There is a Negative Demand for Deposits to the Tune of 1.1 Trillion Dollars

Repos and QE Q&A

Repos are a cash injection by the Fed to banks. The Fed gives cash to banks in return for collateral, typically short-term treasuries. The Fed’s QE program is accomplished by outright purchases (but that is effectively the same as short term repos continually applied).

Reverse repos are the opposite. It’s a cash drain from banks. Thus, the Fed has unwound over $1 trillion of its QE program.

Q: Is the Fed still continuing QE?
A: Yes, to the tune of $120 billion a month.

Q: Is the Fed simultaneously doing a $120 billion monthly injection coupled with a $1 trillion drain?
A: Yes, exactly

Q: Does this make any sense?
A: Of course not.

Smooth Functioning!?

The Fed has been pumping $120 billion a month into banks and has now taken back nearly a year’s worth of QE.

Nonetheless, New York Fed President John Williams said that the reverse repo system “was working really well,” and that there were “really, no concerns about that. We expected that to happen. It’s working exactly as designed.”

Banks are So Stuffed With Cash They Tell Companies: No More Deposits

On June 10, I commented Banks are So Stuffed With Cash They Tell Companies: No More Deposits

Some banks, awash in deposits, are encouraging corporate clients to spend the cash on their businesses or move it elsewhere. It’s a strange case of “No More Cash Please“.

“Raising capital against deposits and/or turning away deposits are unnatural actions for banks and cannot be good for the system in the long run,” Jennifer Piepszak, then-CFO of JPMorgan Chase & Co., said on a call with analysts in April.

In recent months, banks including BNY Mellon have focused on moving clients from deposits into money-market funds. The money-market funds, in turn, need new places to park all that new cash and earn some interest. But rock-bottom interest rates have pushed them into storing it back at the Federal Reserve overnight, in a facility that pays them zero return and had been largely ignored for the past three years

Negative Demand for Deposits

The Fed is conducting huge, escalating amounts of reverse repos because there is a negative demand for deposits from financial institutions. 

The Fed pushed interest rates (Effective Fed Funds Rate) to nearly zero, currently 0.10%.

Non-banks (especially money market mutual funds) are getting clobbered. The one-month T-Bill rate is 0.04%. If their expenses amount to more than 0.04% or they pay more than 0.04% they are losing money on deposits.

In addition, banks have capital requirements. 

It’s important to note that deposits are a bank liability. Banks have to hold capital (raise money) to offset those liabilities. 

The Fed is forcing trillions of dollars down the throats of financial institutions that the institutions do not want and cannot use. 

Working Really Well?!

This seemingly ridiculous process is allegedly:

  1. working really well
  2. as expected with no concerns
  3. exactly as designed
  4. thereby supporting the flow of credit to households and businesses

Free Money To Banks

As of June 2021, updated on July 27, 2021 (the Fed stopped daily and weekly updates), Total Reserves of depository institutions was $3.85 trillion.

The Fed does update daily the Interest Rate on Reserve Balances, currently 0.15%

On March 26, 2020, the Fed eliminated the requirement that banks hold reserves on deposits.

On that date I reported Fictional Reserve Lending Is the New Official Policy.

Since there are no excess reserves, all reserves = excess reserves.

The Fed is paying banks 0.15% free money on $3.85 trillion. Annually that is $5,775,000,000.

Why the Scramble to Get Rid of $1.1 Trillion?

Only banks get 0.15%. Other financial institutions scrambling to get rid of cash previously did not get anything at all.

The Fed had to start paying the money market funds something via reverse repos otherwise the overnight rate would drop into negative territory and money market funds would have to charge customers for deposits

Amusingly the Fed says this is working really well, as expected, with no concerns.

Why Don’t Banks Lend the Money? 

Banks do not lend from deposits, a liability. Besides QE is a swap and not their money to lend.

Banks lend when they believe they have a creditworthy customer who wants to borrow. The only limitation to banks making loans out of thin air is capital impairment. Banks do not lend if they are capital impaired.

