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Trump No Longer the Odds-On Favorite to Win in November

Until now, the one thing Trump supporters could and did repeat was their guy was ahead. That’s no longer the case.

A quick check on PredictIt shows Biden is ahead of Trump and has been there for a while.

That chart is stale by a day. As I type, it is 54-47. 

Bible-Toting Fiasco

Trump’s bible toting fiasco was the impetus for the change.

Something Changed for the Better: Trump’s Bubble Just Shattered

On June 3, I commented Something Changed for the Better: Trump’s Bubble Just Shattered

Trump made a complete fool out of himself. Fout Republican Senators criticized his photo-op stunt as did Mike Mullen , Seventeenth chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Millen wrote an Op-Ed: I Cannot Remain Silent.

James N. Miller Resigns

James N. Miller, Defense Science Board Member and former under secretary of defense for policy from 2012 to 2014 resigned.

Miller accused Trump and Secretary of Defense Esper of blatant actions that cross the line.

Retired Marine General Latest to Admonish Trump

On June 4, a Retired Marine General Admonished Trump.

Retired top Marine Gen. John Allen joins Mattis dissent from Trump.

Allen warns of ‘Beginning of the End’ for Democracy if troops are used against protests.

Facts of the Matter

Clearly, some people are still in denial.

How do I know that?

Easy.

  1. It is not often four Republican Senators openly blast Trump.
  2. It is not often that only 2 Republican Senators defend Trump.
  3. It is not often retired admirals blast a sitting president
  4. It is not often an ex-Defense Secretary blasts a sitting president
  5. It is not often a chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff says “I Cannot Remain Silent.”
  6. It is not often someone turns in their resignation to the current Defense Secretary, accusing the Secretary and Trump of “crossing the line”.

Trump’s supporters look the other way.

They fabricate excuses like the protest was not peaceful, besides “It was not teargas“. 

Amazing Lengths

Trump’s supporters twist themselves in knots to avoid admitting he did anything wrong.

Regardless of denials something snapped. 

 I chimed in with the same message Trump is a Threat to the Constitution.

“Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead, he tries to divide us,” Mattis writes. “We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. 

Trump’s Disapproval Over Time

Trump’s core support is about 36-38%.

These people will vote for Trump no matter what he does. But except for one brief moment at election time Trump cannot break the 45% approval line.

A quick check on the 538 Trump Tracker shows Trump is still at 41.6%.

This election will not be wonm nationally but at the state level. There, Trump continues to fall further and further begind.

Mish

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debracarter
debracarter
6 years ago

Some people, all they wanted to do is, “blame shame”. So, I used to say,” sorry” all the time. That way, we could get on with our agenda, life, & keep going. It was simple, & I knew that, I didn’t do the ugly deed, & what was the hurt? Now, people are saying it to me, by the hundreds@conversation , @ one point, since 2000! I hope all these negative comments, that are about Trump, will come to light, & I’m aware, he usually is, “doing it again”! Once you figure that out, then, you’ll be more aware. It’s not easy to be in any higher position right now. Maybe someday, you’ll figure it out!

mcgoverntm
mcgoverntm
6 years ago

I’m an anarcho-capitalist libertarian and no fan of Trump. Trump has slipped lately, but the head-to-head campaign won’t start until after the nominating conventions. What will happen when Biden and Trump face each other in a live debate? Biden will stumble, fumble, mumble, and otherwise convince all of the “undecideds” that he’s mentally-feeble.

mcgoverntm
mcgoverntm
6 years ago
Reply to  mcgoverntm

It will be like the courtroom scene in The Caine Mutiny.

Jack and Joan
Jack and Joan
6 years ago

When Sleepy Joe puts his foot in his mouth that will end his campaign

JanNL
JanNL
6 years ago

I hope you’re wrong… He may not be very presidential, but his instincts are more right then wrong. As opposed to those of the other party.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
6 years ago

The-Blacklist
The-Blacklist
6 years ago

I wonder if any of the white people commenting that there is no such thing as police brutality specifically against blacks knows any actual black people. Or if they have asked any black people about there experiences with police. You can ask me. I have had my civil and human rights violated by police officers multiple times, while no crimes were being committed by me. You live in denial because you are racist, and you view the police as some type of force that stands up for and protects white people from the savage abuses of black people. That if not for the police, we would overrun your country, kill and enslave you, rape your women and destroy your communities. Well, sorry, but that’s not what WE do, that’s what YOU do. I mean thats the reason I’m in America right? Your ancestors didn’t want to do their own work. So miss me with that BS alt-right, white supremacist viewpoint that you try to veil under the cover of intelligence, of which you have none. Any person that believes that the United States is not a nation COMPLETELY built and dependent upon a racist system is a true idiot. I challenge any of you to do anything better than jack off, get on the internet and say of bunch of weak, false crap, and then go cower under your bed because the big black man might get you. Racism is such a weak minded philosophy its almost funny, but its not. So understand that from this point on, if you want to be racist, there will be consequences. You won’t see them coming, but they will personally affect you. The lives of any bigot or racist, all of you in fact, are about to be ruined. Come get some!

