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Second-Quarter 2025 Preliminary GDP Revised Up to 3.3 Percent

The BEA revised GDP from 3.1% to 3.3% with spending from 1.4% to 1.6%.

Second-Quarter 2025 GDP, Highlights Show Advance Estimates

The BEA’s Second Estimate of Gross Domestic Product for the 2nd Quarter 2025 was 3.3 percent up from 3.0 percent in the advance estimate.

  • Real gross domestic product (GDP) increased at an annual rate of 3.3 percent in the second quarter of 2025 (April, May, and June).
  • In the first quarter, real GDP decreased 0.5 percent.
  • Real GDP was revised up 0.3 percentage point from the advance estimate, primarily reflecting upward revisions to investment and consumer spending that were partly offset by a downward revision to government spending and an upward revision to imports.
  • Compared to the first quarter, the upturn in real GDP in the second quarter primarily reflected a downturn in imports and an acceleration in consumer spending that were partly offset by a downturn in investment.

Percentage Point Contributions to GDP 2025 Q2

Wild swings in imports are tariff related.

Source of Revisions

  • Within investment, upward revisions to intellectual property products, equipment, and structures were partly offset by a downward revision to private inventory investment.
  • The upward revision to consumer spending reflected upward revisions to both goods (notably, pharmaceutical products) and services (notably, health care as well as food services and accommodations).
  • Within government, compensation was revised down, primarily reflecting revised BLS Current Employment Statistics data for state and local government.

AI was a primary influence on the upward revision.

The BEA provided this technical note: “The revision to intellectual property products reflected upward revisions to software, based on new Census Bureau Quarterly Services Survey data, and to research and development, based on newly available R&D expenses reported by publicly traded companies.”

For two quarters, nonresidential investment has been hot. That’s a reflection of AI-related investment.

I am working on some charts to show how AI impacted GDP and what to expect for the third quarter.

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RonJ
RonJ
10 months ago

“The Fed just announced a new monetary framework. Is it any better?”

Has there ever been a framework which worked? Everything moves in cycles. Any framework will appear to work, until the down phase of a major cycle. Then the framework gets overwhelmed.

spencer
spencer
10 months ago
Reply to  RonJ

The FED’s framework hasn’t changed. It still uses interest rate manipulation. The only tool, credit control device, at the disposal of the monetary authority in a free capitalistic system through which the volume of money can be properly controlled is legal reserves. Powell eliminated legal reserves in March 2020.

spencer
spencer
10 months ago
Reply to  RonJ

re: “Has there ever been a framework which worked?”

In “The General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money”, pg. 81 (New York: Harcourt, Brace and Co.): John Maynard Keynes gives the impression that a commercial bank is an intermediary type of financial institution (non-bank), serving to join the saver with the borrower when he states that it is an: “optical illusion” to assume that “a depositor and his bank can somehow contrive between them to perform an operation by which savings can disappear into the banking system so that they are lost to investment, or, contrariwise, that the banking system can make it possible for investment to occur, to which no savings corresponds.”

In almost every instance in which Keynes wrote the term “bank” in his General Theory, it is necessary to substitute the term non-bank in order to make Keynes’ statement correct.

spencer
spencer
10 months ago
Reply to  RonJ

Long-term monetary flows, the proxy for inflation. With the de minimis exemption ending, the peak looks assured
01/1/2025 ,,,,, 0.087
02/1/2025 ,,,,, 0.080
03/1/2025 ,,,,, 0.094
04/1/2025 ,,,,, 0.120
05/1/2025 ,,,,, 0.121
06/1/2025 ,,,,, 0.143
07/1/2025 ,,,,, 0.137
08/1/2025 ,,,,, 0.147
09/1/2025 ,,,,, 0.150 peak
10/1/2025 ,,,,, 0.144
11/1/2025 ,,,,, 0.145
12/1/2025 ,,,,, 0.121
01/1/2026 ,,,,, 0.133
02/1/2026 ,,,,, 0.141
03/1/2026 ,,,,, 0.113
04/1/2026 ,,,,, 0.084
05/1/2026 ,,,,, 0.092
06/1/2026 ,,,,, 0.086
07/1/2026 ,,,,, 0.079

spencer
spencer
10 months ago
Reply to  RonJ

re: “until the down phase of a major cycle”

That’s what Dr. Philip George’s The Riddle of Money Finally Solved is all about.

