We need war to prevent war say Trump’s former vice president Mike Pence, and former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. They propose a “devastating attack” to stop war. 
Washington and Baghdad face a dilemma over how to deal with Iranian-backed militias.
Devastating Strike On Iran
Pence and Pompeo say It’s Time to Strike Back at Iran.
Over the past three years, President Biden’s diplomats have repeatedly made overtures and concessions to Iran, which has only emboldened the regime’s aggressive behavior. The Biden administration rolled back the Trump administration’s maximum-pressure strategy, agreed to a $6 billion ransom payment for five American hostages, allowed Iran to export more oil to China than ever, and removed the Houthis’ terrorist designation. Worse, the Biden administration has continued trying to revive the Iran nuclear deal, which would put Tehran back on the fast track to obtaining nuclear weapons.
The result of this appeasement is war, beginning Oct. 7 with Hamas’s atrocities against Israel. In the four months since, the Biden administration has continued to resort to appeasement by declining to respond forcefully to Iran’s escalation and attacks.
No one wants war; every decent person despises it. Our first step should be to respond to Iran’s deadly attacks with devastating strikes: not only to end Tehran’s escalation and keep American soldiers safe, but to begin re-establishing the model of deterrence that keeps war at bay. The U.S. military must destroy high-value Iranian targets, including Tehran’s nuclear program, navy and oil infrastructure.
Facts of the Matter
- Trump unilaterally scrapped a deal with Iran that all of our allies and our own defense department said was working. As a result, Iran restarted work on a bomb. Details below.
- The US has made a mess in Iraq (which now threatens to boot US troops), Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, and Ukraine.
- Going back further, recall Vietnam, and further still when a US-sponsored coup toppled a democratically elected government in Iran.
- In 2014, US meddling in Ukraine, led by Senator John McCain, played a huge roll in the war.
- In 2020, Trump illegally assassinated Qasem Soleimani, Iran’s military leader, while on a peace mission in Iraq. President Trump renewed threats to hit back at Iran “VERY FAST AND VERY HARD” in the event of further strikes targeting Americans or U.S. assets.
- Warmonger fools like senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) piled on, pressuring Trump to ‘Crush Iranian Economy’ By Targeting Oil Refineries After Assassination
- Left Wing “Liberal Media” cheered the assassinations. The list includes CNN, NBC, the WSJ, CNBC, and USA Today.
- If Iran mistrusts us, they have ample reason. Who can logically blame Iran for wanting a nuclear bomb?
Results of US Meddling
- The US lost the war in Vietnam.
- The US lost the war in Afghanistan.
- The US “won” the war in Iraq, but installed a puppet government that now threatens to boot US troops. Winning the war in Iraq led to the formation of ISIS which former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair (who was our coalition partner), now admits.
- After taking out Libyan ruler Muammar Gaddafi, an action then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton bragged about, Libya descended into chaos, taken over by ISIS. Hillary Clinton bragged on tape “We Came, He Saw, He Died.“
- The US has troops in Syria, illegally, and that is what prompted the strike at US troops on the border of Syria and Jordan. As a result of illegally having troops where they do not belong, three US servicemen were killed. Now we allegedly need “devastating” war to prevent war.
- Hussein was a secular leader. His only rule was don’t mess with Hussein. There was freedom of religion in Iraq before, not now. Pockets of ISIS still exist in Iraq. ISIS did not exist until the US further destabilized the region with a stupid war.
Trump’s Top General Says Iran Honoring Nuke Deal
Flashback, September 26, 2017: Foreign Policy reports Trump’s Top General Says Iran Honoring Nuke Deal
The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on Tuesday joined other members of President Donald Trump’s cabinet in confirming that Iran is complying with the 2015 nuclear deal that has put a temporary halt to its nuclear weapons program.
“The briefings I have received indicate that Iran is adhering to its JCPOA obligations,” Gen. Joseph Dunford wrote in answers to questions in advance of his hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee, using an acronym for the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action.
April 19, 2019: IAEA Says Iran Abiding by Nuclear Deal
“Iran is implementing its nuclear commitments,” said Yukiya Amano, director-general of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). The agency has had access to “all the sites and locations in Iran which it needed to visit.”