Corvinus
Corvinus
6 years ago
Reply to  The-Blacklist

Why is anyone who expresses an opinion other than “Blacks are universally wonderful people” automatically assumed to be a racist anglo-germanic white? Isn’t his a racist statement in and of itself? I am a first generation immigrant from Southern Europe and lived in lagely Black dominated cities like Newark NJ, Bronx NY and other places in the tri-state area. Would you like me to recount my experiences with the Black community in those places? You will likely not like the result; even more likely I will be accused of racism and propagating negative stereotypes. The one element I see missing in many if not most of the Black leadership in this country is some honest self-reflection and admission of responsibility. Every problem, every failing is because of slavery and being oppressed by the white man. The Black leaders who do comment on this subject and offer another point of view, like Larry Elder or Thomas Sowell are excoriated by the misery pimps in Black community with the full complicity of the white liberals in the media. It is the white liberals themselves who are the biggest culprits in the Blacks’ because they are pimping off the cheap emotionalism. When was the last time we saw a concerted effort by the so called ‘white supremacists’? Other than the Charlottesville Unite the White rally when was the last ‘white Power’ riot and what was its scope? How many blacks were systematically targeted by these people in the recent past? By contrast how many Black on Black killings occurred in mostly Black metro areas?

The-Blacklist
The-Blacklist
6 years ago
Reply to  Corvinus

I’ve heard all the closet-racist, bigotry-excusing arguments you post many times. I don’t care about your personal experiences. Ask me about my experiences with white people. You’re talking about individual personal bias. Sidenote, black people have plenty of reason to be biased against whites. The main difference here is, WE DID NOT ASK TO COME HERE! This is not just the responsibility of the descendants of slave owners. YOUR ancestors came here afterwards and benefited from an already-engaged racist hierarchy but not once did they speak up for the rights of the African-Americans who were already here, being abused and suffering under white domination. Miss me with that BS. You’re not black so unless you are actively trying to fix the problem, your opinion has no validity. Because we live in a racist system, either you are anti-racist, or you are racist. There is nothing in between. If there was, if you honestly didn’t have an opinion either way, if you were race-neutral or colorblind as they say, you would not be on this page, and you would have especially not have responded to my comment. I can feel the anti-black resentment seething from your statements about your horrific experiences being bullied on by those savage blacks. Poor you! GTFOH with that white misery crap, people like you make decent white people look bad. I bet you think you’re a patriot too. Try being black for one day and then shut yo mouth.

Carl_R
Carl_R
6 years ago
Reply to  The-Blacklist

I have had many black friends, in elementary school, high school and college. When I was four, we had a black man live with our family for several years, while he was in college, and he’s now a minister in Jamaica, and a wonderful man. I’ve had black employees, including one who was my top manager. I was never raised to see any difference. Race is a non factor to me. My business is small, only perhaps a dozen people, but we’ve had, in addition to blacks and whites, Vietnamese, Chinese, Turks, and Ukranianians, among others. We have never had any racial incidents, and I wouldn’t have tolerated them. We have had some amazing pot luck lunches, however, where everyone is excited to try new foods. In my mind, this is exactly how it should be; all races getting along, working together, with no tension or hostility.

In answer to your question about interactions with the police, my black manager, who drove a BWM, was often stopped for no reason. One day he was even stopped while standing outside my building, again, for no reason. On the other hand, none of the confrontations were violent, and he did go down and register complaints, and demanded (and got) apologies. So, yes, there is racism in the police department, and it should not be condoned, but it does not have to lead to violence, and it certainly doesn’t have to prevent people from being successful in life.

Racism should never be tolerated, nor acceptable, and it makes no difference what races are involved.

JimmyScot
JimmyScot
6 years ago
Reply to  The-Blacklist

I am not American, Blacklist, but here are some home truths.

  1. Black people make up 15% of the US population
  2. Black people commit 52% of the murders
  3. 38% of arrests for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery and aggravated assault were black

All of which could be taken as evidence of racism, except for one fact: the proportion of arrests broadly aligns to the demographics and 21% of police shooters are non-white.

That is one aspect of the problem: black people are more likely to be criminals.

The second aspect of the problem is that the American police appear to be trained to escalate, not de-escalate, and they, and the people they are stopping, carry guns.

When you have a poorly trained policeman who has some legitimate fear of being killed (probably exaggerated in training), who is armed, faced with a black person who may be armed but who is 3 times more likely to kill you than a white person, you have an explosive situation.

That there is racism in America is not in doubt. Whether every police confrontation is racism is. Let’s not forget that the hero of the piece in this case is a career criminal who held a pregnant woman to the ground with a gun to her stomach…..

