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Sanction Debate – Are US Sanctions on Russia and China Working or Backfiring?

Foreign Policy asks Are U.S. Sanctions on Russia Working?

The debate is between Agathe Demarais, author of Backfire: How Sanctions Reshape the World Against U.S. Interests; and Nicholas Mulder, author of The Economic Weapon: The Rise of Sanctions as a Tool of Modern War

Foreign Policy: Nick, the IMF forecasts that Russia will grow by 0.3 percent this year. Sanctions were meant to have crippled the Russian economy. What happened?

Nicholas Mulder: There are a number of things that happened, but one place to start would be Russia’s policy response. Countries under sanctions are not passive. The West has learned to fight financial crises rather well, and other countries have taken on that toolbox and managed to avoid a big financial crisis. 

On top of that, in a year of general economic turmoil recovering from the pandemic, Russia’s position as a big commodity exporter gave it a certain amount of leverage over other countries. It’s been able to readjust. It’s had more trade than we expected, and it’s found backchannels for that trade. Those things together account for much of why the sanctions have worked less efficiently than expected.

FP: Agathe, in December 2022, you argued in FP that sanctions on Russia were indeed working. Do you still think that’s true?

Agathe Demarais: Absolutely. Sanctions on Russia are working, but there has been a lot of confusion about the effectiveness of sanctions against Russia because the West’s objectives haven’t been stated very clearly. 

The sanctions were never about Russia’s economic collapse. Russia is the ninth-largest economy in the world. I don’t think it was about regime change. We know from history that this never works. I also don’t think that Western countries thought that sanctions would be a magic tool that would change Putin’s thinking from one day to another. 

The point of sanctions was twofold. The first was to send a diplomatic message of solidarity and unity with Ukraine and also a message of trans-Atlantic collaboration to the Kremlin. And from that perspective, as I wrote in Foreign Policy, mission accomplished. The second objective, which I think will be a slow, gradual, cumulative objective, is about making it more difficult for Russia to wage war in Ukraine economically, financially, and technologically.

Mission Accomplished

We sent a message. That’s victory?

Many expected a collapse of Russia including its currency. Instead, the Ruble strengthened. 

And Russian oil is still flowing through a flotilla of sanction-avoiding ships. Yep, it’s at a cost to Russia, but also a cost to the West. 

Oil prices have collapsed, but that’s because the global economy is teetering. Prices are higher now than they would have been.

FP: Nick, sanctions aren’t stopping Putin from attacking Ukraine. Were they designed primarily for a longer-term impact?

NM: It’s clear that this is becoming a war of attrition, going into its second year, and the sanctions effort will be a long-term campaign of degradation. If the objective is to make things more difficult for Russia, then obviously the sanctions have worked. But I think it’s fair to ask a bit more of them. There were lots of claims made about how this would present insurmountable obstacles within a few months, and in that sense, now we’ve seen adaptation on both sides. That muddied the waters a little bit.

We can provide a more nuanced picture by asking not whether sanctions work or not but what are they doing and what are they not doing. Both Agathe and I agree they are degrading the Russian economy and they are forcing difficult adjustments for the Kremlin and also some adjustments for us, such as the G-7 price cap [on crude oil]. What are they not doing? Indeed, forcing Putin to break off the invasion or cause insurmountable problems that make him stop bombarding Ukrainian cities. I think that’s a better way of disentangling what is and isn’t working.

Spotlight China

FP: Let’s move to China. I want to focus on last year’s unprecedented sanctions, where Washington tried to restrict Beijing’s ability to access advanced semiconductors. Agathe, you’re the author of a book called Backfire, so I have to ask: Are these sanctions going to backfire?

AD: It’s too early to say. I don’t think that we know the answer, but I think it is worth asking what the consequences of a decoupling of the U.S. and Chinese economies will be. Will American companies and possibly European companies lose access to the Chinese market? This goes back to Nick’s point about the Russian economy. We shouldn’t expect China to sit idly by and say, “OK, you want to decouple or cut our access to semiconductors: No problem.” There will be policy responses. We do not know what they will be, but we can bet that Western companies could lose access to a Chinese market, which would entail a loss in revenue and possibly less expenses for research and development in the tech sector in Western countries. 

FP: Agathe, since Nick brought it up, will an overuse of sanctions lead to countries looking for alternatives to the dollar?