Iran Honoring the Deal
- US State Department: Iran honoring the terms.
- Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff: Iran honoring the terms.
- International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA): Iran honoring the terms.
- Arms Control Association: Iran honoring the terms.
- All US European allies: Iran honoring the terms.
- Every other signee of the accord: Iran honoring the terms.
Had Trump made the same deal with Iran, most of his supporters would have cheered it. But Trump always thinks he can negotiate a better deal.
Trump undid the single best accomplishment of the Obama administration, punished Iranian citizens for their leader, and took much needed oil supply off the market.
Iranian enrichment increased at a rapid pace after Trump walked out. So much for sanctions and the much over-ballyhooed “Art of the Deal”.
Underlying Issue
An underlying idea, too infrequently mentioned, Is US one-sided policy on Israel is a fundamental cause of all these Mideast blowups.
The US typically supports Israel no matter what it does. In the UN, the US vetoes any proposals or statements that Israel does not want to see.
Iraq Threatens to Expel US Troops
Yesterday, I noted Iraq Threatens to Expel US Troops Over Air Strikes on Baghdad
Think of it this way: The US is on the verge of driving Iraq, ruled by Hussein (a secular leader), right into the arms of Iran.
Idiot’s Proposal
Warmonger fools effectively propose “we need war to prevent war.” Countless articles on the WSJ support this view. Most of mainstream media is in on the action.
I have blasted Biden mercilessly for months, and deservingly so. But on foreign policy and on tariffs, Trump is no savior. Right and Left, we have made a big mess of things for decades.
The US wasted trillions of dollars better spent at home, and all we achieved is making more enemies. Is Iran the biggest terrorist nation or is the US?
Instead of bombing Iran, I suggest we step back and assess our own huge roll in this Mideast quagmire.
Voting “no” on sending more aid to Israel would be a welcome start.
Addendum
A reader who understands the situation well responds:
I wanted to add to your recitation of some of the US history with Iran
- Iran was one of the first countries to express condolences to the US after 9/11. 9/11 was an Arab/Sunni enterprise not Persian/Shia.
- Iran coordinated (back channel) with the US effort to remove the Taliban. They were their enemy too.
- Rafsanjani, the reform president of Iran, sent out (backchannel again) peace feelers to the US.
- Their reward was shortly thereafter to be named one of the “axis of evil” followed quickly by a massive attack on one of the other members of the “axis” and the removal of its leadership.
DAMN RIGHT you want to have nuclear weapons to protect yourself. Have we touched North Korea? Gaddafi gave up his nuclear program and help identify how Pakistan was assisting countries in nuclear proliferation. His reward? Being sodomized with a broom handle, on his way to an unpleasant death when the US and Europe overthrew him. Hillary Clinton, as you noted, found great cause for humor in all of this.
In spite of all of this Iran was our “strange bedfellows” ally in the fight against ISIS.
Addendum from a reader who understands history:
I wanted to add to your recitation of some of the US history with Iran
DAMN RIGHT you want to have nuclear weapons to protect yourself. Have we touched North Korea? Gaddafi gave up his nuclear program and help identify how Pakistan was assisting countries in nuclear proliferation. His reward? Being sodomized with a broom handle, on his way to an unpleasant death when the US and Europe overthrew him. Hillary Clinton, as you noted, found great cause for humor in all of this.
In spite of all of this Iran was our “strange bedfellows” ally in the fight against ISIS.
Yes they were because ISIS was an existential threat to all in the region. Once overthrown everyone went back to their self-allotted roles.
Say what???
Iran funds a slew of terror groups in the ME looking to destabilize the region. They beat and kill woman who refuse to wear hijabs. They imprison and kill many of their own citizens for disagreeing with TPTB. And much more. Iran isn’t a country to look up to. Sheese.
Some Iran funds, Some Turkey funds, some the Saudi and the Emirates, some Israel and some the US.
In sport there are usually just two sides, politics is more complicated.
The US funds a slew of NGOs in the ME looking to destabilize the region. The US supports entities that kill tens of thousands of uncooperative inhabitants of coveted lands. I can’t see how being bombed to oblivion is better than being imprisoned. But that’s just me.