There is a big thing about “white guilt” in the UK now. When you have a minute look at the document below. Implicit within it is the idea that somehow I, the dirt poor child of dirt poor ancestors, share collective guilt for acts that were committed by other people long before I was born. The only characteristic we share is skin colour. Is that not racism too? How does the creation of more bigotry and racism solve the issue?

If we had a magic lens that could allow us to look at the world with skin colour removed, I think we would find that all of this is explained by deprivation. That, in itself, is a legacy of racism in the US at least. In the UK, it’s mostly a legacy of people moving here with nothing. But, bluntly, if you keep telling people that they can never succeed in life because of the actions of superior others, then you will create a very angry set of people who won’t succeed in life, thus perpetuating the cycle.

Sumer54
Sumer54
6 years ago
Reply to  JimmyScot

Black people make up 15% of the US population
Black people commit 52% of the murders
38% of arrests for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery and aggravated assault were black

I see these, simplistic, garbage-based arguments in more places than they should be posted.

I once countered a Yale-Oxford-Stanford-educated, think tank writer, funded by the Koch foundation, of course. After she deleted my comments, I put them back. We went back and forth, until she/someone finally decided to play with an even field. I recently noticed that all of the comments are gone. Go figure.

GARBAGE IN, GARBAGE OUT!!

Go ahead and tell me that these come from FBI statistics, before I tell you that many FBI statistics are voluntary, and, quite statistically unsound, when viewed on an aggregate basis.

It’s also very convenient for you, and, millions using ‘mob momentum’ data, like yours, to grab base data, interpret it in your favorable manner, while ignoring racial imbalances and disproportionate ratios of stops/searches/evidence/sentencing/etc., imbalances in jury selections, imbalances in plea bargains, imbalances in access to competent legal assistance, all of which lean heavily upon not just racial factors, but, economic factors, which are, of course, both highly correlated. All of these factors essentially tilt the balances of racially/economically distinguishable quantities of the population toward incarceration in the first place.

African Americans are only 13% of the American population but a majority of innocent defendants wrongfully convicted of crimes and later exonerated. They constitute 47% of the 1,900 exonerations listed in the National Registry of Exonerations (as of October 2016), and the great majority of more than 1,800 additional innocent defendants who were framed and convicted of crimes in 15 large-scale police scandals and later cleared in “group exonerations.”

We see this racial disparity for all major crime categories, but we examine it in this report in the context of the three types of crime that produce the largest numbers of exonerations in the Registry: murder, sexual assault, and drug crimes.

More specifically,
1 – Whites are more likely to gain plea bargains, and, receive lighter sentences.
2 – Black jurors are more likely to be eliminated from jury pools than whites.
3 – Black defendants are more likely to be offered plea deals that include prison time than whites or non-black minorities.
4 – Black convicts have their probation revoked more often than whites and other minorities, according to a recent study of probation outcomes in Iowa, New York, Oregon, and Texas.
5 – A 2014 study in New York City showed that blacks were more likely than whites or non-black minorities to be in jail while they await trial, even after controlling for the seriousness of charges and prior record.

Analysis by the London School of Economics and the Open Society Justice Initiative found that there are 60 searches for every 1,000 black people, compared to 1.6 for every 1,000 white people – making black people 26.6 times more likely to be stopped and searched.

Separately, possession of 28 grams of crack cocaine yields a five-year mandatory sentence minimum sentence for a first offense, while that sentence requires 500 grams of powder cocaine.

That’s an 18.8:1 advantage!

26.6 RATIO!
18.8 RATIO!

…..you can ignore these advantages in your false aggregate, but, your clueless denial is a much bigger problem than anyone’s behavior.

If
(1) you stop and search more whites, you’ll
(2) discover more crimes.

If you
(3) sentence more whites at the same rates as others, their ‘favorable’ comparison in criminal activity disappears, proving,
(4) your memory and biases of who ‘commits’, is ‘charged’, ‘serves time’ for criminal activity will be corrected!!

abend237-04
abend237-04
6 years ago

It’s a long way from being pissed at Trump, an obvious megalomaniac, to voting for Biden, and the real next president in waiting.
It’s waaaay too early to read the election tea leaves of November. We don’t even know if the four cop’s not guilty riots will be underway by then.

Zardoz
Zardoz
6 years ago
Reply to  abend237-04

It’s past being pissed at trump, and well into the realization that trump and his moron mob represent an existential threat, and are proud of it.

channelstuffing
channelstuffing
6 years ago

What has Trump done in 3 years other than rack up dept and pretend everything is “booming”?Obama got away with it and somehow managed to get relected,but how long can you pull that scam?6 trillion dollar annual deficits with nothin (less than nothin)to show for it!

Zardoz
Zardoz
6 years ago

He’s made a lot of fat, stupid, white people feel really good about themselves.

Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
6 years ago

I was unemployed more than employed during Obama’s 1st 4 years. I’ve been employed for the entirety of Trump’s term so far.

