A Washington Post article says a 17-page Executive Order is in the works.
Trump Activists Seek an Emergency
Please consider this WaPo free link: Trump, seeking executive power over elections, is urged to declare emergency
Pro-Trump activists who say they are in coordination with the White House are circulating a 17-page draft executive order that claims China interfered in the 2020 election as a basis to declare a national emergency that would unlock extraordinary presidential power over voting.
President Donald Trump has repeatedly previewed a plan to mandate voter ID and ban mail ballots in November’s midterm elections, and the activists expect their draft will figure into Trump’s promised executive order on the issue. The White House declined to elaborate on Trump’s plans.
“Under the Constitution, it’s the legislatures and states that really control how a state conducts its elections, and the president doesn’t have any power to do that,” said Peter Ticktin, a Florida lawyer who is advocating for the draft executive order. Ticktin attended the New York Military Academy with Trump and was part of his legal team that filed an unsuccessful 2022 lawsuit accusing Democrats of conspiring to damage him with allegations that his 2016 campaign colluded with Russia.
“But here we have a situation where the president is aware that there are foreign interests that are interfering in our election processes,” Ticktin went on. “That causes a national emergency where the president has to be able to deal with it.”
The emergency would empower the president to ban mail ballots and voting machines as the vectors of foreign interference, Ticktin argued.
The idea of claiming emergency executive powers based on allegations of foreign interference attaches new significance to the administration’s actions to reinvestigate the 2020 election. Trump has never accepted defeat, while never finding evidence of widespread fraud. Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard is leading a review of election security that officials said focuses on foreign influence.
A 2021 intelligence review concluded that China considered efforts to influence the election but did not go through with them.
Ticktin said he’s had “certain coordination” with White House officials but declined to specify, citing safety concerns. But his input has successfully led to a presidential action before. Ticktin represents Tina Peters, a former Colorado county clerk imprisoned on state charges arising from breaking into voting equipment, whom Trump said he pardoned in December. (The presidential pardon did not free Peters from her nine-year prison term because the president has no power over state crimes.)
A White House official said the staff is regularly in communication with a variety of outside advocates who want to share their policy ideas with the president, but any speculation about his actions or announcements is just speculation.
“I have searched the depths of Legal Arguments not yet articulated or vetted on this subject, and will be presenting an irrefutable one in the very near future,” Trump said on social media Feb. 13. “I will be presenting them shortly, in the form of an Executive Order,” he added the same day.
Trump is pressuring Republicans to pass legislation to require proof of citizenship for voter registration and ID to cast ballots. The measure, called the Save America Act, passed the House but faces obstacles in the Senate, where Republican leaders have rejected Trump’s demand to change the chamber’s rules to move the legislation forward.
Trump has said that if the bill fails, he will act unilaterally to impose the changes for the midterms. What that executive order could look like and the draft circulating among activists have not been previously reported.
“There is now clear and compelling evidence from court cases and forensic analysis that these threats have not been mitigated but instead have intensified,” reads the proposed draft, dated April 2025. “This constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States.”
Last June, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) released FBI records showing an initial tip alleging a Chinese effort to produce fraudulent driver’s licenses for mail ballots. Suspicions of Chinese ballots spurred the hunt for bamboo fibers in Arizona ballots during a Republican-led audit in 2021, which reaffirmed Joe Biden’s victory in the state.
Sen. Mark R. Warner of Virginia, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said there is no national emergency.
“We’ve been raising the alarm for weeks about President Trump’s attacks on our elections and now we’re seeing reports that outline how they may be planning to do it,” Warner said in a statement in response to this article. “This is a plot to interfere with the will of voters and undermine both the rule of law and public confidence in our elections.”
Draft Measures
The measures listed in the 2025 draft of the proposed executive order include requiring hand-marked and hand-counted paper ballots, requiring voters to register anew for the 2026 midterms with proof of citizenship, and restricting mail ballots to limited circumstances. The draft also proposes authorizing the Justice Department, U.S. Citizen and Immigration Services, the Social Security Administration and the Postal Service to have a role in identifying ineligible voters.
The draft cites emergency authority from laws including the National Emergencies Act of 1976, the Federal Information Security Modernization Act of 2014 and the Defense Production Act of 1950.
“The conduct of our elections is not for any president to decide. And it must never be manipulated to serve a political agenda,” the League of Women Voters, which brought one of the lawsuits against the 2025 order, said in a statement. “We will challenge any executive action that suppresses voters, undermines free and fair elections, or violates the constitutional framework that protects our democracy.”
