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Opposition Mounts, Rep. Mace About to Break with Trump on War Powers Resolution

Republican Rep. Nancy Mace fears boots on the ground.

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Mace to Vote With Democrats

Axios reports Nancy Mace Eyes Break with Trump on Key Iran Vote

Rep. Nancy Mace (R-S.C.) told Axios she will “most likely” vote for House Democrats’ resolution to constrain President Trump from waging war with Iran the next time it comes up for a vote.

Key Points

  • Mace emerged as a suddenly fierce critic of the Iran war this week, declaring Wednesday that she will vote against funding further operations in the region.
  • But she went a step further on Thursday, telling Axios in a text message: “War with Iran needs to end. President Trump has won the war, time to exit.”
  • “I’m not voting to send South Carolina’s sons and daughters into battle to die for the price of oil,” she said.
  • A war powers resolution forced to the floor earlier this month was rejected in a 212-219 vote, with four House Democrats breaking away from their leadership and voting against the measure.
  • But most if not all of those Democrats are poised to flip the next time their party leadership forces a war powers vote.
  • There is little indication that Reps. Warren Davidson (R-Ohio) and Thomas Massie (R-Ky.), the two Republicans who voted for the war powers resolution last time, will flip and side with GOP leadership.

The Math

Flip four Democrats and assume Reps. Massie and Davidson will hold.

That would make the vote 216-214. Add Mace and it’s 217-213.

There are 435 House Seats. Due to vacancies there 431 active. A current majority would be 216.

House Dems Shore Up Support

Axios reports House Dems Shore Up Support for New Iran War Powers Vote

House Democrats have clamped down on internal divisions ahead of an expected vote to constrain President Trump’s ability to wage war with Iran, Axios has learned from lawmakers familiar with the matter.

With a 217 to 214 majority, House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) can only afford one GOP defection on an otherwise party-line vote.

That doesn’t even factor in House Republican leadership’s attendance concerns, including that members who lost their primaries or bids for higher office will stop showing up to vote.

The House will be on recess for the next two weeks, meaning the earliest a vote will happen is after the House returns on April 14.

If three Republicans break, assuming Democrats are solid, you are at 217 with at most 216 needed. Any disgusted Republican who do not show up would lower the count.

As it stands, it’s close but likely Trump loses the House vote.

Senate Math

A War Powers Resolution (WPR) does not require 60 votes to advance or pass in the Senate because it is granted expedited status under the procedural rules of the 1973 War Powers Act.

Rand Paul has already voted against Trump, but three more votes would be needed. It’s possible.

Is the Point Moot?

There are two answers: sort of, and perhaps yes in a major way.

The “sort of” answer is Trump would veto the legislation if it got to him. And it just might. Regardless, a symbolic loss in the House would be important. Mace just broke hard against troops on the ground.

The major way? The house is on recess for two weeks. Trump may already have boots on the ground before the House is back in session.

That’s a start. If there are deaths disapprovals will soar.

In Search of an Off-Ramp

Trump is stuck, desperate for an off-ramp.

However, Trump’s own demands make his off-ramp something like jumping off a cliff. He literally has no good solution.

Iran’s overriding goal at the moment is “inflict as much pain on Trump as possible”. And Iran will!

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Frosty
Frosty
2 months ago

Qatar Energy has declared a Force Majeure on LNG shipments to Italy due to the war.

How will that play in Milan Mr Trump?

Rest assured that this is the first of many that Trump and BiBi are directly responsible for.

Frosty
Frosty
2 months ago

Mace?

She may have considered that within one year from today the US will have to refinance 10 trillion dollars?

Perhaps she watched the US debt auction have to be extended to two days to find a bid in a rising interest rate environment this week.

She may also have a conscience?

Who will buy the debt from a nation that bombs a Google Maps identified girls school with the children sitting at their desks?

Greg
Greg
2 months ago

It seems that everyone except the US has been watching & leaning from the Ukraine War.
Iran has been stocked with FPT drones from Russia.
This is what US troops on the ground are going to be facing 24-7:
https://x.com/GloOouD/status/2037268335033790741
Iran will be 10X as bad as Iraq.

Last edited 2 months ago by Greg
Flavia
Flavia
2 months ago

Nancy Mace – who I recall as one of the more foul-mouthed members of Congress.
With regards to this war, Congress is as powerless as their constituents.

Last edited 2 months ago by Flavia
Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago
Reply to  Flavia

If they all dug in their heels, they could put an end – of sorts – to this folly. Of course, Trump’s Operation Epic Fuckup has lit the world on fire when it comes to oil, gas, hydrogen, urea, helium and other commodities vital to modern life. The wordy Stanislav Krapivnik explains some of the immense difficulties involved in re-starting the extraction industries in the Gulf that have already been knocked offline. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FppaceflidA

Frosty
Frosty
2 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

Excellent information!

Thx!