AD: There are three main ways for countries to shield themselves from sanctions, to vaccinate their economies. The first is de-dollarization. It’s a very clear trend. The U.S. dollar is still used for about 40 percent of global trade. The other side of the coin is that the majority of global trade is conducted not in U.S. dollars. Since 2020, Russia and China conduct most of their bilateral trade in Russian rubles and in Chinese renminbi. And that’s obviously not a random thing. It’s a clear strategy. There’s been a lot of discussion about the freeze of the foreign exchange reserves of Russia’s central bank, which had about the equivalent of $640 billion in reserves. But only half of this was frozen because the other half was denominated in foreign currencies or in gold.

The second tool for shielding their economies from sanctions is alternatives to SWIFT [the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunications]. SWIFT is the global rolodex of banks connecting all banks to each other, and China has an alternative called CIPS [Cross-Border Interbank Payment System]. If China were to be cut up from SWIFT from one day to another, it would have a plan B. There is also an offensive capability from the Chinese perspective because one day, likely by 2040, China will become the world’s largest economy, and it could say, “To do business with us, you need to use our financial system.” 

FP: Agathe, I’m curious about the role of the global south in this as the world becomes more multipolar. How does this change the way in which Washington thinks through sanctions?

AD: This is the big question. I think that there is a lot of resentment in the global south against former colonial powers, mainly European countries, such as France and the United Kingdom. This narrative against former colonial powers now has another element, and it is resentment against sanctions.

I would expect in the coming years and decades that the battle to win hearts and minds in a multipolar, fragmented world will be about winning these hearts and minds in the global south because we have two blocks already being formed. We have a Western block; that is very clear. We have another block including China and Russia and other so-called rogue countries. But where will the global south be? About two-thirds of the global population live in countries that are either neutral or Russia-leaning when it comes to Ukraine. There will be a lot of work for the United States and other Western countries to regain hearts and minds in the global south.

FP: Nick, if sanctions produce all these second-order problems, then what can a country or a consortium of countries do when another country flouts international law and goes rogue? In other words, is there anything else in the toolbox?

NM: I would say that there is a whole spectrum of means that a country like the United States can employ, but we have to take a step back and think about what the full range of tools in our toolbox actually is—all the way from diplomacy to threats of military action. Of course, if you can solve anything without military action, it’s always much better. But the ideal sanctions—and when they do really work—are sanctions that are powerful enough to not be merely symbolic but not so powerful as to needlessly antagonize and force a kind of fortress and entrenchment response in the targets. And that means that the sanctions must go hand in hand with some set of demands that could reasonably be acceded to. And that seems to me to be the best way of making sanctions work.

Will Biden’s Chip Sanctions Work on China?

Industry Week asks Will Biden’s Chip Sanctions Work on China?

I never expected U.S.-China relations could get any worse. Then, last month, the Biden administration pulled the pin on a grenade by announcing sweeping restrictions on the sale of advanced semiconductor technologies to China. The aim is to thwart China’s chip-making capabilities and advancements in space, military, and supercomputing.

The fallout from the sanctions will overwhelm any token goodwill coming out of Xi and Biden’s recent G20 meeting in Bali. The sanctions are even more severe than the ones Trump implemented during his tenure. They bar American citizens from working with Chinese semiconductor companies and, going further, forbid foreign companies that use imbedded American technologies from exporting cutting-edge semiconductors and equipment to China. 

The sanctions will certainly hit China in the short term. But do they pose a real threat to China’s long-term aspirations of reaching high-tech independence? Perhaps—although it is just as likely that they will backfire on the US.

A Next-to-Impossible Task?

If history offers any clues, then China faces a tough road ahead in achieving semiconductor prominence. 

Huawei, China’s flagship multinational organization, could not have become the largest telecommunications equipment manufacturer without initially partnering with Canada’s Nortel. Thanks to joint ventures with German, Japanese and American auto companies, China today boasts the world’s largest automotive market. 

And what happens when China tries to go it alone? It usually fails. Unable to find a joint-venture partner, the state-owned Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (COMAC) has spent the last 14 years unsuccessfully trying to build a Boeing 737-like commercial aircraft. 

Don’t Bet Against China

But let’s not totally count China out. Underestimating China and the will of its people has been a losing bet for the past 30 years. I give them more than a puncher’s chance to reach a level of respectability and competitiveness.