A Washington Post-ABC News-Ipsos poll this month found 54 percent of American adults, and 55 percent of independents, oppose Trump’s stated desire for the federal government to take over election administration and vote-counting in certain states. Twenty-three percent of adults said they supported it, and the same proportion said they had no opinion.
There Is an Emergency
Q: What Is the Emergency
A: Republicans are headed to sure midterm defeat and Trump wants to steal the election.
Stop the Steal, Stop Trump
Mike Lee Is a Liar
Elon Musk Is a Liar
The irony is accusing the other side of what you are trying to do.
Chicago Ray Is a Liar
Illegal Executive Order
States Run Elections
In Other News
A Very Dangerous Time
Somehow it is sedition to speak the truth. We are at a very dangerous time when Trump wants to lock up all political opponents. Senate Republicans are silent.
Finally Back to the SAVE Act
My Reply to Senator Lee
A Renewed Push for the SAVE Act
Please note The SAVE Act is Headed to the Senate: A Push to Restrict Voting Access
Congress is moving the SAVE Act suite of bills, which would disenfranchise millions of eligible Americans from registering to vote. This time, they’ve added provisions that would also make it harder to cast one’s ballot. Here is what you need to know.
For the last several months, online supporters of the SAVE Act have partnered with President Trump, Representative Chip Roy (R-TX-21), Senator Mike Lee (R-UT), and even Elon Musk to promote the legislation through social media platforms. The focus has been on spreading mis- and disinformation about voting in our country, largely around non-citizen voting.
Claims that non-citizens participate in federal elections are wildly overdramatized and false. In fact, it is already illegal for non-citizens to register to vote AND cast a ballot in state and federal elections across the country. In 2016, the Brennan Center for Justice found that across 42 jurisdictions with high immigrant populations, there were only 30 cases of suspected noncitizens voting out of 23.5 million votes cast (.0001%). An audit of Georgia voter rolls found that out of 8.2 million registered voters, there were only 9 instances where a noncitizen cast a ballot. Claims that noncitizen voting is a true threat capitalize on racism and fear to promote certain politicians’ agendas.
President Trump has used mis- and disinformation about election security to promote a call to “nationalize elections,” taking the power to administer our country’s elections out of the hands of the thousands of local elections officials across the country. The nationalization of federal elections would be an unconstitutional power grab unlike any we have seen in our country’s history. President Trump has also called for suppressive voter ID requirements in elections and threatened to implement the policy by Executive Order, an act that, much like his previous Order on voting, would be challenged and declared unconstitutional.
The Fraud Scorecard
Arizona: In Maricopa County overseeing voter registration, there was a total of two possible instances of noncitizens voting out of some 2.5 million registered voters.
Utah: 1 registered, 0 voted, 2.1 million registered voters
Idaho: 36 “likely”, voted uncertain, one million voters
Louisiana: 390 noncitizen registrants, 79 of whom had voted in at least one election over the last several decades (out of 2.9 million registrants).
Montana: 23 possible noncitizen registrants (out of approximately 785,000 people registered).
Georgia: A 2024 audit found 20 registered noncitizens (out of 8.2 million registrations).
Michigan: The Macomb County clerk, Anthony Forlini announced to great fanfare that he’d found 15 noncitizens on his county’s voter rolls of over 724,000 registered voters. The incumbent secretary of state, Jocelyn Benson, investigated the 15 files. Three were U.S. citizens, four were previously removed from voter rolls, four were under further investigation and four do seem to be noncitizens.
Fact Sheet
- Noncitizens have nothing to gain—and everything to lose—if they vote illegally.
- It is ILLEGAL for noncitizens to vote in a federal election. As of 1996, federal law
explicitly prohibits noncitizens from casting a ballot in federal elections. - States have multiple systems in place to prevent noncitizen voting, and
noncitizens face HARSH PENALTIES for voting unlawfully.
. Illegally voting in a federal election can result in a fine and up to five years
in prison.
. A noncitizen found guilty of this crime may face deportation and revocation of their legal status under immigration law.
.Falsely claiming U.S. citizenship for the purpose of registering to vote may also result in deportation or denial of future immigration status. - Studies have found no evidence of widespread noncitizen voting in U.S.
elections. - According to the CATO Institute, “noncitizens don’t illegally vote in detectable
numbers,” and claims about noncitizen voter fraud are “bogus.” - A recent search of the Heritage Foundation election fraud database found only 85 cases involving allegations of noncitizen voting from 2002 to 2023.