Stu
Stu
2 months ago

Some Key Points:

1. Mace emerged as a suddenly fierce critic of the Iran war this week. > What was promised and by whom?

2. Mace went a step further on Thursday: “War with Iran needs to end” > I guess she thinks it’s only up to one party?

3. “I’m not voting to send South Carolina’s sons and daughters into battle to die for the price of oil,” > I will let them get nuked instead!

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
2 months ago
Reply to  Stu

“I will let them get nuked instead!”

This keeps getting repeated over and over again here and it makes no sense. If Iran has nuclear material they can already nuke whoever they want with a dirty bomb which would be just as bad as an exploding nuke. Once radioactive material is spread on the soil, air and water it’s lights out death and destruction, that’s true whether it’s a kaboom bomb or Chernobyl (just ask the Russians).

Iran blowing up desalination plants and oil infrastructure will cause far more damage than a nuke would anyway. Iran can crash the global economy with a few drones.

Think about that long and hard, I know that’s asking a lot from you since your head is so deep up Trump’s rear end but next time you get out for a breather, try to think.

Stu
Stu
2 months ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

It’s in regards to people wanting to allow that to occur by their stance. .

Stu
Stu
2 months ago
Reply to  Stu

– Iran can crash the global economy with a few drones. > If you’re silly enough to believe that… Get your head out of the sand box!

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
2 months ago
Reply to  Stu

Think for a moment of how f_cking stupid #3 is.

Before this fiasco, the price of oil was fine….this “military action” has nothing to do with oil.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
2 months ago
Reply to  Joe Penny

But after Trump sent them back to nuclear stone age in June 2025 as he boasted, then Iran went back in the time machine and brought their uranium program forward to where they skipped the time Trump bombed them. That’s how they got their program back to being a world threat, can’t you see that? /s

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
2 months ago

Ah…now I see. Excellent analysis my friend.

Stu
Stu
2 months ago
Reply to  Joe Penny

It had absolutely nothing to do with the price of oil, but everything to do with Nuclear War being a clear possibility.

Jon
Jon
2 months ago
Reply to  Stu

Trump is trying to make nuclear war a clear possibility. Prior to Trump, Iran was completely restrained. Iran was a signatory to the global Nuclear non-Proliferation Treaty. Iran was a signatory to the JCPOA. It’s chief Ayatollah had issued a fatwa against the creation of nuclear weapons as being against the teachings of Islam (which it is). Iran had made a decision in the 1980s to replace it’s oil-fired electric power plants with nuclear plants for two reasons: it wanted to save oil to use for export to increase its foreign earnings, and it had adequate deposits of uranium. It’s nuclear program is and has always been about enriching uranium to a level that is useful in the generation of electric power. Everyone in the world knows this except Trump and his bloodthirsty, satanic, idiotic minions.

Neil
Neil
2 months ago
Reply to  Stu

But it wasn’t, because as others have pointed out the nucleair capabilities were entirely destroyed said trump. So did he lie then or now? (Most likely on both occasions of course)

Stu
Stu
2 months ago
Reply to  Neil

Enrichment of Uranium was not necessarily touched. We never had a chance to resolve that question, so we are hoping that did occur. This is why under a peace agreement, we have to be let in and sign off on it being the true case, before peace can be reached is my understanding.

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
2 months ago
Reply to  Stu

You’re just playing with us, right? You can’t possibly be this dense.

Frosty
Frosty
2 months ago
Reply to  Joe Penny

With our lil Stu, it is willful ignorance and malignant hatred.

Derecho
Derecho
2 months ago
Reply to  Neil

When asked to explain his ‘obliterated’ comment last June:
Trump, “The Iranians could dig it up.”
Jon Stewart “So it was obliterated unless Iran had a shovel.”

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago
Reply to  Stu

This war has ensured that Iran will get atomic weapons. It has also hastened other countries going nuclear – like South Korea after they saw us yank our THAAD systems out of their country. We’re going to see the greatest expansion of the nuclear club in decades in the aftermath of this fiasco.

Stu
Stu
2 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

A lot of there neighbors would not be happy or allow that to occur. Another Iran scenario, and they won’t want that. Not going to happen.

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago
Reply to  Stu

They’ll almost certainly have operable atomic weapons before year’s end, and there’s nothing the US or Israel can do about it.

Last edited 2 months ago by Sentient
Joe Penny
Joe Penny
2 months ago
Reply to  Stu

The only countries that will use nukes are Israel and the US, in fact the only country that ever has is the US.

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
2 months ago
Reply to  Stu

Why do you assume facts not in evidence?

How about “Mace saw the polls and boy howdy, it was ugly….”? or “Mace read the intelligence reports and there is no danger of South Carolina getting nuked and certainly not if we left people alone.”?

Stu
Stu
2 months ago
Reply to  Feral Finster

I didn’t realize we ran our Country based upon polls. Man are we in potential trouble down the road then…

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago
Reply to  Stu

Our country runs on the politicians doing the exact opposite of what they ran on once they’re in office.

Stu
Stu
2 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

Then you must be happy with Trump. he is only one of few Presidents that has kept his word on many issues. Many more too, if he wasn’t out voted in doing so.