Sure, the sanctions will invariably delay China’s progress. Global market intelligence firm International Data Corporation estimates that while China is currently three to four generations behind leading-edge technologies, it could catch up in in as few as 10 years.

Investment capital certainly won’t hold China back. Beijing announced in 2020 that it would invest $1.4 trillion in high tech over the next five years, with much of it in the semiconductor space. This makes Biden’s CHIPS and Science Act, a $52.7 billion plan to revitalize semiconductor manufacturing, a drop in the bucket.

Before the sanctions, China was learning from the world’s best tech companies. China’s state media reported in 2021 that all the chips in their new space station, as well as in China’s Mars rover that landed on the red planet that year, were made in China.

China also has a geopolitical angle to play. China is betting on America’s weakened clout. And it may have a point. Just look at the U.S. sanctions imposed on Russia for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. India, Spain, Germany and Japan—democratic nations all—have actually increased Russian imports since the invasion began in February.

India has been particularly vexing to the U.S., as it maintains strong diplomatic ties with Russia, continues to purchase Russian munitions and crude oil and abstains from condemning Russia on human rights violations. 

Today, American and foreign companies alike are seriously vetting the de-Americanization option. Nikkei Asia recently reported that Japanese and Dutch semiconductor companies could produce equipment without the use of any U.S. technology.

Industry Week concludes with my position, emphasis mine.

The US and China are digging in for a long battle. Both countries over the next decade will claim small victories here and there, but ultimately, as most economists say about trade wars, there aren’t any winners; only losers.

Trade Wars are Neither Good Nor Easy to Win

President Trump stated “Trade wars are good and easy to win.”

He was wrong. 

https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1580439456599146497

Biden Escalates Trump’s Foolishness

Please note A New Green Deal Trade War Accelerates Between the US and EU

Biden is doing what Trump would have done if only Trump thought of it. 

Of course, Trump’s reasons for made in the US would have had nothing to do with green policies, just normal America First stuff. 

Also recall my December 19, 2022, post EU Imposes the World’s Largest Carbon Tax Scheme, Inflationary Madness Sets In

There’s economic stupidity across the board as noted in Al Gore and John Kerry Aim to Hijack the World Bank for Climate Agenda.

Subsidies, tariffs, sanctions, and trade wars all have a cost. The result will be more inflation, more nationalism, and higher costs for consumers.