- A Brennan Center for Justice study of 42 jurisdictions in the 2016 elections found
that votes election officials suspected (not proven) to be cast by noncitizens
accounted for just 0.0001 percent of the total votes cast.
What Problem Is the Save Act Trying to Solve?
Illegals voting is not a real problem. To fix a non-problem (OK a couple hundred out of 174 million people) the bill places a distinct hardship in millions of US citizens, especially women.
Women who had a name change on marriage would no longer have an ID that matched their birth certificate.
Forcing married women to bring in their marriage certificate and birth certificate to vote has an intended consequence.
Women tend to vote Democratic, and the clear purpose is to discourage women from voting.
Unconstitutional
Not only would the SAVE Act disenfranchise or at least burden tens of millions of women, the bill itself is unconstitutional.
The U.S. Constitution delegates the power to set voter qualifications—such as age, residency, and citizenship—to the states, with limited federal overrides via amendments (e.g., the 15th, 19th, and 26th Amendments prohibiting discrimination based on race, sex, or age).
The SAVE act would be unconstitutional. And if Congressional Bill would be unconstitutional, so would an Executive Order.
Polymarket has a betting market on SAVE Act signed into law in 2026?
Odds are holding at 15 percent. Even if the SAVE Act passed, I estimate a 60 percent chance or better the Supreme Court would kill it.
If Trump instead tries to do this by Executive Order, I suspect the odds the Supreme Court strikes the EO as 90 percent.
I congratulate Senate Majority leader John Thune for not killing the filibuster over a bill that deservedly belongs in the gutter for constitutional and other rules.
What Is the Save Act Really About?
I discussed the act on February 17, in Trump’s Voting Claims Are False. So What Is the Save Act Really About?
What’s the SAVE Act Really About?
- Make it harder to vote by mail
- Make it harder for women to register
- Make it harder for minorities to register
That’s it. And it’s obvious.
The TDS people are in a panic.
Declaring an emergency because you know you’re going to get wrecked in the election is definitely a sign of panic!
The Chinese are just a smoke screen. So what is this group really worried about?
I agree that it’s likely women voters.
GOP strategists are worried that they’ve lost a lot of MAGA women. Since early January.
What a shitstorm Trump has brought upon our nation…
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Silver is: $93.50
Expect another credit downgrade of US debt soon.
Let Bezo run the elections.
“Thuth is treason in the empire of lies.” (Ron Paul)
I miss that guy.
where’s the evidence of election fraud?? why can’t they find anything that remotely makes sense and can stand up in court? prosecutors prove fraud all the time in extremely complex cases. Despite looking for years, they don’t have ANYTHING.
it’s not rocket science to track this down if it was happening. So where are the cases, from Republican districts where prosecutors are dying to prove this? where are they??
the notion that regular people could pull off mass election fraud without being detected for years is ridiculous.
Is Zerohedge lying to me? I keep reading that steps are being taken to investigate fraud in the 2020 elections, and that the states are taking legal action to try to stop Trump’s people from examining their records. That seems to suggest guilty knowledge.
The impression I have is that election fraud is workable if you have a situation where enough people in the system have convinced themselves that it is justified. There is always a certain amount of vote-stealing by leftists in old people’s homes and suchlike places, because leftists really believe that they are on the side of history and working for good, and stealing votes for them is justified.
Internal plebiscites and preselections in leftist parties are also often rigged. You know perfectly well that dishonest rules were used against your old (but consistent) leftist, what’s-his-name, to give the preselection to Hillary Clinton in year 2016.
My impression from seeing reports of court decisions about elections and trying to write letters to newspapers critiquing election integrity is that journalists and judges prefer to draw a veil over questionable election results, at least if they benefit leftist parties. They are not honest people.
I have mentioned this in other posts, but I should perhaps say again that I am writing this from Australia, which is why I say “you” and not “we.”
The practical advantages of Australian style mandatory voting (with an option to abstain) far outweigh any libertarian objections. By adopting this approach you avoid all of this nonsense and create an government that actually represents the people.
Also, Internet voting backed by a public ledger also has to be a step forward in gaining trust. Why on earth countries don’t adopt this is beyond me.
Fuck that.