Quatloo
Quatloo
2 months ago
Reply to  Stu

Trump has kept his work on issues?

You mean like saying he would end the Ukraine war on day 1? Or that he would never engage in regime change?

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
2 months ago
Reply to  Stu

Of course representative never ever run for re-election.

I note that you did not respond to my other point, so you apparently agree,

George
George
2 months ago
Reply to  Stu

Sound like you want to be incinerated have you contemplated the idea of china and Russia are just going to stay silent….

Stu
Stu
2 months ago
Reply to  George

I’m shocked China isn’t doing more, and Russia can’t with Ukraine and Z at the helm. They can help their ally with weaponry like we helped our ally. Also with information of all sorts, like we did with our ally.

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago
Reply to  Stu

How do you know what China is or isn’t doing? Both Russia and China are – at a minimum – sharing satellite data.

Stu
Stu
2 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

Of course they are. They are staunch ally’s!

Neil
Neil
2 months ago
Reply to  Stu

At least Russia knows who it’s enemies and allies are. The Americans seem to have no clue.

Stu
Stu
2 months ago
Reply to  Neil

Or is it, that some of those ally’s are now realizing they want to be with the U.S. and not the alternative moving forward, now that they are closer to being Free?

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago
Reply to  Stu

One thing US “allies” (vassals) are not is free.

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
2 months ago
Reply to  Stu

Poster Jon below has made a perfectly clear summation of our situation:

Trump’s intellect mirrors that of his supporters.

and Stu is a perfect illustration of this maxim.

Stu
Stu
2 months ago
Reply to  Phil in CT

We have no idea what Trump and His Administration are looking at for information. At times I do mirror Trumps judgement however. A perfect example would be to Close Our Borders and demand Legal Entrance. I’m 100% for Legal Entry & Seal Our Borders and have them use the proper entrance, under the proper rules, and with the proper paperwork.
I did each and everyone of these things in every single Country I have traveled to and from. I have been to a lot of other Countries. Japan is next up. They demand the same as well.

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago
Reply to  Phil in CT

You won’t win people over by calling them dumb. You’re smarter than Kamala Harris, BTW. You should read Ruy Texeira’s latest: https://www.liberalpatriot.com/p/no-learning-please-were-democrats

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
2 months ago
Reply to  Phil in CT

No lies detected

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago
Reply to  Stu

Geez, Stu, if you’re worried about Iran’s nukes, you must lay awake about a few other countries: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtCTD6M7dTc

Stu
Stu
2 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

“Was” worried.

No other Country I’m aware of, has been shouting “Death to America” for Decade after Decade, AND has Nuclear Bombs and Materials potentially available to them, AND are threatening to do so asap.

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
2 months ago
Reply to  Stu

So if my neighbor shouts “Death to Finster!” I am legally entitled to shoot him?

And gee, why would Iran wish us ill? I mean, we’ve never conducted a coup, never sanctioned them, never murdered their government officials, never attacked the, never shot down their airliners and given a naval officer a medal for doing so, never armed their enemies with chemical weapons, never propped up a corrupt, brutal and incompetent tyrant that we installed?

OK, we actually did all that and more, but they should love us, right?

Stu
Stu
2 months ago
Reply to  Feral Finster

I never said they should love us, but you can’t keep letting the World know you’re going to annihilate them and not expect them to do something about it eventually.

In your example, a restraining order for staters might help, but if not then proof of. Wrong doing, or some proof of wanting to harm you might help. Say every day they are harassing you, and threatening to kill you. I think that reason to worry, and report such activity. Say the buy a rocket launcher and aim it at your house, I think that’s a reason to worry, and do something about it perhaps, if you’re getting nowhere with law enforcement.

You are forced by common sense, and intelligence to do something about such threats of death to you and your family, or maybe in your specific case, your not, I have no idea…

George
George
2 months ago
Reply to  Stu

Key point, I am recommending that you Lindsey and congress should be drafted and go first on the front line of attack….

Stu
Stu
2 months ago
Reply to  George

I think you have to be 11 or 12 to join? Not 100% sure though…

Augustine
Augustine
2 months ago

I don’t recall the last time that this White House abided by the letter and spirit of any law or court decision by doubling down on questionable legal loop holes. So don’t hold your breath about this war stopping regardless of what any vote would be.

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
2 months ago

45,800 breached….2nd time…3 strikes and you’re out

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
2 months ago
Reply to  Joe Penny

10 year at 4.45 and 20 year over 5 percent now!

Oh and Brent *May at $110.

Isn’t this all moving in the wrong direction if Trump has everything under control? Lol.

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
2 months ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

Brent really wants that $120…hasn’t got it yet
03/19/26 $119.13 (i/d hi)
03/09/26 $119.50 (i/d hi)

$120 gets breached could be a moonshot to $150

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago
Reply to  Joe Penny

I read yesterday that India has already been paying Russia $5-15 over Brent.

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
2 months ago
SleemoG
SleemoG
2 months ago
Reply to  Joe Penny

Quicker to list the things that aren’t wrong.