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prumbly
prumbly
3 years ago
We float in a sea of propaganda.
“… what happens when China tries to go it alone? It usually fails. Unable
to find a joint-venture partner, the state-owned Commercial Aircraft
Corporation of China (COMAC) has spent the last 14 years unsuccessfully
trying to build a Boeing 737-like commercial aircraft”
Except that COMAC has over 600 orders for this plane (c919) and started delivering them last year…
mvlazysusan
mvlazysusan
3 years ago
If you look at all the “news” reports dated around March and spring of last year, every last one says we “West” are going to apply sanctions to Russia expressly to destroy the Russian economy.
Now this article says “The sanctions were never about Russia’s economy”
… sad
As I type most of the rest of the world are dumping the Dollars they hold and ending the practice of referencing the US Dollar in their trade.
All them US Dollars they no longer use are gonna come back to the USA and get spent on stuff Americans wanted to buy.
And then all he’ll is gonna break loose, not in Russia, not in Ukraine, but in America
GruesomeHarvest
GruesomeHarvest
3 years ago
Wars are stupid, trade wars are dumb, tariffs are great. The US used to fund the US government with tariffs. I think we should return to this policy.
alexwest
alexwest
3 years ago
=If China were to be cut up from SWIFT from one day to another, it would have a plan B.
—–
she is really crazy!!! China is source up to 1/3 of all revenues for most companies in eruope. esp luxury, cars, etc
USA will be instantly in depression.
you CAN’T just move production from country w/ population working less 500$ per month , to countries where ppl do not want to work for 15$ per hour!
and she calls her self an economist!
alexwest
alexwest
3 years ago
Both Agathe and I agree they are degrading the Russian economy and they
are forcing difficult adjustments for the Kremlin and also some
adjustments for us, such as the G-7 price cap [on crude oil]
———
IT IS COMMON knowledge anything is true if Agathe agrees w/ anybody!
it is read like some humor story from O’ Henry!
alexwest
alexwest
3 years ago
=Oil prices have collapsed,
sorry mish. it seems we see diff charts!
oil brent went down from initial spike in 2022. it has been trading $70*80 for whole year!
and taking into account eco events : labor, negative bond spreads , wars etc i would say oil prices are spiking!
IT IS obv. that oil prices (brent) will never ever again fall under 50$, opec+ will make this sure ( russia and middle east countries are on same page)!
alexwest
alexwest
3 years ago
truth is simple.
Russian reliance on oil/gas is overblown . it is same percentage wise as w/ Norway , or Australia
Russia has been RUNNING #3 BIGGEST trade positive balance for last 20 years . it was around 100*200 bln per year (after china and germany)
Russia had 3 oil shocks for last 15 years : 2008*2009, 2013*14 and recent 2020*21 covid related.
oil dropped under 50$. still nothing happened.
Russia has lowest gov debt/gdp ratio in G20, around %20!
Russian import/gdp ratio is lowest in G20.
EU/USA put outbound restrctions on capital flow from russia . this only makes Russia stronger. more $$$ stay inside country!
and CHERRY ON TOP. in 2022 Russia trade balance was again 250$ bln, not my words. recent Economist article.
alexwest
alexwest
3 years ago
#Agathe Demarais
it is on her own site! HER BIO
————
As the global forecasting director of the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU),
An economist by training, I am a *** thought leader *** on global affairs and the author of Backfire, a book on US sanctions.
Prior to joining the EIU, I worked as an economic advisor for the diplomatic corps of the French Treasury.
BNP Paribas Corporate and Investment Banking
Analyst (Russia and CIS) – 2009/11 (Moscow, Russia)
HSBC, Halbis Capital Management
Analyst (Debt capital markets, Emerging markets) – 2008/09 (New York City, US)
I have master’s degrees from Sciences Po Paris and Columbia University, where I studied as a Fulbright scholar
——
I read her bio!
so she is just middle of pack some kind of analysist, having just 3-4 years of working experience after university
and from 2011 up until now SHE IS ON GOV payroll (french)
alexwest
alexwest
3 years ago
=Russia is the ninth-largest economy in the world.
stop reading right here.
I guess author is still operates in terms or nominal prices so if fixing teeth in USA costs 2000$,
and same op in Russia costs 100$, thus USA economy 20 times bigger!
———
9th economy in world it is around canada-spain-italy.!
just recently I raed report Russia did 100 conseq space launches , first time such feat from USSR times !
do canada-spain-italy even have working space industry? I know the answer. NO.
Russia did more space lunches than whole EU. w/ supposedly 5 or 10x times bigger economy!
Sunriver
Sunriver
3 years ago
Sanctions on the US taxpayer in the form of government DEBT does and will always supercede any temporal sanctions on Russia and China.
We are are own worse enemy.
However, the private sector in this country, can make up any energy/chip deficiencies caused by tariffs. At a cost mind you.
I smell inflation. Lots of it.
8dots
8dots
3 years ago
Sanctions are inexpensive options. A full commitment to fight Putin is much more expensive and dangerous. It might lead to our destruction. We “SHOW” our support and commitment to Churchill #2 in every party, but Ukraine is getting smacked, not us…
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  8dots
The US will support Ukraine against Russia until the last able-bodied Ukrainian is dead.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
“Oil prices have collapsed, but that’s because the global economy is teetering. Prices are higher now than they would have been.”
An interesting statement.
Oil prices dropped from $105 in 2014 to $50 in 2015 to $30 in 2016.
Oil prices “collapsed” in 2020 from $60 to less than zero in 2020 (for a few days). Only to go back up to $60 by the end of the year.
Oil prices in 2022 started at $75, rose to a high of $120, and have dropped back to $80. I don’t see that as a collapse. The price today is still higher than the beginning of 2022. Particularly because most of the oil companies I own are making a crap load of profits at $80. Breakeven prices for these companies range from $28 to $50.
And I still expect oil to average between $90 and $105 this year, with an overall range of $70 to $120.
By the way, Tony Bennett predicts that oil will drop below $50 this year. Probably because he expects a severe global recession, like some others here.
Only time will tell.
But given a decade long reduction in capex spending by oil companies all over the world, I expect pricing pressure to be to the upside.
Portlander2
Portlander2
3 years ago
De-coupling with China will–if it’s not just political theatre–be a costly transition. These costs will be passed on to consumers in the form of higher prices. This will, all else equal, mean more inflation in the U.S., higher interest rates, and other consequences.
In the meantime, many other problems faced by this planet, from climate change to global poverty and resource shortages, will be harder to address if the biggest economies can’t get along. Can anyone explain why this country’s foreign policy priorities make any sense?
Our trade deficit with China is at an all-time high. Where’s the de-coupling? This suggests to me the whole “De-coupling” idea is just PR to give the American people the impression that our government is actually doing something meaningful about our trade imbalance. Meanwhile, the de-industrialization of America continues.
Portlander2
Portlander2
3 years ago
Reply to  Portlander2
Also, I think Agathe Demarais’s statement is pure BS:

Sanctions on Russia are working… The sanctions were never about Russia’s economic collapse.

The sanctions were billed as a way to weaken Russia economically to the point where it would be unable to sustain the war effort. But even on these very limited terms, the sanctions failed. We didn’t send Russia a message except a message of the West’s utter impotence. I don’t think the USA put the EU through an energy crisis just to “send a message” or “demonstrate solidarity.” As a tool of economic warfare, the sanctions failed miserably.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  Portlander2
The US definitely could not afford a economically strong Germany-Russia alliance, hence the outrageous terrorist atttack by the US on Nordstream ……and Sholz suffering the beaten wife syndrome, agreeing with everything his lord and abusing master says ……Fc kin unbelievable !!
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
3 years ago
Reply to  Portlander2
Give it twenty years and decoupling will happen. By then, average Americans won’t be able to afford Chinese imports.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
3 years ago
“And what happens when China tries to go it alone? It usually fails. Unable to find a joint-venture partner, the state-owned Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (COMAC) has spent the last 14 years unsuccessfully trying to build a Boeing 737-like commercial aircraft.”
A little googling will refute such statements. E.g. “How the Comac C919 similar from the A320 and B737 Max”.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Mish is giving the purely economic argument where the only thing that matters is the bottom line. There is an economic aspect that isn’t mentioned notably that Europe is the second richest area of the world and that keeping it rich is a good economic policy. Unfortunately Russia wants a good part of it and countries under Russian occupation or influence do not do well either in the past or now so from a pure economic point of view it is in everyone’s economic interest to keep it out of their hands and keep Europe prosperous because their prosperity enhances our prosperity. The modest sums we and Europe spend is a very good investment.
alexwest
alexwest
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
=t Europe is the second richest area of the world and that keeping it rich is a good economic policy
if you meant debt ,YES.
DEBT/GDP EU ratio is about 100% (Italy 150% )
greece is bankrupt, same as PIIGS!
some n europe contries have oveall debt/ gdp ratio 350%. most in world!
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  alexwest
Well Alex in the East. You seem to think that one-liners is an argument. They are not.
alexwest
alexwest
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
=Unfortunately Russia wants a good part of it and countries under Russian occupation it is only Russia bad.
i guess you never heard about British empire, or USA-Mexico war, Hitler, or napoleon, or just recent 20+ occupation of iraq/afganistan by nato/USA, ,100 yeas war in Europe, crusaders ?
what country are you from boy? have you ever opened hist book?
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  alexwest
These comments are all one-liners again.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
I like one liners.
They are clear, unambiguous, and easy to understand.
They make it easy to detect BS.
alexwest
alexwest
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
=at Europe is the second richest area of the world
have you ever tried open banking account in france, or spain.? what % would you get ? what do you think?
do you know at some point in recent history in switzerland there was negative % rate for alll banking accounts ?
meaning if you had 1000 franks in account, each year gov took 2-3 %?
do you think it is normal?
Dr Funkenstein
Dr Funkenstein
3 years ago
Any reason you give us a cartoon of Trump but not Biden? And quote a TDS neocon warmonger like David Frum?
Mish
Mish
3 years ago
Reply to  Dr Funkenstein
Trump started it
Biden made it worse
And the comic fits
as for who has TDS – try looking in the mirror
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Eighthman
Eighthman
3 years ago
What no one talks about: destroying the Dollar by trying to bully China. Every day some fool in Congress demands that China be restricted from buying land or businesses in the US. Do they expect China to accept IOU’s for hundreds of billions in goods forever? Or bonds that could be wiped out from a computer entry?
This all looks extremely shaky and artificial.
mrm
mrm
3 years ago
Sanctions *do* work but take longer than widely expected. They will hurt Russia more than China. If they did not work the USSR would still be alive. The cost of the sanctions (and the war) should be borne mostly by Europeans not the US. If Europe cannot or does not want to carry the burden it should just join the CIS and accept the rule of Putin’s mafia.