Whataboutism is a poor retort. What the USA Is doing might just be because of what Iran is doing. Which came first? The chicken or the egg?
jojo is a fake jew
jojo is a zionist prostitute
jojo is a Israeli
jojo is a Israeli prostitute who loves icbm. this is why Jews get kicked out of every country. kniving to the end. they convinced America to attack Afghanistan n Iraq.
Mish, you reminded me of the fckn, utterly disgusting footage at the time : We came, we saw and he(Khadaffi) died….Billary Clinton chuckled gleefully …. tortured and sodomised she forgot to add… The US is indeed the greatest rule based nation on earth ….very exceptional on top of that…. but …Putin is a war criminal…..of course
Plz God protect Iran and let them get a nuclear bomb.
fake white Jews = isrsel
KISS: keep it simple silly.
There’s a lot of money being made right now.
That’s it. Seriously. Nothing more than that.
Can these people spell Gulf of Hormuz?
Then again, it would be very Green and reduce oil consumption.
I’m guessing that Iran must be only two years away from an atomic bomb.
Again.
Has it been 20 years or only 10?
See also Condoleezza (“Mushroom Cloud”) Rice.
Dear Americans, maybe you have to many enemies on this planet. Maybe you should try to reduce the number of them and maybe some of the remaining enemies will be weaker, because they are no longer surpported by the former enemies.
– We need more war to prevent war…
These idiotic proposals have been sloshing around for decades now:
– We need more taxes, because taxes are too high, and we still can’t collect enough.
– We need more workers, because the work isn’t getting done.
– We need more unions, because they help protect the workers, from work.
– We need more weapons, because we keep running out of the ones we have.
– We need more windmills, because the ones we have don’t seem to be working when the wind stops.
– We need more Solar Panels because the Sun doesn’t stay sunny for long enough, to fully charge the ones we have.
– We need more EV chargers, because they don’t sell because they need charging too often.
– We need to build more underground pipelines, because the ones we built get easily blown up.
Etc…
Isn’t this article an oxymoron? Sounds like this, If we want to avoid a war..WE GOTTA
HAVE A WAR. Strange thinking. All the while we support nations that want to destroy
This nation. We sell them military machinery. Biden gives these nations OUR MONEY. The dems and rhino’s are demonized, and they wonder why. Even democrats root word is DEMON. They go against EVERY single word of God. They don’t even fear him.
why would anyone fear something that doesn’t exist and is merely a creation of the those who want to control society to keep the plebs under control
US misbehaviour and incompetence in international wars does not absolve those shitty regimes from being protected nor their reprobate leaders. All that emotive stuff as if there’s some notion of loyalty and betrayal is misguided commentry by Mish.
These bad, mad, sad countries do require crushing, and they are all better off under western colonialism than they ever have been under their own regimes. It might be unfashionable to say, but where do all refugees flee from and run to, and why?!
They get fed into Soylent Green machines. Food for the pigs. World population gets reduced. World resource use declines. Climate change forestalled.
Write me in for president!
“countries do require crushing”? Obviously, you sympathize with Pence and Pompeo’s warmongering.
I’m opposed to any kind of US military strike or move on Iran, especially in a period and at a time when opposition to the bourgeois-clerical regime and its own military adventures is growing. A US attack would be detrimental to that popular momentum, and would be turned against those forces fighting against the murderous Iranian regime.
But your perception of the character and ambitions of the Iranian regime is so far from reality. Try reading “Germany and Iran” by Matthias Kuntzel or peruse his website http://www.matthiaskuentzel.de/contents/kategorie/english/?lang=en and inform yourself better on the historic influence of Nazi Party propaganda and Jew-hating in Iran and the Middle East generally. Maybe you’d get over your apparent hatred for Israel and stop blaming it for the situation in the ME.
One good reason to oppose it is simply that the west risks biting off more than it can chew in terms of numbers of conflicts in the world, and spread of stressed resources.
