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Path to a Greener Future: Tax Kids or Just Ban Them Outright

Ironies of Build Back Better

President Biden wants free college education, free preschool for kids, and increased child tax credits. 

All of these proposals subsidize the single worst thing we can do for the environment: have kids. 

Kids eat, need medical services, eventually become teenagers and drive cars. And as shocking as this might seem, kids grow up and travel, eventually by airplane.

Poor Nations Say They Need Trillions From Rich Ones

Yesterday, I commented Hello President Biden, Poor Nations Say They Need Trillions From Rich Ones

It’s one thing for developed countries like the US to demand a cleaner future, but it’s another thing to attempt to force G7 goals on the rest of the world.   

About Those Climate Change Goals

John Kerry was speechless when he learned Poor Nations Need Trillions From Rich Ones to meet climate change goals.

At a July global climate gathering in London, South African environment minister Barbara Creecy presented the world’s wealthiest countries with a bill: more than $750 billion annually to pay for poorer nations to shift away from fossil fuels and protect themselves from global warming.

The number was met with silence from U.S. Climate Envoy John Kerry, according to Zaheer Fakir, an adviser to Ms. Creecy. Other Western officials said they weren’t ready to discuss such a huge sum.

Kids are the single most destructive thing to the environment. Their toys are mostly made of plastic, diapers are throw-away, and as they get older, litter is inevitable.

A tax on corporations is not the answer. Corporations don’t really pay taxes anway. Consumers do. 

Guarantee Living Wages 

Think about guaranteed living wages for a second. Sheeesh, what a Progressive disaster.  

Living wages encourage the single most destructive thing environmentally, having kids.

Modest Proposal

Dear readers, environmentally speaking, the proper thing to do is ban kids altogether.

Instead, we have Progressives demanding countless environmentally detrimental actions while simultaneously demanding a greener earth.

Meanwhile, poor nations demand outrageous bribes to produce clean energy.

Phooey. If we just ban having kids outright, the earth will heal itself in short order. 

Some might object to such a radical proposal. Yet, it it pales in comparison Jonathan Swift’s A Modest Proposal written in 1729.

In his essay, Swift proposed “Eating Children For Preventing The Children of Poor People in Ireland From Being A burden to Their Parents or Country, and For Making Them Beneficial to The Public

Swift was clearly way ahead of his time. We could use a man of his stature today.

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blacklisted
blacklisted
4 years ago
You and Gates are two peas in a pod. At least you’re not for outright killing people, like Gates.  The sad irony is there is NOT an overpopulation or CO2 problem, but it does provide the fear propaganda to sheppard the sheeple.
Carl_R
Carl_R
4 years ago
Reply to  blacklisted
Contemplate how much of the above post is serious, and how much of it is sarcasm. Hint: I don’t think it is all either one, nor the other, but rather the extension of certain ideas to their logical conclusion, for the purposes of stimulating thought.
Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Humans  do three things in terms of ecology.
Turn resources into garbage.
Turn life forms into feces.
Make more humans.
That’s all fine and good, as long as there are few enough that the ecosystem can process the waste.  The population can’t increase forever.
Cocoa
Cocoa
4 years ago
The US is the most unsupportive western government already for children. Children are a debt opportunity and as such you get massive indentured servant class by the time college is over. Think about it, does the USG really help you raise kids? Not really. Do poor people really file taxes and claim deductions on income they never made? I agree, stop having.kids-just to punish the government ponzi
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
“President Biden wants free college education, free preschool for kids…”
Free college indoctrination and free preschool indoctrination. There was a story recently about a mother who inquired about what her child was going to be taught in kindergarten and the school authorities refused to tell her. She persisted to know and was sued.
What were they trying to hide from the parent?
Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Reply to  RonJ

Math and reading are just elitist propaganda! Smart bad! Stupid good!I love the smell of an inferiority complex in the morning…

KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
In a few decades, we’ll have the opposite problem. Too few children being born. It’s already happening in much of the developed world. Only black Africa has much population growth. Soon to be followed by global cooling. Which will prove to be far worse than global warming.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
You are kind of contradicting yourself, are you not ? Global warming or even global cooling, whenever that may happen,  is gonna be even more of a problem on a overpopulated planet , is it not ? 
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels
I don’t see how I contradicted myself. I see a future where we’ll have a shrinking global population in conjunction with falling average global temperatures.
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
As long as all those stupid enough to fall for progressivism, who are flat out retarded enough to believe the same old decaying shack and same old future income stream somehow getting MORE expensive, is some sort of good thing (can you imagine being that dumb? Even children aren’t usually that retarded…), effectively, do as you suggest (no doubt while priding themselves on how “sciency, like” they are for, like, “believing in evolution”); no doubt things will turn out OK in the end. The Taliban will just outbreed the retards, outgun them, leave them for dead and forget about them. Thank goodness. Can’t happen soon enough.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Perhaps it would be wiser to ban cats and dogs before banning children if one were really concerned about the environment. 
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
hey you,  ok for banning dogs, NOT cats though ….I am a ailurophile !  Btw , banning horses wouldn t be a bad idea either 😉
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels
Cats and dogs are tasty when well prepared so they could have a use for an ecological society. Horse meat is too and there are lots of it when it can no longer pull a plow. They are all ready sources of food in times of famine and if we go full ecolo we will have much of that. I am kind of hungry now so I am eying my neighbor’s dog.
Carl_R
Carl_R
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Supposedly, horse meat is quite tasty. My father always told me that, due to a meat shortage, horse meat was not uncommon during WWII. In fact, he also told me that after WWII, when the Harvard Faculty Club took horse meat steaks off the menu, there was an uproar, so they returned. Apparently horse meat remained on the menu until 1965:
William Eichler
William Eichler
4 years ago
Correction:  consumers and investors pay corporate taxes.
Carl_R
Carl_R
4 years ago
Investors pay them if the corporation isn’t able to recoup them all from their customers. As a practical matter, all of their competitors also pay  the same taxes, so all of them are passing through the taxes, and the investor rarely pays. If a corporation is unable to pass its taxes on to it’s customers, it will cease to exist, in which case, yes, the investor will pay.
njbr
njbr
4 years ago
If we are discussing carbon footprint, the richest 10% exude 50% of CO2 and the poorest 50% exude 10%of the CO2.
So give the wealthiest 10% the option of sterilization or impoverishment….
JimK
JimK
4 years ago
Reply to  njbr
Uh, so who exudes the other 40%?
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
Reply to  JimK
eh… the 40%?
Carl_R
Carl_R
4 years ago
Reply to  JimK
Reminds me of a Yogi Berra quote: Baseball is 90 percent mental and the other half is physical. 
Christoball
Christoball
4 years ago
Kids help you out when you are older if you raise them well. Our church used to sing to seniors at the rest home once a month. They were so grateful for someone from the outside making their day. Many of them had no one else except for staff.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
“A tax on corporations is not the answer. Corporations don’t really pay taxes anway. Consumers do.”

That’s a BS argument.   Raise the taxes on corporations.  And use the antitrust laws to mercilessly break them up.  Let’s see how the myriad companies that are no longer in a monopolistic set up, raise prices for the customers.

