stay and will get bigger and more integrated in our lives. But just like the internet in 2000, some big players are going to vanish. Sounds like NVdia is doing with circular investments what Nortel did with customer loans back then.Nortel was spectacularly profitable and made a lot of equipment that became the backbone of what we have today. At one point the stock represented 40% of Canadian index market cap and then disappeared…

One only needs the read Charles Mackay’s 1841 book “Extraordinary Popular Delusions and Madness of Crowd” to understand that we never learn.

Webej
Webej
2 months ago

Circularity ‘The end is in the beginning’

john
john
2 months ago

When a top valuation stock with apparent good numbers slides on the news then maybe it’s a hint were at a top ? Market volatility might have just been triggered.

Call_Me_Al
Call_Me_Al
2 months ago

Terrific analysis!

One thought to add in response to this quote:

““We aren’t sure what else investors want to hear at this point,” Bernstein analyst Stacy Rasgon siad.”

Perhaps Stacy should consider that most are traders, not investors, and the crowd (or their stops) rushed to sell the news. ‘Investing’ ain’t what it used to be.

Last edited 2 months ago by Call_Me_Al
ColoradoAccountant
ColoradoAccountant
2 months ago

Being old, heading to elderly, AI sounds like a wolf in sheeps clothing, or the second coming of the Internet. I understand why it is not a done deal.

Greenhawks
Greenhawks
2 months ago

Dump that stock B4 you lose everything it is going down further

I’m back robbyrob
I’m back robbyrob
2 months ago
Frosty
Frosty
2 months ago

In the US it is power generation that limits the AI growth story.

We need thousands of GWs of new generation to power AI and it is not happening at a scale that remotely matches the chip supply.

China on the other hand is building thousands of GW’s of solar, natural gas, hydro, wind and even a few coal power generation. Their solar alone will provide over 300 GW’s this year and 1,000 by 2028 annually. This is a massive part of the demand for silver that is stripping the west of physical silver. We are now in the sixth year of inventory drawdowns and industry, medicine and stackers will exceed production by around 300 million ounces.

Copper is in high demand as well so consider adding to miners if you want to capture your AI gains and re-deploy into PM’s.

10% is a good start for balance in any portfolio historically.

Greenhawks
Greenhawks
2 months ago
Reply to  Frosty

Thatz there problem and if ai gets stopped or slowed down thatz great they should have to pay more for power as ai corporations are energy hogs

PapaDave
PapaDave
2 months ago
Reply to  Greenhawks

Nope. It’s everyone’s problem. AI companies will spend the money and build as much off-grid generation as they can using ALL available wind, solar, and gas resources, exclusively for themselves. Which will leave nothing for the utilities, leading to electricity shortages and higher prices for consumers.

Greenhawks
Greenhawks
2 months ago
Reply to  PapaDave

I cannot! Stop and it is you again too repetitious and very foolish

peter
peter
2 months ago
Reply to  Frosty

It is not power limiting AI growth. It is the lack of usefulness of the product. All my daily internet reads off free AI. I used it once and got back an answer so self-servingly wrong, that I haven’t used it again.

Jojo
Jojo
2 months ago

This is interesting for AI futures also:

AI Is Acing Math Exams Faster Than Scientists Write Them

Rapid advances are rendering benchmarks obsolete in record time

Benjamin Skuse

25 Feb 2026

Mathematics is often regarded as the ideal domain for measuring AI progress effectively. Math’s step-by-step logic is easy to track, and its definitive automatically verifiable answers remove any human or subjective factors. But AI systems are improving at such a pace that math benchmarks are struggling to keep up.

Way back in November 2024, non-profit research organization Epoch AI quietly released FrontierMath. A standardized, rigorous benchmark, Frontier Math was designed to measure the mathematical reasoning capabilities of the latest AI tools.

“It’s a bunch of really hard math problems,” explains Greg Burnham, Epoch AI Senior Researcher. “Originally, it was 300 problems that we now call tiers 1–3, but having seen AI capabilities really speed up, there was a feeling that we had to run to stay ahead, so now there’s a special challenge set of extra carefully constructed problems that we call tier 4.”