Looking at it from an economic POV, Iran is oil and gulf/red sea trade, that’s big…
This review of the Tucker chat with Putin is of keen interest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hPixKzXj4Y
I’m glad Pence and Pompeo are on the shelf and not in it.
Predominantly Islamic nations are not good at self government for obvious reasons.
Iran is a large and surprisingly diverse modern nation (as are we).
They are not well represented by their current government (as are we).
We are not at war with them.
We can and do reserve the right to strike down terrorist attackers wherever we find them.
This is not a desirable state of affairs, but it will have to do for the times we are in now.
I think Trump comprehends this. Not so much any other candidates at this point.
However, it is still only the presidency, but our president should represent us.
We are largely ruled by committee, which in our current state of corruption has become outright dangerous.
IDF has eradicated almost all Hamas power in Brooklyn sized Gaza, and once evacuating the over 1.5 million refugees from this last neighborhood to relative safety, will finish the job. That will be quite a scene. Memorable.
Offing only 30,000, this is amazingly efficient urban warfare and sets a new standard for anywhere else it becomes necessary.
The rebuilding will not cost nearly as much.
They can’t rebuild until all the terror tunnels are collapsed and filled in. Then there is the issue of lack of water. They needed 150 desalination plants prior to Oct 7th. Gaza has no real natural resources and little natural water. How do you build a state with no resources and no water? You can’t do it. The previous population of 2.5 million was far past the lands carrying capacity.
This is why Gaza should be totally depopulated. But the world’s powers have no idea what to do with 2.5 million Gazan REAL refugees. So the easiest solution is to put them back where they came from and keep the UN aid trucks rolling in daily. Problem solved.
Give the Palestinians back their land and ship the settlers off to Arizona.
Nobody talks about the landscape of Iran. A lot of mountains. Bombing doesn’t work with mountain terrain but have fun trying. Also sanctions. They already have them. It didn’t work. But what do I know. I’m only a measly retired combat officer of a couple decades. My opinion is worthless because I know stuff and a lot more stuff that doesn’t align with legacy media so therefore I am wrong…meh. Have fun with with BS and another entry into the gates of hell with no way out.
That’s what neutron bombs are for. The radiation kills everything with minimal damage to the surroundings.
physics doesn’t work like that… you have uneven distribution due to topography. yes some particles pass through mountains, but most of the impact is via the food and water chains, and not constrained by borders.
Or Kinetic Bombardment. It is not a hazard that the DOD wants to either buy or rent Starships from Musk for military purposes.
Feb 10 is the new lunar year, the year of the dragon. SPX closed above 5000. The Dow [1M] might be an UT.
It’s amazing! NASDAQ past 16k. DJUI heading for 40k. And yet still, everyone wants interest rates reduced.
it’s not a “want” though, it’s driven by the bond market.
Biden and the deep state need WW3 in order for Biden to stay in office. It’s the only way he won’t be removed. Most people would vote for an incumbent during a world war.
“Pence and Pompeo…”
Two P’s in a pod. “No one wants war; every decent person despises it.” Obviously, they want war. Bush Jr. said no president wants war, but allegedly his biographer said he wanted to be a war president. The Gaslighting never stops.
It’s a question of time. Some more years with American borders open and ome ayatollah will win presidential elections
Thanks Mish for a platform with the ability to speak and debate freely, this is the world’s only chance for real lasting peace!
Someone gave a thumbs down to that reply from Bill. I evened the score to zero. I have no idea why anyone would object to that comment.
Thanks Mish for allowing me to be your inverse, on your blog.
You should add the ability to show WHO gave the TU/TD like Disqus does. People need to be responsible for their actions.
Ukraine is the biggest waste of money, reinstate the Minsk agreement and let’s see what happens, let Zelensky play piano with his penis and sell all his villas and mansions if he needs money. Trump and Putin could have peace in 30 minutes if we could just replace Senators like mine in NC, RINO POS THOM TILLIS
Cut the crap. Trump can’t finish blabbering in 30 minutes much less end a War he contributed to encouraging Ukraine / Europe.
I an an Independent so I don’t give two figs about either the Dems or the Reps.