Ah, here’s one now. Doesn’t know a blockchain from an NFT
Sure let’s try the blockchain. That’ll solve everything. Well at least until someone is able to F with it. Then we have an F’d election and there’s total chaos and an excuse for the president to invoke
emergency powers. 1) not everyone may have access to the net. Homeless people, Native Americans, poor folks, people on travel. How do we deal with that? Oh, I know. Let’s have a polling place for them. Or they can mail in a ballot. Whoa! Hold on! We already have that in place. And it works! 2) What happens if you want a recount or audit? You know you don’t have to F with the blockchain. Just mess with the process. You know there are untold numbers of computers with software just hiding on them that do nothing, as yet. Trump himself said that votes were changed with software. Physical, hard copy paper ballots are something everyone can understand and hand count after the fact. As long as we don’t have a 2000 Florida F’up things will be just fine.
People are able to fuck with the existing system 100 different ways. It’s archaic and ridiculous.
Yes, with fraud accounting for somewhere between 1 in 100,000 and 1 in 1M, I can see your concern, not. With paper ballots counted through machines as well as stored for later audit you get the best of both worlds. Everyone’s happy. People aren’t very happy with algorithms right now and trust in elections is pretty damn important.
Blockchain isn’t the issue. I just don’t think it should be illegal to not vote.
Yes they will probably issue their unlawful and unconstitutional executive order and it is a POLL TAX
Regardless of what the pedophile in chief does regarding mail-in ballots he and his band of Gross Old Perverts (GOP) are doomed to a humiliating loss. That does not preclude massive cheating as Trump is prone to do.
Silver remains in a structural supply deficit and will rise in price against a tide of manipulation regardless of CRIMEX based bullshit. Metals are heading physically toward the highest bid and that is continuing to come from Singapore and India.
Physical outflows continue to gain momentum and silver mining stocks remain leveraged to the metal and are supported by spectacular margin improvements..
The Coinage Act of 1792 established the first formal bimetallic standard in the United States, legally defining
the silver-to-gold ratio at 15:1. !
Gold = $5100 – 15 to 1 Gold Ratio – Silver = $350.00
Whatever happens, they will not surrender power peacefully.
Yes till it doesn’t…just like peak oil…
Yes, of course, there are a lot of people here who are bitching that your vote doesn’t count. It’s a great conspiracy theory with nothing to back it up.
Yet.
It’s pretty safe bet that if the GOP comes out looking like roses in November you’re right. I hope you’re won’t because a lot of Democrats have guns too.
80% of Americans don’t want war with Iran, but we might get one anyway. Some of our “representatives” are egging it on and most of the rest are acquiescing to it. Thank God for voting.
both parties are controlled by Israel. Israel wants this war because they can’t take Iran themselves.
Actually, I don’t think they do want it, this time.
GOP, DNC, same bastards, different marketing. But you are only allowed to vote for either, right?
Nonsense, elections in the USA have been regularly stolen for a while.
The American electoral system is intentionally ludicrous, it’s the only country I know of where even to suggest that you need a voter ID is controversial, while in the rest of the world is mandatory.
Europeans have a hard time believing that the “leaders of the free world” use such a ridiculous, crazy system for the most fundamental function of a democratic country.
Here is how it works in a normal country (in this case Italy but it’s basically the same all over Europe): the city you reside in issues to you an “electoral card” which attests that you have the right to vote and says where exactly you are registered to vote (the electoral district, the address of your electoral section and the number of the sub-section). You can vote ONLY there and ONLY with a valid electoral card and a valid ID. The electoral commission in the sub-section checks those documents, checks that your name is on their list, gives you the PAPER ballot(s) and marks you as having voted.
We get as leaders the same globalist pieces of shit that you get, the same dystopian, satanic, suicidal liberal policies and half of the electorate has given up on voting here too but at least the one thing that’s missing here in the usual political circus and in the public discourse are accusations of and doubts about electoral fraud [*].
And now the important part for this article: [*] Since we introduced mail-in ballots that’s not really true anymore and proofs of voter frauds get increasingly found at each elections but the damage is somewhat limited by the fact that mail-in ballots are at the moment reserved to those living abroad.
Mail-in ballots and votes from abroad are also how the EU+UK have been able to rig elections in vassal states like Moldova.
Clown World/the deep state/the swamp/the real ruling elite demand mail-in ballots, no voter ID and vote from abroad and Americans are happy to oblige and be the instruments by which those things are imposed also on the part of the world they still control.