To a rough approximation, tiers 1–4 go from advanced undergraduate through to early postdoc level mathematics. When introduced, state-of-the-art AI models were unable to solve more than 2% of the problems FrontierMath contained. Fast forward to today and the best publicly available AI models, such as GPT-5.2 and Claude Opus 4.6, are solving over 40% of FrontierMath’s 300 tiers 1–3 problems, and over 30% of the 50 tier 4 problems.

https://spectrum.ieee.org/ai-math-benchmarks

Last edited 2 months ago by Jojo
Greenhawks
Greenhawks
2 months ago
Reply to  Jojo

Embrace it do not worry you worry too much haha lighten up

rjd1955
rjd1955
2 months ago

It might be that some are considering Chinese developed ‘photonic’ chips to be the wave of the future. Much faster and much less energy intensive. It remains to be seen how fast these can be put into production. Consider the one-year rapid advance of Chinese robotics as put on display a couple of weeks ago by the kung-fu robots celebrating Chinese New Year. Incredible agility.

China’s light-based AI chips beat NVIDIA GPUs at some tasks by 100x

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
2 months ago
Reply to  rjd1955

Those robots are impressive… they make Elon’s robot look pretty shabby.

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
2 months ago
Reply to  El Trumpedo

Don’t worry, Elon will have fully self-autonomous robots in 18 months. /s

But yes, those Asian robots, chips, electricity and amazing quality of life seem like the grass is greener on the other side.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
2 months ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

Surpassed by China without a whimper.

rjd1955
rjd1955
2 months ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

Heck, I want to know how they get the motors/servos to respond so quickly. Truly impressive. I thought the show was AI/CGI generated until I investigated a bit further. Holy smokes!

peter
peter
2 months ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

Elon has never met a deadline yet.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
2 months ago
Reply to  peter

He’s lying, thieving scum.

Pedro
Pedro
2 months ago
Reply to  rjd1955

Photonic AI processors were invented at MIT and there are American startups. One is called LightMatter, google ventures put big money into them

Last edited 2 months ago by Pedro
Peace
Peace
2 months ago

Believe it or not.
Here is the another theory by one of my favourite investment professionals/ trading advisors.
Written on Feb 19, 2026

The Pam Bondi Top
 
I teased this in Chart of the Week on Tuesday, but if you missed it, perhaps you saw Pam Bondi at the Epstein hearing deflecting questions by saying that we should be focused on the fact that the Dow Jones Industrial Average was above 50,000.

Gong.

That was the biggest bell-ringing top I have ever seen in the markets. 

Peace
Peace
2 months ago
Reply to  Peace

Sadly, we might not see this kind of professionals in the future as we, human too much depend on AI and it will destroy our talent.

Art Last
Art Last
2 months ago

AI = FRAUD = NVIDIA
AI is just computers, nothing more
We’ve had computers since WWII = nothing new nor groundbreaking.
Computers are getting faster, that’s all.
AI = Lies = Fraud = BUBBLE

Peace
Peace
2 months ago
Reply to  Art Last

Wake up.
Open your eyes.
Now do you see the difference?
You have been sleeping for 25 years.

JeffD
JeffD
2 months ago
Reply to  Art Last

Is the fact that phones can blow chess grandmasters out of the water a fraud? Unfortunately, using AI to automate processes based on codified knowledge is real. The initial versions of chess programs running on supercomputers couldn’t beat grandmasters. Look at those chess programs now.

Pedro
Pedro
2 months ago

Classic “ buy the rumors, sell the news”

Anthony
Anthony
2 months ago

the market is tired. it’s a pretty good sign of this when stock market bellweather posts spectacular results and guidance and still goes down. it’s usually a sign of more downside, where no amunt of good news can make the stock go up

dtj
dtj
2 months ago

“But how long can this growth go on with AI-Related companies that have zero earnings? One never knows the answer to questions like the above, until hindsight.”

It’s going to go on for longer than most people think is possible. My bet is on several months to a year or more before it pops.

