Reassessing the New Hampshire Senate Race Odds, Who’s Really Ahead?

538 New Hampshire Senate Forecast as of Nov. 4, 2022, AT 12:43 PM

Did Republican Odds of Winning the Senate Jump By One Seat or Three?

What’s changed since my October 27 post Did Republican Odds of Winning the Senate Jump By One Seat or Three?

Quite a bit actually.

  • Nate Silver had Democrats winning the Senate 54-46, now Republicans 54-46
  • Nate Silver had Democrats winning Pennsylvania 60-40, now Democrats winning 53-47
  • Nate Silver had Democrats winning Georgia 51-49, now Republicans winning 57-43

Spotlight New Hampshire 

Regarding New Hampshire, I am up from saying “Really!?” three times then to five times now.

Incredibly, Nate Silver has only moved slightly from Hassan 78-22 favorite to Hassan 73-27 despite a massive shift in the polls.

October 26: Which Polls Are Influencing New Hampshire

538 New Hampshire Polls as of OCT. 26, 2022, AT 8:43 PM

I brought New Hampshire into my radar based on the then most recent poll. 

Check out what has happened since.

November 4: Which Polls Are Influencing New Hampshire

538 New Hampshire Polls as of Nov. 4, 2022, AT 12:43 PM

I believe it’s important to take note of trends and shifts heading into the final days. So does Silver, in theory, but not so much in practice. 

If you average those latest polls you get Hassan +0.75. Does that really translate to 73-27 odds for Hassan?

I suggest not. But let’s dig further into that A- Nate Silver Rating for Emerson College

Emerson College 2020 Polls vs Results 

Polls vs results from 538 Nate Silver

I weeded out primaries and special elections taking the first 8 general election results for Emerson College posted by 538.

Emerson College Synopsis 

  • In 7 of 8 general election results, Emerson overestimated performance by Democrats.
  • The average overall estimate by Emerson, including ME-1 is 5.5 percentage points in favor of Democrats.
  • The average of the 7 Republican misses is 6.9 percentage points.

This translates into an A- rating for Emerson College.

On the “strength” of that “accuracy”, Nate Silver says the odds are 73-27 for Hassan.

When I brought up this on October 27, someone on Twitter told me the odds of Donald Bolduc winning was zero. Unfortunately, that Tweet is now missing in action.

I did find this one.

Libertarians & Free Staters will not be voting for Bolduc, no matter how full of crap Hassan is.

Really?!

The WSJ notes “Mr. Bolduc still doesn’t have any money. His campaign has raised a paltry $2.2 million and spent $1.9 million. Ms. Hassan’s campaign has raised $38.2 million and spent $36 million. Despite being outgunned financially, Mr. Bolduc has managed to tie the race going into the final weekend.”

I was discussing this possibility over a week ago.

I do not know what the odds are, but I do know they are not 73-27 against Bolduc given these trends. 

Nate Silver Admits He’s a Lagging Indicator, Declines a Bet on Senate Outcome

In case you missed it, please note Nate Silver Admits He’s a Lagging Indicator, Declines a Bet on Senate Outcome

This is not a question of “Really?!” anymore. Rather it’s clear BS by Nate Silver’s model.

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drjohnnyfever
drjohnnyfever
1 year ago
Bolduc faking an assault and filing charges against a Libertarian is probably not going to endear him to free-staters
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
i thankfully spent my teens and 20s at race tracks, learning how to be a loser, which served me well as a lifelong equity and FX trader. the odds are always just shots in the dark until the bettors change them. in political punting world, we won’t really know how the nags odds change until post time, election eve. and as they come around the far stretch into the last leg, when ballots are counted and some dirty play by the jockeys occur, we’ll find out who wins places or shows…….
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
My hope is that going into the far turn a horse at the front of a tight pack goes down and takes 6-8 horses with him.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
I meant political candidates not horses.
JRM
JRM
1 year ago
BBC has had on several analyst on the US election and they are banting about the word “SEA CHANGE”!!!
Tells my the establishment will give us peons in USA a win to try to lull the population back to sleep!!
But I believe their foot soldiers will not be so kind!!!
ajc1970
ajc1970
1 year ago
“I was mocked for suggesting Donald Bolduc could beat Democrat incumbent”

Don’t feel bad, I was mocked for suggesting that Murray’s 30-year reign as a Washington Senator was in jeopardy. Oh wait, you were the one mocking me.

link to projects.fivethirtyeight.com

But those blue numbers keep trending lower… only 4 days left. Maybe too late, but will be closer than everybody expected.
whirlaway
whirlaway
1 year ago
Reply to  ajc1970
Good point. RCP has now added Colorado to the Toss-up list for the US Senate. As things got worse for the DONORcrat Party, first NH, then WA and now CO moved into the toss-up list. I was thinking it would be 52R-48D in the Senate. Now, it might well be 53R-47D or even 54R-46D.
ajc1970
ajc1970
1 year ago
Reply to  whirlaway
I have a strong anti-Dem bias (note, not pro-GOP), but I just can’t buy Colorado going red this cycle..
Would be happy to be wrong
Mish
Mish
1 year ago
Reply to  ajc1970
Even Trafagar has Murray in the lead, but yes it’s possible and I hope to be wrong.
ajc1970
ajc1970
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish

It’s easier to imagine the NH Senate victory for the GOP because of Sununu’s margin. No parallel for that in Washington

And I’m human — hard to separate the hope from the analysis
Avery
Avery
1 year ago
They should visit downtown Chicago over the weekend for some rest and relaxation, especially enjoying the nightlife!
Pontius
Pontius
1 year ago
Interesting term bandied about when one digs into data, suburban moms are abandoning Democratic in large number – “revenge of the Covid moms.” They have not forgotten teachers union influence on Dems to close schools for up to 2 years. Disruption in their lives and. more important, permanently injured their children – two years of lost education not likely to ever recover.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  Pontius
That and $4 for a dozen eggs/$5 for a gallon of milk.
MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Food/farming labor cost averages 15-20% of total cost, for milk to double in price would mean labor has increased by 10 times.
Recent increases are due to oil price as well as food/grain shortages, and in small part increased labor cost…if you see $5 milk, find a new store.
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
1 year ago
Reply to  MarkraD
“Recent increases are due to oil price as well as food/grain shortages..”
And, like for everyone else attempting to do something productive in financialized full on dystopias: Due to ever increasing forced transfers to nonproductive, deadweight leeches: Rent, loan payments, “insurance” and the rest of the drivel that provide connected nothings with incomes way, way, way out of line with anything their useless selves could ever hope to earn from productive pursuits.
Pontius
Pontius
1 year ago
People’s Pundit (Baris) has been stating Nate Silver is a bag man for the DNC for years. Always overstates Democratic advantage until just before the election when he adjust polls to reality to claim accuracy after. Note, Silver – just today – adjusted for Republican senate control. Same mo.
paddy
paddy
1 year ago
the larger towns in nh are democrat run…..
if there is no decision one hour after the polls close the late returns from manchester, nashua, keene and portsmouth will be rigged!
2020 all of a sudden trump lost after late returns come in!!
JRM
JRM
1 year ago
Reply to  paddy
This time around the Court system won’t close their eyes and plug their ears!!!
Some of the same judges who refused to hear cases right after the 2020 elections have actually ruled there was violation of “STATE LAWS” in the 2020 election!!!
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  paddy
I if the dems lose , it’s fraud!!!1!!
bowwow
bowwow
1 year ago
I’m not a believer that many voters who actually cast a vote decide or change their candidate preference during the final weeks or days prior to election day. When a poll or combination of them shows there is a close race by the time October rolls around, then it’s a close race assuming that the same slate of candidates take it to the finish. So, a close race is what it is.
I digressed yesterday. In my state Biden and Harris are visiting to ‘help-out’ a few candidates in close races. I thought the democrats would be better-off trusting their gerrymandering, and be grateful their candidate is contending. The state’s gerrymandering has been updated. But, it’s a hard state to further manipulate.
Mish
Mish
1 year ago
Reply to  bowwow
There are still a lot of undecided votes. 6% in the case of Pennsylvania.
I will take a look at Pennsylvania next.
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
1 year ago
There has been a lot of momentum for the lagging Republicans. One thing at work may be increased participation of swing voters in polls.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
1 year ago
Due to the unprecedented incompetence of this administration, and that’s saying a lot as its taken us a while to get to this joke level, Trump might actually con his way back so he can do what he does best: bankrupt whatever he runs. At any rate, if you’re into politics, you’ll want to stock up on your popcorn. It’s going to get interesting to watch who is hated least at the ballot.
spa sidechats
spa sidechats
1 year ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
Trump received 13M more votes than Obama so hardly hated. The media however will tell you he’s Hitler. I personally do not care about either party but end of the day Trump is loved by more people than Obama. I don’t honestly understand why anyone cares anymore. We are going to support a land war with Russia, we are going to keep printing money and keep couping countries all over the globe. Nothing will change these things until the dollar is broken.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
1 year ago
Reply to  spa sidechats
I’m an anarchist, so that should tell you my feelings on anyone thinking they own me. However, a lot of things are in play that can stop these things, besides the dollar. Which has been dead for decades. All the FED has ever accomplished was to make it worthless. But we have covid backlash across many areas of that debacle. We have the very real prospect of food shortages, due in no small part to diesel supplies. This entire system could very easily implode due to corruption. When you have the level of discontent with a system as we have here now; the only thing you can count on is that we are in for some serious change. Don’t forget your popcorn.
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
1 year ago
Reply to  spa sidechats
Hitler wasn’t hated, neither. At least not by a majority of those with voting rights in Germany.
Anyone so singularly stupid that they believe a decaying shack can somehow create value as it sits there; will forever remain vastly too dumb to “hate” someone simply for ruining their country by being no more nor less stupid than they themselves are.
lil_neezy
lil_neezy
1 year ago
Reply to  spa sidechats
69.5 million for Obama in 2008. With a population of 304 million.
74 million for Trump in 2020. With population of 330 million.
Hard to say he’s more “loved”, yes? Because surely voting for someone means loved and surely Trump received so much more than Obama per Capita. Hell, I guess Biden is WAY more loved than George Washington!

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