JJinTexas
JJinTexas
6 years ago

PLEASE do yourself and your readers a major favor and either start carefully proofreading your columns before they are published or hire a professional to proof them.

The numerous typos and poor syntax detract from what you’re trying to do.

Words matter.

Harbour
Harbour
6 years ago

Trump 2020!

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond
6 years ago
Reply to  Harbour

Trumpster for the dumpster.

Harbour
Harbour
6 years ago

MAGA!

Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
6 years ago

This is just more political kabuki theater. If that many Republicans wanted Trump out of office, they would have done one of two things: Found him guilty through the impeachment process OR held primaries to select a new candidate. Neither actions took place, so they are closet Trump supporters. Much of this disapproval by high level Republicans is nothing more than trying to convince voters to re-elect THEM.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond
6 years ago
Reply to  Six000mileyear

Trump is like the unwanted guest that overstays their welcome. People will only put up with so much before they say enough is enough. I think we have finally reached the tipping point where enough senior republicans publicly stand up and tell it like it is. A few months ago in this forum I forecast that Republicans would come to regret their performance during the impeachment process. Methinks that day is arriving sooner than I expected. Throw da bums out.

RayLopez
RayLopez
6 years ago

agree, except the impeachment part. Short of Trump becoming a double agent and murdering somebody, you have to give him the benefit of the doubt and no do impeachment, otherwise the US becomes like Italy, with dozens of PMs every decade. I also thought Nixon should not have been impeached and voted against Trump and Bush II.

Dexter EU
Dexter EU
6 years ago

Trump supporter over here – not because he’s doing a good job but because the alternative is worse AND it makes for great comedy, watching from across the pond (not that the “leaders” over here are any better, but still).

Quoting Mattis without criticizing the quote triggered me to reply. “Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead, he tries to divide us,” – time for some whataboutism. Appalling how Mattis chooses to completely ignore Obama’s reaction to the Ferguson unrest. Actually, Obama in many ways was the first president in decades to increase racist tensions by applying the “divide and conquer” strategy to races. Trump may not be doing a great job, but let’s not pretend Obama wasn’t worse.

spitituscanus
spitituscanus
6 years ago
Reply to  Dexter EU

this cite needs quite a few red pills

The-Blacklist
The-Blacklist
6 years ago
Reply to  Dexter EU

You are catastrophically racist and also possibly mentally challenged. I’m glad you’re not here in the US. Read a book dammit. And then go mind your own business.

The-Blacklist
The-Blacklist
6 years ago
Reply to  Dexter EU

Yes, “catastrophically” was the intended term there, not ‘categorically’, because there is no category for the tragedy going on in your puny mind.

SpeedyGeezer
SpeedyGeezer
6 years ago

It’s early days and these trading markets are very thin. I look at the much more actively traded US Equities markets, which are not predicting a win for the Biden/Warren dream team. While an interesting topic to kick around, our speculation is missing the developments of the next five months. These will determine the outcome. Among the issues that will trend away from the Ds are: Lockdown hypocrisy and the upcoming Covid wave 1A from the packed in protests; “defund the police”; the disproportional economic impact on blue cities; fear of looting and lawlessness. Among the issues that will trend away from Trump are: continued defection by mainstream Rs, the drumbeat of MSM coverage of Trump’s many inflammatory statements and internal strife, economic deterioration (especially if we get a “protest wave” AND a Fall wave of Covid); focus on the risk of a swing in judicial ideology to strong conservative. All that said if the economies in rural /suburban regions in WI, MI, PA, NC, FL and AZ come back reasonably by November, Trump will have a big tailwind.

Herkie
Herkie
6 years ago
Reply to  SpeedyGeezer

“Markets” are not predicting ANYTHING other than Jay Powell will never allow assets to take a significant hit. But the so called markets which are in reality welfare for the wealthy shareholders of corporate America are claimed to be predicting a “V” shaped recovery by you and CNBC, but is not going to happen. That is a false hope and at best we will get a “U” shaped recovery that will take more than a year to even be manifested, far too little too late for the election. And it IS the economy stupid! If the election were held today Trump would lose in the biggest landslide in our history, and not enough can change between now and the election with less than six months left for that to reverse.

SpeedyGeezer
SpeedyGeezer
6 years ago
Reply to  Herkie

The $40 trillion US stock market is a welfare scheme? I’d love to see your backup for that thesis. I have always assumed that the markets are predicting/discounting EVERYTHING. I agree with your U versus V assessment for the economy, but remember that public companies tend to be big companies. The carnage will happen in the middle market, in small business, with sub prime consumers, with certain commercial RE and in the travel and traditional retail sectors. That carnage is not well represented by the stock market. Listed companies do not need a V. I also agree that Trump would get smoked if the election was today, but it is not. There are five months for the rural and suburban areas of WI, MI, OH, PA, NC, FL and AZ to recover. If they do, Trump will win. If they don’t, Biden will win. I’d call that a coin toss. If you are sure that Biden will win, get short (leveraged inverse ETFs!!). As this outcome gets more obvious, the market will trade off just to discount the higher corporate tax rate. And if Warren is his VP, massive regulation, FAANG breakups and no mergers. You’ll clean up!!

