People’s Choice Civil War
The People’s Vote campaign has disintegrated.
Eurointelligence calls it a Civil War.
The second referendum campaign – or the People’s Vote as they euphemistically call themselves – had a very bad day. The infighting that has been going on under the surface erupted into the open amid a classic power struggle. The so-call People’s Vote is a coalition of nine organisations with different aims. One of the PV’s ringleaders is Roland Rudd, the brother of Amber Rudd, and one of the leaders pro-Remain campaigners in 2016. He is the head of Open Britain, one of the organisations behind the PV campaign. He fired two people over the weekend: the head of communications and the campaign director. But they refused to go, challenging Rudd’s right to dismiss them. They are backed by Alistair Campbell, Tony Blair’s former enforcer. There was a staff walk-out yesterday as the whole thing descended into chaos.
So, what is this about?
The two men dismissed by Rudd wanted to keep the PV campaign on the straight and narrow by focusing on the second referendum. Others want the PV to become a vehicle to revoke Brexit by whichever means possible. The split in the PV campaign is the counterpart of what is happening on the opposition benches in the UK parliament. The LibDems no longer back a second referendum, and have switched their strategy to full-on support for Brexit revocation. Labour’s official position is to hold a second referendum after it negotiates a customs union deal with the EU.
We noted a comment on Twitter yesterday that the PV is not really about Brexit but about its supporters’ grip on power. It is the crowd that used to run the country. When they started to win their big political battles in the mid-to-late 1990s, they thought they had defeated the Thatcherite right forever. To them Brexit came as a complete shock for which they were ill-prepared in 2016. We noted at the time that they never reflected on the deep causes of their defeat, and moved on seamlessly to the second referendum campaign.
This is contrary to the pro-Remain agenda of Eurointelligence. Yet, they discuss it.
Most of the the pro-Remain mainstream media does not want to discuss such events.
Amber Rudd Stands Down
The Guardian Live Blog noted “Amber Rudd and David Lidington, respectively the ex-home secretary and Theresa May’s former de facto deputy, have both announced they are among an increasing number of sitting MPs who will quit at the coming election.”
‘An honour, not a right’ – Tory chief whip tells Amber Rudd why she can’t have whip restored as she quits.
Remainers standing down or having their party affiliation revoked is good news.
Good riddance. And …
Good Riddance to Speaker Bercow
Lots of good news today for Boris Johnson including news of a Farage-Tory Alliance.
Mike “Mish” Shedlock
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Oh dear. This absurd business of democracy and voting has gotten completely out of hand. They vote wrong every time now. It should have been done away with a long time ago.
“The second referendum campaign – or the People’s Vote…”
The people’s vote occurred in June, 2016. The people decided to Brexit.
“This is contrary to the pro-Remain agenda of Eurointelligence. Yet, they discuss it.”
Eurointelligence says they didn’t stop to reflect on their defeat and moved straight to second referendum. As pro-remain what would Eurointelligence suggest as course of action besides delays and parliamentary revocation, to remain ? After that the first WA , now the current WA as next best ? So to me it looks like eurointelligence is doing just the same, dissasociating itself from other remainers, and clinging “pragmatically” to available options it sees most fit to influence. None of those contain honour or loyalty to UK from a leaver’s perspective though, and hopefully soon there will be no remainers left, because we will be out. I guess then we will have “the let’s make it up with EU again” movement, or eunionists. Avid will have to change his name to Avidgonner or Avidreunionator.
Anyway, I stopped with eurointelligence a long time ago, when they started asking paid access. I even wrote explaining why free access was nescessary for myself, as per study and other exceptions they were making. Alas no, either they did not want to hear the thoughts of a eurosceptic or they had their eyes on the money. Sorry chaps there, but your analysis does give a decent background of information to turn over all the same. I dread to think what you would be writing about in the place of brexit though.
What do they need a People’s Vote for? What change has there been that they need to overturn?
The People voted wrong.
