A Hopium Stock Market Rally on Jerome Powell’s Inflation Progress Report

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The Federal Reserve posts a Transcript of Powell’s Speech on Inflation and the Labor Market.

Powell put a spotlight on core Personal Consumption Expenditures (PCE) inflation, noting that it is stubbornly high despite the Fed’s rate hikes. 

Key Powell Comments (Emphasis Mine)

Twelve-month core PCE inflation stands at 5.0 percent in our October estimate, approximately where it stood last December when policy tightening was in its early stages. Over 2022, core inflation rose a few tenths above 5 percent and fell a few tenths below, but it mainly moved sideways. So when will inflation come down?

I could answer this question by pointing to the inflation forecasts of private-sector forecasters or of FOMC participants, which broadly show a significant decline over the next year. But forecasts have been predicting just such a decline for more than a year, while inflation has moved stubbornly sideways. The truth is that the path ahead for inflation remains highly uncertain.

For starters, we need to raise interest rates to a level that is sufficiently restrictive to return inflation to 2 percent. There is considerable uncertainty about what rate will be sufficient, although there is no doubt that we have made substantial progress, raising our target range for the federal funds rate by 3.75 percentage points since March. 

Despite the tighter policy and slower growth over the past year, we have not seen clear progress on slowing inflation. 

In the labor market, demand for workers far exceeds the supply of available workers, and nominal wages have been growing at a pace well above what would be consistent with 2 percent inflation over time. Thus, another condition we are looking for is the restoration of balance between supply and demand in the labor market.

Looking back, we can see that a significant and persistent labor supply shortfall opened up during the pandemic—a shortfall that appears unlikely to fully close anytime soon.

Many forecasters expected that participation would move back up fairly quickly as the pandemic faded. And for workers in their prime working years, it mostly has. Overall participation, however, remains well below pre-pandemic trends.

Recent research by Fed economists finds that the participation gap is now mostly due to excess retirements—that is, retirements in excess of what would have been expected from population aging alone. These excess retirements might now account for more than 2 million of the 3‑1/2 million shortfall in the labor force.

The data so far do not suggest that excess retirements are likely to unwind because of retirees returning to the labor force.

It is likely that restoring price stability will require holding policy at a restrictive level for some time. History cautions strongly against prematurely loosening policy. We will stay the course until the job is done.

Interview with David Wessel, Hutchins Center Director

An interview with Wessel following Powell’s speech was a discussion of job openings, supply constraints, wage inflation, and whether or not de-globalization and decarbonization will add to inflation.

In response to a question about de-globalization and decarbonization, Powell said he “didn’t know”. 

Although no one ever really knows such things with 100 percent certainty, it’s hard to conclude anything other than de-globalization and decarbonization will add to inflation.

Powell then said “Assume it’s true. We still have our 2 percent inflation targets. We tend to assume things will go back to the way they were but that does not seem to be happing so far.”

In response to Wessel’s question regarding a soft landing, Powell refused to handicap the odds, only stating that it was plausible. “It’s still achievable,” said Powell, adding that “If you look at history it’s not a likely outcome.”

So far this is still market bearish. 

There is little if anything at all in Powell’s speech and the following interview that represents a pivot or even an end to rate hikes.

The audience Q&A then started at the 43:51 mark in the video above.

Market Hopium

It was the Q&A, not Powell’s prepared speech or the interview that ignited the markets.

In response to a question on risk management Powell said “One risk management technique is to go slower and feel your way a little bit to what we think is the right level. Another is to hold on longer at a high level and not loosen policy too early.” 

My colleagues and I do not want to overtighten because cutting rates is not something we want to do soon. That’s why we’re slowing down, and I’m going to try to find our way to what that right level is.”

In response to a question on a shock and awe approach vs going slower, Powell said “We would not raise rates and try to crash the economy and clean up afterwards. The right thing to do is to move rally quickly as we have, and now slow down and get to that place we need to be.”

Powell does “not want to get rid of inflation at a high human cost.”

Market Took Off

Powell was not particularly dovish and the rate hike odds have already collapsed. 

Yet, the market was looking for hopium and found it in the Q&A. The lead chart shows the picture. 

Housing Bubble Admission

The Q&A then ended on an interesting housing question and Powell’s answer. 