Be VERY clear…Putin and the Russians in general only know imperialist expansion / communist expansion for HUNDREDS of years. They have been INVADING their Neighbors for HUNDREDS of Years. Except for a few decades starting in the 80’s / 90’s they have ALWAYS been about conquering or controlling.
There is ONE person to blame for the current WAR in Ukraine and that is Putin. He foolishly believes he’s Peter the Great. He’s NOT and clearly the Russian military has become a second / third class military that really can only throw numbers at a problem.
The US can Arm Ukraine with actual up to date weapons, instead of most of the old crap the US has sent to date.
The Russians will eventually Fail, just like they did in Afghanistan in the 80’s.
Otherwise they eventually Invade Poland, the Baltic States and possibly Germany, if they can ever get that far. At that point there WILL be US troops on the ground or in the air, instead of just shipping artillery shells, missiles and tanks/ armored vehicles.
The US doesn’t survive by itself, we learned that in WW2, even though idiots tried to ignore / discount the Third Reich / Nazis and Japanese atrocities for way too long.
BOOM Pearl Harbor.
This is as clear as History repeating itself, if the Russians / Putin are not stopped in Ukraine.
Finland knows that, Sweden knows that, Poland knows that. Romania and Moldova knows that.
Everyone in Eastern Europe knows the BRUTAL oppression they went through not that many years ago.
Cut the crap. Only Russia can withdraw. And the only way they do is that they take too much pain to keep going.
Putin couldn’t care less about the people he’s sending to die, if he can capture Ukraine OIL and Gas Reserves. Money in his pockets.
He wants to acquire population also. That is one of their main aims.
The Empire is expansionist. From 13 states to across the North American continent, even going to war with Mexico to gain New Mexico, Arizona and California. Winning control of The Philippines after another war. In the 1800’s, the U.S. military forced the hermit kingdoms of Japan and Korea, to allow U.S. businesses to trade with them. Humiliated, Japan’s ruler decided they were going to modernize their military, which eventually allowed them to take over Korea in 1910, then set their sights on China, and with a modern navy and air force, eventually Pearl Harbor, which was its own kingdom until the U.S. took that over, removing the king.
Of coarse none of that includes how the first Americans were treated as the Empire expanded across the continent.
History is rather dirty and none have clean hands.
That goes back all the way to the Anglo Saxons fighting Rome, and looking for lebensraum across the sea in Celtic Britain.
Noting of course that Hitlers cleansing of the Untermensch for Lebensraum was totally different to what Israel has been doing to the Palestinians for the last 70 years, or what Europeans did in the Americas and Australia.. or many others back and forth
The key point is that the West does not have any moral high ground when it comes to murdering people for land and wealth
The Russians are a military joke and UKR will win.. yet Russia is a threat to all of Europe. FFS
I 100% disagree, let’s try cutting Iran off, keep the money from coming in, get rid of the politicians that sympathize with them first. I personally would just love to hear we are talking to world leaders about peace.no more fake Russian collusion etc.
We tried cutting of the money, in the process made more enemies.
Trump thought he could get a better deal.
As a direct result of this stupidity Iran is closer to a bomb.
Sometimes war, is as inevitable as a big dump after a big meal, and just has to happen.
Brutus declared a war on Iran and Trump.
Caesar:
Let me have men about me that are fat,
Sleek-headed men and such as sleep a-nights.
Yond Cassius (Obama) has a lean and hungry look,
He thinks too much; such men are dangerous.
Et Tu, Brute?
CASSIUS
Why, he that cuts off twenty years of life
Cuts off so many years of fearing death.
BRUTUS
Grant that, and then is death a benefit:
So are we Caesar’s friends, that have abridged
His time of fearing death. Stoop, Romans, stoop,
And let us bathe our hands in Caesar’s blood
Up to the elbows, and besmear our swords:
Then walk we forth, even to the market-place,
And, waving our red weapons o’er our heads,
Let’s all cry ‘Peace, freedom and liberty!’
Good Summary . . . But nothing is going to change . . .
Yes, I constantly say at Zero Hedge:
NOTHING.WILL.HAPPEN.
Oh crap. I just experienced near total agreement with the author on a political post. I’m having an existential crisis now.
Damn, I try hard to offend everyone and look what happens.