Thank God this shitshow is finally going to end, one way or another…
Although personally I am not opposed to a requirement for voters to show an ID at the polls, the notion that because people aren’t required to do so, there is rampant voter fraud is completely and utterly ridiculous and this can be trivially proven…
If this claim of voter fraud was true then you would see masses of people complaining that they were unable to vote because someone has already voted in their name when they show up at their polling station to vote – which is a situation you practically never hear about. And trust me, if it did happen, then you’d see such angry voters shouting from the rooftop about it on FOX News every 5 minutes on Election Day (which you don’t see).
There is your proof.
In other words your “proof” is that Fox News (which is nothing else than just another bought and paid for outlet for Clown World/the deep state/the swamp/the real ruling elite) isn’t talking about it… LMAO!
You Americans are really something else.
Meanwhile, in the real world, I and my English co-worker and buddy voted in the 2000 US Presidential Election… Just for kicks.
Both of us are ex-expats and at the time we were (legally) living and working in the US and we were based in SoCal. Both of us are not and have never been US citizens.
There is your proof.
sure you did.
…and I even have (very low resolution) photographic evidence of it.
I had recently bought a Samsung SCH-V200 during one of our gigs in East Asia.
It was one of the very first camera phones in the world and as a high-paid engineer in a somewhat related field I was both interested in and could afford to be an early adopter of those “toys”.
Show it
I am not going to waste my time creating a burner e-mail account and a burner cloud account to which upload it and, above all, sharing it here where I have also been posting using one of my real e-mails. And only to satisfy the curiosity of a few randos on the internet who are so out of touch with reality that they ignore that in each US election cycle (and ESPECIALLY Presidential elections) there are MILLIONS of fraudolent votes cast by:
people who are deadpeople who have not actually votedpeople who don’t even know whom they are voting for (e.g. old people in nursing homes or mentally disabled)people who have already voted elsewherepeople who do not even existpeople who have not the legal right to vote
The photo is and will remain just one of the countless memorabilia I have of the 15+ years I spent living and working around the world as an expat.
No idea why the post came out that way but the garbled part was:
people who are dead
people who have not actually voted
people who don’t even know whom they are voting for (e.g. old people in nursing homes or mentally disabled)
people who have already voted elsewhere
people who do not even exist
people who have not the legal right to vote
And since I am here I will add to what I wrote that the photo wouldn’t even be taken as a valid proof by the naysayers anyway since it’s of a very poor quality and resolution (352 x 288).
I have only shown it to relatives and friends and they understand and believe what it shows because I tell them and they know me and know who I am…
So your bullshitting.
Own it.
Do you know why it’s so hard to try to show idiots like you how much of an idiocracy the US is today?
It’s because you are idiots.
I know about the idiocracy. I’m asking for a photo that you clearly don’t have, and it’s rustling your jimmies.
So after showing how I clearly don’t have that photo, you can rest easy and satisfied tonight, knowing that the US electoral system is solid and basically bullet proof (idiot proof, even).
I am rooting for the party of Biden’s autopen in November this year, I am sure it will be a landslide and for very different reasons we will all be happy in Clown World.
I just like to point out people that are full of shit. Congrats! You’re today’s winner!
Oh the amazing coincidences of life..!
I like to point out people that are morons unable to understand reality, the written word and life. Congrats! You’re today’s winner!
Can’t even land an original insult. What ARE you doing here commenting on US elections, and talking trash about Americans?
I’d say you were a bot, but bots don’t sound like angry Donald Duck when you read them.
Right, the old and always good “bot” retort… Honestly surprised you didn’t say RUSSIAN bot, given my often declared and much loved ties to Russia. LMAO
The reason I am commenting on US elections have already been stated here multiple times: I have lived and worked in the US, I have an American ex-wife (whom I am still friends with), I live in an American occupied country (Italy).
But above all, and believe it or not, I still have a love for your country which is in many ways pretty unique and still has some great redeeming qualities (which have been unrelently killed off by the dark forces which dominate the West).
No, I said you AREN’T a bot. Bots have better reading comprehension. You are 100% made of meat.
some random guy n the internet claiming he voted is proof?
and if you are not a citizen and dont’ live here why are you even commenting? it’s weird. it’d be like me commenting on some blog in Bulgaria about Bulgarian politics.
“some random guy n the internet claiming he voted is proof?”
Mine is as good a proof as his “Fox News is not reporting on it”.