Herkie
Herkie
6 years ago
Reply to  SpeedyGeezer

When 10% of the population owns 84% or more of the shares in the US equity market and the Fed invents new money out thin air and plows that into the stock markets via the banks and other companies then it is nothing other than a welfare scheme. Jay Powell said just a week ago that it is not the Fed’s job to rescue Main Street businesses or individuals but to make sure markets remain “stable” and that corporations remain healthy for stable employment. They say it IS their duty to maintain the economy through stable asset prices, and will use the power of the Fed to reach that goal. As we see asset prices have NOT been stable but rising as fast as at any time on record far beyond any metric of a fair and fundamental price. And as I said, the top 10% of Americans in net worth hold more than 84% of those “assets.” This is HOW the Fed makes sure that all new wealth creation since 2000 has gone to that same top 10% and mostly 1%.

As to there still being 5 months till the election for things to get better so Trump can win, well clearly many 10’s of millions of people are so far behind on rent and mortgages and car payments and credit card bills it is going to take them a lot longer than 5 months just to get caught up. They are not going to feel the economy is “better” till they do. And while it IS the economy stupid most of the time, the economy is not the absolute only thing that drives voting. Black voters are notorious for low turn out, why? I don’t know but it is an indisputable fact. The exception was when Barak Obama ran, their turn out then was much higher. There is no black candidate running this time but the black vote will be the deciding factor in all those states because in those states the vote otherwise is so close. As I said before the black vote in urban Ohio is potentially 30-45% of total voters, about 32% in Columbus, more in Cincy and Cleveland. Obama i snot running, but black voters are as angry as they have ever been, and it does not matter if they are voting for positive reasons or a negative one like hate or anger, their vote will count the same.

Of course they disappointed in 2016 when they stayed away from the polls and they got Trump the russian spy for 4 years as a result. Hillary only needed about 13,000 of them to go vote in MI,where at least 85,000 stayed home. 27,300 of them would have given her WI. And 69,000 would have given her PA. With that Trump would be a footnote in history sort of like Alf Landon. And 115,000 blacks would have been enough to get FL on top of all that which with any other of the states would have been enough to win.

This is why I am not very happy to see looters getting angry about police, if they had just spent an extra hour or two to vote in 2016 they would not be dealing with a proto Nazi white nationalist Trump now. This is why I feel like some are just using black lives matter as an excuse to steal and burn and kill. It is why I really do not care that much about the outcomes. Because what has to change before things get better is their OWN behavior not Trump’s. They can’t change Donald Trump but they CAN change themselves, and act in their own self interests.

Now, if a doddering old man (Biden) selects a black female VP candidate who has about an even chance of finishing his term, and so they turn out, Trump has not even one snowball’s chance in hell of winning. As it is he is the most unpopular sitting president going into re election in modern history.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond
6 years ago

For those of you who truly want to drain the swamp I suggest contributing to Amy McGrath’s election campaign in her run against Mitch McConnell. Send a massive message to Senator O’Connell that his support of a corrosive president comes at a price.

Blurtman
Blurtman
6 years ago

It’s the economy, stupid.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond
6 years ago

I suspect that Trump is now starting to get backed into a corner. Over the next couple of months the Republican Party members are going to realize that Trump is a millstone around their necks and will start trying to distance themselves from him politically. The Republican candidates could very likely face a rout come November if they can’t figure out how to isolate themselves from an ever more desperate President Trump.

Planier1
Planier1
6 years ago

As a former Republican, I say BURN DOWN THE GOP in November. Vote them out so that a new and legitimate conservative — not right wing nationalist — party can rise from its ashes.

SpeedyGeezer
SpeedyGeezer
6 years ago
Reply to  Planier1

I share your leanings, but I am afraid there are fewer and fewer traditional conservatives (or even traditional liberals) in the USA. The Covid and BLM impacts will shrink our ranks even more. The political energy is in the progressive left and the nationalist right. While there may be a vast middle in terms of population, there is not much energy there. Money, yes. Energy, no.

Herkie
Herkie
6 years ago

Mish, the map above is identical to the one I posted last week elsewhere, except I make Ohio a slight lean to Biden. And I can see Georgia being a true toss up though I left it leaning Trump.

The reason for my guess that Ohio will flip to blue (as will NC, PA, MI, WI from last time around) is that in each of those states the Trump margin of victory last time was smaller than the African American population that did not bother to vote for Hillary but had voted for Obama. Now those people are supremely angry and they will go to the polls for Biden to spite Trump. And in the case of NC you have the added down ballot vote for senate that has the senates’ most unpopular senator up against a popular opponent.