“Coming out of the pandemic, rates were very low, people wanted to buy houses, they wanted to get out of the cities and buy houses in the suburbs because of Covid. And so you really had a housing bubble, … very unsustainable levels and overheating. Now the housing market is going through the other side of that,” said Powell.

Yes, there was and still is a housing bubble. The Fed caused it and an asset bubble in general as well, but Powell tried to lay the blame on regulation. “It’s hard to get zoning, hard to get housing built in sufficient quantity to meet the public’s demand.”

Yeah right, that’s what happens when you blow bubbles, Chairman Powell.

That the market would rally so much on so little suggests Powell has much more work to do to end the speculative behaviors that the Fed ignited. 

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FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
LIES , ALL LIES ! In Belgium, the official inflation number is said to be 10 % ….a very trustworthy consumer association (Test Aankoop) however states that inflation in general stands at a staggering 30%…..The bond and stock markets are buoyed today, assuming that CB’s are going to stop hiking , even decreasing interest rates once again …NOT in your fn lifetime idiots !….We are going Zimbabwe ! ….Fiat money being created like crazy remains merely fiat money …..Got gold ?
Webej
Webej
3 years ago
One risk management technique is to go slower and feel your way a little bit
I do this all the time, in the middle of the night, or in the basement when the lights are out.
Strange but true: The market never reacts.
Don’t ask me why. I just don’t know.
8dots
8dots
3 years ago
AAPL Anti BB : May 12/17. AAPL closed below May 17 high. // SPX channel : Oct 5 high to yesterday close. Parallel : Oct 13 low. SPX got support from ma200. Under the Anti May 17 high. A trigger. // DG Dollar General have a bad day. Under ma200.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Hopium market rally?
Okay. I will trade it. Like I trade every other market move.
Meanwhile, it seems most here are not interested in trading or investing. All they want to do is complain about the Fed and either political party. I suspect that they will do this their entire lifetime, while missing out on the opportunity for profits.
Complaining will change nothing. Your actions will.
I choose to profit.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Is this the top? Maybe. The latest gDp now forecast is still @ 4.3%. Cleveland just raised their inflation forecast.

M2 hasn’t changed for c. 1 year. But DDs
have risen. I.e., the composition of M2 has changed. So, the “demand for
money” has fallen, and thus velocity has risen (dis-savings). So, short-term money flows
are rising at the same time long-term money flows are falling. Until short-term
money flows reverse, a recession will not happen. But it’s harder to predict now that Powell has delayed the reporting of the money stock by a month.