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
10 months ago

Bwahahahahah…..I warned you boomers – Medicare cuts are here! How will this change GDP?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/28/health/medicare-prior-approval-health-care.html?unlocked_article_code=1.hk8.L_ZA.095JZYck6sPh

The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services plans to begin a pilot program that would involve a similar review process for traditional Medicare, the federal insurance program for people 65 and older as well as for many younger people with disabilities. The pilot would start in six states next year, including Oklahoma, where Ms. Ayres lives.

Next up Social Security.

RonJ
RonJ
10 months ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

Think an exit strategy will protect you? Global debt is off the charts.

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
10 months ago
Reply to  RonJ

If you don’t understand how an exit strategy will help you are beyond help. Enjoy Donald Trump’s death panels!

FDR
FDR
10 months ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

Have you witnessed the GOP town halls in red districts?

Iowa’s 1st state senate race that went to Trump in ‘24 by eleven points just lost in a special election to a Democrat by ten points or a swing of twenty-one points in only ten months.

BenW
BenW
10 months ago

Q3 will, I suspect, get us about 85% past trade distortions in so far as front running tariffs and probably about 50% in terms of their total effect on CPI.

We get the August jobs numbers on 9/6, and the next two months should give us a solid indication if we’re moving meaningfully towards a recession or not.

I’m back robbyrob
I’m back robbyrob
10 months ago

 Woodcoin: an attempt at a physical cryptocurrency?

https://woodcoincrypto.com/

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
10 months ago

Wooden nickels making a comeback.

Counter
Counter
10 months ago

Didn’t seem to help the Buffett indicator much

JCH1952
JCH1952
10 months ago

Let’s see, Q1 + Q2 + AtlFed’s 2.2 for Q3 =s 1.67% GDP growth through 3/4s of 2025. Spectacular!

HubrisEveryWhereOnline
HubrisEveryWhereOnline
10 months ago
Reply to  JCH1952

I don’t know what number you’re hoping for, but an average 1.67% real GDP growth is not that bad. Worse than Biden’s, but oh well.

The issue is where it goes from here.

Creamer
Creamer
10 months ago

“Within investment, upward revisions to intellectual property products, equipment, and structures were partly offset by a downward revision to private inventory investment”

Read: You are looking at the AI bubble while watching actual inventory disappear from shelves. The entire economy is being driven by vaporware, and clueless investors couldn’t be happier.

Michael Engel
Michael Engel
10 months ago

Polyps spread on Trump’s nose and forehead. Blood stain on his right hand.

Last edited 10 months ago by Michael Engel
peelo
peelo
10 months ago
Reply to  Michael Engel

In marches Thiel’s (some poor misguided fools allege, but of course I don’t believe it) implant/puppet, Vance? Kicking myself for selling off Palantir a long while ago.

Last edited 10 months ago by peelo
MPO45v2
MPO45v2
10 months ago

Well if we’re in the 3.3% GDP golden age why are so many people complaining, even MAGA?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbxnX35sDDI

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
10 months ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

That’s what all the troop deployments are about. Complain too loudly and it’s off to a concentration camp near you.

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
10 months ago
Reply to  El Trumpedo

And like I said, this isn’t North Korea or nazi Germany with a docile and unarmed population. There was a mass shooting this week and as usual police was useless. Everyone has guns, heck I have two assault rifles, shotguns, pistols and thousands of rounds of ammo. Won’t get to use them because I’ll be outta here enjoying the beach and ocean.

Cuts to SNAP, medicaid, medicare, nationalizing firms, tariffs, etc are all signs of a slow moving collapse. At some point, the clueless will clue in but it will be too late by then cuz only the sheep will be left behind.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
10 months ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

They don’t give a rat’s ass about children, however, they’re just waiting for someone to pop the head of a masked ICE goon to really put the boot down. They will ramp up the provocation until they get it.

Then the gun control talk will start among the simps… and they’ll start handing them in.