Did you know that in all three major urban centers in Ohio, Cincinnati, Cleveland, and Columbus, the population is greater than 30% black? I was in college there when OJ Simpson was acquitted and it was a really difficult day for white people there. The black community more or less terrorized whites in their jubilation. Who can celebrate a blood thirsty killer like him? Yet the degree to which they acted spontaneously and in concert spiting white people was pretty amazing to see. Not much fun to go through. It would be impossible for most of your readers to gauge the anger out there for white people among blacks if you do not live with it daily, some of it is even deserved.

The only real surprise and it is mild at that, is Arizona. Formerly one of the most true red conservative states in the country and in some ways it still is. But, it IS a conservative state true to the likes of Barry Goldwater, and it does not see the clowncar shitshow called Donald Trump as truly conservative, which it is not. Well, unless the GOP has changed the definition of “conservative” to merely anti democrat.

AZ has been getting bluer and bluer with the years, and the proof of both that and the GOP governor’s sheer stupidity is that the GOP and democrats both ran a woman and the democrat woman won. The GOP candidate was a Trumpite too weird even for the Arizona GOP and she lost handily to democrat Sinema in a red state. Then John McCain died and their shit for brains governor Doug Ducey (yes it is perfectly okay to call him DOUCHEY) appointed that cow to finish out his term. It was then and still is political theater that was intended to kiss Trump’s ass in his ongoing war with John McCain, a true conservative. And who did the democrats run against this conspiracy minded republican shill? Mark Kelly, a decorated navy captain and former astronaut who is married to Gabby Giffords. Even though she has become a staunch gun control advocate she is beloved in AZ after she was shot in the head by a would be assassin that shot 18 people including her, six of whom died.

And last, we here all have been unanimous in our belief that the recovery of the economy was going to be a lot longer and harder than the V shaped recovery you read about every day at CNBC and other right leaning financial media. One thing for certain is that even if they are just partly right we still will be in economic difficulty going into the November 3 election. And no president has ever survived an economy that went from good to horrible with double digit unemployment to go on and win in November.

I have to say that the federal government/democrats went basically off the rails in their knee jerk generosity to the “unemployed,” giving $600 per week on top of regular UI payments from states to anyone with a pulse that had been working on any level and stopped for any reason when Covid hit. Millions were/are still raking in over $80k per year in benefits for sitting on their ass at home whether or not they would have been qualified under normal circumstances. But no matter how we feel about that the GOP in DC (Moscow Mitch and his senate republican borg) have said quite sincerely that UI benefit will NOT be extended under any circumstances. So come the end of next month those people will see the last UI check, and many will go back to work (possibly in their new luxury automobiles) but at least ten million more will remain at home many without even state unemployment benefits. My estimate is that at least half of the forty plus million who stopped being employed for whatever reason are not going to have a job to go to when their UI ends. You cannot have 20 million people of voting age legitimately scared about their futures and win elections. So while I loath McConnell and his ilk I was quite pleased when he announced that the overly generous bennies would end next month because politically it will be an IED that he just drove the entire GOP over.

Planier1
Planier1
6 years ago
Reply to  Herkie

As for Georgia, I think you give us too much credit. The average GOP voter here is a gun-hugging, bible-quoting simpleton, who relies on Fox talking heads to tell them what to think. If it has GOP on it, they’ll vote for it while quoting Hannity and the Bible. This from a longtime former Republican who long since had enough.

The Democrats here, on the other had, act like starry-eyed neophytes who believe good intentions will make up for unqualified candidates or those without the fire in their bellies to carry the fight to their adversaries and brand the GOP and it’s candidates for what they are. Then, offer a prudent, not pandering, alternative.

Georgia and Texas have historic opportunities to end the hegemony of their states’ GOP, but the cynic in me says they won’t show up to the party in sufficient numbers and so blow it. Again.

Herkie
Herkie
6 years ago
Reply to  Herkie

The only reason I call Georgia as being anywhere near to close is that there is a fired up minority vote that is larger than most people know, especially in the Atlanta area, but also a lot of rural blacks. I still say it will be a while before democrats break even there, I might not live to see that in my 60’s now, but one day given the birth rate of the right verses the left it is going to happen. For my own part as a centrist democrat who tries to keep an open mind I do think that there are disturbing sounds out of black democrats in Georgia that are trending towards “progressives” meaning socialists that just want a lot of free stuff. There is economic justice and then there is just looting other peoples stuff, the balance can be quite delicate between them, I will say this though, Biden is locked into a female VP and post riots will likely feel forced to select both a black female and one that demands economic justice (for blacks) as well as having a law and order background and the only person that fits that bill is Kamala Harris.

If Biden’s choice is Harris I will be voting for that orange douchebag Trump, because I see the probability of Biden getting through his term as far too low and I do not support Kamala Harris in any way shape or form. Her demands that the USA institute a UBI that is neither U or B is nothing less than slave reparations and would SPECIFICALLY cut disabled vets like myself out, even though any form of UBI would be grossly inflationary and leave me to deal with vastly higher prices when my income is already less than 60% of the median household income.