There, done.

Quatloo
Quatloo
2 months ago

Great article on the immorality of this war by Judge Napolitano
https://original.antiwar.com/andrew-p-napolitano/2026/03/26/war-and-morality/

most of you voted for the uniparty all your lives
most of you voted for the uniparty all your lives
2 months ago

Everything the Bullshitter in Chief says is fake news.

most of you voted for the uniparty all your lives
most of you voted for the uniparty all your lives
2 months ago

This piece of shit administration renders the Dubya/Cheney administration relatively honest and competent.

(Still not “good” though.)

Last edited 2 months ago by most of you voted for the uniparty all your lives
Frosty
Frosty
2 months ago

We have the clock, they have the time.

Persia (Iran) is a 2,500 year old nation with a far different culture.

We shall see if our AI dream military can game this somehow into a victory, with the US and Israel owning the oil assets and infrastructure as they apparently want. But as a betting man? The odds are against Trump and BiBi.

Frosty
Frosty
2 months ago
Reply to  Frosty

The “Plunge Protection Team” is gonna have their hands full today!

Trump better tell Scotty B to buy that S&P and “Beam Us Up”

David Palmer
David Palmer
2 months ago
Reply to  Frosty

Israel doesn’t need any oil assets- they have proven natgas reserves for a hundred years. As for the US, freeing the Iranian people from bondage and removing the primary funder of terrorism throughout the world is a worthy goal. Maybe someday we’ll no longer need TSA at the airports. When a free Iran sells its oil to the world, that money will rebuild Iran and the country will flourish, not sponsor terrorist Islamopaths. Let’s pray Trump has the resolve to complete the task.

As for the representatives who don’t support this fight, wake up. A free Iran makes the whole world safer, makes energy cheaper, and puts Islamic terrorism out of business.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
2 months ago
Reply to  David Palmer

Another random name shows up to defend Trumpstien, Never to be seen again…

R P
R P
2 months ago
Reply to  David Palmer

Agreed, but such actions should occur only with Congress’s consensus. We choose our senators and House representatives to act as our collective voice. As citizens, we have a stake in significant decisions—whether it’s conducting a single air strike on other countries, capturing (Maduro) or killing their leaders (Iran), an excursion, or declaring war with boots on the ground (all these mean the same thing, essentially involving attacking another nation). These decisions require approval from Congress, which shares coequal POWER with the executive branch under the Constitution. Otherwise, declare the constitution null & void, or have a majority vote to change it.

Last edited 2 months ago by R P
todde
todde
2 months ago
Reply to  David Palmer

meanwhile I am being asked by Iranians if my President is mentally aware of what is going on.

I dont have an answer for them.

maybe the monkey with the handgun will kill all the right people and Iran will be free.

but there isnt much hope.

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
2 months ago
Reply to  David Palmer

Wait, now you’re pretending to care about the Iranian people? Like we pretended to care about Iraqis, Afghans, Libyans and Syrians?

If these people were just itching to be free, Trump should go there himself. Surely that would spark an uprising, Trump would be welcomed with open arms by people grateful that he killed their children!

I thought this was all about “nuclear weapons” but the pretext keeps changing, it’s almost like people aren’t telling the truth about the real reason.

And since you’re yapping about airports, tell us, was 9/11 an Iranian operation? Nope. Sunni extremists, mostly Saudis and funded from Saudi Arabia and the Gulfie tyrannies.

Al Qaeda? Nope – Sunni extremists, mostly Saudis and funded from Saudi Arabia and the Gulfie tyrannies.

ISIS? Nope – Sunni extremists, mostly funded from Saudi Arabia and the Gulfie tyrannies.

Last edited 2 months ago by Feral Finster
threeblindmice
threeblindmice
2 months ago
Reply to  David Palmer

We should thank Israel for its generosity in working to free the Iranian people… and the Lebanese. Almost done freeing the Gazans too. Such selflessness. Renews my faith in humanity.

Frosty
Frosty
2 months ago
Reply to  David Palmer

You might take a moment to think what the parents of those schoolgirls think about who is the terrorist? Consider the history since Balfour?

Rest assured that if Iranians had ever killed 162 schoolchildren you would be going insane in your hatred and demanding justice, blood and more.

Idiots like you are why we are $40 trillion in debt for spending on wars instead of infrastructure, education, healthy foods and healthcare for “Our Nations Citizens”.

Ask yourself the simple question. Who does Trump work for?

Hint, we have spent over $100,000 per Israeli citizen over the last twenty years on Israel’s taking of land from their neighbors.