Webej
Webej
3 years ago
Reply to  mrm
Like Cuba, Iran, Venezuela?
The EU is more likely to get into a trade war with the US than to pick up more of the tab for what amounts to a US orchestrated intervention.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  Webej
Yes. They are economically speaking way behind and Russia after a time will join them.
Eighthman
Eighthman
3 years ago
Reply to  mrm
USSR didn’t collapse because of sanctions. And the EU should make peace with Russia and reject US dementia politics, for their own good. Sanctions are a sort of religious fanaticism – look at Cuba !
mrm
mrm
3 years ago
Reply to  Eighthman
Sanctions and star wars are responsible for a big part of USSR collapse (not all of it of course). Execution matters for both war and sanctions, Neither of them are 100% useless, you just have to do it right,
alexwest
alexwest
3 years ago
Reply to  mrm
=Sanctions and star wars are responsible for a big part of USSR collapse (
how do you that? cause it was said on cnn?
mrm
mrm
3 years ago
Reply to  alexwest
cause i was involved in it “back in USSR” some 30+years ago
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  Eighthman
Russia can have peace by leaving Ukraine. It’s that simple.
Eighthman
Eighthman
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Thank you for repeating the delusional meat grinder narrative, a dreamy glib remark that ignores the reality of international politics. Russia will achieve peace by killing or incapacitating an enormous number of Ukrainian males such that the nation never rises again. In the past month, a number of leaders have realized this is the end game: “to the last Ukrainian” and not as a joke.
alexwest
alexwest
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
=Russia can have peace by leaving Ukraine. It’s that simple.
not until Ukraine returns to natural borders!
Ukraine an is artificial country . never existed in current borders!
in 17 century Ukraine was just a small piece of land along dnipro river. and voluntary joined Russian empire!
read a hist book!
prumbly
prumbly
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Or Ukraine could have stopped shelling civilians in Donetsk City 8 years ago and honored the terms of the Minsk Agreements. But they didn’t, so here we are and Ukraine is losing its war.
Mish
Mish
3 years ago
Reply to  mrm
Like Cuba since 1960?
Like Venezuela?
Like what exactly?
alexwest
alexwest
3 years ago
Reply to  mrm
=f they did not work the USSR would still be alive
mo$ron.
eco. links USSR-western world never existed. it was 2 diff eco. planets!
problem w/ USSR was simple . lack of private property. /capital
how old are you? what is your level of education?
Webej
Webej
3 years ago
what can a country or a consortium of countries do when another country flouts international law and goes rogue?
This is the position of the USA, with all its interventions (>256 since 1991 according to the Congressional Records Office) in other countries and its continual arm-twisting of foe & friend alike. Consortia of countries or alliances or coalitions is a Western specialty, usually to hide that the US is 99% in charge, and are by their nature destabilizing attempts to increase unwarranted leverage.
The West is in decline and will find it very difficult to win any ‘hearts & minds’.
The notion that the sanctions were not meant to cripple Russia is pure copium … every one thought it would collapse and be humiliated.
People not compromised by the bought and paid for propaganda system all over the globe resent the US position as self-appointed policemen, they are sick and tired of the moral crusading/posturing that accompany Western investments and geopolitical actions, and they see the sanctions regimes and extra-territorial justice of the US as bullying autocratic attempts to subvert sovereignty and suborn equitable international arrangements. Above all, they are acutely attuned to the hypocrisy in all of it, epiphenomena to outright self aggrandizement at the cost of others.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  Webej
Meanwhile, the US cannot balance its books and Fed debt heads to $32 Trillion
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Didn’t Biden say the sanctions would cripple the Russian economy?
What the sanctions showed is Europe is lot better off being an ally with Russia than being an ally with the US.
Mish
Mish
3 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Yes he did.
One week later the Ruble soared
Jack
Jack
3 years ago
“Oil prices have collapsed, but that’s because the global economy is teetering.“
Seems oil production continues to increase at healthy pace – looks like will reach pre-COVID rates sometime this year.
Production was fairly flat prior to COVID.
All what is produced is consumed, although some is stored, non is wasted.

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