They need a people’s vote because only clueless epsilon minus semi-morons like you and me voted in favour of Brexit last time around. And we can hardly be considered proper ‘people’. Alphas, betas, deltas etc – that is, the ‘elite’ – won’t let the same mistake happen again and hence the need for a proper ‘people’s vote’ by the people and for the people. What did Junker say the other day … ‘To the 48% – you were right.’ That is ‘the rest of the world is marching out of step to me, so the rest of the world must be wrong’. That includes us pal!
Mish thanks for your Brexit coverage. It is the best I have found on this side of the Atlantic.
I agree. And, while he has an opinion, he makes it clear what that is, and doesn’t try to hide it in the “news”. Also, I appreciate that his opinion is counterbalanced by the uncensored comments from people like Herkie and Avidremainer, so that we can see different perspectives on the events.
Thank you for the mention.What I like about this site is that it is intelligent. With certain exceptions people respond to the argument made, whether you agree with them or not it is civilised.
Precisely. You see disagreements about substance, not personal attacks. Brexit, in particular is a crazy event, and no one person could possibly anticipate correctly all the crazy turns and twists is has taken, or will take in the future, so the best thing is to have a variety of opinions. Edit – and no sooner do I post this that we get an atypical thread of personal attack comments on another article. Oh well.
May have to eat my words.
What was the lead that Theresa May had at the start of her campaign?
Its all very scary! Happy Halloween! A riot had broken out at the Miami Aerospace Academy, a private military school in Little Havana, where screaming students were said to be “possessed by spirits.” This was no trick-or-treat prank. One teenager was unconscious; others injured. Kids had smashed windows and ripped doors from their hinges. Police and firefighters who raced to the scene found hundreds of hysterical high schoolers fleeing the building as if it were ablaze.
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Brilliant letter, by the way.
‘It’s an honour, not a right’…..if you listen carefully, you can hear the “entitled generation” screaming and waving their jazzhands!
Eurointelligence is certainly right about one thing – all the Tony Blairs and Hillary Clintons and Jose Barossos of this world not only moulded the world we live in today. But were totally, absolutely and completely oblivious about how the world utterly despised them for it.
And yet, “The World” is busier than ever, doubling down on clowns, drawn from the exact same cesspool of economic illiteracy and unlimited fascination with turning everywhere into yet another progressive totalitarian dystopia. Indoctrination does indeed work, it seems.
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer bunch of people.
I half wish we could get a “people’s vote” if only to see how convoluted the question ends up being and what tortures they endure trying to sort out all the variations of, “Do you accept that you are too thick to understand why Brussels is wonderful?”
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I have confirmation from the Maven that an Akismet spam filter is responsible for the missing comments of Fulgurite and others.
The filter is terrible. It let’s foreign language gibberish gibberish and multiple spammers post.
The Maven is looking at a solution.
Indeed a terrible filter. It even let CountryBob’s comments through..
“I have confirmation from the Maven that an Akismet spam filter is responsible for the missing comments of Fulturite and others.”
Sounds like some sort of Super-Sleuth coded announcement a la Comey or Brennan.
I still don’t see an edit button, despite comments saying one can now edit.
A spam filter is never a finished product. The spammers will always tune their spam until they find a way around it. You will always need some human backup, too.
Tory Farage alliance? Be careful what you wish for.
But the letter to Amber Rudd, man she must have killed a couple bottles of rose after reading that. Good luck outside of the Commons! Take that bitch.
Sorry mate Rose not strong enough, probably two bottles of gin without the tonic.
I did not want to imply that she was less than a temperate woman. Just that that letter was a real burn, 3rd degree. I like the way he ended it with “I am happy to discuss this matter further if you so wish.” Even I can see that is British upper crust for “kindly go F%&@ yourself and never bother loyal people again you backstabbing bitch. ”
Is there actually a chance the Brexit will finally happen? Some politicians think they can win by delaying things indefinitely. Good luck Brits.
If it was America, and Britain is increasingly moving in that direction as well: Once excuses for further delays finally do run out…… In comes the ambulance chasers…… Claiming dimples in The People’s chads during The People’s Vote in The People’s Republic, means that they have to be given power to “deem” that the charade must start all over. Such that The People is given a chance to get The People’s Vote in The People’s Republic right this time…. Otherwise, The Syyystem Wiillll Colaaapse……