Business Man
Business Man
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
I agree with you.  Let’s tax them until they leave or there is very little left.  I mean, why should an entity that worked for the money have the right to keep a sizeable portion of it?  Most of these companies lean left big time, so I’d love nothing more than to see America’s big size 50 footprint right on their asses!  Get out and enjoy Ireland you Woke, Diversity-loving Capitalists!
And, let’s consider who’s really paying these taxes?  Are they people?  No, I don’t believe so.  I think much of their share ownership is held by these shadowy funds and institutions.  Like teachers, firefighters, union workers, 401ks.  I heard that there is a secret offshore tax avoidance scheme called CALPERS that owns almost a half trillion dollars of these horrible corporations!  I would think that an extra few billion a year in the federal government’s hands is far better than in some pension fund, wouldn’t you?
And as for those monopolies, I couldn’t agree with you more.  I want to see Google, Facebook, Twitter, Apple, Netflix, Amazon and every other leftist corporation (which is almost all of them) split into enough pieces that they look like sawdust in a sawmill!  Let’s split Google into 500 small businesses and then maybe they’ll stop censoring Right-Wing Wrongthinkers!  I can’t wait!
And Microsoft!  Let’s bring back that 90’s case of Anti-trust and drag that one out for a decade, like the last time.
You have such unique ideas.  I wonder why no one has thought of them before?
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
“Raise the taxes on corporations.  And use the antitrust laws to mercilessly break them up.”
Robbing those who produce something, while handing the loot to ambulance chasers who produce nothing yet spend like drunken sailors, is obviously such a great way to increase wealth…..
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
Are you Bernie Sanders? Elizabeth Warren?
Carl_R
Carl_R
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
You do realize, I presume, that if you tax all corporations with the same tax, all corporations, whether they are a monopoly or in a very competitive situation, will raise their prices and pass it through to their customers. Even in a competitive environment, they can raise prices because every competitor will also do the same, sooner or later. Any corporation unable to pass taxes on to their customers will cease to exist.
It is best to think of corporations, not as taxpayers, but as tax collectors. They collect taxes quietly, effectively, and silently from a myriad of consumers who don’t even realize that they are paying taxes at all. Does it ever occur to you that every time you buy groceries, or hardware, or pay a contractor to build a deck, or pay your cable bill, a significant portion of your payment is passed on to the government, and not just the sales tax that is added to the end? Probably 25% of the price of everything you spend money on flows to the government to pay corporate income taxes, property taxes, excise taxes, payroll taxes, etc.
I’m not opposed to corporate taxes, but it is best to remember that they can be very regressive, since the poor have to pay them, too, so you need to balance them with some progressive taxes. On the other hand, corporate taxes have some great advantages, too. The first is the most obvious, in that people never complain about them, since they don’t even realize they are paying them. Second, unlike income taxes, people who earn money from illegal sources, or who lie about their income, pay these taxes, too. Even Trump, who paid no income taxes, paid taxes whenever he bought anything.
MrGrummpy
MrGrummpy
4 years ago
I find it curious that eugenics has not been mentioned.
Trump Pandemic
Trump Pandemic
4 years ago
I agree!  Though banning kids will bankrupt social security even earlier.  Oh well
Blurtman
Blurtman
4 years ago
Very Agent Smith.
numike
numike
4 years ago
“Children should neither be seen nor heard from – ever again. ”
― W. C. Fields
Jojo
Jojo
4 years ago
Reply to  numike
“Go away kid.  You bother me”.
pretax
pretax
4 years ago
For a greener world, stop having kids. 
This is totally the elephant in the room, but who’s going to pay for my pension.
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
4 years ago
The best proposal is a reproductive buyout. $250000 UNTAXED, paid over 10 years. Smaller amounts if you already have at least one child. Gov’t pays for the snip-snip procedure. No more welfare.
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
Reply to  Six000mileyear
“Gov’t pays for the snip-snip procedure.”
Why “Gov’t?” Nothing’s stopping you from running around flaunting your cluelessness by making people such offers.
Back in the civilized era, people had lots of kids. Yet there was no welfare… Ditto currently civilized countries like Taliban Afghanistan.
In fact, if you bothered with actual observed reality; you’d find that societies with lots of kids, are the ones with the least welfare. Man, ain’t reality, like hard, and stuff…. Almost like math… Gov’t should, like, ban something…
Okienomics
Okienomics
4 years ago
Good news.  The same “Public Health” legal basis for requiring the clot shot will be used to impose mandatory birth control shots on the population.  Seeing that climate change is the ultimate public health crisis, it not only necessary, but critical to the survival of our species to stop reproducing.  Thank you great leaders!
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  Okienomics
I know you’re joking, but, I think there are many progressives that like your idea.
Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
He’s not. He’s just one of the many whackos on “your side”
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Red day for most of the energy portfolio, with a few still green. KRBN definitely seems to move countertrend to oil stocks…it was up over a percent today. Overall a 1 percent down day. Still up over 6% for the month.