On the day the
market bottomed, I repeated myself 3 times:
That’s B.S.
Bottom’s in.
Mar 23, 2020. 10:34 AM
Link
Margin Call: The Story Of A Historic Week – The Heisenberg
Bottom for stocks, not the economy. It will decouple.
Mar 23, 2020. 10:33 AM
Link
We Likely Saw The Bottom – Michael A. Gayed, CFA
The bottom’s in.
Mar 23, 2020. 10:28 AM
My guess is that the markets will turn down with the seasonal inflection point. So, I’m holding pat. I’m more concerned with the FED’s CBDC impact. One CBDC for 100 dollars.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
I’d sell if the 10yr reverses. I.e., DXY is down:
U.S. Dollar Index (DXY)
Last Updated: Dec 1, 2022 11:19 a.m. ESTDelayed quote
104.96 -1.00 -0.94%
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
You sound far more sophisticated than me. Good luck with your investment ideas. And thank you so much for being willing to share them here. Its why I still come here. For investment ideas.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
Top. Bottom. Don’t care much.
I trade 25% of my portfolio and leave the other 75% invested for the long term. Over 60% of the portfolio is in oil stocks, which are up 70% this year. And up over 100% last year. And even more the year before that. Yet the critics here have been telling me the oil trade is over, every step of the way. What a bunch of morons. All they want to do is complain about govt and how “lucky” I have been to pick the right sector. Yet they could have listened to Realist years ago, as I did, and followed his advice on energy. Meanwhile, they have missed out on all the gains.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Right. Isn’t oil at a seasonal bottom? “OPEC+ to cut supply further and as easing COVID curbs in China raised the likelihood of higher demand from the world’s top crude importer”
Alan Blinder says that “food shocks and OPEC ii
(supply shocks) deserve much more blame for the alarming rise in inflation in
1979-1980.” But I disagree. Long-term money flows are down. I wouldn’t trade against them.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
My long term investing is based on this decade; as opposed to seasonal. No matter how you look at it, there simply will not be enough oil and gas supply going forward, due to a decade long reduction in capex spending by oil companies. And they are in no hurry to boost capex yet.
Many thought that $120 oil would open the capex floodgates earlier this year; but it didn’t.
Oil companies have found discipline. Which has proven wise as oil has dropped back to $80, thanks to SPR releases. Now SPR releases are done, and as you say, Chinese demand has likely bottomed.
The elephant in the room though is OPEC. They are now the swing producer, and will adjust production to keep oil above $80.
Secondary is SPR refills which will set a floor of $70. If we ever get there again.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
ain t you lucky ….I bought Shell in 2019 at 25, ….10 years ago one could buy Exxon at its present price…..You ARE fn lucky! Believe me though, life nor the stock markets are one way lanes ! …So Warren ,don t forget to take some profit occasionally, I d say !
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Normally, I don’t see your posts, but this one somehow got through.
Shell traded between 57 and 70 in 2019. Don’t see how you could buy it at 25. Or did you just make that up?
In 2019 I was mostly into tech stocks. Then in 2020 I discovered this blog and read the oil scenario that was regularly explained by Realist.
Made sense to me so I dumped the tech and moved into oil.
You are correct: I was “lucky” to find this blog and some of the smart people who were commenting here at that time.
Too bad most people here can’t see the forest for the trees. It seems like almost everyone here is too busy moaning and complaining about a lot of useless stuff, while ignoring the advice that can actually change their lives.
Good to see you are still here moaning and complaining. Hopefully, I won’t see too many of your posts in the future.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Idiot I bought shell at 25 Euro in 2019 ….
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
3 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
On the day the market bottomed, I repeated myself 3 times:
That’s B.S.
Bottom’s in.
Mar 23, 2020. 10:34 AM
Absolutely. Didn’t take Nostradamus to see the fix was in.
That happened to be the day the Federal Reserve announced it was bailing out everything (if necessary) … statement made BEFORE markets opened, naturally.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
I live for profit.
It’s the only thing that’s worth living for.
/s
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
I feel sorry for you then. There is a lot more to life than just profits.
Even worse than that though is the fact that many here think the only important thing in life is moaning and complaining about the Fed or politicians. What a waste of their lives.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Before living for profit I live for complaining about politicians and moaning about the Fed.
/s
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago

Paul Volcker was quoted in the WSJ in 1983 that the Fed: “as
a matter of principle favors payment of interest on all reserve balances” …
“on rounds of equity”. [sic]

This Romulan cloaking device, the payment of interest on
IBDDs, vastly exceeded the level of short-term interest rates which is still
illegal per the FSRRA of 2006. That’s what caused the repo spike in Sept. 2009
(an interest rate inversion). Remember Reg. Q Ceilings that gave nonbanks a 3/4 point interest rate differential?

When you sterilize excess reserve balances, you’re
simultaneously increasing the supply of loan funds, LSAPs on sovereigns, while decreasing
the demand for Treasuries (taking them off the private funding market).

Bank-held savings, frozen savings, destroys the velocity of
circulation (idling more funds). Bank-held
savings have a zero payment’s velocity. The
FDIC raised insurance rates to unlimited for transaction accounts (like the
BOJ), sucking funds out of the nonbanks, inducing nonbank disintermediation.

–Danielle Dimartino Booth’s book: “Fed Up”, pg. 218

“Before the financial crisis, accounts were insured up to
the first $100,000 by the FDIC. That limit kept enormous sums in the shadow
banking system. After the crisis, the FDIC raised the insured account limit to
$250,000. But trillions of dollars still sate outside the traditional banking
system. The “safe” money had no place to go expect money market mutual funds
and government securities, leading to a shortage of T-Bills and a corresponding
drop in yield.”

The
suppression of interest rates (decline in real rates of interest) boosts relative
asset prices. BOE: “QE initially increases the amount of bank
deposits (outside money), those bank-holding companies own (in place of the
assets they sell). Those companies will then wish to rebalance their portfolios
of assets by buying higher-yielding assets, raising the price of those assets
and stimulating spending in the economy.”