“it’d be like me commenting on some blog in Bulgaria about Bulgarian politics.”
Bulgarian politics have little to no influence on your country while the politics of the idiocracy you live in unfortunately have a huge influence on the rest of the world and especially in occupied countries like mine.
no, if you have a major news outlet with massive financial backing and thousands of reporters who are clearly sided with one party and want nothing more than to be able to report on it– the fact that they don’t is telling. the comment is right, there WOULD be many poeple whose votes are rejected if someone voted in their stead.
there would be evidence all over and it wouldn’t be hard to find.
the idea that you have mass election fraud perpetrated by regular people, illegal immigrants, under our nosnes for years and no one can prove it whatsoever it telling you there is no such evidence — because it isn’t happening.
That’s just part of how electoral fraud is committed:
people who are dead
people who have not actually voted
people who don’t even know whom they are voting for (e.g. old people in nursing homes or mentally disabled)
people who have already voted elsewhere
people who do not even exist
people who have not the legal right to vote
And the bulk of the problem and the main enabler of electoral fraud is mail-in ballots, especially the utterly ludicrous way it’s handled in the US…
But go on believing that there is no electoral fraud in the US and that Fox News is not just another mouthpiece of Clown World/the deep state/the swamp/the real ruling elite.
sure, and if Trump got everything he wanted on the oter ID, mail in bans, and then republicans lost in the midterms, you think he’d say, oh well i guess we lost? please. it would then be that the way the votes were COUNTED were fraudulent. this is why you don’t try to appease idiotic conspiracies, because you can’t.
What Trump would say is TOTALLY BESIDE THE POINT.
As things stand now, the US electoral system is not even at the level of a banana republic, period.
And if we want to speculate about the likely results later this year, I think that the (WELL DESERVED) bloodbath for the Republican side of the uniparty (which I am hoping for since the more paralyzed the USG is, the better for everybody) would be a significant smaller one in a serious and honest electoral system. But most importantly, Biden’s autopen wouldn’t have won the 2020 election.
My brother voted twice in the same election. He had recently moved, so he voted in his new precinct and his old one. Without voter ID, it’s easier to claim “that wasn’t me”. He thought he was doing good.
Cool story bro
Very. But before people really believe me first I have to explain to them how the system works in the US, and that’s the hard part for them to believe.
If there were masses of people who were turned away from voting because someone pretending to be them got to their voting precinct before them then trust me, you would be hearing those people screaming not just on FOX News but everywhere else.
That’s just part of how electoral fraud is committed:
people who are dead
people who have not actually voted
people who don’t even know whom they are voting for (e.g. old
people in nursing homes or mentally disabled)
people who have already voted elsewhere
people who do not even exist
people who have not the legal right to vote
The bulk of the problem and the main enabler of electoral fraud is mail-in ballots, especially the utterly ludicrous way it’s handled in the US…
But go on believing that there is no electoral fraud in the US and that Fox News is not just another mouthpiece of Clown World/the deep state/the swamp/the real ruling elite.
“Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything,” (Josef Stalin)
That’s “dangling chads and mail in ballots” in Russian.
Luckily for the Russians, that Georgian guy is long dead and so is the (Soviet) Union they were a part of (and whose second biggest and second most influential country was the one we are told today is the first and foremost “Defender of Democracy and of Our Values”: Ukraine). LMAO
Now it’s unfortunately our turn to live under a dystopian, oppressive, illiberal regime…
Sure, elections have been “stolen” but that usually involves the preparation before the election like messing with voter roles. What Trump wants is on a scale which has never been seen before in the USA. We’re talking millions if not tens of millions of voters.
still pushing the lie that voting matters. in spite of the obvious evidence that no elected official gives a shit about the people. they are in it for their pockets.
it matters. just look at the difference POTUS makes. Trump has had a big impact on the lives of Americans.
The vote that counts the least is for the PEDOTUS. It’s not the people who vote for the office, but the electoral college. If you are a Democrat in TX or a Republican in CA, your vote counts nothing towards the outcome of the election for that office in your state.
partly true, i mean it counts depending on how many vote for the same candidate. the same would be said in non-electoral college votes. in NY, do your votes for a Republican senator count?
The going rate for a pet senator is $50000 and night in Vegas with an escort.
Dang! I’m gonna hire 2 and make them fight nekkid with cheap steak knives.
Senators, not escorts. I’m not an animal.
But think of cackling we would have had to endure!