The same goes for every black woman who’s name has been put forward that I have seen so far. Not to mention that there really do have to be some advanced experience other than being a black woman in order to be president. Every one of them has talents and experience that would benefit the people of the USA, as Attorney General, judge, SCOTUS Justice, Treasury official, Secretary of State even, but not one that is well rounded enough to be president. If Biden were younger or in better health I would not be so adamant, but I see a better than 50/50 chance his VP choice will be our first female president and if it is anyone calling themselves a progressive, or who has ever entertained the idea of reparations, or a UBI that is not sincerely Universal, Trump will get my vote. That is cast in stone and is not going to change.

tokidoki
tokidoki
6 years ago
Reply to  Herkie

McCain a true conservative? That made me laugh.

Herkie
Herkie
6 years ago
Reply to  tokidoki

And with that comment you lost all credibility with me.

MatrixSentry
MatrixSentry
6 years ago

Mish supports a senile candidate for president.

BaronAsh
BaronAsh
6 years ago

I think things will swing back after the revelations from upcoming Durham investigation/prosecutions. But we won’t know until we get there…

GeorgeWP
GeorgeWP
6 years ago
Reply to  BaronAsh

Amusing diatribes. Presumably Williams got his copies direct from whatever Republican disinformation unit printed them.

njbr
njbr
6 years ago
Reply to  BaronAsh

Childish propaganda pieces capture childish minds.

In this internet age, can’t you remember, “don’t believe everything you read”?

Sunriver
Sunriver
6 years ago

The story of the year is not Trump behind in the polls, not the virus, nor an evil cop in Minneapolis. The story of the year is the FED buying corporate bonds directly. Certainly equity purchases by the FED through ETFs and guaranteed incomes/no cost health care through Congressional bills is all in play with or without Trump. Biden ‘The crypt keeper’ will promote all such policies. And we used to believe that Communism/Socialism was evil? Where is Harry Truman when you need him? Ron Paul perhaps? The political parties/media will be the ruin of us all.

deanrusk
deanrusk
6 years ago

Creepy Joe will be toast after the debates because he will say something so idiotic that you will have to hold your nose and vote for Trump.

meowing4u
meowing4u
6 years ago

We get it. In the meantime we know the banking cabel will make that decision for us. We’ve been well trained spineless, obedient boot-licking sheep to believe voting matters (and that covid-19 will wipe out humanity unless we stand 6 feet from each other).

sabaj_49
sabaj_49
6 years ago

so sorry mish – but ever since you bash President(yours to Mish) Trump
I have no sympathy for YOUR BIASED ARTICLES
sad but true mish

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
6 years ago

Texas is in swing state territory. Based on state level polling Biden has 238 electoral votes and Trump has 202. Trump would literally have to sweep not only every tossup state but also Republican strongholds like Georgie and Texas where Biden is running even. The Senate also has an increasing chance of flopping to the Democrats as firewalls like Kentucky and 10 other Republican states could flip. Trump has really made a mess of his and the party by his name’s chances as more Republican senators increasingly dont even go to their state when Trump is visiting. This could be a repeat of the 2008 election.

Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple
6 years ago

Trump has DESTROYED the Republican Party.

Zardoz
Zardoz
6 years ago

trump and the crooks that shield him have set conservatism back a decade, if not pushed it permanently to the fringe. Heckuva job trumpy.

jfs
jfs
6 years ago

It doesn’t look good for Trump. But I think it’s bizarre that people think he’s the one who’s dividing the country. It truly is the media.

One example of the divisive media is the recent riots over George Floyd’s death.

I agree with Jared Taylor, who says in yesterday’s podcast:

10:48 – It’s not the police who need reform. It’s the media. This crisis will not end until the press stop presenting a false and dangerously inflamed picture of the American justice system.

Rioting and looting are wrong, no matter what the reason.
Rioting and looting over an illusion, because of something that isn’t even true – that’s a tragedy.

Police Racism: A Manufactured Crisis (from American Renaissance, June 5 2020)

posh808
posh808
6 years ago
Reply to  jfs

Totally Agree! Fox News has the award for bias news coverage.
We have too many sources in the media and all have some perceived bias. This is unavoidable.

But the truth is right in front of us in the pictures and videos from all news sources. An open, unfiltered mind can logically see that THERE IS abuse and violence committed to persons of color all the time!

News organizations tell you WHAT to think. It’s HOW you think that matters.
Remember, there is NO gray area in the truth of things. FACTS are binary. There is a reason people use the cliche, “if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck…” to describe the truth.

LionelL
LionelL
6 years ago
Reply to  jfs

The statistics is clear, statement about media can be agreed, but his claim about “police doing exactly what it is meant to do” is not correct. It certainly looks like American police is a bunch of thugs, who openly oppress democracy under the banner of patriotism.