(100) Quantitative Easing Is the Biggest Sham Ever (S3 E2) – YouTube
That’s example is how QE affects the stock market. But that analysis ignores the TGFA and
commercial bank credit.

And don’t forget, that c. 1
trillion in new bank capital, Basel III requirements, destroyed c. 1 trillion in the money stock.

Basel’s Capital Curse – Smart Future (vfu.bg)
Christoball
Christoball
3 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
Good video
OUdaveguy
OUdaveguy
3 years ago
2021 Lies: “Safe and effective” and “Inflation is transitory.” 2022 Lies: “Fed Pivot at any moment” and “Crypto has instrinsic value.” 2023 Lies: ?????
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  OUdaveguy
The election was stolen!!!1!
RonJ
RonJ
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Musk said Twitter interfered in elections. Add Facebook and Google to that list.
Dennis483
Dennis483
3 years ago
There is not a labor shortage. There is generally a mis-match between what labor wants for compensation vs. what employers want to pay. As an example, I hear and read story after story of Dollar General cannot keep employees due to wages and working conditions. Dollar General profits are up so corporate is fine with whatever is happening in the field. Counter to that is the Data Analyst field. I see tons of jobs advertised. However, junior data analyst positions require 4 years of this, 3 years of that, and every program language since DOS. Pilot shortage is another area that claims there is a shortage…there is not. Every pilot position has multiple candidates but, like data analysts, the employers are looking for Chuck Yeager to fill the seats. The problem is a lack of desired qualifications at the compensation employers want to provide.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Dennis483
Exactly.
Solution to labor shortage:
Increase pay offered.
Increase perks.
Christoball
Christoball
3 years ago
Reply to  Dennis483
Yes, pay people enough that they want to work for you. So many do not want to trade their youth for small money.
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Bear market rally
OUdaveguy
OUdaveguy
3 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Almost certainly.
prumbly
prumbly
3 years ago
Excessive retirements followed by excessive inflation making everyone poorer will likely lead to excessive retired people returning to work. Even old people have to eat.
OUdaveguy
OUdaveguy
3 years ago
Reply to  prumbly
Agree; and this has been visible for years. Florida’s restaurants are always staffed by the elderly; it’s a shocking sight coming from a place like Colorado where the demographics skew heavily to the younger age brackets.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  prumbly
Better to change your diet (more healthy?) than return to working (less healthy).
Scott Maze
Scott Maze
3 years ago
supply of workers… read ethical skeptic. birthrates. read edward dowd. disability.
worleyeoe
worleyeoe
3 years ago

“. . . whether or not de-globalization and decarbonization will add to inflation?” Powell said he “didn’t know”.

So just like transitory, he doesn’t know. What a crock of crap. Basically, he’s taking the same approach here, meaning he’ll have room next year to claim that the new PCE inflation target is 3% instead of 2.
My gawd, Powell, answer the freaking question to the best of your ability and not PUNT.
OUdaveguy
OUdaveguy
3 years ago
Reply to  worleyeoe
The Fed’s language is truly the language of euphemisms and deception. “Quantitative Easing,” “Tapering,” “Inflation,” “Transitory,” “Unconventional monetary policy”, “Liquidity,” the bankster list is nefarious and endless….
Webej
Webej
3 years ago
Reply to  worleyeoe
All these people are selected and paid not to speak up … they’re in it for personal rewards.
If they ever way anything, it is after retirement.
WarpartySerf
WarpartySerf
3 years ago
If “Irving Fisher” Powell wants to be compared to Volcker, then let him re-institute the same CPI that Volcker had.
And that puts true inflation well above 15%. Everybody knows this is the true level of inflation. Offering your serfs
a “Chinese” statistic of something like 7% deserves all the respect that figure demands. None.
8dots
8dots
3 years ago
DX // From the Plaza accord in 1984 @165 down to @78 in 1992. Up to 120, before plunging to a lower low to 71 in 2008. // 24Y from 1984
to nadir, From nadir 24 years to 2032. DX might pop to the 150 area, or above. // Why : we don’t know. For fun and entertainment only.
Scooot
Scooot
3 years ago

On inflation over here. BT have have just agreed with the Union worker rises of between 6 & 16% depending on grades . Rail workers, Nurses, Postal Workers (might have missed some groups) are striking for inflation rises.

Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  Scooot
Rail workers are striking for sick pay
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
1 sick day is too little, but they want 15. Do they think they’re government employees?
Novak1958
Novak1958
3 years ago
The increased retirements is well known to me. My wife, brother, and a friend all retired during Covid, and none of them were at normal retirement age. My wife tired of her NY based company dictating Covid response in the Midwest – my brother’s workplace shut down. Three people who should still be working today.
OUdaveguy
OUdaveguy
3 years ago
Reply to  Novak1958
Worker’s comp fraud, stimmy checks, “debt forgiveness”, authoritarian Wu-Flu policies, reverse discrimination policies, low pay…..we are truly on target for an Atlas Shrugged moment….
shamrock
shamrock
3 years ago
Powell is Santa not the Grinch now. The post mid-term election and santa clause rally is under way $$$.
BTW today put the DOW 30 into bull market. Amazing.
OUdaveguy
OUdaveguy
3 years ago
Reply to  shamrock
Can we truly have a bull market with these headwinds? Rising interest rates (just not at the fastest pace ever), drained strategic petroleum reserve and dependence on foreign oil cartel again, looming strikes, double digit inflation, crypto contagion, a massive and costly proxy war, geopolitical unraveling in China and many other places, debt overload across the spectrum, housing crash, whole sectors like tech doing mass layoffs, surge in unexplained deaths (many of us were injured by the mRNA injections like myself), etc. Even with the stock market being “forward looking”, that’s a lot of damage yet to be priced in…..
Bbbbbbb
Bbbbbbb
3 years ago
Did Powell blow a housing bubble? Or did housing act as every financial instrument behaves in a period of speculative binge and policy followed? If Powell, or any of the FED chairs (from Greenspan on), had pulled the plug on the party they would have been burned at the stake. It’s easy to point the finger at the FED, but the system calls the shots, creates bubbles for fun and profit, then walks directly to the cashier with their bailout checks.
Avery
Avery
3 years ago
Reply to  Bbbbbbb
Greenspan “Irrational Exuberance Speech” – 1996. He backtracked, of course.
OUdaveguy
OUdaveguy
3 years ago
Reply to  Bbbbbbb
A housing Tulip mania….a digital Tulip mania with crypto, a Pets.com tech sector 2.0 Tulip mania….all together at the same time. Yeah, that was our central banksters who enabled and fueled these disasters.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
If that caused a rally, then the market is already about to crash. I no longer keep up with it, but I’m guessing we’ve been seeing some wild swings lately if that was good news and moved the market.. Of course, many knowledgeable people believe the FED and the Treasury’s Plunge Protection Team are some of the top investors on Wall Street.
Avery
Avery
3 years ago
Washington DC needs to be de-carbonized of the political vermin, including K Street and the bureaucratic agency parasites.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  Avery
The country also needs a cull of angry, violent morons.
OUdaveguy
OUdaveguy
3 years ago
Reply to  Avery
Well said. Beltway parasites are arguably the greatest threat today to the survival of the Republic. Literally, every policy or bill that emerges from the Swamp’s lobbyists is harmful to families, Main Street USA, and the Constitution…..
Bohm-Bawerk
Bohm-Bawerk
3 years ago
50 basis point hikes based on what they have done already so quickly especially with starting at 0, isn’t really dovish but we’re apparently in a new world.
OUdaveguy
OUdaveguy
3 years ago
Reply to  Bohm-Bawerk
I’m incredulous at how “the market” reacted. I just wonder how much was algos and bots….
Bohm-Bawerk
Bohm-Bawerk
3 years ago
Maybe he is now afraid of the hard landing, maybe he knows something we don’t (something is close to breaking?), maybe he wants to goose it for year end reports and all those people open up their statements. For whatever reason, this was not the Jackson hole pain speech.
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
3 years ago
Reply to  Bohm-Bawerk
He knows that he needs higher unemployment. He even admitted it with subtle language about restoring the labor equilibrium. He also probably expects that it will take a lot longer than is desirable to get the UE rate up, since it has been very slow to react thus far, and a lot of the folks who have left the labor force are not the most likely demographics to rejoin. Lots of them can live off their bubble profits forever.
OUdaveguy
OUdaveguy
3 years ago
I just want to see CNBC interview all those new Dogecoin millionaires instead of Cramer talking his book all day!

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