I do not vote. It is a symbolic gesture that convinces people that they have “a say.” NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.
EPSTEIN and the PEDOS: what happened? OH, they are using VOTING as a diversionary tactic.
I always vote for the best choice. That’s why I haven’t voted for the highest office since I was in my 20s.
Relax. I can’t get excited about this.
Not because it isn’t a big threat, it is, but because it won’t go anywhere.
The Senate won’t pass the SAVE act because they have already told us they won’t.
If Trump actually publishes this EO, it will die a quick death.
If you think the SCOTUS will act slowly like they did in the tariffs, I don’t think they will. Think more like Bush v Gore in 2000. The timeline will be like that bc of the Constitutional implications. IE Bush v Gore implications, not tariff implications (don’t get me wrong, tariffs have huge Constitutional implications, but the timeliness is not the same). And I predict the SCOTUS will rule in a 6-3, or more likely even more lopsided way with a Constitutionally indefensible EO in this case.
Maybe I am an optimist, and you never know, but I just don’t see a Trump EO turning voting requirements on their head, holding up to serious judicial scrutiny. If I am wrong, then I think we are doomed, but I don’t think I am wrong here.
I hope so but apparently it was Goursuch who was holding up the tariffs decision which I consider pretty obvious. If the judges didn’t agree I would they would be quick about it.
I do not believe Gorsuch held up the decision.
Any Justice gets to respond to what any other justice says.
This back and forth can take a long time, especially with idiocies from Kavanaugh.
Gorsuch was brilliant in his statements
Exactly. The back and forth between the justices strung that decision timeline out.
The article I read said that Gorsuch took longer than the other justices to write his opinion which was about twice as long as any other. So he didn’t hold it up per se but just took a while to address what he wanted to with respect to the law and the court as well.
Nick Fuentes on fire right now vs T re Iran
If Nick used a better lube than parts of him might not be on fire right now. But he hangs out with a pretty rough crowd
Since it takes about 10 months for the Supreme Court to render a decision on an ’emergency’ case, Trump can do whatever he wants for 10 months at a time.
Reminds of a pocket veto with a different application
The ironic thing about the SAVE act is there are a lot of poor white Trump voters that would be impacted. Trump messing with the elections will be stopped by the SCOTUS or there will be hell to pay..
I would seriously refrain from thinking the SCOTUS will give us a Christmas miracle. They fucked up their one job.
They threw out the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 14th amendments so far.
Ignored the immoluents clause about not getting jets as personal gifts.
And many more.
This particular SCOTUS is part of the problem
overall it would hurt Democrats and help Republicans. they would not be doing this otherwise.
the article is correct, this overwhelmingly will impact women who get married and change their names and now have to scramble to find marriage certificate and name change, if you’ve been married 30 years and moved half a dozen times you may have no idea where those documents are. if you married in another country, you’ll need official translations.
I wonder how the rest of the world manages to do it without the slightest problem… What a clown show.
Cool story bro, you tell so many cool stories
I am glad this potential conspiracy is being brought to light early and any actions by the president will have time to be adjudicated by SCOTUS before citizens take things into their own hands. This is a red line. He has no idea what he could unleash…
Either this is what they want or they don’t care because they don’t think it’s a threat.
ICE is stockpiling weapons
Mish would an eo on this be grounds for impeachment
I don’t think so
The clearest case is stonewalling on Epstein
What would it take. The eo is just one part.
I think any action he took which was illegal and jeopardized life and limb could also be included. That would most certainly included the “drug” boats as that is a clear violation of international law. Also removing Muduro. And violating the rights of American citizens with regard to the illegal actions of ICE. Deliberately defying court orders. Too many of those to name. Maybe dissolving certain branches of the government without Congressional authorization? Enacting tariffs without Congressitional authorization. Illegally firing government officials without Congressional notification. Deliberately withholding or altering information with respect to Congressional oversight. High Crimes and Misdemeanors. Murder, violation or citizens rights, deliberately defying courts orders. Take your pick.
And yet the republican congress sits on it’s hands and sucks his…….
I currently have no opinion on the Save America Act. I have to show my ID to buy a pack of cigarettes so what’s wrong with showing an ID to vote? Most countries in the world require an ID to vote.
The problem is not the ID
I don’t have a problem with ID either.