I added a starter in GROY. I want to have a little exposure to mining….and I like the Gold Royalty story. I probably won’t add any others, just build a position in that one.
thimk
thimk
4 years ago
U.S. has world’s highest rate of children living in single-parent households . throw that into the mix. what are we promoting ??
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
Reply to  thimk
The single-parent household is largely in one demographic. And the single parent in that demographic has far more than ONE child.
njbr
njbr
4 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
By the way…among solo parents, 42% are white and 28% are black
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  njbr
That means that blacks have double the solo parent rate than whites since they are only 13% of the population yet account for 28% of solo parents.
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
I think roughly 2/3rd of black households are single parent. Shockingly high.
Rbm
Rbm
4 years ago
Ah lets start by eliminating any tax write off for having kids.   You know like the ones you used when raising a family.   Instead lets actually tax parents for having kids. Im tired of 80 percent or so of my property tax going to send someones else’s little brat to school.    So he or she can become a doctor then charge me exorbitantly on the other end when i am sick.  
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  Rbm
Living in a poorly educated country is far worse.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
I hate to break it to you, but it looks like having kids is being  incentivized more all the time in this country.
I hate to joke about taxing kids or banning kids…or eating kids as Mr. Swift suggested. (That story used to be in all the high school literature books as an example of satire. Not sure if they teach literature in high school anymore.)
It is quite possible that in a world of declining energy and declining resources….and ever-falling returns on ever-rising economic stimuli….that someday not too far in the future genocide will once again rear its ugly head. It’s already going on in a few places and I expect it to get worse. That’s how tribalism works.
Rbm
Rbm
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Incentivized well maybe for some.  My take is years of policies etc which make it harder for people to earn enough of a living to support a family.  Then throw in some bad decisions. 
Truthorcon-sequences
Truthorcon-sequences
4 years ago
Here in Ontario they pay $500 -600 per month per kid up to age 18. No limit. Some people bringing in 4-5 grand a month.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
4 years ago
“It’s one thing for developed countries like the US to demand a cleaner future,”
Quit QE.  Raise interest rates.  Quit with benefits greater than subsistence.  No more TBTFs – going forward risk management paramount.
Living within our means (and move away from throw away society) would improve environment.  Of course, it will never happen as rich would not be as rich.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
i am uncertain how you will implement this proposal; however, one possibility is to require a prospective mother to obtain a license to have children, demonstrating the capacity to raise intelligent and useful citizens, and the means to pay for their upbringing and education. This really is no different than requiring a driver’s license and car insurance. Is the right to bear children a protected right?
Without a license, the fetus is aborted–Democrats will love that idea.
Jojo
Jojo
4 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Making woman unable to get pregnant is what the so-called vaccine shots might be designed to do, once triggered by a future “booster” shot.  This is why the FDA calls the shots “gene therapy”.  
Once the population declines to a more green number of people, say 800 million to 1.2 billion worldwide, an antidote shot will be made available to change back womans genetic configuration.
Rbm
Rbm
4 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Haha and people call wearing a mask government over reach. 
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
Reply to  Rbm
Like I said, driver’s license and insurance–ensures a measure of responsibility and minimal skill.
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
“ensures a measure of responsibility and minimal skill.”
No it doesn’t. All it does, is hand stolen wealth and power to connected negative-skill retards in FIRE rackets and apparatchiks on the make. To the exact idiots you really wouldn’t want to have children, if you believed in eugenics…
Business Man
Business Man
4 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
I love your thought experiment.  It used to be that the way families raised their children was largely their business (assuming nothing illegal or cruel).
Imagine if we actually lived in a society where you had to prove you could complete a checklist of competencies and resources to have children.
Democrats have actually decided that they can get somewhere close to this concept by transferring their values to others’ children.  They do this through the schools, of course.  And then cultural indoctrination in the form of crybullying and shaming and then cancellation.
Gotta love these fine times.
Bungalow Bill
Bungalow Bill
4 years ago

Kids might as well learn as soon as possible American freedom has been sacrificed for tax enslavement. If you don’t pay, the flag comes to take your stuff. 

Americans have actually stopped having kids. Look at our declining birth rates. To pay for this stuff, America is going to need some new tax slaves. 

Now get in my belly!

StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
Reply to  Bungalow Bill
“Americans have actually stopped having kids. “
Animals in captivity almost always do.

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