You royally screwed up this time, Mish. You got two of us in an existential crisis of 100% agreement.
yea sorry I agreed with you too
[ROTFLOL]
Do so and you stand a good chance of losing your next election.
The 14B to Israel, minus 2.5B to fight the Hootie, will create high paying jobs in the
US to produce Iron Dome and other bombs so Israel can defend itself in the jungle.
Recycling isn’t good enough, bc we are depleted. Orders for high end “industrial” goods are rising. The cost of F-15 EX is 130 million. The cost of GPS kit is 20K
That eort of says it all. Israel controls our elections. I find that deeply offensive.
Don’t let the door hit you in the arse on your way to turning in your citizenship.
Sometimes you need to make a point with people/countries who don’t pay attention to previous warnings to not do certain things. With people, you punch them in the nose. With countries like Iran or NK, you hit certain strategic points in their country and then invite them to make the next move.
As to “Who can logically blame Iran for wanting a nuclear bomb?”, I say, go ahead and make the bomb if it makes you feel any good.
But you will have zero chance to actually use it before your whole country gets preemptively eliminated if we suspect that you might actually try to use such a weapon.
With an open border, conventional deployment of a nuclear weapon is no longer necessary. A grand surprise may be in store.
This is from almost a half century ago –
Suitcase Bomb (youtube.com)
Anything you can carry is not going to do a whole lot of damage.
Depends on where you carry it.
If say that suitcase bomb went off at the Hoover dam and destroyed it, it would essentially wipe out the water supply for 20 million Americans, cause massive down stream flooding into populated areas and take offline a significant amount of power generation.
Or imagine one went off next to say a nuclear power plant causing all it’s reactors to go into meltdown mode like another Chernobyl.
Neither scenario, assuming that they could actually be accomplished successfully, still would not be debilitating to the country.
They would create a bit of panic but piss us off enough to come after whomever is fingered as the perp and cost would not be an object.
I doubt the US could relocate 20 million people should the Lake Mead water supply become unavailable.
If you think we have a housing problem, imagine what would happen trying to rehouse 20 million people plus the economy those people generate (half of California GDP would likely disappear).
One on the Three Gorges Dam would truly be horrific.
you watch too much Youtube
I am not surprised that needle brain Pence would suggest such a move.
And for those suggesting so the US needs to bomb Iran, if you have investments in US, European, Asia and/or Middle East countries, stocks, bonds, etc., you can kiss those gains goodbye.
Breathtakingly stupid…. no wait, outright delusional. If they can’t defeat Hamas, Hezbollah or the Houthis, how could they defeat Iran? If they could run out of missiles against China in two weeks ( estimate), how do they defeat Iran?
So, they bomb Iran and then get a disaster in the Persian Gulf of missiles and mines and speed boats and $150 a barrel oil. Also, Hezbollah and Iran may have enough missiles to level half of Israel. When do these warmongers ever admit that the US is not omnipotent?
The biggest problem with this analysis is that you are trusting that a large group of people, who have made their careers lying, were telling us the truth regarding Iran adhering to the JPCOA. I fear it is not quite as simple as either you or Pence make it out to be. millennia of hatred in the region are hard to overcome.
Where did the “millennia of hatred” meme come from? More like Western meddling in the region starting around 1914.
Iran has needed bombing since the Carter administration. What’s the hold up?
People should listen to Col. MacGregor about military action against Iran as well as the current state of the US military. Here is a recent interview with Tom Woods.
https://youtu.be/3nHbRB8PAfo?si=w4oZw3KP9P061SJo
In short, it would be a major disaster with a significant loss to American prestige (if that’s possible given recent plunges)
How is it that the neocons lead us from one military disaster to the next and nothing is ever learned. Instead, I suggest we bomb limp wristed Lindsey Graham, Mike Pompeo, Victoria Nuland and the whole neocon nest of parasites.
“How is it that the neocons lead us from one military disaster to the next and nothing is ever learned.”
Uh… Idiots?
Or, in the case of Kristol and perhaps a few others: Relative lightweights, but with all of whatever brains they do have, concentrated on the language end of things, enabling them to build impressive facades for what is ultimately hollow arguments.