I just leave this here.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond
6 years ago
Reply to  jfs

Like it or not Trump’s character and demeanor are divisive. Insulting reporters, especially female and minority reporters, is extremely divisive. I agree with you that the US media has a lot to answer for on BOTH sides but make no mistake the root of the problem is Trump. There is no mistake about that.

Zardoz
Zardoz
6 years ago
Reply to  jfs

Great, the racist fat boys have shown up.

Montana33
Montana33
6 years ago

Hillary had better numbers than Biden right before the election and then Democrats didn’t bother to vote and were also suppressed. It is important to track these things – yes – but Democrat voters are flaky and have lower turnout and likely Democrat voters don’t register or vote by the millions. There is a lot of “someone else will take care of it – I’m too busy attitudes”. Republicans are older and whiter and more likely to vote. The best thing Biden can do is hide and let Trump defeat himself. No one should be confident about the Democrat voter base. They’ll take a survey and go to a protest and then won’t vote.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
6 years ago
Reply to  Montana33

The real truth about 2016 is Trump was able to flip enough districts that Obama won in 2012 in a handful of swing states where turnout was low. I dont think people in those states will make that mistake in 2020.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
6 years ago
Reply to  Montana33

Agree with you about what Biden should do. Trump will self destruct at every turn and Biden should let him. The advantages Trump had in 2016 of being an outsider agaisnt effectively an incumbent wont be there this time. Biden will probably also choose someone who could be President as his age may preclude him from even completing one term . Trump is also not out of the woods from a health standpoint, especially if he taking hydroxychloroquine. November is far away but it’s going to be a summer of protests and Covid-19 deaths closer 200k by the end of summer and high unemployment. I also suspect Russia will again try to tip the scales in favor of Trump . China is the wildcard. Right now both parties are closing the ranks agaisnt a pro-China policy based on Covid-19 and trade.

Carl_R
Carl_R
6 years ago

Regarding HCQ, per the WHO website, hundreds of millions of doses a year are given to treat Malaria, Lupus, and Arthritis, but they are unaware of any cases of heart problems caused by HCQ, which has an exceptional safety profile. Now, that said, if someone is late in a Covid infection, and Covid has damaged their heart, it is quite possibly true that adding HCQ at that stage is a bad idea. Now, it’s hard to know even that, since the Lancet study that said it increased the death rate was withdrawn since it was based on “unverifiable” data. That same data was used to show that Ivermectin worked, so toss that study out, too.

Will taking HCQ early prevent a Covid infection? A recent study said no. Will taking it early, when it would be safe, and also might work, make a Covid case milder? Oddly, no one has yet attempted to answer this. In any case, Trump has stopped taking HCQ, but the odds of it causing a problem were about as close to zero as you can get, unless he has known heart problems.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
6 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R

Who really knows given he gave out a fake report for his medical report.

Mish
Mish
6 years ago
Reply to  Montana33

excuse me for pointing out for the nth time

This is NOT 2016

Montana33
Montana33
6 years ago
Reply to  Mish

Yes it’s not 2016 and I truly hope you are right. Ive worked on voter registration and GOTV. I’ve spent thousands and organized groups. I knock on doors and work phone banks and do texting and more. I see people who struggle with life – or they don’t vote because they are waiting for a better candidate. We can lose voters if people think it’s in the bag. Please don’t underestimate the impact of Republican voter suppression efforts. Also – About 35 percent of people age 30 and below are voters. Surveys are not properly weighted for propensity to vote. We just lost a Congressional seat in a special election in CA in May due to low Democrat turnout. We had the numbers going in but the Republicans had higher turnout. I’m cautiously optimistic that maybe we could pull this off… it’s insanely difficult to knock out an incumbent President.

Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple
6 years ago
Reply to  Montana33

Young people are woke like no time since 1968. The turnout 18-34 will be MASSIVE.

Anna 7
Anna 7
6 years ago
Reply to  Montana33

but Democrat voters are flaky and have lower turnout and likely Democrat voters don’t register or vote by the millions. There is a lot of “someone else will take care of it – I’m too busy attitudes”.

Your comment reeks of partisan stupidity.

Many lefty voters disliked the “incumbent” the oligarchs pitched as the D candidate in 2016. So they stayed home.

Biden is as bad as Killary. Now, the main question is whether Chump shoots enough “own goals” to make disgusted righty voters stay home.

If many of them do, I won’t make comments about you for being “flaky” or lazy. I might actually respect you and hope more people stop pissing away their votes on D’s and R’s.

RayLopez
RayLopez
6 years ago
Reply to  Montana33

Can you imagine, as said upstream, the Trump-haters failing to vote and Trump squeaking by with another Electoral college win? Nightmare scenario but could happen.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond
6 years ago

We can but hope.

Sebmurray
Sebmurray
6 years ago

It’s just so painful that the alternative is Biden

Stuki
Stuki
6 years ago

…in vain. As always. Since 1870.

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