Someone Will Be Hugely Wrong on Tomorrow’s GDP Number

Following a string of bad economic numbers, the final GDPNow Forecast for third-quarter GDP is 0.2%. 

However a full two percentage points of that number is an inventory build. Since inventories net to zero over time, GDPNow’s true bottom line estimate is -1.8%.

In contrast, the Bloomberg Econoday consensus is a much higher 2.7% in a range of 1.6% to 4.8%. Econoday does not net out real final sales.

Someone is going to be hugely wrong, and possibly everyone if we see a number like 1.4%.

Goods Trade Deficit Expands a Shocking 9.2% as Exports Plunge

Earlier today I noted Goods Trade Deficit Expands a Shocking 9.2% as Exports Plunge

The GDPNow estimate makes more sense to me, and seemingly to the bond market as well as yields plunged across the board but especially on the long end. 

I will cover bonds in a separate post, but the bond market reaction is as if the GDPNow estimate is correct. This is due to the fact that exports add to GDP while imports subtract. 

Inflation also subtracts from real GDP and inflation has been running hot. 

Possible Errors

It’s possible the GDPNow model overstated the trade balance impact. A previous plunge in the model was also trade related. 

If the GDPNow model has the trade impact correct, and I believe it does, then look for GDPNow to be much closer than the Econoday consensus.

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StukiMoi
StukiMoi
2 years ago
Kind of like saying someone will be wrong about what senile Uncle Elmer will arbitrarily blurt out on Christmas Eve….
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
Reply to  StukiMoi
That’s easy. F J B.
It is hard to believe Bidum is still in charge.  So much for a recovery.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
On  a positive note, illegal immigration is up 250 percent.
GaryL
GaryL
2 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Below expectations.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
Back in August a slew of “experts”:
“according to 36 forecasters surveyed by the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia. The panel predicts real GDP will grow at an annual rate of 6.8 percent this quarter”
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
“The GDPNow estimate makes more sense to me, and seemingly to the bond market as well as yields plunged across the board but especially on the long end.”
Twofer.
Economic reality in US emerging, but what is occurring in China, even more so.  Their whole house of cards (pun intended) real estate market beginning to collapse.  Now, everyone just assumed Government would step in and bail out everyone so party can continue.  Instead, Xi has “asked” Evergrande founder Hui to step in with HIS $billions to shore up things (at least take first loss position).  How does this not put a serious chill on property market as every other rich developer has “uh oh” moment.
Rbm
Rbm
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett

Well my thoughts are he would rather take the lumps now and reset than end up in similar situation the us is in.  

tbergerson
tbergerson
2 years ago
That will add another arrow to the quiver of the Biden haters.  Good.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
“Someone is going to be hugely wrong,”
I always enjoy the egg on the face of “experts” when they miss (on the high side) … and in hindsight blame it on snowstorm (or whatever) … uh, weren’t you aware of storm (or whatever) when you made your forecast???
dbannist
dbannist
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett

The snow storm or hurricane wouldn’t get the blame of course if they were proven right.There are always weather anomalies, every month, so always something or someone to blame.No one is ever wrong.  The rare analyst that actually takes responsibility for a mistake does not get the clicks.

dbannist
dbannist
2 years ago
Any recommendations on how to profit on a day trade?That’s the only thing I care about, is how to profit off the information I read here.  Levered bond ETF’s are sure interesting to play with just before GDP reports are released.  Also a very good way to lose a ton of money quickly if you happen to guess wrong.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  dbannist
The train already left the station.

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