Not very different from currently popular “AI” language models, come to think of it…..
Strauss himself was not at all a lightweight. But he would also likely fit in better in Qom, than in GW era DC.
Or is it the case that they really don’t care care at all about the US and its people but are keen on exploiting the US for Israel’s benefit.
I thought General Westmoreland died in 2005.
Iran could have many nukes after the deal with Obama expired. Obama spanked Maidan for the Banderas. Gaddafi was Hillary punching bag. UK loaded on him the Lockerbie crash, bc his mama was Jewish (relatives in Israel). Justice was done by the invisible swamp. Madam Albright bombed Serbia, bc a Serb saved her life when she was a little girl during the Nazi regime. General Suleimani was the architect of the Iranian empire. He was a gift to Trump. Biden cut our losses in Afghanistan, but stayed focused in Syria and Iraq to stabilize the ME. Israel might absorb 2.4 million Palestinians in one state if Bibi can eliminate little Hitler hiding in his dungeons with his dragons.
You missed a risk. In the next very few years several more states will build nuclear bombs having seen that a state that voluntarily had given them up, has been invaded by a nuclear-armed neighbor. A few more will be in Europe, and Japan, South Korea and Taiwan will join the nuclear club. They already have the tech and the nuclear material and can do it in a couple of weeks.
Israel might absorb the west bank Palestinians, before absorbing 2.4 million Palestinians from Gaza, as full citizens in one little state, the United Holy land, that respects Judaism, Islam and Christianity and all citizens rights. It can be done only after eliminating Hamas the Nazi regime in Gaza. It will take decades. If it can’t be done the 3 whore states might use nukes to eliminate each other and its neighbors in the ME.
Wars are a tool of diplomacy. The pacifists can stick their heads in the sand.
Brutus declared a war on Trump.
Interesting scenario. I don’t know what the Israelis are planning to do with Gaza or the West Bank but the existing situation is unsustainable. They know that.
Israel has no intention of allowing Muslims, or Christians, to occupy Judea. It is the god given land and all non believers must be expunged.
And the extent of ‘Israel’ is quite a bit bigger than current Israel
IMHO, the more countries that have nuclear weapons the better.
If nuclear is truly the deterrence people believe it is, then there will be far fewer invasion of country X by country Y (including regime changes) and an overall need for fewer and smaller armed forces.
The idea that nuclear weapons would allow smaller armed forces was prevalent in the 1950’s. Unfortunately, it also meant that the tripwire to using nuclear weapons would be much lower so paradoxically to ensure that you won’t have to go nuclear you have to still have a large army as before.
Keep your eye on the Neocon’s prize – Russia and its vast natural resources, which was tried 23 years ago (https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/products_services/promo/the-plot-to-seize-russia-ebook-now-available/).
Messing with Iran is only to get Russia to respond.
No, Iran has always been in the cross hairs since Netanyahu wants America to attack Iran for the sake of Israel.
Russia is a booby prize. Everything there can be found elsewhere.
100% in error.
Russias human capital alone dwarfs the Wests moronathon. Look at their weapons systems? Why can their fighter jet hover in the air and their hypersonics cannot be stopped?
I’ve worked exclusively with phd tier IT developers in Belarus for 8 almost years. The west is an intellectual joke by comparison.
The west is suffocating on TV brainwashed uneducated freaks – we are way WAY BEHIND. We will never catch up – we’ve been lapped and they know it.
IMO the problem is the retards in America believe the lies they tell themselves about who they are. A nation of downies who think they are intellectually and psychologically normal. Not smart – not kind – pretty toxic.
We are all living in a lie here in the west, a simulation of reality where almost everything you think is real or true is a fabrication designed to deprive you of your humanity. That’s why everyone is on psych drugs. The imposition of falsities corrodes our sense of self. Psych drugs keeps the remnants teetering but not collapsing.
no one likes to hear this but it’s true.
Great parody! I laughed all the way through.
I would also suggest be careful what you wish for. Without a doubt Russia will support Iran and that could end up with a few US aircraft carrier groups at the bottom of the sea.
