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Real GDP Rises 2.8 Percent in Advance Estimate, What About Recession?

GDP rose 2.8 percent in the BEA’s 2024 Q2 advance estimate. The real final sales estimate is 2.0 percent. Expect major negative revisions.

Data from the BEA chart by Mish.

Chart Notes

  • Gross Domestic Product (GDP) and Gross Domestic Income (GDI) are two measures of the same thing. Product produced should match sales and income. They do over time, but this is a large ongoing discrepancy (see next chart).
  • Real Final Sales is the bottom line estimate of GDP. The difference between GDP and Real Final Sales is inventory adjustment which nets to zero over time.
  • Real means Inflation adjusted using the GDP deflator as calculated by the BEA as the adjustment.

GDP rose 2.8 percent vs a rise of 2.0 percent for real final sales. The latter is the better number to watch because the difference is inventory adjustment that nets to zero over time.

Congrats once again to GDPNow for beating the consensus estimate. The final forecast for GDPNow, out yesterday, was 2.6 percent vs the Econoday consensus of 2.0 percent.

But GDI is missing in action, and that’s a much better number to watch, especially at economic turns.

Real GDP and GDI in Billions of Dollars 2024 Q2 Advance Estimate

Advance GDP 2024 Q2

Real gross domestic product (GDP) increased at an annual rate of 2.8 percent in the first quarter of 2024, according to the “advance” estimate released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis.

  • The increase in real GDP primarily reflected increases in consumer spending, private inventory investment, and nonresidential fixed investment. Imports, which are a subtraction in the calculation of GDP, increased. [See note below, on this widely misunderstood idea.]
  • The increase in consumer spending reflected increases in both services and goods. Within services, the leading contributors were health care, housing and utilities, and recreation services.
  • Within goods, the leading contributors were motor vehicles and parts, recreational goods and vehicles, furnishings and durable household equipment, and gasoline and other energy goods.
  • The increase in private inventory investment primarily reflected increases in wholesale trade and retail trade industries that were partly offset by a decrease in mining, utilities, and construction industries. Within nonresidential fixed investment, increases in equipment and intellectual property products were partly offset by a decrease in structures. The increase in imports was led by capital goods, excluding automotive.

Understanding Imports

The BEA says “Imports, which are a subtraction in the calculation of GDP, increased.

That statement is misleading if not inaccurate. Imports do not change GDP given the “D” stands for “Domestic” and imports are not domestic.

However, the BEA needs to subtract exports because procedures are such that imports are included in sales when they they shouldn’t be.

There is nothing devious about the procedure. It would be impossible calculate what percentage of every product is foreign.

The GDP-GDI Gap

The ongoing discrepancy between GDP and GDI is enormous.

The GDP-GDI gap is similar to the gap between the household survey and the establishment survey job reports.

Jobs Much Weaker than Expected, the Unemployment Rate Ticks Up

Counting negative revisions, there was unexpected weakness across the board in June, especially private and manufacturing payrolls.

Data from the BLS, chart by Mish

For discussion, please see my July 5th report Jobs Much Weaker than Expected, the Unemployment Rate Ticks Up

Job Stats vs One Year Ago

  • Nonfarm Payrolls (Blue): +2,611,000
  • Employment (Red): +195,000
  • Full Time Employment (Yellow): -1,551,000

So, is GDP or GDI more likely to be accurate?

Data is weakening nearly everywhere with generally negative revisions as well, especially in jobs.

Weak Data Says a Recession Has Already Started, Let’s Now Discuss When

On July 8, I commented Weak Data Says a Recession Has Already Started, Let’s Now Discuss When

Since then, economic reports have gotten weaker.

I discussed the weakening reports yesterday in Dudley Changes His Mind, Says “Fed Needs to Cut Rate Now” to Avoid Recession

Citing the McKelvey recession indicator, former NY Fed President Bill Dudley, wants the Fed to cut rates now. It’s too late Bill, recession has started.

Click on the above link for a series of charts, one shows delinquencies rising blamed on falling income.

As for GDP and jobs, expect negative revisions to both, perhaps a year from now. That’s how lagging the reports are.

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Richard F
Richard F
1 year ago

Have had a small relief rally in Yen carry trades as consequence of GDP numbers, which is considered a measure of risk assumption by markets.
Will it get sold into is what am watching for.
Although Yen has had intervention the recent selloff in Yen carry across the board of pairs suggests that all is not well in markets with risk aversion coming to forefront.

Something bound to affect risk is the Flooding which is occurring in China. Big losses of real items for Chinese people. This will be affecting consumer demand for consumer products especially from Europe. Not talked about at all as to impact in financial press.

Globalization is in process of getting downsized but it is not over by any measure.
Some of discussion is about import and export numbers. What currency market responds about this has some relevance to future GDP outlook.

