Now, let’s talk about the IRS. Rumor has it that the IRS is about to DOUBLE in size. Let’s NOT think about what means…however, if I was running a small business, I’d be glad I didn’t cheat on my prior returns…
Let’s hope diminishing returns sets it, not economies of scale.
Even when they double in size, I doubt they go back and look at prior returns. The goal will be to look forward to capture current and future revenue. My guess is the only way they back audit is if your current tax is found to be suspicious so as long as your good going forward any past indiscretions will be water under the bridge.
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
An important question is being overlooked here. How/why are companies in the position of paying minimal/if any tax with incomes over $1 billion?
Pick one of the following most likely to meet the 15% rule.
1: A company practicing fraudulent accounting practices, eg. hiding overseas income.
2: A mature, dividend-paying company with aging infrastructure and steady income (with (global) competition).
3: A company with high ongoing and sunk infrastructure costs, and variable income.
4: An innovative, high-growth company building a massive global infrastructure, and not paying dividends.
You picked four, right?
These are the same companies that are responsible for most of today’s growth, and future GNP. They are usually global. They invest heavily in themselves–in innovation and growth. Their cap-x generates vast depreciation deductions/depletion allowances (in accordance with the law). They seldom pay dividends. They borrow extensively to fund their growth… SO LET’S TAX THEM!
Today’s mature, dividend-paying companies were once growth companies too. They were (and are) global and they invested too. They also paid a higher tax rate. If today’s so-called innovative and growth companies can’t deal with the same situation, it is their problem.
You miss the point. FIX the tax code–for every company. Don’t punish a few because they are successful. Get rid of depreciation/depletion allowances for all, put limits on it, etc. BUT DO IT FOR ALL. Politicians would not be picking winners and losers.
At the time those mature companies were fast-growing they paid tax at the then-current rate, with legal deductions for depreciation and asset depletion. Eventually, those companies get fat and lazy. They will go the way of Sears, too dumb to respond to market changes, far too dumb to innovate.
whirlaway
1 year ago
“The bill will implement a 15% corporate minimum tax. This targets large corporations that report big profits but pay little or nothing in income taxes. Amazon is an example.”
The only problem is, even with something that sounds as simple as that, the DONORcrat politicians are sure to have put in loopholes for the large corporations to drive through.
Corporations used to pay $1 out of every $3 tax revenue, some 50+ years ago. Now, they pay $1 out of every $8 or $9 of tax revenue.
KidHorn
1 year ago
“PWBM estimates that the Inflation Reduction Act would reduce non-interest cumulative deficits by $248 billion over the budget window”
Is there a place where one can bet if a piece of legislation delivers on what’s proposed? Because there’s no way this will come true.
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
Also if this allows the Fed to keep hiking rates, it is a good thing. Higher rates are better for savers and reduce overall portfolio risk.
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
Don’t agree regarding corporations passing on expenses to consumers. At some point they are forced to pay out of profits. Logically it never made sense for a company like WalMart to have their employees on public assistance and pay no federal corporate taxes. Now those companies who avoid taxes will have to pay a minimum and it will be mainly out of profits.
Walmart paid $4.76bn last year in income taxes. That’s a 25% rate. That figure ignores sales, payroll and real estate taxes. Our politicians can’t be counted on to make do with the $4+ trillion we send them annually already. So, sure, let’s send them more because the Fed gov’t is so constrained and spends what we give them so carefully and responsibly.
To the extent they can pass the taxes to the customers, the reason for that is the markets are concentrated. The mega corporations should be broken up so that no single corporation has more than 10 percent of the market – the number that antitrust regulators used to stick to, before the entire government was purchased by the corporate sector.
Whatever a corporation does to pay taxes it must first take the money from it’s customers.
Corporations cannot print money, nowadays only Governments do that.
Felix_Mish
1 year ago
“Since most corporations don’t really pay taxes“
This might be said of any taxpayer. Taxpayers will pass the expense along as best they can, and, in the end, probably proportional to how they pass along any money they have coming in.
MPO45
1 year ago
So what does this mean for investment portfolios?
1. Dividends may get cut but only for large corporations, need to look at my portfolio and find out where there may be damage.