I love America as our founding fathers created it. Of the People, By the People, For the People. Not as a military slave state to Israeli interests.

cambeiu
cambeiu
2 months ago

‘People are extremely angry’:
Defiance grows in strike-hit city of IsfahanAnger is boiling across Iran as US and Israeli air strikes intensify with residents in cities such as Isfahan taking to the streets despite ongoing bombardment.
“People are extremely angry … angry at the … US betrayal … angry at the war crimes committed by the United States and the Zionist regime in Iran including the killing of civilians… and the attacks in hospitals,” said Professor Mohsen Farkhani of the University of Isfahan.
The mood is not limited to one city but reflects a nationwide shift in sentiment after weeks of attacks, he said.
“After 27 days … people under any weather conditions and even during the bombardments … are out in the streets every evening until the midnight supporting the Islamic Republic.”
Farkhani told Al Jazeera many now see the conflict as existential, rejecting expectations that Iran could be destabilised from within.
“They thought that Iran is Venezuela or Syria … and they can easily topple its governing system … But that was totally wrong.”
Instead, he pointed to growing calls for long-term resistance.
“We believe that they [US and Israel] are a … ‘paper tiger’ … and what is happening on the ground is … that we will continue the war until we make deterrence.”
https://aje.news/dqwzxy?update=4439134

Jon
Jon
2 months ago
Reply to  cambeiu

Trump made the mistake of showing the Iranian people who we really are.

Mak
Mak
2 months ago
Reply to  cambeiu

Surely that can’t be true. The US and Israel have been dropping thousands of regime change bombs. Maybe they need to drop some more regime change bombs…

/s

njbr
njbr
2 months ago

“fog of war”–is a ground war imminent?

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/is-a-ground-war-with-iran-imminent

“We got two Marine expeditionary units sailing to this island [Kharg],” Sen. Lindsey Graham told Fox News Sunday. “We did Iwo Jima. We can do this.”

Sounds scary, right? Here’s the reality.

On March 13, headlines blared that the “three-ship” USS Tripoli Amphibious Ready Group, carrying the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit, was ordered from Japan to the Middle East. Over the next week, news outlets across the globe literally tracked the supposed 2,200 Marines making their way moving west through the Strait of Malacca into the Indian Ocean.

In actuality, one of the three ships, the USS San Diego, never left Japan and is still there. And the other two ships, carrying just 1,500 fighters, are sitting at Diego Garcia, roughly 4,260 kilometers from Iran’s coastline.

And that second Marine Expeditionary Unit? Contrary to some reporting that said that the USS Boxer Group left Hawaii on March 19, it departed San Diego. It will have to cover approximately 22,200 kilometers to reach the region and wouldn’t be able to arrive until mid-April at the earliest. Navy sources in San Diego say it is still unclear to the unit itself whether it is headed for the Gulf or just moving to the Pacific to cover the departing Tripoli group.

Not exactly imminent!

George
George
2 months ago
Reply to  njbr

Tripoli is also at anchor in Diego Garcia Lindsey is the one who wants to get the marines killed , and like I said the armada is in a hole like fish in a barrel if they make it to the battle field Hormuz, Iran won’t surrender the U.S has to surrender and we will pay for reparations if by any chance trump gives the order of attack that will be his last bankruptcy….

Jon
Jon
2 months ago
Reply to  njbr

“We did Iwo Jima. We can do this.”

The US put 70,000 marines on Iwo Jima to face 22,000 Japanese. Trump is sending 5,000 to face a million Iranians. Trump’s intellect mirrors that of his supporters.

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago
Reply to  njbr

Simplicius wrote the same last night (quoting Klippenstein) https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/nyt-admits-iran-rendered-virtually He seems to think that means no imminent boots on the ground. I’m not so sure.

Last edited 2 months ago by Sentient
I’m back robbyrob
I’m back robbyrob
2 months ago

The economic consequences of the Iran warThe U.S. is likely to get off easy, while others will bear the brunt.
https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/the-economic-consequences-of-the

njbr
njbr
2 months ago

oil and gas are not the only items affected by the closure – the are other key inputs that are restricted or missing that make up parts of the economy

and the restriction of the badly affected Asian countries will be felt by US purchasers of Asian products

if it ended today with no further damage, 6 months is the minimum time back to “normal”

Pedro
Pedro
2 months ago

The Republicans are running scared, especially if they represent states with you ger voters. Was just reading about the CPAC meeting, the oldies are generally pro the war but younger attendees are pissed that Trump is doing the opposite of what he said. Problem is that if young people get cynical even earlier than usual, the USA is never going to get this Plutocracy under control

Quatloo
Quatloo
2 months ago
Reply to  Pedro

Change is inevitable but slow. The older generations that love invading other nations are dying off.

threeblindmice
threeblindmice
2 months ago

The conundurum here is that the party behaving immorally (the US/Israel) have stronger armies and are in a position to act immorally with impunity. What to do?

Jon
Jon
2 months ago
Reply to  threeblindmice

Swallow hard and vote for democrats in the next election. It is the only thing you can do to punish the war mongers.

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 months ago
Reply to  Jon

Its highly doubtful the Democrats will punish them. Remember Hillary was a warmonger herself and she’s still a powerful Democrat.

Jon
Jon
2 months ago
Reply to  TexasTim65

I don’t disagree. But the only hope is to make certain than when someone starts a war, they’re out. No ifs ands, or buts. I loathe Hillary Clinton as much as I loathe Donald Trump.