Unfortunately, I won’t be able to participate, as all my guns were lost in a tragic boating accident.

Last edited 10 months ago by El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
10 months ago
Reply to  El Trumpedo
RonJ
RonJ
10 months ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

There isn’t really a beach somewhere to run and hide. The Klaus Schwab WEF globalists talk of a Great Reset. The most clueless may be those who think they are clued in.

RonJ
RonJ
10 months ago
Reply to  El Trumpedo

Governor Newsom just announced a new program in Southern California, utilizing special California Highway Patrol units to fight crime. Saturday night in Beverly Hills, a burglar tried to break into singer Lionel Richie’s home while he was there. Upscale residents of Encino have been complaining about numerous home break ins, as well. Encino is where the burglary and murder of an American Idol producer and her husband occurred.

Jojo
Jojo
10 months ago

Definitely need an interest rate cut now!

How will Powell justify the next cut now as he capitulates to what Trump wants and demands?

Tony Frank
Tony Frank
10 months ago
Reply to  Jojo

Apparently, the market believes a September cut is in the bag, regardless of other economic numbers. Perhaps, Powell has taken all of the heat he can stand as there are probably things going on that have not been mentioned.

I still believe the 10-year UST bond is key.

Six000MileYear
Six000MileYear
10 months ago
Reply to  Jojo

He won’t. This report gives Powell all the political cover he needs to keep rates at present levels.

Michael Engel
Michael Engel
10 months ago

SPX bs. Tomorrow 1W ES might drop < Aug 11 hi. 1M NQ < July high. Rate cuts bs Deepseek competes with ChatGPT, not with NVDA. 1D QQQ: H&S ???

Last edited 10 months ago by Michael Engel
Michael Engel
Michael Engel
10 months ago

Q1 2025 fake negative. Q2 fake positive.

Michael Engel
Michael Engel
10 months ago

The econ is ok. Stanford digital “researchers”: The canaries in the coal mine: 2/ 3 years ago co adopted AI. Lately college grad can’t get a job. Newly hired workers 22 to 25: programmers, bookkeepers and accountants, those who serve customers… are sacked, along with boomers. HR cutting overhead have to do it legally. Same old story, blaming AI. Canaries bs.

Last edited 10 months ago by Michael Engel
Jack
Jack
10 months ago

Of course it’s 3.3%, if it isn’t they’ll get sacked by The Grifter in Chief.

Last edited 10 months ago by Jack
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
10 months ago
Reply to  Jack

Nobody downvoting knows Trump hasn’t set up this arrangement. What we DO know is that he sacked people for reporting actual numbers. The idea that 40 people from both sides of the aisle would cheat Trump’s numbers is reserved for the biggest conspiracy wackos on the planet.

spencer
spencer
10 months ago

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Upswing supported by the FED

Bam_Man
Bam_Man
10 months ago

And we need rate cuts – why? (Other than to finance ridiculous federal deficits)

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
10 months ago
Reply to  Bam_Man

Trump needs to be able to afford his RE debts, that’s been his motivation for crashing rates, with no regard for the effects on the economy or regular Americans including all of his voters.

peelo
peelo
10 months ago

Plus free money means soaring risk markets, fads, a thousand crypto/NFT flowers bloom, Trump sons’ affiliated entities go up. “Event contracts” (gambling, bucket shop deals) on young men’s phone apps scoop up all spare change in a moment of optimism. Then rug pull, lots of new street people, but who cares about their suckers?

David Heartland
David Heartland
10 months ago
Reply to  Bam_Man

You hit it!

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
10 months ago

Are these real numbers, or are the toadies of the Cheeto Pedo in charge of them?

Jack
Jack
10 months ago
Reply to  El Trumpedo

Nothing that comes out of Gov is real….

Patrick
Patrick
10 months ago

Data centers expand, as NVDA’s data center biz slackens. Time lag.

peelo
peelo
10 months ago
Reply to  Patrick

Maybe like the pyramids some day, in the endless deserts, to be marveled over by whoever or whatever survives.

Gary Laakso
Gary Laakso
10 months ago

When does the data measure the imports in a bonded warehouse that have yet to be paid for by a customer?

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