There is no validation of any rethinking that things have bottomed and there is some reversal in the near term leaning towards more robust economic output.

Spencer
Spencer
1 year ago

Mish, I think your tracking the deceleration in N-gDp.

joe
joe
1 year ago

A soft landing has never happend. This time is different.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 year ago
Reply to  joe

Alan Greenspan circa 1994 has words for you, mister.

CaptainCaveman
CaptainCaveman
1 year ago
Reply to  joe

If this time is different, it will be only because the government finally figured out how to offload the entire recession onto just the lower half of America. So, when you average it all out, all the numbers looks fine. It begs the question, do most “traditional” economic metrics even matter anymore? They might as well keep tabs on how the haves are doing and then a separate set of numbers for how the have-nots are faring!

Michael Engel
Michael Engel
1 year ago

Since May 2023 full time jobs are down 1.5M, mostly due to retirement. The healthcare sector benefit from them. Payroll is up 2.6M. They consume more.

MikeC711
MikeC711
1 year ago
Reply to  Michael Engel

There is also the affect of full time jobs going away and people getting multiple part time jobs to try to bridge the gap. AI will make this worse, but that will take a while.

Maximus Minimus
Maximus Minimus
1 year ago

The discrepancy between talking heads ala Dudley and data just confirms that recessions are banned.
Every time when it looks like the economy is going to keel over, the central bankers will cut to the bone. The BoC already made two cuts, despite the red hot housing market that leave the US bubble in the dust.
These quacks have permanently gutted the normal economic cycle, and none of them figured out yet that this uncharted territory that need new metrics.

JakeJ
JakeJ
1 year ago

Real gross domestic product (GDP) increased at an annual rate of 2.8 percent in the first quarter of 2024

Looks like you got Q1 wrong. Q1 GDP rose 1.4%. Q2 GDP rose 2.8% according to the advance estimate. You need to correct this. Past that, the advance estimate suggests economic acceleration in Q2. You mention real final sales and the GDP/GDI gap, and revisions, but I am more confused than enlightened considering the other weak indicators. More explanation would help.

JakeJ
JakeJ
1 year ago
Reply to  JakeJ

Come on, Mish, make the correction. It won’t kill you. I think it was an honest mistake, but it was a mistake.

Spencer
Spencer
1 year ago

Dudley also said: Paying interest on excess reserves made money banking textbooks written before 2008 “obsolete“,  Dudley thus shares responsibility unaffordable housing.

Fisher said economics “is an exact science”. Rates-of-change in money flows, the volume and velocity of money, the proxy for R-gDp has been rising since 2023.

Alex
Alex
1 year ago

It’s an election year and Hitler is at the gates. Lies, damn lies and government statistics will steer the narrative and save “Our Democracy!” Vote Cackling Kamala for President and together we’ll defy logical and common sense and create a DEI landscape of milk and honey: a gay parade in every neighborhood and a dick with every chick! F the creepy, twisted and corrupt Democratic Party!

Last edited 1 year ago by Alex
N C
N C
1 year ago
Reply to  Alex

Don’t forget, Kamala was never the border czar but the border has never been more secure anyways.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 year ago
Reply to  Alex

It’s entertaining that by promoting tolerance and inclusion, somehow that means Democrats want to somehow force things on YOU. They don’t want to force things on anyone, unlike the GOP who wants to tell women what they can and cannot do with their bodies. JD Vance supports tracking women’s menstruation to verify they are not illegally aborting fetuses.

MikeC711
MikeC711
1 year ago

They want incarceration for misGendering. They demand celebration of transitioning (in any public school, workplace, … don’t try tolerance or you will be canceled). They are no longer happy using “hate speech” as an end-run to outlaw free speech … they now have compelled speech (it’s not just what you can’t say … but what you HAVE to say). And if my kids public school transitions him behind my back … they are forcing it on me. Sorry, but if you look at reality, your statement is silly. And if you don’t think taxpayers of conscience are paying to destroy the children in the womb, then you have not looked at ACA, you have not looked at Planned Parenthood, and you have not seen how the terminators cook the books to keep getting taxpayer money.

CaptainCaveman
CaptainCaveman
1 year ago
Reply to  MikeC711

And you didn’t even cover the laundry list of things that Democrats forced (or wanted to force) every American to swallow during the Covid days. Many of those things never even went away. Not to mention all the other things they currently want to force Americans to adopt in the name of their sacred Climate Change scam.

Walt
Walt
1 year ago

I’m rooting for ya, broken clock! Maybe we’ll finally get that recession.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 year ago
Reply to  Walt

Someone has to try and keep up with the Peter Schiffs and Michael Snyders of the world. To zero tomorrow!

steve
steve
1 year ago

Well, peaches, tomatoes, peppers, melons, and sweet corn are starting to come in. Food stamps can buy these. This ought to help for a while. YUM YUM.

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