Quatloo
Quatloo
2 months ago
Reply to  threeblindmice

The only thing you can do is dig in and be prepared for an extended fight. Also important to gather additional international support, which collectively can stand up to the US.

Tom
Tom
2 months ago

It’s Friday.
He’ll have boots on the ground by Monday. He likes the weekends because the stock market has days to get manipulated

Rogerroger
Rogerroger
2 months ago
Reply to  Tom

And he can get ahead of main stream media.

pokercat
pokercat
2 months ago
Reply to  Tom

I doubt they will actually send ground troops anytime soon, if ever. I think the commanders know how costly a ground invasion will be. One commander may become a hero and end trump, remember how the Germans tried to end Hitler.

Quatloo
Quatloo
2 months ago
Reply to  pokercat

Since when has logic entered into Trump’s decision-making process?

Blurtman
Blurtman
2 months ago

Several months back, I attended a Nancy Mace townhall meeting. Freakish-looking trannies ringed the restaurant where the event was being held, trying to disrupt the meeting with loudspeakers. During the Q&A session, Ms. Mace politely answered a question from a wokester group, and the leader kept harranguing her, not accepting her answer. It was quite refreshing to see audiences members tell these folks to STFU, she answered your question, sit down. Unfortunately, Lindsey Graham Cracker will likely be re-elected. Still, South Carolina is a very tolerable pace to live, and is receiving a large influx of transplants.

Last edited 2 months ago by Blurtman
Tom
Tom
2 months ago
Reply to  Blurtman

South Carolina is one of the strongest histories of racism in this country. I am skeptical that they can tolerate much.

Blurtman
Blurtman
2 months ago
Reply to  Tom

No one alive in South Carolina ever owned slaves.

Jon
Jon
2 months ago
Reply to  Blurtman

Interestingly, you don’t have to actually own a slave to be a racist.

Blurtman
Blurtman
2 months ago
Reply to  Jon

Right, there are black racists, for example. There are Mexican racists.

Jon
Jon
2 months ago
Reply to  Blurtman

Absolutely correct. All are scum.

Tom
Tom
2 months ago
Reply to  Blurtman

What a stupid thing to say. Why did you even get out of bed today?

Blurtman
Blurtman
2 months ago
Reply to  Tom

You wife kicked me out.

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
2 months ago
Reply to  Tom

Muh… slaverisms

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago
Reply to  Tom

Apparently they can tolerate a closeted gay midget warmonger senator.

Blurtman
Blurtman
2 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

And Tim Scott.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
2 months ago
Reply to  Blurtman

South Carolina is a mildewed hole full of roaches.

Luke
Luke
2 months ago
Reply to  Blurtman

You can’t even tolerate trans people go fuck yourself

Blurtman
Blurtman
2 months ago
Reply to  Luke

XX, XY. Follow the science.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
2 months ago
Reply to  Blurtman

What the fuck does that even mean? “Follow the science”. It’s as moronic as “Study it out”

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago
Reply to  Luke

Anyone should be able to transition … the instant they turn 18.

eighthman
eighthman
2 months ago

This war has to be stopped quickly, like in days. I repeat the opinion of BOA research here. The longer it goes on, the more lasting damage is done to the global economy – that may take years to fix. Inflation and bad Treasury sales are building up. Congress could intervene and give Trump an exit/excuse.

Tom
Tom
2 months ago
Reply to  eighthman

There’s no way it will end in the next two weeks because we’re still within his 4 to 6 week umbrella.
There is no way that Trump can end this war before a global recession and now I’m depressed

Mick
Mick
2 months ago
Reply to  Tom

Trump said 4-5 weeks on March 1, and in the last week it shifted to 4-6 weeks, perhaps to allow time for “negotiations”. I have a feeling this is going to become a sliding time window, always 3-4 weeks away from victory, punctuated by Baghdad Bob war updates. Our air defenses are doing fabulous. We have air superiority. The Iranians are fearful and don’t even have viable negotiators left. We could have ended the war a month ago, if there was anyone left to negotiate with. Blah blah blah.

Pedro
Pedro
2 months ago
Reply to  eighthman

The trouble is that ending the war doesn’t open the Strait of Hormuz. Trump is in trouble, expect some really nutty behavior

Quatloo
Quatloo
2 months ago
Reply to  Pedro

Exactly. Trump can’t win the war by just ceasing fire. Israel and Iran will continue to exchange fire and the Strait will remain closed to any country with US military bases.

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
2 months ago

Haaretz: Netanyahu believed in the myth of American power, a myth that no longer exists

  • Netanyahu went to war against Iran relying on an America that no longer exists.
  • Benjamin Netanyahu believed in the myth of absolute American power.
  • Now, after launching the Israeli-American war against Iran together with Donald Trump, he is facing the limitations of that power; and this in circumstances where Trump’s administration is showing a historic level of incompetence and weakness.

https://x.com/SprinterPress/status/2037104378037895178

Mick
Mick
2 months ago
Reply to  Joe Penny

I doubt he is that dumb. Netanyahu is not Zelensky, who I think probably believed in all the myths. But he’s a self-centered megalomaniac, willing to sacrifice U.S. military and even Israel itself for his own glory.