Or no more Russian air force and Karg Island a pile of rubble.
The west has already stolen everything from everywhere. Now the rapacious blood sucking beast grows weak and desperately needs to bulk up with more thieving.
The catch end of a Seine net is not filled with fish it’s filled with cash. Russian Resources are just mountains of cash the colonial empire needs to loot in order to last another 50 years. Without Venezuela’s & Irans Oil and Russia’s massive resources educated humans, seafood, minerals energy, agriculture, fertilizers the west will accelerate into a withering state then implode all with a few years.
We live in the west like this because we made the brown people live like that. Favelas and shanty’s. The albino devils will blow up the world rather than face defeat – assuming they will rise again from the ashes.
Prove me wrong?
You are not wrong.
Albino devils?
Any leadership of a major country that tries to work cooperatively with the major powers other than the U.S. is generally assassinated or otherwise removed from power. This includes our own presidents.
In this case the west seems to be increasingly interested in starting another military crusade in the Middle East.
Yes because creating war to prevent war has worked out so well the past 70 years. But let’s keep trying the same failed policies over and over again. Sooner or later they’re going to yield positive results, right?
Nice idea but what do you mean by “step back” and give details on how you would do this “step back”?
Phase out foreign aid, including weapons, to Israel and most sovereign panhandlers. Or is the only way to have allies to buy them? We need the money here as to continue to print unmercifully will exacerbate our own problems. The game has changed, and we need to face up to it.
One detail does not a policy make. You need more. Foreign aid is about $70 billion this year. Here is the detailed breakdown for 2023.
ForeignAssistance.gov- Dashboard
Who do you cut and why?
But muh Raytheon stonks!
Take all the US troops out of Syria, Iraq. Have an even-handed policy on Israel. Don’t Give Israel any money.
That was easy.
That’s is just a handful of troops and what do mean as evenhanded? Does it mean the two state solution and if so, if it turns bad and Hamas or a Hamas-like group takes over, what would you do?
Evenhanded: Nonpartisan. Non biased. Don’t side with Israel every time a UN vote comes up on Israel whether they are right or wrong.
UN resolutions don’t mean much. What actions would you take?
It doesn’t matter what I think. My thoughts on this topic and a cup of coffee at your local diner are worth about $3.00.
However, UN resolutions do matter in their perception in the rest of the world. The US was already losing “allies” in Africa, Latin America, the Middle East, etc., due to its Pax Americana and Yankee Dollar hegemony. This latest iteration of siding with Israel every time is just adding another piece of straw on the camel’s back.
No human in the world is unbiased.
Yes, no one is perfect, therefore no country’s executive leadership is unbiased.
At the same time, when attempting to draw up a peace agreement between two adversaries, the arbiter has to be neutral otherwise their ruling, assessments, recommendations, will be viewed as tilted and will not be respected. When arbiter decisions are not respected there is no deal. This is why there has not been a US negotiated peace deal in the Middle East since Carter.
This is why China, however, was able to cut a deal between Saudi Arabia and Iran.
The Iranians would absolutely love that, others in the region not so much.
mish you Rip!!
brave men are not afraid to speak the truth
10 years ago, I would have never agreed with your opinion. Today, it makes sense to me. Live and learn.
Dr. Strangelove, 1964. History repeats itself, first as farce, then as tragedy(?) Hopefully Pence is in DC with the rest of the district of criminals and not in flyover when the hypersonics show up.
Can’t wait until the Pentagon officials start wringing their hands over the perceived ‘mineshaft gap’.
The Iranian Theocracy is objectionable for a million reasons.
Strangely, the silly Iranian slogan has now turned out to be true.
America is the Great Satan.
But that is not right really.
The US Government is now the most significant locus of Evil on Earth. The US Government is the Great Satan, not America itself.
And that is really saying something when competing with the Putins and Xis and Mullahs of the world.
Tom speaking truth 👏 🙌 💯
I agree with your assessment of the American government. But your perceptions of Iran is driven by said government’s propaganda. Before you launch a war in a Democracy, you need to get the populous on board by vilifying the other side. And AIPAC want a war with Iran and their tribes members control the US press.
EXACTLY!