Bank lending itself borrows money into existence. But it’s voluntary, not forced by the Fed. Banks try to charge enough interest overall to cover defaults when they make a bad loan. 

BIS Appraisal of Unconventional Monetary Policies

The BIS made three key points regarding Unconventional Monetary Policies

Key Points

  1. Reserves do not play into bank lending decisions
  2. The main constraint on expansion of credit is minimum capital requirements.
  3. There is nothing inherently inflationary about large reserves.

When the BIS says “nothing inherently inflationary” I agree from a CPI standpoint.


However, artificially low rates do encourage financial speculation that constitutes inflation (until the bubbles burst) but is very difficult to quantify.

QE vs Fiscal Stimulus

It’s important to note the enormous difference between QE and deposits resulting from fiscal stimulus (government checks, unemployment insurance, etc).

QE does not represent money banks can spend. It is not their money. It’s an asset swap. 

In contrast, customer deposits are indeed readily spendable by customers. 

Will the Fed Balance Sheet Get Spent into Circulation Causing Inflation?

Unfortunately, widely read individuals propagate myths about QE getting spent into circulation. 

I covered the idea in detail in Will the Fed Balance Sheet Get Spent into Circulation Causing Inflation?

What is the Best Measure of Monetary Inflation?

QE, fiscal spending, and stimulus all add to M2. But the QE portion of M2 is fake. QE is not spendable money, nor money that was ever spent, nor money that ever will be spent!

Since QE never enters the economy. M2 is overstated by the amount of QE. 

Friedman Parrots

Milton Friedman’s statement “Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon,” is catchy. But it sheds little light on anything especially when people confuse QE with actual spendable money.

If someone parrots Friedman, ask them what their measure of money is and why. Then ask them how much inflation has risen in the last year

Don’t expect an intelligent conversation. 

Instead, please read Lacy Hunt On Debt and Friedman’s Famous Quote Regarding Inflation and Money.

QE Isn’t Harmless, It’s a Dangerous Addiction

Whatever your measure of money, it should not include QE, but that does not mean QE is harmless.

QE sponsors bubbles by artificially lowering interest rates, it’s free money to banks, distorts money markets, and central banks are addicted to it. 

For discussion, please see The House of Lords is Concerned Over a Dangerous Addiction to QE.

For a discussion of the monetary aspect of QE please see What is the Best Measure of Monetary Inflation?

Coming up, I will update my charts as to how “well” QE has spurred bank lending. 