Jojo
Jojo
2 months ago
Reply to  dtj

Yup, nothing to see in the AI world. Except stories like this. 30% gain because killing jobs and letting AI do the work!

Dorsey’s Block Fires Nearly Half Of The Company In ‘Massive’ AI Bet, Sending Shares Soaring

Thursday, Feb 26, 2026 – 01:40 PM

One week after WIRED reported that things were pretty dismal over at Jack Dorsey’s payment processing company Block (formerly Square), the company announced that they are cutting 4,000 employees – nearly half of their headcount – in order to invest ‘heavily’ in artificial intelligence tools to run more efficiently, including its own called Goose, Bloomberg reports. 

The news sent shares up over 30% in after hours trade.

“We are taking bold and decisive action here, but we’re doing it from a position of strength,” CFO Amrita Ahuja told Bloomberg, adding “We’re doing it in a way that we believe positions us to move even faster for our customers.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dorseys-block-fires-nearly-half-company-massive-ai-bet-sending-shares-soaring

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
2 months ago
Reply to  Jojo

We always hear about the companies making these bets, and then, nothing.

Jojo
Jojo
2 months ago
Reply to  El Trumpedo

Because they are profiting from their decisions and raking in the $$$ after cutting he meat.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
2 months ago
Reply to  Jojo

Who is?

Jojo
Jojo
2 months ago
Reply to  El Trumpedo

Go ask an AI for examples. I’m not your RA.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
2 months ago
Reply to  Jojo

So nobody you know of.

Greenhawks
Greenhawks
2 months ago
Reply to  Jojo

Don’t worry embrace it

Bam_Man
Bam_Man
2 months ago

Because its ridiculously over-valued (25x sales!!) to begin with?

David Heartland
David Heartland
2 months ago

In my ‘hood, we call these arrangements “Circle Jerks.”

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
2 months ago

Excellent post. 2-Star Mishelin rating issued! I wish we’d get more of this type of post.

NVIDIA’s cracks are actually showing up in the concrete foundation slab.

1. Private equity that funds data centers that buy Nvidia’s chips are floundering.
2. Why are data centers floundering?  It’s become clear that there won’t be enough electricity to power the chips. Some communities are shunning data centers altogether. The electric crunch and shock will show up this year.

https://www.eesi.org/articles/view/data-center-power-demands-are-contributing-to-higher-energy-bills

3. AI may or may not be useful. Lots of debate on whether AI is improving productivity and eliminating jobs or if it’s a toy. I think it’s useful others are doubtful, why invest until the smoke clears?

4. Like the post mentions, other factors include circular investing, overbuilding capacity, under building infrastructure, electricity issues, community issues.

So what to do with Nvidia?  Sell calls and buy puts on rallies, and buy calls and sell puts on corrections and most important of all, have an NVIDIA exit strategy that doesn’t result in losses. 

Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. 

Augustine
Augustine
2 months ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

AI is useful, just not the bees knees that people are hyping about. It’s the hype that leads to malinvestment and that will be destroyed when this bubble bursts. But AI will remain, much like when the Internet bubble burst, a lot of malinvestment was destroyed, but we kept this Internet.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
2 months ago
Reply to  Augustine

Same thing that happened in 2000 with The Information Superhighway.

Remember the iSmell?

Last edited 2 months ago by El Trumpedo
peter
peter
2 months ago
Reply to  Augustine

Could be useful….except it is owned by corporations that will always want to change the result of a negative review, and it will follow the path if Wikipedia…..Propagandapedia.

Augustine
Augustine
2 months ago
Reply to  peter

Many LLMs have open source code, just like the software that powers the Internet, so AI will be useful and those companies will not exist anymore.

Pitcher
Pitcher
2 months ago

If circularity
Then singularity
Else hilarity.
Circularity could work, but it will entail a lot of jobs being lost.
Really curious to see which company/sector bites first.

Jojo
Jojo
2 months ago

People will swarm back in and buy the dip tomorrow. Looking forward to your analysis then.

Business Man
Business Man
2 months ago

This was a great post. Thank you.

David Heartland
David Heartland
2 months ago
Reply to  Business Man

I agree. Mish, you are on it!

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