2. Need to see which Pharmaceutical stocks will be impacted by this however…
3. Out-of-pocket caps of $2000? Wait Medicare will negotiate lower prices but senior caps at $2k? This will just open the flood gates for more meds from big pharma. Neutral for my pharma stocks.
4. Free vaccines – good for my pharma stocks.
5. More spending – good for stocks. bad for inflation
6. Tax credits – good for stocks. bad for inflation
7. financing for energy – good for stocks. bad for inflation
Thank you. I’m not sure I could keep reading the comment section if it wasn’t for level headed commenters such as you.
Too many closed minded, political cultists and not enough practical investment advice.
One of the reasons I sold most of my US oil stocks and loaded up on Canadian oil stocks was due to the possibility of increased taxes on US oils. The second reason was better valuations.
I am not expecting Canada to enact extra taxes on oil companies, though they might surprise me.
During the Clinton era, flu vaccine prices were ‘fixed’ in a similar fashion ( a side ‘benefit’ of the The Clinton health care plan in1993). The plan failed; however, the Democrats passed a “law that attempted to reduce the cost of vaccinations so that all
children can be vaccinated. The federal government now limits the amount
of profit afforded to the vaccine companies to ensure low prices.”
By 2004, all but three manufacturers had exited the flu vaccine market, leading to a shortage….
Gosh! Now who would have thought that price controls would affect supply.
Siliconguy
1 year ago
Did they extend the end of the ACA cliff? That unpleasant income when you just barely overshoot the four times poverty and lose the entire subsidy?
Just setting the subsidy cap at 8.5% of income ( or 9.5% for that matter) is a much more reasonable way doing it. Finding out you made 401% of poverty on Jan 3 and now have to repay the entire $900/month for the previous year is really a pain. I dodged the bullet last year thanks to the Covid law, if I can dodge it for this year and 2023 then I’m “safely” on Medicare.
Irondoor
1 year ago
Thank goodness I finished lunch before taking a minute to contemplate the sheer stupidity and gross incompetence of the idiots making laws in this once-great country. I hate being sickened while eating.
To add continuing insult to injury, every day the news shows massive numbers of unaccompanied males nonchalantly crossing our southern border. They are from virtually every country in the world. Do they have job prospects? Do they have education, skills, capital to invest? Of course not, so I hope the Governor of Texas sends thousands of them to NY, DC and Chicago. Those are so-called “sanctuary cities”. The Libs wanted them, so here they are.
NY, DC and Chicago has huge labor shortages and that cheap labor will do nicely. I walked past half a dozen shops and restaurant shops with help wanted signs. Abbot thinks he is teaching these cities a lesson and he is which is “Texas will send free cheap labor at Texan taxpayer expense to blue states and cities.”
Suggest you read the CBO report that just came out about immigrants. That’s where 75% of the population growth will come by in 2040.
Do they have monkeypox, etc? Kansas City is starting to look like the Congo.
shamrock
1 year ago
“Since most corporations don’t really pay taxes, any taxes on
corporations will turn into taxes on consumers, lower dividends, or
lower shareholder appreciation, mostly consumer tax hikes”
I don’t remember corporations lowering prices for consumers after Paul Ryan’s corporate tax cuts, corporations charge as much as the market will bear regardless of tax burdens. So I’m guessing if they have to pay more in taxes it will come out of shareholder value, hard to feel bad for Bezos and so on.
Corporate taxes are just a way to make personal taxe seem a bit lower. If we didn’t have corporate taxes, then personal taxes would have to be increased. Same with state lotteries. If we didn’t have lotteries, then whatever revenues they bring in would have to come from higher personal taxes. Everything is a scam.
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
With regard to the EITC…. The IRS offers this classic statement of gross incompetence:
‘Some of the errors are unintentional caused by the complexity of the
law, but some of the claims are intentional disregard of the law.”
The only problem is, even with something that sounds as simple as that, the DONORcrat politicians are sure to have put in loopholes for the large corporations to drive through.
Corporations used to pay $1 out of every $3 tax revenue, some 50+ years ago. Now, they pay $1 out of every $8 or $9 of tax revenue.
children can be vaccinated. The federal government now limits the amount
of profit afforded to the vaccine companies to ensure low prices.”
corporations will turn into taxes on consumers, lower dividends, or
lower shareholder appreciation, mostly consumer tax hikes”
law, but some of the claims are intentional disregard of the law.”