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Casual Reader
Casual Reader
2 years ago
I think a better way to put it is that QE doesnt change the spending power of whoever is exchanging treasuries for cash (for a non-bank seller). Afterall, whoever holds treasuries can always convert them to cash without any problem and spend it however they wish. The fact that this additional cash (with a commercial bank as an intermediary – reserves/deposits) came from the fed shouldn’t change the spending decission of the seller of treasuries. But again, it is certainly spendable money. In fact, that money probably gets “spent” on another financial asset, burdening the seller of that asset with the headache of what to do with the new deposit. And so the hot potatoe, the zero yielding cash, goes around among entities that don’t want to spend it on goods and services.
Money handed out by the treasury DOES change spending power of those receiving stimulus money. That money is almost certain to get spent on goods and services (and maybe some on dogecoin). But it is not the form of money that determines if it gets spent, it’s the change in the spending power of the receipient of the new deposit. 
Cocoa
Cocoa
2 years ago
Reply to  Casual Reader
QE is generally used to create a market for treasuries and keeping the rates from increasing which in turn would drive up the cost of borrowing to buy an asset. 
Repo bailed out banks caught by Mr. Margin before pandemic, as everyone ran to the USD(they knew it was a problem before anyone did)
KidHorn
KidHorn
2 years ago
Reply to  Casual Reader
I agree. QE definitely adds to spendable money. All it does is replace bonds with cash. Whoever or whatever sold the bonds will now have cash.
Casual Reader
Casual Reader
2 years ago
I am a little confused about the categorical “QE money can’t be spent”. Isn’t the real answer “it depends”? Ok if a bank sells to the fed – swaps one asset (tsys) for another (reserves). But what if the seller is a non-bank? What if I, Joe Shmo, sell to the fed (I sell to the bank, bank sells to the fed)? Doesn’t the bank create a deposit for me (and they get reserves from the fed) which i can spend as i wish?
Look at the increase in deposits at banks during the depths of the crisis in March 2020 when the fed was buying 70bb of treasuries per day. Fed’s H8 report shows that total deposits in the system went up by 343bb for the week ending march 25th. Clearly the fed’s bids weren’t being filled by banks, otherwise we would see a decrease in treasuries and an increase in reserves, and no change on the liability side (deposits). Instead, 340bb of deposits were created in a week!!! A deposit is money that can be spent on whatever you wish, at least theoretically. I get it that it most likely it won’t be spent on pools and RVs right away as it is an asset swap in someone’s retirement account or some such. But I think it is false to say “QE money CAN’T be spent”. I think it is more nuanced and it depends on the mix of the seller’s motivations/preferences/constraints. 
Cocoa
Cocoa
2 years ago
Seems convenient. Banks get free cash as Bond rates increase and prices decrease. When the economy goes into full reverse, they can get their bonds back in a bond bull market and make some profit? Rinse and repeat, since banks are not making any money lending anymore.
amigator
amigator
2 years ago
Reply to  Cocoa
Excellent point.  But why do you say banks are not making money lending anymore?  Isn’t the monies lended out essentially “printed” monies if these loans are paid back that’s a pretty good profit?
Cocoa
Cocoa
2 years ago
Reply to  amigator
You need someone to lend to…and if borrowers are not viable or the banks are scared witless again, they won’t lend. Please note that Wells Fargo is ceasing lines of credit for most customers. They would rather make money on credit cards than to loan in low interest environment with high risk, larger loans. 
Repo and Reverse Repo markets are a scam-essentially creates a fake market for US Treasuries when auctions start faltering. Banks know they can get payola guaranteed from FED if the FED crams cash down their throats, mops up the bank treasuries and notes and then takes the cash back and gives the bonds back to banks in a bond bull market. Banks know when it’s happening. Fed knows when they need to cattleherd buyers to sellers of bonds.Previous to this technique, FED had to crash stock market to scare bond buying.
China and others have been dumping treasuries to shore up their own problems and they know there is a new market.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
As I wonder about the impact of the next cash infusion from DBI (Democrat Boondoggles Inc), I’m glad we have President Biden, alka Captain Cluster F*(k at the helm to navigate the stormy seas ahead.
Inquiring minds what to know; Is this a good time to buy gold, or am I better off with crypto?
Quark711
Quark711
2 years ago
Sentiment is wildly bullish for stocks and real estate, to name just two areas of excess. Coupled with “cash is trash“, makes me think we’re close to a top. I agree with Mish that at least initially (i.e., until the pain is too great), deflation is coming. 
The financial media always has some BS “reason” for every move in every market, as if they know anything. Just once I’d like to see one of them say something like, “Today the DJIA went down 314 points because there were more sellers than buyers. I have no &#$^#% idea why!” 
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
Reply to  Quark711
For every ‘wildly bullish’ buyer, there is a seller–who believes the party is over.