The problems are
1) Constitutionality
2) the absurd way (purposeful) actually that is against married women
And just months before an election. Pretty obvious the motive. If you want an honest change then debate it Congress, send the result to the states, and ideally amend the Constitution. That may take a couple years or more. Then you need time for people to get the documents they need. But a major change to voting deserves no less consideration well in advance of any potentially major election.
And against poor people, for whom obtaining an ID would be a financial obstacle to vote. Also, there’s the possibility to delay certain ID’s to be provided on time, or even to be applied for. The birth certificate requirement is, as Mish lays out already, a clear obstruction for married women to vote.
If you ever changed your surname from what it was at birth, then you have to prove it.
As a man, of course, this does not impact you. As a married woman, this means that you now have to present your birth certificate, your marriage license, probably something else like your change of social security number, and then whatever else might be needed. Of course a passport works too.
A passport is expensive and takes 3 to 6 months. That’s without 150 million people applying for a passport in order to vote.
A birth certificate is tough to track down. You have to get a specially certified copy from the hospital that you were born in. Of course there’s a price for that too.
The one thing that’s really important to recognize here is that every path to getting to legal voter status requires you to spend some real time and money getting there. This is what a poll tax is, by definition.
See the 24th amendment
exactly, the more steps you have to take the more won’t be able to get it done in time. if you’re married 30 years and moved a bunch you may have no idea where your documents are, or you may be sure they’re in one place and then find out that they’re not there, or they’re in storage locker at the bottom and back ad now you have to move everything out (this last one stops me from getting lots of things out of storage– it’s just not worth the hassle)
Only one thing to say….
Got exit strategy?
Man, if Trump tried to pull that, it would be as unconstitutional as when secretaries of state arbitrarily changed voting procedures in 2020 without their legislatures as mandated by the Constitution in Article 1, section 4, clause 1.
Now that was a true “emergency” or at least highly unusual circumstance, being in the middle of a pandemic. In my D state with an R governor he made sure that everyone who wanted to vote was able to vote by most any means. He won great respect for that on top of what he had already done as governor. I wish had run for president even though I am a registered D. In the end it was still up to the states and I believe most changes were adjudicated by the state courts.
Covid – a true emergency? Get a hold of yourself. It had literally 1/100th the mortality rate of smallpox in the 19th century. If it was such an emergency, the state legislatures could have enacted changes in the “times, places & manners” in accordance with the constitution.
There were restrictions on movement while under the Trump administration no less. Our state had 4 modes of voting. Absentee, early, drop-off, and day of. No one complained except the losers. Biden got 7M more votes but still came close to losing the electoral vote count. Imagine what would have happened if Trump got 7M more votes and still lost the electoral college. MAGA would have gone Apeshit. But dems all had to deal with Hillary’s loss even though the electoral college is a holdover from the times of slavery.
Over a million Americans died and that’s not an emergency. Okay. I know where you stand
Regardless of whether one believes that number or whether it was an emergency, the constitution doesn’t have an “except in emergencies” exception to the requirement that state legislators set the time, place and manner of elections. There were over seven months between when Covid was declared a pandemic and the 2020 election. Plenty of time to convene or re-convene the state legislatures and amend the manner of the election. Instead, in many cases, it was done extraconstitutionally – meaning unconstitutionally. It would be outrageous for Trump to try to change the manner of elections. He wouldn’t get away with it. It wouldn’t be without recent precedent, though.
The only emergencies are the ones Trump is creating. Find dumpster. Light dumpster. Walk away. Wait for everyone to yell dumpster fire. (Fox, Musk, etc. are really good at this.) Then go put out dumpster fire. Rinse. Repeat.
Retard
That was actually an emergency dipshit
The Chief Pedophile of the United States is making his move towards dictatorship and the elimination of elections. We may be headed to a time when the states who still favor freedom and the Constitution must secede from this fascist regime.
Or change the leadership of the US by whatever means necessary.
I’ve friggin had it with this snake thinking he can do any and everything he wants. He’s about to cross a line where I will pack up and confront this BS in DC.
If you’re gonna stand in front of the White House and holler, be sure you have an E bike so you can get away from the goons
Let’s wait and see what he actually does before we start drawing conclusions. If he really starts cheating, he will start losing supporters. He knows that.
What I am surprised by is that he still has supporters at this stage of the game
Thank NewsCorp’s Fox for the propaganda that keeps his cult together.
What do you mean really starts cheating??? We have to squash everything before anything can start.
Starts cheating? Were you born yesterday?
His supporters are all for cheating elections for their guy, as long as he owns the libs.