Last edited 2 months ago by Mick
Quatloo
Quatloo
2 months ago
Reply to  Mick

For Netanyahu over the last 40 years, the US has been nothing more than a tool to be used for Israel’s interest. This is evident from the fact that they routinely spy on the US and steal military and nuclear secrets. And of course from AIPAC, which buys US politicians, resulting in billions of dollars sent to Israel and protects Israel’s interests in the UN Security Council. Not to mention the US troops fighting for Israel’s interests in the Middle East over many years.

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
2 months ago

For those that want to see some MAGA Hogs in the wild, 15 min video below, FF to 7:00 min mark and have your barf bags ready

To his credit, Bannon was staunchly anti-war and anti-invasion until just the past week or so…obvious (at least to me) that someone tapped him on the shoulder

And the crowd, to it’s credit, is less then enthused about the continued mess with Iran

Eric Bolling’s unhinged drunken rant at the tail-end is one for the ages

https://rumble.com/v77o1qo-bannon-and-bolling-end-the-wars-or-end-the-threat-iran-debate-divides-cpac-.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_a

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
2 months ago

Futures GREEN all night…on verge of going RED

Put your signature on that Chrump ™

Frosty
Frosty
2 months ago
Reply to  Joe Penny

Even with his “Hail Mary” TACO!

DOW futures are down -180 at 8:30 after being up over 200 overnight.

VIX challenging 30 on its way to a possible 80 in the next three months with this nutcase at the helm.

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
2 months ago

Headline from the future after a Mossad false flag in the US:

“Trump considering nukes against Iran”

Bookmark it

CJW
CJW
2 months ago

I think he might welcome a close vote to end the war. It is the off ramp he is looking for. Blame the democrats for whatever happens going forward.

most of you voted for the uniparty all your lives
most of you voted for the uniparty all your lives
2 months ago
Reply to  CJW

Probably Drumpf and the entire regime will welcome an off ramp.

But that means withdrawing from the region. Not just “we stop shooting but stay here”, because they will rearm and attack again later. It is what they do.

Tom
Tom
2 months ago

I believe they are allowed to defend themselves. I know, it’s a really annoying habit

JGold
JGold
2 months ago
Reply to  CJW

There is no off-ramp until the Strait reopens.

If not for Hormuz, Trump would’ve already pulled out and gaslit everyone by claiming victory and “mission accomplished”.

Now he’s stuck until he can find a way to drop oil prices.

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
2 months ago
Reply to  CJW

What offramp will satisfy Israel?

todde
todde
2 months ago
Reply to  Feral Finster

the one that has Iran bombing Israel until it learns unfortunately

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
2 months ago
Reply to  todde

Unless and until Netanyahu faces personal consequences, he could not care less.

alx
alx
2 months ago

slight off topic!

==
Russian Baltic Oil Port Of Primorsk Resumes Loading After Ukraine Attack
=== from zh

remember JUST 2 DAYS AGO from Reuters, Ukraine halted 40% of oil russian export from western ports!

well, reality is QUITE diff. as usual
port resumes loading !
=====

jesus. uki bots are so gullible.
reason : lack of proper education and overall knowledge of how things are !

only mor11on(=uki bot) would think single hit(s) 10+ kg of explosives would harm in any meaningful way large industr. site built esp TO DEAL W/ EXPLOSIVE MATERIALS like GAS AND OIL!

alx

Frosty
Frosty
2 months ago

Wouldn’t this be a pleasant turn of events?

But as far as Mace’s career as a Republican goes? She is gonna get primaried by Trump’s henchmen, and with that as an asset? Win!

😉

Decency and courage in office? Bravo!

Casual Observer
Casual Observer
2 months ago

This war is about the end of the petrodollar. The reasons keep shifting which tells you something far more sinister is upon us.

most of you voted for the uniparty all your lives
most of you voted for the uniparty all your lives
2 months ago

Ignore the OPTICS.

Organize yourselves. Meet your neighbours.
Fight the uniparty. Fight the oligarchs that control it.

John
John
2 months ago

Now Israel or America might create a strong False Flag to get the publics emotions to swing more Americans into supporting boots on the ground. For example Israel could shoot down a large passenger plane and make it look like Iran was the culprit. Military Planners could create a false way to get more Americans hooked into support for War.

Last edited 2 months ago by John
cambeiu
cambeiu
2 months ago
Reply to  John

Create a false flag big enough and there will be no mid-term elections.

After 9/11 I became fully aware of how easily my fellow Americans get frightened and embrace authoritarianism who offers an illusion of safety.

I am sure that lesson was not forgotten.

Frosty
Frosty
2 months ago
Reply to  cambeiu

70 million WWF fans voted for the Trump illusion in our recent past…

I guess Fox News already has the script of the next chapter of the peace war process in the can. Stay tuned to the bloated orange TACO show!