Quark711
Quark711
2 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Thanks Captain Obvious. The point was sentiment extremes can help time major market turning points. When the holders of any financial instrument believe a market trend won’t change significantly, it’s certainly at least a yellow flag.
A perfect recent example is lumber. When it was topping in April and May there were all kinds of great reasons lumber just HAD to keep going up! Builders can’t keep up with demand! Real estate is exploding! Now it’s 3.5 months later and LBS is down 78%. Gee, I wonder what happened?! Could it be the “expert” fundamental analysts once again missed a major turning point?!
Bulls shouldn’t worry though. All those “experts” with all those reasons to be bullish can’t be wrong every time, can they? Of course they can’t. They have a shameless, default answer to explain every missed major turning point. “Nobody saw that coming!”
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
Reply to  Quark711
Implied in my comment was the quality of  information available to sellers and buyers. Rapid and large price changes might reflect asymmetry of information, particularly with regard to expectations of future prices. 
That said, fundamentals are still fundamental. Supply was decreased because of Covid, so that had an impact. Primarily, pent up demand for housing induced  price shock for lumber. Overall housing demand is a function of the usual demand factors, income, population, prices of substitutes/complements, tastes and preferences, and expectations of future prices. So what changed? 
In my view, the price shock was only to be expected post Covid, and it would be relatively short-lived, short of major migration away from certain cities.
Like lemmings, the uninformed always rush with the herd, making a demand/supply imbalance far greater. So yes, I agree with your ‘sentiment extremes’. IMHO, by the time the lemmings run, it is too late to get in/out of the herd.
Quark711
Quark711
2 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Thanks for the follow-up. The reasons you noted for lumber’s price collapse are certainly reasonable now, after the fact. If you foresaw all or even some of them near the top, then kudos to you!
What I’ve observed through the years is the information available to the typical investor when it actually matters (!) is generally worthless, except as part of a contrary indicator. In every case near major market tops, the din from breathless bullish opinions and pronouncements, all full of “reasons” to support being a bull, is a cacophony. That’s the point I was trying to (poorly) make. When bullish sentiment gets extreme, pretty much everyone who wants to get in is in and I’m getting out. It’s difficult, because I’ve missed the end of some moves that went on much further than I thought, but when a market goes exponential, it eventually comes back below the point where it took off. 
I never know exactly when the market will go down, and I most certainly have NO IDEA why it will go down, but go down it will, and afterward, that’s when the “whys” will be discovered. I’m old enough to remember gold and silver in 1980. My Dad got out a few weeks after the turn because he said “This is nuts!  Cronkite is reporting the price of gold every night.” Not long after, he bought 30 year T-Bonds at 12.75%! His reasoning was pretty much the same. The move in rates wasn’t sustainable and he figured the US wasn’t going to go under, so why not buy some?  
You’re SPOT ON with this: “Like lemmings, the uninformed always rush with the herd, making a demand/supply imbalance far greater. So yes, I agree with your ‘sentiment extremes’. IMHO, by the time the lemmings run, it is too late to get in/out of the herd.” 
Yep! Those imbalances are the impact of emotions. Good ol’ greed (including FOMO) and fear is what really moves the market. I guess I’d have to add insanity. How else could a little electric car company be valued higher than the next six largest? 
Roger_Ramjet
Roger_Ramjet
2 years ago
I think that a lot of the cash is coming from large money market funds, and not just banks.  The Fed purposely included participation by money market funds with the Reverse Repo facility. 
This is a no brainer for money market funds as the Fed is offering 5 basis points and pristine collateral (T bills) to back up the overnight loan.  If the Fed did not include the large money market funds, you would probably see short term rates pushing into negative territory, which is a big no no.
I fully expect participation with the reverse repo facility to rise much, much further, particularly if the market turns nasty.  The last thing the Fed needs is for a large money market fund to break the buck.
Mish
Mish
2 years ago
Reply to  Roger_Ramjet
“If the Fed did not include the large money market funds, you would probably see short term rates pushing into negative territory, which is a big no no.”
Bingo
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
This is not going to end well. We already have inflation. I suspect we get massive deflation due to collapse of economy irrespective of what the the Fed does. Maybe the markets will go to the moon but that doesn’t mean anything for the economy. In fact derivatives spiking commodity prices will make the real economy worse. I see a repeat of the 1930s ahead. 
goldguy
goldguy
2 years ago
I agree, good comments.
Kick'n
Kick’n
2 years ago
“I see a repeat of the 1930s ahead.” And maybe geopolitically as well…

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