Frosty
Frosty
2 months ago
Reply to  John

That’s not original, already been done in the Ukraine…

Quatloo
Quatloo
2 months ago
Reply to  John

I fully expect a false flag operation blaming Iran for killing Americans within the next 6 months

Rob
Rob
2 months ago

I don’t believe her. When Trump demands the bent knee, they will fall in line.

Quatloo
Quatloo
2 months ago
Reply to  Rob

Backing a war that would likely draft her constituents to go fight in Iran is a losing proposition, and Trump’s approval among Americans is dropping like a rock.

She is one of many who are starting to see the wisdom in being in the vanguard of Republicans who stand against Trump.

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago

Good for her. If more republicans come out against this war it’ll also make it hard for Schumer to give Trump half a loaf.

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
2 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

Remember, Schumer works for Israel first, not America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRRq_ss9bz4

Quatloo
Quatloo
2 months ago
Reply to  Joe Penny

Just like Trump

njbr
njbr
2 months ago

in minor, other news

State Department plans to funnel $1.25bil to Trump’s “Board of Peace” from reserves in emergency aid funds

Jon
Jon
2 months ago
Reply to  njbr

And straight into Trump family pockets.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
2 months ago
Reply to  njbr

They already spent the first 10 billion? On what?

Quatloo
Quatloo
2 months ago
Reply to  El Trumpedo

Shorting the stock markets

I’m back robbyrob
I’m back robbyrob
2 months ago

meanwhile: War will push U.S. inflation above 4% this year, OECD says

alx
alx
2 months ago

in reality it is 10%

oil went up already 30%, and that is domestic produced

imagine overall import. esp Chinese, esp if-when energy shock is on later this year

I’m back robbyrob
I’m back robbyrob
2 months ago

Pentagon Weighs Sending Another 10,000 Ground Troops to the Middle East Ok to do what? And what about the troops that are already there; what are they doing there ??
Maybe to do this? How Trump’s Plot to Grab Iran’s Nuclear Fuel Would Actually WorkExperts say that an American ground operation targeting nuclear sites in Iran would be incredibly complicated, put troops’ lives at great risk—and might still fail.

https://www.wired.com/story/us-iran-war-nuclear-extraction-ground-operation/

Last edited 2 months ago by I’m back robbyrob
pokercat
pokercat
2 months ago

It takes many support personnel for each front line trooper. In Iraq it was about 1:8 in Vietnam 1:12.

Avery2
Avery2
2 months ago

Is Trump going to subcontract TSA to Epstein?

Quatloo
Quatloo
2 months ago
Reply to  Avery2

Increased body cavity searches make us safer

SleemoG
SleemoG
2 months ago

.

Last edited 2 months ago by SleemoG
dtj
dtj
2 months ago

AI says: “Iran is a signatory to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT), having ratified it in 1970. As a non-nuclear-weapon state under the treaty, Iran is prohibited from acquiring nuclear weapons and must accept international safeguards on its nuclear activities.”

Israel is NOT a signatory. If you ask Grok why not, Grok will defend Israel’s position with pages of excuses.

alx
alx
2 months ago
Reply to  dtj

cant blame Israel . why would you?

israel was under constant attacks from 1949..

at least it never attacked any other country around, even during wars

Syria, Egypt, etc

threeblindmice
threeblindmice
2 months ago
Reply to  alx

Israel attacked Palestine first politically, then militarily. It attacked and expelled Palestinians in ’47, attacked Egypt in ’56, Syria continuously in the ’50s, Egypt/Syria again in ’67. I’m sure I forgot others. Israel is not the victim.

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago
Reply to  alx

Israel wouldn’t have its undue influence if not for American shekelwhores in congress.

Frosty
Frosty
2 months ago
Reply to  alx

Perhaps you should go back to the Balfour Declaration in 1913 to get a more broad perspective on who invaded whom…

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
2 months ago
Reply to  alx

Please tell me that was sarcasm.

Tony Frank
Tony Frank
2 months ago

I would never bet against taco as he always finds a way to get what he wants regardless of what it takes. I guess he learned “some skills” as a reality tv person.

Peace
Peace
2 months ago
Reply to  Tony Frank

TACO is not stupid.
His casino bankrupted six times and he escaped unscathed.
He even made some profit although his share holders and staffs lost.
He is not clever either.

cambeiu
cambeiu
2 months ago

Iran knows that time is working against Trump.

Now they are saying that there will be no talks or negotiations until the bombings and assassinations come to a full stop.

https://aje.news/dqwzxy?update=4438125

Phil
Phil
2 months ago
Reply to  cambeiu

Iran knows Trump has ADD and is quickly bored. Trump cannot stay focused on the Iran War and will move on to something else.

Sentient
Sentient
2 months ago
Reply to  Phil

There’s always the Bay of Pigs again.

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 months ago
Reply to  cambeiu

Don’t discount the possibility of a Gulf of Tonkin false flag type event to spur support for the war.

All they’d need to do is engineer another 9/11 type event that would be blamed on Iran.

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